/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16707467]

>take a american history of literature course
>in the first lecture, our professor(ess) voices her opinion about how the american canon is too white
and cites rap lyrics

[Anonymous No.16707474]

your fault for taking the damn class anyways, what'd you expect?

[Anonymous No.16707476]

>>16707467
Yeah I'm just gonna call bullshit on that unless you're going to some shitty community college. Won't believe you unless you post a syllabus

[Anonymous No.16707480]

>tfw no art hoe gf

[Anonymous No.16707489]

>>16707467
I knkow this is a bait threed. but Ive always hated how myopic and forced they present it. Having to phrase everything as an antithesis. If they want to include liturature that happens to be from another perspective, just DO it. Im not even complaining about the material, but how the material is presented. Lke there must be a necissary strawman to go forward in this route instead of simply going that route. It makes its very core a reactionary motivation rather than one of implicite exporation. It will never be "Naturalized" in this way.

[Anonymous No.16707491]

>>16707476
>and doxx myself!
>No thanks bucko! I don't need you reporting me to the local SJW Nazi hunters for the epic troll!

[Anonymous No.16707492]

>>16707480
they're not worth it, tomboys are much better

[Anonymous No.16707495]

>>16707467
>>16707476
This actually would not surprise me, anons. I know some insectoid people who genuinely say things like that. And one of them is indeed a college professor.

[Anonymous No.16707502]

>>16707480
>>16707492
OP's pic isn't even a good one.

[Anonymous No.16707504]

>>16707467
Basically all American Lit classes have some black stuff on there. Admittedly mine didn't but it ran from 1850 to 1930 and there weren't a lot of black writers then. But 20th century lit classes generally have Baldwin and Ellison or something and have done for 40 years.

[Anonymous No.16707512]

>>16707504
Why is black literature always so reddity and gross?

[Anonymous No.16707521]

>>16707480
Not worth it. Art hoes are usually fucking crazy and have some substance abuse issue.

[Anonymous No.16707523]

>>16707512
Modern black literature (see: The Hate U Give) is reddit-y, but authors like Fredrick Douglass and W.E.B. Du Bois (or even someone like Ralph Ellison) are actually good writers

[Anonymous No.16707530]

>>16707512
Bad take. Harlem Renaissance is absolutely based

[Anonymous No.16707532]

>>16707467
>Going to university in America
never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.16707545]

>>16707467
Reality check for you bro:
Education is more or less a pyramid scheme, you're not paying for the actual content of the classes you're paying because the institutions have cornered the market on certificates of qualification.
They're meaningless and inconsequential, that's why they're run by wealthy women, spoiled children of the black political class, and nepotistically elected white men from rich families.
You've basically got to get a degree, so they've got you by the balls, but after you're done- go somewhere the results actually matter. You'll find your people.
Even in the humanities, make some art which actually pushes boundaries and blows minds and people will be drawn to it. Write a book which demands attention and thought, people will be drawn to it. Some of the biggest writers and artists around right now have done it without the endorsement of or actively contrary to the will of the humanities establishment.
Instead of a functional social welfare structure which could help everyone manage some base level of stability, we divert millions of dollars to the maintenance of these fossilized educational/cultural institutions and development shitty fighter jets that barely work to give (basically at or below cost) to Israel so they can bully their muslim neighbors. And if we talk about social welfare, the managers manage to find a way to make it only go to certain subpopulations (black) in certain areas (urban).

[Anonymous No.16707560]

>>16707521
The top tier ones are ridiculously pretty though desu
When I was in college there was this 11/10 art hoe in one of my classes and she actually was nice too.

[Anonymous No.16707563]

>>16707467
It's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.16707570]

>>16707545
Excuse me, anon, there is a phone call for you from the based department.

[Anonymous No.16707577]

>>16707563
Girls with short hair are disgusting.

[Anonymous No.16707591]

>>16707476
Nah, there are plenty of college classes like this at at least semi-prestigious above average universities. I've been, he's not lying.
One time we spent a whole seminar talking about Childish Gambino's 'This is America' music video. I'm serious.

