print books BTFO'd

[Anonymous No.16697765]

Five reasons you should stop buying physical books and take the ereader redpill

1.) E-Books are on the rise and will soon overtake physical books
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160124-are-paper-books-really-disappearing
>While no one can say with certainty what the future holds for paper books, Stein believes that what is a plateau now will... return to a steep incline. “We’re in a transitional period,” he says. “The affordances of screen reading will continuously improve and expand, offering people a reason to switch to screens.”

2.) People who buy physical books do it primarily for showing off instead of for any practical reasons
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/19/physical-books-still-outsell-e-books-and-heres-why.html
>People love to display what they’ve read, she added. “The book lover loves to have a record of what they’ve read, and it’s about signaling to the rest of the world. It’s about decorating your home, it’s about collecting, I guess, because people are completists aren’t they, they want to have that to indicate about themselves.”

3.) the statement that 'reading comprehension is better with physical books' is a myth...
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0b37/74bff20110c30a87cf0b1372912f3afd2c3a.pdf
>In a more recent UK study, Grimshaw and Dungworth (2004) investigated 9-10 year-old students’ use of e-books and compared it to their use of p-books. The researchers found no significant difference between the reading comprehension scores of children reading the electronic versions and those reading the printed versions. In a study by Kang et al. (2009), the reading accuracies for both book types were similar.

...and in some cases, e-readers can be better than paper.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00038/full
>Due to a stable image, wider viewing angle, and the fact that they merely reflect ambient light rather than emitting light, e-readers are more reader friendly than tablets and computers, particularly for longer texts. A growing body of evidence indicates that the readability of e-readers is experienced as being equal to, and occasionally better than, that of paper (Siegenthaler et al., 2011, 2012; Benedetto et al., 2013)

[Anonymous No.16697769]

>>16697765
4.) e-readers are more eco-friendly than print books
https://www.cnet.com/news/study-paints-kindle-e-reader-a-dark-shade-of-green/
>The research and media company drew on existing studies to do a lifecycle analysis and found that the carbon emissions from electronic books are far lower than traditional book publishing.
>"The roughly 168 kg of CO2 produced throughout the Kindle's lifecycle is a clear winner against the potential savings: 1,074 kg of CO2 if replacing three books a month for four years; and up to 26,098 kg of CO2 when used to the fullest capacity of the Kindle DX. Less-frequent readers attracted by decreasing prices still can break even at 22.5 books over the life of the device," she wrote in conclusion.

5.) ebooks are cheaper than physical books, the price ebooks is much more stable than physical books, and ebooks can be pirated easily
https://www.thepennyhoarder.com/save-money/e-books-vs-print/
>Here’s where things get interesting. E-book prices are more stable than print books. Prices in the e-book market are highly competitive, since e-books sold by Kindle, for example, aren’t typically compatible with, say, NOOK devices (although some sources say it’s possible).
>Print-books prices are far more erratic. None of the print-book sellers that I consulted matched prices on a single title. And the difference in costs fluctuated by as much $5 in some cases.

Well, /lit/? Are you stupid or do you have an ereader?

[Anonymous No.16697789]

don't care, still buying paperbacks

[Anonymous No.16697796]

>>16697765
>Five reasons you should stop buying physical books
Stopped reading right there.

[Anonymous No.16697805]

>>16697765
>error, microphone detected hate-speech
>All 10,000 books in your collected have been locked until further notice

[Anonymous No.16697829]

>>16697765
Reasons you should read physical books:

E-reader 2 digit IQs think
>1.) E-Books are on the rise and will soon overtake physical books
is an argument.

[Anonymous No.16697860]

>>16697789
>>16697796
>>16697805
>>16697829
ITT: people who don't have ereaders screech autistically

[Anonymous No.16697870]

>>16697765
I use both, can’t beat the feel of holding an actual book through.

[Anonymous No.16697877]

ebooks are amazing but ereader tech is still behind the curve. compare the features of a tablet to an eink ereader. a kindle is slow and cumbersome to navigate many books. they need UI and hardware improvements. colour eink would be nice too.

ebook publishers also need to step up their game with how they format their books. ebooks can be very beautiful, but most are clunky and primitively formatted.

[Anonymous No.16697882]

>>16697860
ITT: sucker who was memed into buying a shitty device copes hard

[Anonymous No.16697893]

>>16697765
As if i care

[Anonymous No.16697917]

>>16697765
I like both but paper is better. The book is here, you own it, a firmware update or an electricity shortage won't take it from you. A healthy balance is to be found between the practicality
of ebooks and and safe mediums that are physical books.

