/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16692754]

Books on the importance of sleep?

[Anonymous No.16692765]

This guy wrote a book on it but it's shorter to just watch the podcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwaWilO_Pig

[Anonymous No.16692777]

>>16692765
Most of that shit is alarmist shit at worst and with good intention at best.

[Anonymous No.16692778]

>>16692765
cringe

[Anonymous No.16692779]

>>16692765
But what the fuck should I do. Should I sleep 3 less and achieve more with 1,5 extra months than everyone else or should I be an underachieving 8-hours a day normie?

[Anonymous No.16692791]

>>16692779
Just regulate your sleep however you want nigga.

[Anonymous No.16692803]

>>16692754
Did Aristote even said that?

[Anonymous No.16692805]

>>16692779
Whatever amount of sleep makes you feel best is probably best.

[Anonymous No.16692857]

>>16692779
No, just sleep 7 to 8 hours a day.
First, set an alarm for when you want to wake up and jump out of the bed immediately when the alarm goes off. No lingering in bed, no sleeping in, just get out of bed and eat breakfast or something. It helps if you put the alarm where you can't reach from your bed.
Second, no electronics in your bedroom. Don't shit where you eat basically.
Third, no electronics for an hour before sleep. About 9 hours before your alarm, just put away all your electronics and go anywhere else and do anything else, it doesn't have to be your bedroom.

[Anonymous No.16692867]

>>16692754
I sleep like 14 hours a day

[Anonymous No.16692964]

>>16692779
normies are sleep deprived. sleep more.

[Anonymous No.16692971]

>>16692803
it sounds like something a C-tier youtuber who makes videos about productivity would say

[Anonymous No.16693204]

>>16692765
His book is really good for a layperson and he is extremely credentialed on the subject.

[Anonymous No.16693670]

Elon musk sleeps 4 hours. Thats why he's rich

[Anonymous No.16693717]

No one successful sleeps for more than 4 hours a night. DFW slept for 2 hours a night. Hemingway, Pound and Dickens slept 1 hour. Kant didn't sleep at all most nights

[Anonymous No.16693808]

>>16692803
Did you catch the last name?

[Anonymous No.16693819]

>>16693670

Not to hate on his success, but he also looks like total shit a lot of the time.

Don't make me spam Matt Walker's book about sleep. The amount of people that can function on 4 hours sleep, or less than 6 hours long term are basically less than a few tenths of a percent of the population, IIRC.

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>>16693670
He was born into wealth. That’s why he’s rich.

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>>16693828

He wasn't born with 1/1000th of the wealth he has now, lunkhead.

Yeah, it's a great head start, but he could have easily screwed it up if he was dumb.

[Anonymous No.16693997]

>>16692857
>About 9 hours before your alarm, just put away all your electronics and go anywhere else and do anything else, it doesn't have to be your bedroom.
What the hell else am I supposed to do though? Especially if I don't like reading before going to sleep because it keeps me up thinking

[Anonymous No.16694211]

>>16693670
He's lying you dipshit. The "bro you gotta work 18 hour days 7 days a week and sleep 4 hours every night" crap is so people don't toss these people out high rise windows. It's to make you say "oh okay, that's fair, that's why he has enough money to last 100 lifetimes." If all it took to be a billionaire was working 18 hours a day, we'd all work a fraction of that and still have 9 digit net worths.

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>>16693828
Kill yourself tranny

[Anonymous No.16694307]

>>16693997
That's for you to figure out every night. Go for a short walk, meditate, write something, etc.

[Anonymous No.16694606]

I need 6 hours sleep a night, any less I'm light-headed, any more I'm lethargic.

[Anonymous No.16695721]

>>16694606
Ok

[Anonymous No.16695735]

early to bed and 8 hours of sleep gang
where my niggas at

[Anonymous No.16695749]

>>16692779
Sleep deprivation shortens your lifespan, so my guess would be to reduce your ideal sleep time just a little. Just 30 mins to an 1h. If you feel like shit all day what does 3 extra hours mean really.

[Anonymous No.16695757]

>>16693997
Do whatever the fuck people did before smartphones, computers and TV. Cmon it's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.16695859]

>>16695757
>Do whatever the fuck people did before smartphones
but anon I can't have sex because no gf

[Anonymous No.16695876]

>>16693670
So the difference between $40k and $4bn is just over three hours less sleep per day. Wow...

[Anonymous No.16695902]

>>16692779
jesus fucking christ. Just sleep 8-9 hours, and stop taking memes seriously. If you constantly have a sleep deficit, your T levels are going to tank. You will get fat, depressed, unmotivated, and lazy.

[Anonymous No.16696523]

>>16693670
Hahaha

[Anonymous No.16696706]

Sleep is where your mind and body get repaired. essential if your job is physical or mental. the only people who don't need sleep are neets.

[Anonymous No.16696714]

I often get ideas for my books in dreams. Dreams are fucking kino. Sleep is important.

[Anonymous No.16696718]

Y'all niggas need to get one of those wake up lights. Being awoken by a beeping alarm in a pitch black room is awful. Also early to bed and early to rise should be the goal for everyone. No here is a night owl by nature, that is a learned behaviour.

