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german writers

>> No.16707735

Goethe, Kafka, the list goes on.

>> No.16707739
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>>16707727
>be autistic list maker
>know a lot about German writers
>remember that I'm going to have to include and sort all of those writers from the middle of the 18th century that would lead to the Sturm und Drang

>> No.16707754

Musil

>> No.16707772

>>16707727
1. Goethe
2. Mann
3. Kafka
4. Heine
5. Rilke
6. Brecht
7. Brothers Grimm
8. Arno Schmidt
9. Boll
10. Remarque

>> No.16707799

>>16707727
Herder

>> No.16707810

>>16707772
>Mann
>Kafka
>Heine
>Rilke
>top five
>Brecht
>Brothers Grimm
>Schmidt
>Boll
>Remarque
>top ten
You have horrible choices, if these aren't just personal choice and are instead an attempt at objectivity.

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>> No.16707816

>>16707727
1. Hitler
2. Goebbels
3. Rosenberg
4. Speer
5. Strasser Bros.
6. Röhm
7. Himmler
8. Göring
9. Heidegger
10. Marx

>> No.16707837

>>16707816
>1.Hitler

>> No.16707839

>>16707727
Goethe and Mann in top 10.

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>>16707739
BASED
I'm counting on you Anon

>> No.16707867

1. rilke
2. hitler
3. lou reed
4. hegel

the rest are immaterial

>> No.16707878

>>16707810
I like them

>> No.16707916

>>16707727
1. Theodor Körner
2. Georg Büchner
3. Ernst von Salomon
4. Friedrich von Schiller
5. Philipp Mainländer
6. Oswald von Wolkenstein
7. Oswald Spengler
8. Othmar Spann
9. William Shakespeare
10. Rilke or Neetzsch or some meme like that

With a honorary divine throne for Goethe obviously. Top 1 worst german writer is Kleist btw. Dont (You) me.

>> No.16707931

>>16707916
Oh, also forgot to mention Stefan Georg and Gottfried Benn, they're fine too

>> No.16707941

>>16707931
it's george, not georg, not that a poseur like you would care.

>> No.16707959

>>16707772
What's so great about Schmidt? I only ever hear him mentioned when someone is talking about Bottom's Dream, but I almost never hear anything about his other works. There was a thread a week ago where someone mentioned his novellas but I can't recall what was said.

>> No.16707973

>>16707941
oh no I forgot to add a letter in the end on 4chan

>> No.16708089

>>16707916
>Shakespeare
WE

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>>16707727

>> No.16708116

>>16707916
Shakespeare was Russian

>> No.16708165

>>16708089
German Shakespeare Society is older than english one. Seethe harder, anglo, without us you wouldnt even know he existed nowadays.

>> No.16708366

>>16707859
Please don't count on me, all I do is disappoint people; I don't want to be under that kind of pressure.

>> No.16708374

>>16707916
>9. William Shakespeare
Based German. English will never understand.

>>16708114
Mr. Ant?

>> No.16709414

>>16708165
Herr, bitte, keine Bruderkriege mehr.

>> No.16710686

>>16707959
He is a great author. He's mostly known around here for Bottom's Dream, but his short works such as The Egghead Republic and Black Mirrors are great too. And he's got a hell of a lot more. The issue is that a significant portion of his works have not been translated, and there aren't many great options of the works that are translated because his style makes it very difficult to do so.

>> No.16710882

>>16710686
Thanks for that. I recently visited a friend who bought a copy of Dalkey's Bottom's Dream and an old Egghead Republic, said he gave up on BD almost as fast as Finnegans Wake and that ER filtered him hard (my words, not his). I sat trying to decipher the first few pages of BD and felt exhausted with the effort, so I couldn't Imagine the original German to be any easier. I'm currently self-teaching myself German, going to take formal courses or get a tutor once I get past the first stage, so perhaps the English translations will be enough to interest me into reading the original?

>> No.16710908

>>16707816
Marx was jewish not german

>> No.16710936

>>16707727
>No Schopenhauer mentioned
Sad

>> No.16711184

>>16707727
Here's a question: who are the funniest German writers, classics or contemporary? I find I appreciate a culture better when I comprehend what makes them laugh. What makes Germans laugh?

>> No.16711245
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16711245

>>16707727
Jordan Peterson
Anthony
The Demiurge
Incomplete morals
Entropy
Moloch
Baal
Astrodamus
Ronald McDonald
Trash Punk Disposable Wipes

>> No.16711249

>>16707727
Adolf, Karl, and I. We're the holy trinity of Teutonic lit

>> No.16711250

>>16707727
would sebald ever make the list?

>> No.16711338

>>16711250
No

>> No.16711617

>>16711250
Yes, I would put him near the top. Most German literature is shit, but Sebald was very anglified and therefore good.