[Anonymous No.16698021]

>>16697765
ereader will die long before i will where as a good book will out last me

[Anonymous No.16698118]

Bros are there any e-readers out there which are compatible with those 1TB SD cards? I'd like to escape to outer Mongolia with my e-library

[Anonymous No.16698152]

>>16698021
What is the point of that? Why do you need a book that will outlast you? If you read twenty books a year, in 10 years you will to keep/store 200 books, in 50 years it will be 1000 books that you have to store insise your house, it is literally a waste of space.

[Anonymous No.16698164]

>>16698152
why would anyone want ideas to last past their lifetime big guy

[Anonymous No.16698175]

>>16698152
>books that you have to store insise your house, it is literally a waste of space

[Anonymous No.16698201]

>>16698164
I don't know, if I was an author then sure but as a reader I will read a book once or several times then it is not useful to me anymore.

>>16698175
Keeping a small numbers of books I can understand but keeping that many is pointless, it is literally hoarding.

[Anonymous No.16698365]

>>16697765
Patrician

[Anonymous No.16698387]

A single EMP blast could wipe out your entire library. I'll stick with paper, thanks

[Anonymous No.16698396]

>>16697765
I have an e-reader, I just buy the books I enjoy enough to read again.

[Anonymous No.16698412]

I just use all. From books, screens to multiple einkers.

Each have charms and uses. What I love about einkers is that they're timeless. I dug out this one out of the closet where it lay for two years, charged battery and it still works like new. Screen is darker than on newer models, resolution is poor, but it's still perfectly legible.

[Anonymous No.16698422]

>>16697765
Why not avoid the parochialism inherent in basing your worldview on the opinions of "experts", and read using the format which suits you?

[Anonymous No.16698449]

>>16697765
Ever since I bought a Kindle Paperwhite last year I've been reading more than ever. Pirating ebooks is insanely easy and the Kindle store is cheap for books I can't find elsewhere for free. I say those couple of points makes buying a Kindle or ereader worth it. Not to say it's not still pleasant to own physical books, but with an ereader all you need are the physical, individual copies that you cherish rather than having to keep space for all the books you might read but probably won't. That's my testimony.

[Anonymous No.16698468]

>>16697765
>USE AND E-READER
>EAT THE BUG
>LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS
>WEAR YOUR MASK
>READ THE RESEARCH
>BE ECO-FRIENDLY
>EAT THE BUGS
>DON'T OWN NOTHING
>LIVE ACCORDING TO THE STUDIES

[Anonymous No.16698475]

>>16698118
Onyx boox max 3.

[Anonymous No.16698531]

>>16697765
Physical or digital does not matter. Literature itself is an obsolete art form.

[Anonymous No.16698576]

>>16698475
Awesome, thanks. Been looking for something like this for a while.

[Anonymous No.16698583]

>no ereader runs free software
enjoy renting your books

[Anonymous No.16698595]

>>16698468
>avoid positive increases in ease of use and QOL for fear of some abstract boogeyman.

[Anonymous No.16698606]

>>16698468
>purposely limit your access to knowledge because "the libs use e-readers"

[Anonymous No.16698615]

>>16698118

There are as mentioned above, but an average 8gb reader will already hold literal THOUSANDS of e-books. Unless you're going to escape to Mongolia with a TB of hentai manga, it's not necessary.

[Anonymous No.16698628]

>>16698583
Why would you not just easily pirate your ebooks and keep them on your drive if this concerns you? The epubs are more likely to outlast your paper collection anyway.

[Anonymous No.16698630]

>>16698583
the fuck you talking about lol just pirate your books
>>16698606
>>16698595
There's a lack of authenticity and disconnection from tradition that bothers people that aren't extremely gay and shitty.

[Anonymous No.16698641]

>>16698615
That's only if all the books are epubs, not 100 MB+ pdfs. I don't know how well those would be converted, haven't really tried.

[Anonymous No.16698657]

>>16698583
>doesn’t know about Kobo ereaders that allow side-loading of pirated ebooks

[Anonymous No.16698658]

>>16698641
Fair enough, I don't use PDFs because I have a small screen on my reader.

[Anonymous No.16698678]

>>16698658
The torrent of the Patrologia Latina, for example, amounts to 70 gigs. It's a pretty neat collection but it obviously requires a vast storage space to host it.

[Anonymous No.16698688]

>>16698678
Does your reader choke when trying to open that? Or is it divided into smaller files?