[Anonymous No.16696722]

Sleep son of Erebus and Night, Sleep half-brother to the Furies

[Anonymous No.16696725]

>>16692765
This

>>16692779
8-9 hours + 30 minute nap.

[Anonymous No.16696732]

don't the research on this say that we are basically geared to pretty much going to sleep as the sun goes down, then waking up for a couple of hours in the middle of the night, then sleeping untill dawn again? that was how people used to do it? like the mantra of 8 hours of sleep only came about since we had to completely reorganized our lives during the industrialization to work for wages in factories.

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>>16692754
Who the fuck would want to be awake for a month and a half more per year nigga just let me sleep it's the only peace I have.

[Anonymous No.16696818]

What if I can't stay asleep longer than six hours at a time?

[Anonymous No.16696849]

I go to bed at 8 and wake up at 5. I haven't used an alarm in years and am NEVER tired. The last time I had a bad dream was when I was 14. My sleep is incredibly refreshing yet I stay alert enough to ward off attackers. If you need to read a book on how to fucking sleep well you are truly lost and should probably kill yourself. That is probably the best way for a subhuman like you to get some quality shut eye.
peace out!

[Anonymous No.16696937]

>>16696818


Fix your sleep hygiene, seriously.

Blue wavelength light (mostly from electronics) and LED/Fluorescent lights are the main source, telling your body it is "day time". Get a blue light filter like F.Lux on your computer, or any number of apps on your phone if you have to. Otherwise just read in low light at least 1 hour before bed.

Stop drinking coffee too, or at least stop drinking before 10am.

Get some exercise and drain your energy, your body will then need more to recover. Any days I moved house, or had a great workout I had no problem falling asleep within 15 mintues.

>>16696849

> I haven't used an alarm in years and am NEVER tired.

This is the ideal, fuck once you have kids, good fucking luck until they are 3+

[Anonymous No.16697049]

>>16692803
Aristotle Onassis aka mr Jackie kennedy

[Anonymous No.16697099]

>>16693828
Keep seething buttercunt. Imagine being a single 30 year old woman and posting on 4chan. You have no excuses

[Anonymous No.16697126]

>>16696937
Atrocious spacing.

[Anonymous No.16697132]

>>16697099
butterfly is the most based person on this board and I wish she would hold hands with me

[Anonymous No.16697451]

>>16692754
anyway look up on sleep cycle and arrange yours accordingly.

[Anonymous No.16697504]

fight club

[Anonymous No.16697514]

>Bro, I like, sleep 5 hours tops dude, I don't need sleep, man, I'm a real strong man!

[Anonymous No.16697522]

>>16696849
>I stay alert enough to ward off attackers
AMERICA FUCK YEAH

[Anonymous No.16697525]

REMINDER

Unless you wake at 3:40 AM everyday and go to bed by 9 PM, you aren't going to make it.

[Anonymous No.16697529]

>>16697525
>less than 7 hours of sleep
Enjoy your dementia.

[Anonymous No.16697535]

>>16696849
> he doesn't have kids
You're a failure to the white race.

[Anonymous No.16698603]

any books on minimizing sleep to further your delusions?

[Anonymous No.16699516]

>>16695757
I already said that I can't read because it keeps me thinking

[Anonymous No.16699729]

>tfw anxiety keeps you up all night

How do I stop being afraid of death bros? I'm always just laying in fear thinking I'm feeling or will feel the symptoms of a stroke or heart attack. It hasn't happened in the 10 years I've been dealing with this, but somehow I will get extra fucked up about it from time to time and can't sleep.

[Anonymous No.16699943]

>>16698603
This man's got you covered.

[Anonymous No.16699981]

>>16699943
Based

[Anonymous No.16700360]

>>16699729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rz4ReNv6M8

[Anonymous No.16700415]

>go to bed at the same time and get up at the same time for 90% of the year
>consume caffeine before 10am, exercise daily, and hydrate
>still randomly toss and turn all night long some nights and pass out instantly on others
>sometimes have week long streaks where I can't sleep for hours or wake up every 20 minutes
What do I do? What is causing this?

[Anonymous No.16700487]

>>16693997
READ YOU STUPID FUCK, YOU READ

WE'RE ON THE LITERATURE BOARD FOR FUCK'S SAKE

[Anonymous No.16700501]

>>16692754
just sleep when you feel like sleeping and wake up when you feel like waking up. Return to monkey

[Anonymous No.16700510]

>>16700415
stress, just stop caring about status and other superficial crap that makes you dread another day

[Anonymous No.16700538]

>>16700415

Hormonal fluctuations and stress.

Routine is a good thing but being too slavishly attached to it can backfire.

[Anonymous No.16700543]

>>16700415
>for 90% of the year
thats your problem pal

[Anonymous No.16700571]

>tfw only feel rested if i sleep 10h a night

[Anonymous No.16700969]

I can sleep even when on Adderall after a good 8 hour sleep. I'm luckily not taking it anymore. There is nothing that makes me stay awake when I want to sleep. Something is wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.16701096]

>>16692765

https://guzey.com/books/why-we-sleep/#no-shorter-sleep-does-not-imply-shorter-life-span

debunked Walker is a charlatan

[Anonymous No.16701236]

>>16700969
>he can actually sleep
bliss...