[Anonymous No.16707593]

>>16707512
because they feel that being a black writer isn't enough, they also have to write 'black'

[Anonymous No.16707597]

>>16707591
>One time we spent a whole seminar talking about Childish Gambino's 'This is America' music video.
Glass this whole country.

[Anonymous No.16707602]

>>16707597
To be fair, I forgot to mention it was a UK university. But you are still right.

[Anonymous No.16707609]

>>16707577
I fucked a girl with short hair and it was weird, despite the vagina it really seemed like I was banging a little boy. so all you pedos out there, just fuck short haired girls

[Anonymous No.16707621]

>>16707560
Good for you anon. Beware of art hoes though. They beguile you with beauty. And then break your phone and throw your underwear out on the street because you didn't come back on time.

[Anonymous No.16707674]

>>16707480
not worth it

[Anonymous No.16707675]

9 times out of 10, female professors who say things like this are BEGGING to get fucked by Big Canonical Cock. I am being serious. I am not being ironic. I once had a professor for a survey course of English lit from Beowulf to 1800; she was about 28, fairly cute (not an art hoe, but with shorter brown hair), and very into deconstructing traditional views of medieval literature. Queering Langland, "there were black people in the Middle Ages," all of that. On the first day, we discussed the concept of a literary canon, which she argued inherently favored those works produced by people in power. Needless to say, I disagreed. Because I happened to have a class in the next room right before her course, I was always the first to arrive, usually about 5 minutes before anyone else. We would have brief conversations, first about whatever material we were going to cover that day and then about random topics- other books and poems, little details of our lives, etc.
Slowly I began to realize she was dropping small hints of her sexual availability. Nothing too risqué. She would say things like "Old English poetry (she never said Anglo-Saxon because that was a 'white supremacist dogwhistle') is so elegiac, it always makes me lonely" or "anon, you might like this article on the York mystery plays, I found it very stimulating," etc. What's more, these hints always came after I said something to defend the canon or canonical authors and traditional interpretations. For example, one day I happened to namedrop Harold Bloom during a conversation about Shakespeare's use of the carnivalesque. She made a face, and I said "Love him or hate him, you have to admit Bloom presents a useful analysis of poetic influence across the history of English literature (or words to that effect)." She bit her lip, and for a second I wasn't sure if she was going to criticize our guy or what, but instead she mentioned that the Taming of the Shrew was playing at a local theater, subtly indicating she wished to go with me. We did end up going, and it was particularly fun to watch her watch Petruchio tame Katherine. She clearly loved it; I didn't bring it up, of course, but only a few days before she had said the play was irredeemably misogynistic. Needless to say, we had an enjoyable night.

[Anonymous No.16707676]

>>16707467
>american
>history
>literature

[Anonymous No.16707688]

>>16707560
True. Top-tier art-hoes will mog any other type of girl any day of the week, but there's also a higher chance of them being unstable or psychopathic

[Anonymous No.16707694]

>>16707688
Especially the ones with the white-blonde hair. So pretty desu

[Anonymous No.16707709]

>>16707675
wow

[Anonymous No.16707711]

>>16707675
Reading this gave me a boner, unironically.

[Anonymous No.16707717]

Name one - literally ONE - black writer in the post-2010 world who writes about anything besides
>I'm black and let me tell you how oppressed I am by white people
>Europe historically was diverse and black
>black people invented everything
>all these normal, logical things in the every day world actually are thinly veiled white supremacy

[Anonymous No.16707718]

>>16707563
It upsets me her drink is on top of her notes. As the cup starts to sweat the notes are going to get wet and ruined.

[Anonymous No.16707723]

>>16707717
>Name one - literally ONE - black writer
No

[Anonymous No.16707729]

>>16707717
did they wrong?

[Anonymous No.16707731]

>>16707717
Can I include all the black conservative non-fiction writers and scholars?

[Anonymous No.16707737]

>>16707731
Malcolm X was the only good one.

[Anonymous No.16707778]

>>16707577
cringe

[Anonymous No.16707789]

>>16707675
>Big Canonical Cock

[Anonymous No.16707827]

>>16707577
To expand on>>16707778
As having short hair is a widely recognized sign of submission, I posit that women must have short hair if they are truly to be considered yours. Should she not then she would then be signalling to all other males her availability, and that you do not own her, and that you are in fact a cuck.