[Anonymous No.16698699]

[Anonymous No.16698709]

>>16698688
I currently don't have an ereader but I do have a plain Android tablet. The collection is split into some 170 volumes, so it's manageable. In the case of old pdfs, my tablet loads five pages or so and then has to do so again for the next five pages.

[Anonymous No.16698738]

>>16698709
ty

[Anonymous No.16698742]

Nah. The ebook market is heavily centralized around Amazon and shows no signs decentralization. I'm just not comfortable with Bezos deciding what I can and can't read.

It's also pretty obvious that the "just pirate it" option isn't going to be around forever. It would require a miracle for free internet to exist in 20 years.

[Anonymous No.16698745]

>>16697860
Based, I read 60 books this year in four different languages and I didn't pay a penny.
Seethe harder, paperbackfags.

[Anonymous No.16698757]

>>16698745
What is this, a thumbnail for ants?

[Anonymous No.16698770]

>>16698657
I have a kindle oasis that has hundreds of pirated books on it, no device requires that you only use purchased content. Any retard with a computer can use libgen to customize their device however they want it

[Anonymous No.16698776]

>>16698770
>libgen
meant calibre, libgen is where you get said pirated books

[Anonymous No.16698790]

>>16697765
These are all valid points except 2., which is pretty stupid honestly.

[Anonymous No.16698890]

>>16698742
This reasoning doesn't follow. Why wouldn't you just start collecting pirated ebooks now? The file size is tiny, you could collect literally every book on your reading list and it would likely fit on an ereader, certainly on a flash drive. If everything goes to hell like you say you can buy paper books of whatever you don't have downloaded when the time comes.

[Anonymous No.16699057]

>>16698201
good boy remember you will own nothing and be happy

[Anonymous No.16699284]

>>16698890
I have everything worth reading in Western philosophy and literature, plus quite a bit that isn't. I have all of Jung, thousands of secondary sources, introductory books on this and that, Cambridge handbooks to everything. A few collections of Western Esoteric literature, plus a sizeable amount of modern stuff. It totals ~9200 original files, and including separate cover pages & duplications in a different format, I have 42Gb of material.

It's more than anyone could read in five lifetimes, It's backed up twice on isolated drives, twice on my computers, and on Mega+Google Drive. It's taken me a few years of lazy collecting to get it all. No reason someone who is drive couldn't do it in a week. It's all still available, between torrents, Archive, and Gutenberg.

[Anonymous No.16699290]

>>16699284
If you have it backed up on internet resources, why not share it?

[Anonymous No.16699313]

>>16699290
Everything I have is available with some work and time. Why would I need to share it? Shouldn't the burden of seeking out knowledge be on those who want to learn? Is something given freely appreciated as much as something earned?

[Anonymous No.16699319]

I know this thread is bait, but...I can’t help but bite.

Even if I believed all of your reasons (a couple I don’t but won’t even worry about explaining why), I buy physical books for 1 main reason: the sweet, sweet feel of opening up and holding a physical book, flipping through its pages, underlining/highlighting, writing in the margins, leaving sticky notes to mark pages, etc.

The digital version of all of that just isn’t as appealing and tactile so I’ll stick with paperback, thank you.

Plus you can find used books at thrift stores and local bookshops for so much cheaper than ebooks. Plus, ereaders don’t actually sell you the book, you’re loaning it from then for an indeterminate amount of time and they can recall it at any point.

[Anonymous No.16699348]

>>16699319
>1
Sound, can't see any problem with that reasoning, it's you're money.
>2
When was the last time you came across a copy of The Poetics of Eros in Ancient Greece on some greasy local booksellers shelf? I have a few really good finds, but I'll likely never find a copy of Boulting's Bruno biography. Pirating, or legally downloading out of copyright books, is often the only way to get interesting works. In all else spare shit brained "muh tactility" and doomer fantasies, digital books are superior.

[Anonymous No.16699447]

>>16699348
I'm not money

[Anonymous No.16699456]

>>16697765
I already pirate my books. I will not stop eithet, despite the cunts in the thread crying.

[Anonymous No.16699609]

>>16698201
please throw away your bed/bedframe and sleep on only a mattress on the floor and clear your closet of all but 8 sets of clothes. anything more than that and you are hoarding and it is pointless thank you bye

[Anonymous No.16699629]

>>16698699
I Have a Kindle and the only complaint I have (beside shitty pdf support) is some random updates. About errors on formatting and letters changing, it's not a consequence of it being an e-reader, but of incompetence of whoever wrote/converted it. Self-published books in Amazon tend to have this same kinds of trouble.