>> No.16711811

>>16707727
1. John Sinclair
2. Wolfgang Hohlbein
3. Helmut Rellergerd
4. Mark Benecke
5. Florian Hilleberg
6. Marc Freund
7. Alfred Becker
8. Walter Appel
9. Richard Wunderer
10. Madeleine Puljic

>> No.16711836

>>16707727
1. Cornelia Funke
2. Michael Ende
3. Erich Kästner
4. Kai Meyer
5. Wolfgang Herndorf
6. and onwards: Goethe and others

>> No.16711844

>>16711836
Du musst 18 Jahre alt sein, um hier pfostieren zu dürfen.

>> No.16711924

>>16711844
Ziemlich lustig mein Herr

>> No.16711975

>>16711811
>>16711844
Registriert diese Doppels!

>> No.16711979

>>16711844 ist krinsch
>>16711836 ist basiert

>> No.16712134

>>16711184
>funny
>german

>> No.16712182

>>16712134
Der Hauptmann von Köpenick
Till Eulenspiegel
Baron Münchhausen

>> No.16712201

Mann
Nietzsche
Weininger
Schopenhauer
E.T.A Hoffman
Eckhart
Schiller
Luther
Kafka
Musil

>> No.16712263

>>16711184
Heine, Nietzsche, Bismarck

>> No.16712292

>>16712201
>Eckhart
>Luther
BASIERT

>> No.16712307

>>16712201
>Mann
But did you know what he wrote in his diary? YOU CAN'T LIKE HIM, YOU ANIMAL, STOP IT IMMEDIATELY. STOOP NOOOOOOOO. READ THE DIARYYY

>> No.16712311

Walter Benjamin
Gershom Scholem
Martin Buber
Eduard Bernstein
Ernst Bloch
Jean Paul
Paul Scheerbart
Gustav Meyrink
Arno Schmidt
Hermann Glaser
Arthur Schnitzler

>> No.16712331

>>16707916
>1. Theodor Körner
Based, could have stopped there.

>> No.16712348

>>16712307
Mann said Death in Venice was based off of Goethe's 17 yo old love in Marienbad (he was 73 at the time) with a gay twist.

>> No.16712369

>>16707810
>objectivity
anon, please...

>> No.16712384

Heinrich von Treitschke
Ulrich von Wilamowitz-Moellendorff
Moritz August von Thümmel
Leopold Schefer
Joseph Anton Sambuga
Johann Lorenz von Mosheim
Helmuth von Moltke
Ludwig Friedländer
Hermann Hettner
Friedrich von Gentz

>> No.16712389

>>16712369
>I'm above objectivity
Cringe, we're over the postmodernists now.

>> No.16712398

>>16712311
oy vey

>> No.16712486

>>16710882
I haven't read the English translations so I can't tell you wether they're so great or not. Don't be surprised if you get filtered, I'm definitely not going to claim that I understood all of it, or even close. I took the same approach that I did with Joyce. Instead of trying to digest each little bit, I just kept trucking through it to get something out of the whole by the end.

>> No.16712517

fellow germananons, is philipp mainländer digestible for plebs or do I have to read shopenhauer first?

>> No.16712545

>>16712517
can't believe I wrote his name like a fucking burger. it's Schopenhauer* ofc

>> No.16712943

>>16707727
im assuming Austrians count

1. Goethe
2. Novalis
3. Holderlin
4. Schiller
5. Trakl
6. Rilke
7. Kafka
8. Heine
9. Broch
10. Musil

>> No.16713106

>>16712389
There is no above or below objectivity because there is no objectivity in the first place.

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What's your opinion on Döblin, anon? Is it worth reading him?

>> No.16714327

>>16713106
Is this objectively true?

>> No.16714839

>>16707816
Based.

>> No.16714843

I WANT A QT LIT GF!!!!!

>> No.16715119

>>16707816
based, but you forgot Schmitt

>> No.16716202

>all these people putting Mann ahead of Musil and Kafka
>no Broch
Lol
1. Musil
2. Kafka
3. Broch
4. Goethe
5. Döblin

>> No.16716214

>>16716202
Broch reads like the coffee porcelain of my grandma.

>> No.16716668

>>16712348
NOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, READ THE DIARIES AND STOP LIKING HIM AGHHHHHHH STOP IT

>> No.16716699

>>16707754
wasn't he austrian?

>> No.16716725

>>16716699
Yes
>>16716202
Mann is great you faggot. Joseph and His Brothers is better than anything Doblin ever wrote.

>> No.16717423

>not a single mention of Stifter or Hofmannsthal in this tread
/lit/ does not read

>>16716699
Like every great German writer.

>> No.16717629

>>16717423
all austrian writers are actually jewish