>>16707609
Boys are made for pleasure, so the connection is, if anything, in favour of short hair.

[Anonymous No.16707868]

>>16707545
completely true, incredibly based and redpilled. the only real reason to go to college is to get into academia so you can do the research you want eventually

[Anonymous No.16707883]

>>16707868
Academia is cucked by the midwit problem.
https://youtu.be/byb3ffrBYgU

[Anonymous No.16707898]

>>16707717
Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Shelby Steele, Jason Riley, John Mcworther, Glenn Loury

[Anonymous No.16707932]

>>16707868
at this point you basically need a degree for any entry level position outside of manual labor. It's bullshit but we've gotta call this one an L and move on, we can reclaim the real world later.
Manual labor is great, but there are different qualifications for that. College-type middle class Americans could never hold up to the qualifications and trade knowledge of Vinny the longshoreman's son. And Vinny even is barely qualified compared to Jose, since you barely even need to pay Jose and he never calls in sick or injured, not to mention would never even dream of unionizing on you.
Even Vinny needs a degree now, so he can work as a fucking medical assistant or something.

[Anonymous No.16707933]

>>16707898
>Thomas Sowell
Neuterd, toothless version of Malcolm X.

[Anonymous No.16707940]

>>16707932
>And Vinny even is barely qualified compared to Jose, since you barely even need to pay Jose and he never calls in sick or injured, not to mention would never even dream of unionizing on you.
So in a way, are Republicans actually right when they say that Democrats just want to use spics as slave labor?

[Anonymous No.16707950]

>>16707940
Yes, but Republicans also want to use them as slave labor just differently

[Anonymous No.16707952]

>>16707950
>Republicans also want to use them as slave labor just differently
How so?

[Anonymous No.16707953]

>>16707718
I want to get HER wet and ruined, if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.16707960]

>>16707467
>literature course
>rap
why didn't she just start playing some kurosawa films while she was at it?

[Anonymous No.16707966]

How come literature courses never discuss black metal?

[Anonymous No.16707969]

>>16707953
>>16707675
based

[Anonymous No.16707970]

>>16707940
There's a discrete group of Central American natives who have been traveling back and forth over the desert wasteland now approximated by the Texas/Mexico border to provide dirt cheap seasonal labor to wealthy planters/merchants/etc since before the USA even existed. It's as ancient a habit as we get on this continent.
The only change is now bureaucratic structures have sort of forced them to move and work here full time, only sending money back and never returning home, which for them I imagine is worse unless they fucking hate their wives.
I'm not sure what republicans or democrats say or mean these days, probably it's just lip service to working class americans. I can't imagine a policy coming from the grand old party that would benefit those people, but it might be nice to have your frustrations validated by someone in power who sort of talks like you, despite the fact that three generations back his family would never have been seen speaking in a working class dialect or activing as if the concerns of that crowd even registered let alone mattered.

[Anonymous No.16707988]

>>16707970
Actually I bet it rocks for them, they've all got huge annoying families and I doubt they like their wives and kids.

[Anonymous No.16707990]

>>16707970
>I can't imagine a policy coming from the grand old party that would benefit those people, but it might be nice to have your frustrations validated by someone in power who sort of talks like you, despite the fact that three generations back his family would never have been seen speaking in a working class dialect
Wait a minute. Republicans talk like Latinos now?

[Anonymous No.16708010]

>>16707990
no, they talk like americans from flyover country or the south
Ask yourself how GWB still speaks with a texan accent even though he spent his life boarding at Andover prep and Yale

[Anonymous No.16708041]

>>16708010
Oh yeah I see what you mean now. At least Trump doesn't use a southern accent.

[Anonymous No.16708057]

>>16708041
nah his affect and persona are a little more sophisticated, but that was sort of the whole reason he won (and will likely win again tonight)

[Anonymous No.16708095]

>>16707718
>notes
Looks like an application of some sort.