[Anonymous No.16699635]

>>16697765

The whole thing is a false dichotomy.

Sometimes I prefer hard copy and sometimes (especially when I don't wanna pay for the book or am reading something difficult that requires me to look up multiple words a page) I use an e-reader

Why errbody always gotta make errthing either/or?
Porque no los dos?

[Anonymous No.16699646]

>>16697765
When Bezos Bugman Corp institutes a panel for the review of 'problematic' literature and starts disappearing books you have already downloaded onto your kindle, you will remember this thread and curse your retardation.

[Anonymous No.16699657]

>>16697765
I don't use either because I have no money. I just read pirated epubs off my computer

[Anonymous No.16699658]

>>16697765
Reading a screen makes my eyes hurt. Books are better.

[Anonymous No.16699757]

Ever since I bought an Oasis all I’ve done is download books ive been meaning to read for pure enjoyment and/or books I don’t want to pay for (rereading, NYRB, Man/Booker or Pulitzer winners). I still have a huge backlog of books for “serious” reading (I couldn’t find good editions of Swift or Wilde on libgen) but I’ve already loaded it with more than its worth in books. And the whole e-ink, warm light, page buttons package is a delight.

[Anonymous No.16700601]

>>16699290
There are torrents for a lot of bookpacks on piratebay. You can get complete collections of Cambridge Histories, Cambridge Companions and the Cambridge Texts in the History of Philosophy for a start.

[Anonymous No.16700619]

>>16699313
It would make it easier for people who want to have such a library. There would be no need to repeat the process of carefully selecting digital copies to see which are corrupted, unreadable or just too large. And it would also function as a founding block for anyone who wants to build their own personal elibrary.

[Anonymous No.16700689]

>>16699658
From pc, tablet, etc. sure, but this one doesn't make your eyes hurt

[Anonymous No.16700708]

Any good way to sensibly tag large libraries in Calibre without going over every book separately?

[Anonymous No.16701109]

Might as well just use this thread.
Is there any significant improvement in new Kindle versions? I still have one from 7 years ago and it works perfectly, but I was wondering if there were significant quality of life changes since then, although Im not actually missing anything.

[Anonymous No.16701123]

>>16697882
Seething

[Anonymous No.16701139]

>>16697860
Imagine not physically owning and having control over your own literature. What happens when an author or government decided a book ought to be "updated" or even unpublished?

[Anonymous No.16701146]

>>16697765
>500th thread on this
Is this the console wars of /lit/ even though the average Anon here doesn't care or already has an E-Reader in addition to X amount of books?

[Anonymous No.16701155]

>>16697765
>>16697769
Based take, any based non-pozzed e-readers under 300 bucks?

[Anonymous No.16701158]

>>16698387
Maybe, maybe not.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/5d-data-storage-how-does-it-work-and-when-can-we-use-it/

[Anonymous No.16701174]

enjoy the blue light damage

[Anonymous No.16701211]

>>16701174
t. person currently using a blue light device

[Anonymous No.16701226]

>>16701139
if this hypothetical, paranoid scenario actually happens, it will affect me exactly as much as it will affect you - not at all

[Anonymous No.16701262]

>>16701139
When that happens, it's a good thing you have a portable, easy-to-hide ebook and not a big, fragile paper book.

[Anonymous No.16701274]

>>16701155
Kobo products are great, non Bezos, library- and piracy-friendly. Most are waterproof. Their product is excellent but their customer service is admittedly awful.

[Anonymous No.16701282]

i buy physical copies to give myself a break from computers. but also because i consider my physical books to be life long possessions while a kindle is disposable

[Anonymous No.16701301]

>>16701211
Wrong, my monitor is set to shades of red

[Anonymous No.16701321]

>>16701109
Main features:
backlight
300 dpi
waterproof
touch screen

[Anonymous No.16701354]

Can't i just read off my phone with blue light filter enabled

[Anonymous No.16701510]

>>16698387
A single fire would wipe out your entire library. What's more common, EMPs or fires?

[Anonymous No.16701670]

>>16698742
Amazon drm is a joke and is removed easily (and it is legal), you can buy e books on amazon and read them on kindles or on other readers, you can get books from other online marketplaces and read them on kindle

[Anonymous No.16701735]

>>16701174
Kobo and new kindles have color temperature adjustment, all way to "warm" and the screen looks orange/brown without any blue. Very comfy.