[Anonymous No.16702111]

>>16693670
Totally. He found the formula. Study STEM, sleep 4 hours a night, and you'll be rich like Elon Musk.

[Anonymous No.16702692]

>tfw haven't slept properly in like 5 years.
I don't even know what it feels like to feel refreshed anymore

[Anonymous No.16703091]

>>16697525
In bed by 8 and up by 3

[Anonymous No.16703366]

>>16700415
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.16703590]

>>16697451

If I cross my eyes really hard it looks like the BOOBAS Pepe is looking straight at me.

>>16692754

Jonathan Crary's 24/7 is about sleep w/r/t our non-stop consumerist wage-slave society, it's short but a pretty good read.

[Anonymous No.16703712]

>>16703091
Do you work construction or are you 70 years old?Unless you go to sleep at 8am...

[Anonymous No.16703787]

>>16692754
>Sleep 3 hours a night.
>Develop health problems as a result.
>Die early, which then makes you lose more months than you gained by sleeping 3 hours a night.

[Anonymous No.16703934]

https://vimeo.com/255832397

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[Anonymous No.16704590]

>>16700415
>>consume caffeine before 10am
Don't bother, caffeine is completely worthless.

t. doesn't drink coffee

[Anonymous No.16704686]

Arrange your sleep so that when you wake up you are just coming off of a sleep cycle. Sleep cycles last ~90 minutes so just make the time you sleep a clean multiple of 90, or a bit under. Since you probably don't touch yourself every night, organize your sleep accordingly. You should have a routine for sleep that accounts for masturbating or refraining from it without ruining your sleep. Third, morning routines are not supposed to be slow. They should be fast and efficient. You are creating a basis that the rest of your day is built on, so slack here has a large potential of ruining it. The first thing you should do when you wake up is stand up. That gets you out of bed, and will, at most times, make you stop staying in bed for long periods after you have already woken up. Then shower, since you are not dressed. Then dress fully. Do not half-dress, since you will feel sloppy and as such will not take your day seriously. You should always prepare breakfast beforehand. If you don't, since you have such low energy, you will not want to make anything and will go immediately for trash cereal or snacks that barely fill you up and do not make you feel good. Doing these things will also make you feel less tired throughout the day.

[Anonymous No.16705368]

>>16693717
what?

[Anonymous No.16705443]

>>16701096
Fucking hell, I fell for this book. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.16705754]

>>16703712
I am a 22 year old de facto neet and go to bed at 8pm every day

[Anonymous No.16705920]

>>16703787
>3 hours less

[Anonymous No.16706070]

>tired all day
>stay awake through willpower
>it's finally bed time
>lay down
>can't sleep

god is a nigger

[Anonymous No.16706352]

Remember to take some magnesium glycinate everyone

[Anonymous No.16706396]

>>16706352
Magnesium is brain powder.

[Anonymous No.16706429]

>>16701096
>The studies typically find that people who sleep 7 hours have the highest longevity.
Oh shit, I thought I wasn't getting enough.

[Anonymous No.16706445]

>>16701096
>Here are the World Health Organization’s sleep recommendations:
>>
>The quote is empty because the WHO does not stipulate how much an adult should sleep anywhere. I don’t know where Walker got this information.
Absolutely savage.

[Anonymous No.16706733]

>>16701096
>>16706445

>The health consequences of insufficient sleep have recently been studied by many sleep researchers. Approximately 40% of adults report that daytime sleepiness interferes with their work and social functioning at least a few days each month as a result of insufficient nocturnal sleep. Excessive daytime sleepiness is thus a major public health problem as a consequence of interference with daily activities including cognitive problems, motor vehicle accidents (especially at night), poor job performance and reduced productivity

>In the last decade, experimentally based data were collected on chronic restriction of sleep (by one to four hours at night), accumulating daytime sleepiness and cognitive impairment

>Recent studies, however, show that sleep at least eight hours long is necessary for optimal performance and for the prevention of physiological daytime sleepiness and accumulation of sleep debt.

WHO technical meeting on sleep and
health, page 112
https://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/114101/E84683.pdf

Literally took 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.16706824]

>>16697525
Thanks Solzhenitsyn

[Anonymous No.16706835]

>>16700415
This is exactly me, I've pretty much faced the reality that I'm too stressed to ever get back to the sleep pattern I had as a kid / early teen. Just going to bed stresses me out, I have to hypnotise myself with music or podcasts or something just to calm down enough to sleep. Shit's depressing

[Anonymous No.16706944]

>>16692754
is it ok if I get enough sleep, but I stay awake through the nights and sleep through the days?

[Anonymous No.16707905]

>>16692765
Babyfaced smoothcheeks is nearing 50, maybe there is something to that beauty sleep thing.

[Anonymous No.16708456]

>>16697451