[Anonymous No.16708103]

i want to be a cute girl

[Anonymous No.16708113]

>>16708057
>sophisticated
he’s a bloviating mongoloid

[Anonymous No.16708118]

>>16708113
redit

[Anonymous No.16708137]

>>16707489
A pretty fair point. Endearing white people to the works of other cultures would probably be more efficient if we didn't drone on about how whites are the devil for having an in culture bias like everyone else does.

[Anonymous No.16708149]

>>16708118
/pol/

[Anonymous No.16708155]

>>16707898
>Thomas Sowell
cliche
>Walter Williams
>Shelby Steele
>Jason Riley
Who?
>John Mcworther
Not worth
>Glenn Loury
Old loser who managed to have zero influence on anything. And although you didn't mention him.
>Coleman Hughes
A tryhard philosophy student.

[Anonymous No.16708162]

>>16708149
I don't like trump but he's pretty obviously a potemkin retard

[Anonymous No.16708163]

>>16707675
Any more stories you can tell us, Chad cAnon?

[Anonymous No.16708177]

>>16708162
If he’s a potemkin retard how can you argue that his public speaking is “sophisticated“

[Anonymous No.16708186]

>>16707675
Edith's gonna be pissed, Bill

[Anonymous No.16708197]

>>16708113
And yet he is still by far the best president in many decades. Of course, that is an extremely low bar, but nonetheless it is a fact worth noting.

[Anonymous No.16708204]

>>16708177
it's sophisticated to disguise a cynical apolitical cashgrab as a secret dogwhistled rightoid campaign which itself is disguised as incompetence and retardation.
Not to mention all the bullshit with russia.
Smart people put this whole thing together and are getting rich off of it, it's sophisticated. Previous generations could barely handle disingenuous pandering.

[Anonymous No.16708207]

>>16707467
You didn't have to show us her face

[Anonymous No.16708212]

>>16708204
Alright well I misunderstood what you were saying because we are on the same page.

[Anonymous No.16708219]

>>16708212
I could have been more clear, bro.

[Anonymous No.16708252]

>>16708095
I admire your autism, and I maintain that she shouldn't have her drink on whatever the paperwork is.

[Anonymous No.16708255]

>>16708252
she's an upper-middle class white girl, she'll do whatever the fuck she wants and if you disagree you're an incel terrorist

[Anonymous No.16708267]

>>16708255
Inshallah I shall take the head of the harlot for her promiscuous ways and also not touching my penis.

[Anonymous No.16708276]

>doing my CS degree at ni
>also doing some other courses in other fields for fun
>have this weirdly stupid idea to also take some courses in German (local language) and English literature
>Black Women in Postwar Fiction
>Feminism in Poetry
>Reading Club for Why I Won't Talk to Whites about Racism
>Decolonizing the Canon

Seriously what the fuck, I thought you guys were memeing, but I talked to German and English literature students and they've never read Thomas Mann, Döblin, Joyce, David Foster Wallace. What the fuck man. They were almost done with their literature degree.

[Anonymous No.16708283]

>>16708095
Why does she need an application? She can just walk in and get hired. Is she just making fun of men who actually have to try really hard to get a job?

[Anonymous No.16708287]

>>16707563
>>16707718
>>16708095
>>16708252
>>16708267
>>16708255
>>16708207
>>16707675
I don't know about you, but lefty girls make me horny. When I see them, I want to eat their hairy muffs before choking and fucking them.

[Anonymous No.16708305]

>>16707512
>>16707523
this Du Bois is absolutely based if you like pragmatism

[Anonymous No.16708306]

>>16708287
Why are people in old paintings almost always ugly? The usual answer is "different beauty standards back then" but I don't think that's right because physical attractiveness in the face is largely a biological, hard wired instinct, not something that just changes over time like clothing.

[Anonymous No.16708319]

>>16708306
did you skip biology class?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection_in_humans

[Anonymous No.16708335]

>>16708319
No. What point are you making here? That beauty standards change? That's only true in regards to fashion, not the face.

[Anonymous No.16708344]

>>16708306
Well in many cases they're portraits of real people, in which case the artist had to portray the subject somewhat accurately

[Anonymous No.16708346]

>>16708335
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.16708360]

>>16708346
I take it you don't have an answer then.