>>16699456
I pirate too, but keep in mind if you and others like you just read the books without supporting the author, the author will stop writing and releasing new books

[Anonymous No.16701846]

>>16701735
> if you and others like you just read the books without supporting the author, the author will stop writing and releasing new books

Imagine reading books written by living authors lmao

This post was made by archive.org gang

[Anonymous No.16702386]

I find reading physical book more cozy, the real reason why e-books are so popular is because they are practicallly free.

[Anonymous No.16702433]

I like both. I like the feeling of paperbacks and the smell of new ones. I also like the feeling of finishing the book, turning page after page. Sometimes I don’t like paperback, since sometimes I have to hunt down a specific book. So I’ll use a e-reader and download books easily without the paying anything.

[Anonymous No.16702438]

>>16697765
I'm almost exclusively reading ebooks but this console war like baiting is really sad
everyone have their preferences, one form doesn't invalidate the other, both have pros and cons
I think we definitely should keep physical books and nurture ebooks(readers too, I feel the current tech is a bit outdated)
the goal is to have fun and gain knowledge, to read and to do this, both can be used

[Anonymous No.16702514]

Are physical books superior because OP is a faggot, or is OP a faggot because paper books are superior?

[Anonymous No.16703113]

>>16697765
What's an ereader that doesn't have pants-on-head retarded file management? I just want to be able to sort my ebooks into standard directories like I would on any other device and my kindle doesn't let me do that.

[Anonymous No.16703121]

>>16703113
Kobo or any ereader that runs android os

[Anonymous No.16703123]

>>16702386
>the real reason why e-books are so popular is because they are practicallly free.
This is the main reason I read ebooks, secondary to that is library portability and Ctrl+f searching.

[Anonymous No.16703141]

>>16701155
>>16701274
Kobos are real nice, but by what stretch of the imagination are they privacy friendly? They require you to use/create a rakuten account just for system updates and overdrive access, and they suggest books based on the books on your device.

[Anonymous No.16703144]

Bought one and it's somewhat like a real book. I prefer physical textbooks though, however reading fiction on it with physical turn buttons feel pretty nice. I never like reading on my phone because it's just endless scrolling.

[Anonymous No.16703565]

>>16702438
based sensible anon

[Anonymous No.16703726]

>>16701274
>>16703141

I think you've misread "piracy" as "privacy", friend

[Anonymous No.16703754]

>>16703726
Ah, that makes sense

[Anonymous No.16703839]

>>16703141
> They require you to use/create a rakuten account just for system updates

No, you can also sideload system updates. I'm using a Kobo that has never in its lifetime been connected to the Internet.

[Anonymous No.16704549]

>>16703839
I got a Kobo Libra H2O recently and, although I was able to bypass the sign-on procedure and get right to side-loading books, I was unaware until now that I could side-load updates. Could you link me to a guide or resource for this? Thanks so much anon.

[Anonymous No.16704592]

>>16697765
i used to be a print-purist but i kept buying more shit faster than i could read it, costs a lot of money and takes up space in my small apartment. now i just pirate everything. backlit screen is fantastic as well since the lighting in my apartment is terrible and now i don't have to worry about positioning a lamp and then sitting perfectly still for hours or else i lose my good angle

[Anonymous No.16704604]

>>16697765
1
>digital popular
2
>paper pretentious
3
>strawman
4
>plastic good paper bad
5
>dude pirate lmao
Damn, how will booklets ever recover bros?

[Anonymous No.16704841]

Our generation grew up with physical books so we think that is the most natural. In a few decades kids will grow up with e-readers and paper will be unnatural

[Anonymous No.16705179]

>>16697765
I spent ~CAD$140 for a kindle PW, a protective case, and unlimited FREE books. It's so easy to pirate books nowadays that I'd feel silly shelling out twenty, thirty, maybe even FIFTY dollars for 20 year old book. I read MORE now that I have easy access to anything I've ever wanted. Plus (I would argue) reading on an ebook is comfier than a physical book. It's much lighter and I can easily read with one hand or in the dark. Not to mention how little space an ereader takes up. I have 3000 books, enough for decades, in something 1/4 the size and weight of a normal book. Didn't spend a cent on any of them. E-Ink > physical unless you're rich and want to build a large library, which is respectable.

[Anonymous No.16705419]

>>16701262
Imagine being this much of a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.16705475]

>>16697765

You want me to buy an $89 e-reader tablet thing where Barnes and Noble or Amazon can delete your purchases without your knowledge? There was a thread on /tv/ a couple of days ago that said that people who buy streaming services don't own the movies they watch, same as for e-readers, you don't really own any of the books you buy. Also, e-readers need constant charging and how are you going to recharge your e-reader when you don't have electricity for a week or more because a typhoon or hacker has disabled the electrical grid?

