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16694261 No.16694261 [Reply] [Original]

>he fell for the start with the Greeks meme

>> No.16694274

>>16694261
Jokes aside why are spics so fragile when it comes to english literature?

>> No.16694294

>>16694274
Envy's a bitch.

>> No.16694304

Start and end with the Southerners.

>> No.16694350

>>16694304
Name five southern authors.

>> No.16694363

>>16694350
Faulkner, Twain, some of the founding fathers I assume

>> No.16694372

>>16694350
I know of Mitchell, Faulkner, O'Connor and that's it, does Whittman counts?

>> No.16694383

>>16694372
Whitman is from New York.

>> No.16694391

>>16694350
OP here. The other guys also left out Poe. Thing about Southern literature is it's pretty inconsistent by time period and there has never been an intelligentsia to speak of. They're good writers, but you can't really say there's a true literary school.

>inb4 Southern Gothic
Nah, that's just a made up label for Faulkner and his devotees.

>> No.16694488

>start with the greeks
>a meme
Ngmi.

>> No.16694499

>>16694261
>reading the yanks

>> No.16694504

Walden was nice.

>> No.16694675

>>16694261
Fuck there's some good stuff there.

>> No.16694715

>>16694675
I actually haven't read Walden yet, strangely enough. I recently read every novel by Hawthorne besides Fanshawe, which is juvenilia.

>> No.16695948

>>16694715
What would you recommend from Hawthorne beyond The Scarlet Letter? That’s all I’ve read

>> No.16696066

>>16694304
Welty, O’Connor, McCullers, Hurston, Porter

>> No.16696068

>>16696066
Whoops, meant for >>16694350

>> No.16696081
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16696081

>>16694261
>he fell for the Walden meme

>> No.16696098

>no Jack London
Bunch of faggot queers ITT

>> No.16696607

>>16696098
Jack London is good but I wouldn't recommend someone start with him because he is a minor writer compared to others.

>> No.16696761

>>16695948
His other novels deal with the weight of sin like the Scarlet Letter, but they involve other transgressions. I would just recommend reading them in order of publication because it's interesting to see how his style grows more sophisticated with each novel. Finishing with Marble Faun was a treat -- a fun little book that takes place in Rome and the Tuscan countryside. You'll also notice that some of the characters in the Scarlet Letter reappear under different names but in more contemporary 1850's time.

Something I have found interesting about Hawthorne is that after reading his novels I feel as if I don't know the writer anymore than I did before. It is hard to tell if, for example, the New Englanders in Marble Faun really represent his views or if they are just one part of a dialectic.

>> No.16697432

>>16694391
Baloney

>> No.16697439

>>16696081
You have to be braindead not to get the ‘what I expected’ after reading Walden.

>> No.16697482

>>16694261
Unironically, starting with the Yanks isn't a bad idea. American literature tends to have this certain sense adventure and certain kind of wit which will make it more entertaining to new readers. (This is not to say that American lit is inferior) Instead of starting at the chronological beginnings of literature, I think it's much more rewarding to start with 19th century American literature, and branch out from there.

>> No.16697489

>>16694261
Based. If you’re American and read anything other than Americans, gtfo wannabe eurofag.

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16698103

>>16694261
Start with the micks

>> No.16698159

>>16694274
most of american literature is peak average, there´s nothing outstanding about their works, maybe Moby Dick is the exception but that´s about it

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>>16694261
5 2 3 1 4

>> No.16698208

>>16698159
What are some other outstanding works from other countries?

>> No.16698548

>>16698208
i think russian literature literally mogs them hard, the french and spanish too, even the irish are mighty in comparison, i think if i was american i would´ve been ashamed

>> No.16698593

>>16698159
>>16698548
This kind of /int/ tier bashing other countries through proxy literature squabbles is really stupid. I assume anyone who regularly engages in it to care more about image and outward appeal than the actual substance any of the books actually contain.

>> No.16698607

>>16698548
Sounds like personal preference. Hemingway, Hawthorne, and Lovecraft alone overshadow Irish lit, let alone Melville and Twain and Faulkner. I really don't think you're being fair. Spain, really? I won't defend Americans as musicians, painters, or poets, but our literary tradition ranks among the very finest.

>> No.16698671

>>16698593
>>16698607
Russia

War and Peace - Tolstoy
Oblomov - Ivan Goncharov
Crime and Punishment- Dostoevsky

France

The Charterhouse of Parma - Stendhal
Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert
In Search of Lost Time - Marcel Proust

Spain

Don Quixote - Cervantes
The Trickster of Seville and the Stone Guest-Tirso de Molina
Punishment without Revenge - Lope de Vega

Irish

James Joyce entire ouvre, in fact this single man obliterates the US canon altogether, tough act to follow i might say


also the fact that those countries not only dabbed with literature, but plays, opera, poetry just speaks for itself, i said it again, i would´ve been ashamed to be an american, such a poor state of artistry

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>>16698607
>but our literary tradition ranks among the very finest.


dude just stop it, it makes me laugh hard

>> No.16698730

>>16698671
Don't forget that Ireland also lays claim to Samuel Beckett, Laurence Sterne, Oscar Wilde, William Butler Yeats, Bram Stoker, Seamus Heaney, George Bernard Shaw, Jonathan Swift

>> No.16698749

>>16698671
>>16698705
w.e. fuck you cunts

>> No.16698753

>>16698671
>would´ve

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>>16698671
America

Stoner - John Williams

this single book obliterates europe's canon altogether. tough act to follow i might say

>> No.16698843

>>16698772
Looks like the debate ends here.