[Anonymous No.16708361]

>>16708287
I genuinely can't tell what point that image is trying to make. Before feminism people didn't look happy and were all white and after feminism people smiled in pictures? Black people didn't exist before feminism? I really don't understand.

[Anonymous No.16708363]

>>16708306
Because it's more interesting. There are no beautiful or ugly people though, every human is beautiful, because human is the closest animal to God. So it doesn't matter how you look, you're beautiful regardless.

And no I'm not a feminist who's against 'fat shaming' and such, it's just that really people are neither pretty nor ugly, they just are. And for me they're beautiful for just being.

[Anonymous No.16708364]

>>16708335
the photos on the right are slightly shooped and the paintings on the left take liberties in the same way.

[Anonymous No.16708377]

>>16708287
Why? I'm sure you believe these women are whores with cavernous gaping holes that many men have ventured in, so why would you like to be the 101st? Self hatred maybe?

[Anonymous No.16708383]

>>16708361
It's supposed to show the truth and not cherry picked images. In other words - nothing really changed and there used to be extremist individuals before as there are now, but the general trend is really the same.

[Anonymous No.16708394]

>>16708383
Oh. I feel less retarded now.

[Anonymous No.16708400]

>>16708360
>chad thunder cock can impregnate as many women as he can
>women can only have 1 partner every few years
>attractive women get to decide who fucks who
>ugly women and men get what they can take, sometimes, nothing at all
>Chad thundercock bangs 100 women a year while incel pepe poster fucks no one and dies alone
>Chad thundercock's more physically attractive features were sexually selected over incel pepe poster in his local population

Now do that over and over again for many generations.

[Anonymous No.16708403]

>>16708344
Then logically you would expect to see more attractive people and average people in these paintings too, rather than almost exclusively ugly people.
Maybe it's because generally only the rich could afford to have a self portrait made, and they often were inbred.

[Anonymous No.16708453]

>>16708377
I just like to have sex with hot women, I don't really care about how many men she sleeps with as long as she is healthy, nice and hasn't been in porn/ involved sexual acts like scat.

[Anonymous No.16708475]

>>16707467
What is going to happen in Ameriwewland tonight? Riots? Civil war? Nothing at all?

[Anonymous No.16708494]

>>16708475
Leftists getting absolutely BTFO and America becoming a white ethnostate with a strict caste system

[Anonymous No.16708498]

>>16708475
You know when you're getting raped in prison, and it's happened so many times you're fucking numb to it, but you know from experience that your rapist still needs to believe that he is completely dominating you, so you fight him off a little bit because if you just lay there like a corpse you know the beating is worse? So that he can fully simulate a rape even though now it's something much more grotesque? For which we have no word, but it's whatever happens after rape is buried for months in a dark damp hole of empty feelings and regret, and ferments?
That's what's gonna happen in america tonight. Any feeble response is just playing along.

[Anonymous No.16708505]

>>16708475
Nothing big is going to happen, we may have a few riots but that's it. Americans are too pampered to do rebellions or revolutions, they all want to be hedonist or are hedonist.

[Anonymous No.16708520]

>>16707502
i'd give her a smooch

[Anonymous No.16708529]

>>16707717
Thomas Chatterton Williams

[Anonymous No.16708531]

>>16708494
and you're the most untouchable of them all

[Anonymous No.16708538]

>>16708494
>with a strict caste system
so...
>Jewish people on top
>East Asian people second (Including Asian passing Latinx)
>South Asian people third
>Indigenous Americans fourth (Including Indigenous passing Latinx)
>White Americans (Including White passing Latinx) Fifth
>Black Americans (Including Black passing Latinx) Sixth

[Anonymous No.16708549]

>>16708538
That wouldn't be a white ethnostate, retard.

[Anonymous No.16708558]

>>16708549
You're correct, it'll be what actually happens.

[Anonymous No.16708569]

>>16708498
>this is what leftists think about
You people really are deranged.

[Anonymous No.16708576]

>>16708569
I couldn't even tell which side of the aisle he was on lol, you can read the post both ways depending on your priors.