[Anonymous No.16705493]

>>16705475
Pirate all of your ebooks
>because a typhoon or hacker has disabled the electrical grid?
What'll you do when a typhoon destroys your house and all your books

[Anonymous No.16705508]

>>16705493
I would imagine that typhoons aren't much of a concern to people who don't live near oceans

[Anonymous No.16705565]

>>16705475
>There was a thread on /tv/ a couple of days ago that said that people who buy streaming services don't own the movies they watch
yeah no fucking shit moron was this new information to you?

My Kindle has:

1. Never been connected to the internet
2. Never been logged in to an Amazon account
3. Hundreds of pirated books, and will have hundreds more.

>e-readers need constant charging

if you mean getting charged every 2-3 weeks then sure, but if you don't have access to power for 2-3 weeks then you have a bigger problems

[Anonymous No.16705610]

>>16697765
Can't have a bookshelf thread if everybody is digital

[Anonymous No.16705642]

>>16705493

The house I live in is made of concrete and we are getting typhoon shutters after the new windows are done being installed.

>>16705508

I live on Guam, a small island in the South Pacific, right up Typhoon alley.

>>16705565

What? How much power does an e-reader use? And why not just buy the actual books instead of pirating them?

[Anonymous No.16705969]

bump to fuel discussion

[Anonymous No.16705972]

>>16697789
Based Arab

[Anonymous No.16706023]

>>16701735
>I pirate too, but keep in mind if you and others like you just read the books without supporting the author, the author will stop writing and releasing new books
o shit, what am i gonna do when Plato stops writing new stuff

[Anonymous No.16706034]

>>16697765
Threads like this only make me want to use e-books less.

[Anonymous No.16706036]

>>16705642
>And why not just buy the actual books instead of pirating them?
imagine asking this

[Anonymous No.16706192]

>>16706023
>>16706036

You can download Plato's books from the Gutenberg website. His books are in the public domain.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/93

[Anonymous No.16706247]

>>16698412
how do I change margins on K4 like this

[Anonymous No.16706646]

>>16705642
>What? How much power does an e-reader use? And why not just buy the actual books instead of pirating them?

Fucking none dude, ereader batteries last for fucking ever.

Pirating ebooks means I can get them without giving money to Amazon, it means I can get them without cucking my Kindle, and it means I can read whatever book I want lol.

[Anonymous No.16706762]

>>16704549
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2159181&postcount=3

tl;dr:
> Connect your device to the computer and select Connect on the device (if asked).
> Copy the entire contents of the zip file to the .kobo directory on the device. Do not copy the original zip file itself to the device.
> Safely remove the device from Windows (or your operating system of choice).
> Disconnect the device from your computer.
The device will now install the new software.

[Anonymous No.16707697]

>>16698475
>Onyx boox max 3.

THIS

you literally have no idea what an ereader is until you experience one of these

[Anonymous No.16707900]

>>16707697
They're pretty good.

[Anonymous No.16708429]

>>16707900
>kindle getting absolutely mogged

[Anonymous No.16708440]

>>16708429
>Paying $800 for a product which is marginally better than a Kindle or Kobo

[Anonymous No.16708459]

I feel ebooks certainly have their advantages, but paper is a better experiencie, Books are like Vinyl's of literature, and you can choose both.

[Anonymous No.16708473]

>>16708440

>thinks 4x the screen size is "marginal"

[Anonymous No.16708479]

>>16705565
>if you mean getting charged every 2-3 weeks then sure
I have a paperwhite and at backlight level 12, battery lasts maybe 3 days (reading 10 hours a day), it definetely doesn't last 3 weeks unless you are talking about stand by mode, I had a voyager before and it also lasted about 30 hours.

[Anonymous No.16708481]

>>16708440
Yes, fully rendered PDF's with no zooming.

[Anonymous No.16708491]

>>16705179
The only problem with pw is to turn page forward you have to touch right side of the screen, so reading while holding it with one (left) hand is impossible, but I am on old firmware, maybe new updates fixed this

[Anonymous No.16708501]

>>16708473
USD$ 849 vs $100 for a paperwhite
What do you get for you $749?
You're not reading 300mb pdfs, you don't need the better processor. Markup function is nice, but I don't think it's any better or significantly easier than written notes. The larger screen is the only real benefit, and I'm sure the majority would not want to pay 8.5x the price for a larger screen. Maybe you can convince me otherwise.

[Anonymous No.16708510]

>>16701139
Well they cannot delete files from your device, at least not pirated ones without the Internet.
With the Internet they perhaps could, but it would be a company suicide.
And even if they decided to delete your pirated books (which I don't know is possible, but let's say it is), then most people keep their library on some other storage (like PC) also. The files are very small and easy to store on anything. And if your particular e-reader company decides to chimp out and put malicious software that deletes all books on all their clients' devices, then you can just read the files on some other company's e-reader or a computer. It's not like the technology is some secret that only Amazon has the knowledge about.
Pretty sure can't access the files on your Kindle though, the only way for them to do it would be to put a virus into a firmware and release an update.

[Anonymous No.16708528]

>>16707900
>big = gud

[Anonymous No.16708536]

>>16708510
Only solution is to chisel everything we ever want to read into granite and launch it into a stable orbit around Titan. Utility be damned.
Unless globohomo reptilian Kantbot creatures are actually extant, I'd agree that our files are safe from gov. or corporations. If Amazon decides to wipe a device, it'd be huge and market alternatives would flourish.

[Anonymous No.16708548]

>>16708528
It is though, drag and drop, no conversions necessary, supports just about any file you can throw at it. Can't fit in your pocket though.

[Anonymous No.16708559]

>>16708528
you realize pdfs are shit to read on ereaders that are small right?

[Anonymous No.16708568]

>>16708559
Gee golly gosh, if only there were another format out there that might be more suited to the majority of ereaders. Someone should look into that.

[Anonymous No.16708571]

>>16708548
>Can't fit in your pocket though.
Portability is one of the main factors for e-readers I think
Maybe if you work in academia (or read scientific papers often) and really need to display pdfs well.
And maybe if you have a car and a job where it's quite safe, like an office.
It is still bulky to hold I imagine tho

[Anonymous No.16708661]

>>16698745
how did you select your books? Did you have a plan in advance or did you decide at the point when you were finished with the previous one?

[Anonymous No.16708679]

>>16708661
I mostly just picked them off the NYT bestseller list, and tossed in a few of the greats, like Infinite Jest, and the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.16708795]

>>16707900
>500 bucks
>No MSD slot
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.16708804]

>>16708568
converting pdfs rarely works. scans especially are awful

[Anonymous No.16708886]

>>16697765
>People who buy physical books do it primarily for showing off instead of for any practical reasons
Unironically, yes. A bookshelf is a conversation starter and it gives guests a quick glance into your thoughts and interests.

I also hate reading off displays and hate the idea that I don't own what I'm reading.
>sorry goy, we found that book you were reading problematic so we removed it from our libraries!

[Anonymous No.16708903]

The Jew fears the HDD owner.

Can you make an argument that I am somehow not in possession of files, but am in possession of books? My files are isolated from the internet, backed up 4x, and are more likely to survive most natural disasters than any book I own.

[Anonymous No.16708917]

>>16697765
A solar flare can't destroy physical books.

[Anonymous No.16708927]

>>16708917
Right, and how many solar flares have there been in the last 500 years that have come close to being strong enough to destroy electronics? How many floods, fires, earthquakes, etc., have there been?

[Anonymous No.16708949]

>>16708927
Are you implying that floods, fires, and earthquakes wouldn't destroy an e-reader?

[Anonymous No.16708972]

>>16708949
The difference is, if there's a flood or whatever I can grab my one (1) ereader and have my thousands of books saved
Can you say the same for your bookshelves?

[Anonymous No.16708980]

>>16708949
nope, because it's waterproof and in my pocket

[Anonymous No.16708995]

>>16708972
>Can you say the same for your bookshelves?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16708996]

>>16708949
Risk from all three can be mitigated by storing files in physical drives that are in a decent safe. Most people of any intelligence have a safe that is fire, water, and crush proof for their documents and valuables.
Another layer of protection is possible by utilizing cloud storage. Before you point to the eternal jew, there are multiple options for online storage that aren't Google/Amazon.
I also have a copy of my library on my phone, which is always on me and waterproof. If I'm burnt alive or sucked into the bowels of the earth, then books will be the least of my concern.
How many layers of redundancy, can you apply to physical books, and what is the cost of those layers?