[Anonymous No.16708586]

>>16708576
>>16708569
I just wrote it as a creative exercise, I wasn't actually speaking to any particular political end

[Anonymous No.16708594]

>>16708475
They're going to vote for Biden and make me a few hundred euros, millions of Americans are working for me, god bless

[Anonymous No.16708601]

>>16708594
did you bet on the spread?

[Anonymous No.16708617]

>>16708475
>Trump wins
>renames Republican party to Aryan Nationalist Party
>Israel nuked into oblivion
>mass execution for all BLM and Antifa members
screencap this

[Anonymous No.16708627]

>>16708453
Lmao. Pretty liberal of you.

[Anonymous No.16708656]

>>16708594
You are about to lose a lot of money, Eurobro.

[Anonymous No.16708734]

How do I get an arthoe gf bros? Where do I go and what image should I project I just want one to consistently bang

[Anonymous No.16708751]

>>16708734
Honestly dude, the highest density arthoes are in nowhere suburbs feeling alienated from their shitty high school.

[Anonymous No.16708771]

>>16708734
Start a Crystal Castles ripoff band and they will come to you

[Anonymous No.16708901]

>>16708734
>changing your behavior for girls
What an absolute cuck.

[Anonymous No.16708988]

>>16707898
>Thomas Sowell
Neoliberal don't count as people, silly anon!

[Anonymous No.16708990]

>>16708901
>you lie to women for sex wow what a cuck!
Okay incel

[Anonymous No.16709071]

>>16707467
bold move cotton lets see how it plays out

[Anonymous No.16709082]

>>16708990
simp
>>16709071
reddit

[Anonymous No.16709090]

>>16709082
>i don't know what a simp is but I ran out of words to call you

[Anonymous No.16709343]

>>16709090
fag

[Anonymous No.16709635]

>>16707591
That sounds like the kind of thing Danny Glover's character in Atlanta would spend a whole episode cringing over.

[Anonymous No.16709671]

>>16707512
just check the harlem renaissance

[Anonymous No.16709678]

>>16707512
Awful, surface level take. Read Jean Toomer or Du Bois

[Anonymous No.16709960]

>>16707675
This is a larp.

[Anonymous No.16709973]

Isn't the American canon pretty much just Dickinson, Melville and Faulkner anyway ?

[Anonymous No.16710062]

>>16708400
then how THE FUCK do niggas like me still exist
evolution is fucking bullshit and I'm the proof

[Anonymous No.16710095]

>>16707489

Rap is not literature, you numbskull.

[Anonymous No.16710120]

>>16709973
Emerson, Poe, Hawthorne, Twain, Whitman, James, Fitzgerald, Eliot, Pound, Wolfe, Hemingway, Steinbeck are all part of the canon as far as I can tell

[Anonymous No.16710131]

>>16710120
Pound and Eliot are honorary euros

[Anonymous No.16710141]

>>16710131
That may be but they were Americans, just as Nabokov was Russian

[Anonymous No.16710150]

>>16707675
based

[Anonymous No.16710191]

Does the art ho/indie/hipster scene still exist? I thought everyone just listens to awful rap music now.

[Anonymous No.16710308]

>>16707545
This, it's Neo Mandarin administrative class indoctrination

[Anonymous No.16710325]

>>16707675
>9 times out of 10, female professors who say things like this are BEGGING to get fucked by Big Canonical Cock.
The current year is a gigantic civilizational meta-political shit test

>>16710191
>Does the art ho/indie/hipster scene still exist?
It's always there in one form or another

[Anonymous No.16710376]

>>16707467
You know you can absolutely ask that she qualify those kinds of statements and have a conversation instead of REEEEEing silently then coming here to bitch about it.

[Anonymous No.16710393]

>>16710376
>You know you can absolutely ask that she qualify those kinds of statements
Yeah and get kicked out of the university for hate speech and your name blacklisted for all future employers.

[Anonymous No.16710408]

>take art classes
>teacher says he gets sick of transgender pronouns bullshit
pretty based

[Anonymous No.16710504]

>>16707467
>american history

[Anonymous No.16710512]

>>16707545
>thinks he's original while spouting the same exact gen x/millennial rhetoric over and over to cope for their poor life choices