[Anonymous No.16709000]

>>16707900
may as well drag a laptop around

[Anonymous No.16709007]

>>16708479
>backlight level 12
are you blind?
>(reading 10 hours a day)
get a job and some exercise

[Anonymous No.16709008]

>>16708996
>He doesn't have book insurance

[Anonymous No.16709023]

>>16709008
>Hey guys, I know the global order has collapsed, and the electrical grid is unsalvageable. Mothers are eating their children in the streets, and planes are dropping out of the skies. But, when can I expect that payout for my six copies of Infinite Jest?

[Anonymous No.16709028]

>>16709000
A laptop doesn't have e-ink

[Anonymous No.16709050]

>>16708886
>Unironically, yes. A bookshelf is a conversation starter and it gives guests a quick glance into your thoughts and interests.

this is why i keep normie books and well known classics in the open. all the sudden im relatable and interesting to the normie. my actual interests, which would alienate 99.99% of all guests and family memebers are hidden in my office/reading room

[Anonymous No.16709056]

I sell ebooks and paperbacks and I can say...
...both of my sales are at zero for the last ninety days.

[Anonymous No.16709061]

>>16709056
what do you sell them on? Ebay? Abebooks?

[Anonymous No.16709186]

>>16709061
Amazon and I'm in that KDP thing. To be fair though I haven't spent any advertising dollars though so I'm probably overlooked more due to that than anything else.

[Anonymous No.16709192]

>>16709186
What kind of books do you sell normally? Paperbacks, I mean

[Anonymous No.16709287]

>>16709192
It's an afterlife drama series that I plan to continue until I die of old age or someone chops my hands off. I've only got 5 8.50 by 11.00 300 page books done so far.
I posted the series once a long time ago when it was just one book and it didn't get much traction, so I'm trying to get libraries to carry it right now.

[Anonymous No.16709290]

You can read pdfs on a >5" smartphone using ebookdroid, it can auto crop pages, auto split double pages, fix skew and so on. Since I got myself a big smartphone I never used my 9" kindle tablet or my ebook.

[Anonymous No.16709407]

>With printed books,
>You can buy one with cash, anonymously.
> Then you own it.
> You are not required to sign a license that restricts your use of it.
> The format is known, and no proprietary technology is needed to read the book.
> You have the right to give, lend or sell the book to another.
> You can, physically, copy the book, and it's sometimes lawful under copyright.
> Nobody has the power to remotely destroy your book.

>Contrast that with Amazon ebooks (fairly typical):
>Amazon requires users to identify themselves to get an ebook.
>In some countries, including the US, Amazon says the user cannot own the ebook.
>Amazon requires the user to accept a restrictive license on use of the ebook.
>The format is secret and only proprietary user-restricting software lawfully supports it.
>The Kindle tells Amazon what page the user is reading, plus any notes the user enters.
>An ersatz “lending” is allowed for some books, for a limited time, but only by
specifying by name another user of the same system. No giving or selling.
>Copying the ebook is blocked by Digital Restrictions Management .
>Amazon can remotely delete the ebook using a back door.
>In 2009, Amazon deleted thousands of copies of George Orwell's 1984. this way.
>Amazon can do anything to a Kindle user through a universal back door.

[Anonymous No.16709426]

>>16709407
Or you can go to one of many websites and just download it for free.

[Anonymous No.16709530]

>>16709407
Damn yeah that's crazy anyways I'm gonna get back to enjoying my thousands of pirated epubs on my kindle

[Anonymous No.16709768]

to be honest this is just another way of controlling the population and information

[Anonymous No.16709813]

>>16698583
>>16698628
>>16698630
>>16698657
>>16698770
>retards dont know what free software is
enjoy your future DRM that disallows all books not through their service and doesn't let you use your ereader without being connected to the internet and no other options available because print books are deemed 'unnecessary' with such low demand and ideological (industry) opposition that they're barely printed anymore and extremely expensive. also your limited selection of books of course omitting anything deemed wrong by the service.

[Anonymous No.16710570]

>>16709287
What's the name anon?

[Anonymous No.16711035]

>>16708491
I have large hands so this isn't a problem for me, and I usually don't read with one hand completely pinned either.

[Anonymous No.16711039]

>>16708491
I too have tiny hands.

[Anonymous No.16711051]

>>16709407
Is this the gnu Linux guy?

[Anonymous No.16711623]

>>16697769
> 5.) ebooks are cheaper than physical books

ha ha. really? or you mean pirated books?> >

[Anonymous No.16711820]

>>16701510
>what are fire extinguishers

[Anonymous No.16712073]

>I like physical books
>I do not like e-books
That's as far as the debate needs to go for me to not give the least bit of a fuck about kindles