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Let's hope we can have a chill thread about this without the angry mob.
Just talk about any ideas associated with this term, or ask questions if you like.
This is meant as a zone for anyone to talk about anything related to postmodernism/post-structuralism. Just be sincere and don't stir shit for the lolz.

>> No.16684549

>>16684527
William Gaddis is absolute trash. Pynchon for the lowbrow crowd.

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>>16684527
I began reading and it seems very weak so far. His other works I read had some great insights but so far this seems full of banalities. Does it get better? Does it seems full of banalities because what he said was new at the time and is now considered obvious?

>> No.16685797

bump

>> No.16685820

>>16684527
>postmodernism
Fucking literature faggots. Post-structuralism should have a thread, not this fucking shit.

>> No.16685821

I’ve only read The Post Modern condition and Lyotard seems brilliant. What are some other recs?

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>>16685820

>> No.16685922

>>16685820
this. are we discussing the cultural idea of postmodernity or are we discussing poststructuralist theory?

>> No.16685953

What should I read to get into this stuff?

>> No.16686691

>>16685953
I started with Gaddis’ J R and didn’t have problems reading it, so probably that.

>> No.16687030

>>16685953
Highly depends desu. If you want to start with baudrillard you can pretty much read anything by him if I'm not mistaken. As an intro to the postmodern condition I'd recommend fredric Jameson's "postmodernism"

>> No.16687045

What would Baudrillard say about these dubs?

>> No.16687092

Neither dirty valley boys bewildered by glorious actualisation of Trump, nor the obedient reactinary cunts can't see the truth that in this age there is only but one enemy of the so–called people and that is Augmentation; carelessly it carries the jobs of the poor away, giving way for more and more all–encompassing perpetuating logic of Kapital. I can say with assured sincerity that if it comes down to the practice of Augmentation to unfold before our very eyes as the penultimate goddess of people, it will readily rule alongside Kapital hand–in–hand. Think of a perfectly objective cost function—perhaps all too deadly to exist; such that the model of learning itself as of that moment will come only second to computation, the tables turn—in perpetual motion, causing ripples across the pond of perceived reality, or rather the state of the affairs as such. The perfectly computational logic of Augmentation, timely clashing with the hopelessly discursive logic of Kapital. (I can hear the sound of a virtual machine, and I must admit at times it seems like we live in a reality of cashed–in chips.) Later, the very same boys from Palo alto will sing praise to Big Chungus and fantasize of its magnificent scale; the process which for a modern programmer involves an array of fetishes. Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google... Continuity seems so far away now, it seems as though it's a long–forgotten feature of text to be continuous; hyper text is what's deeply seated in control. How we read history is more akin to elaborate dancing in the space of self–referenial critique, attempting to deconstruct itself in pursuit of some apocryphal and unsound notions. The systems of knowledge, discipline, and much of the engineering capability–are heavily concerted to accomodate this condition of text. Have we made Satan when we let this language–form ultimately go collective? Augmentation is its name, and when in tears we called for AI, it answered the call.

>> No.16687998

bumperino

>> No.16688034

>>16687045
Merely a simulacra of dubs. True dubs subsumed in the fantasy of dubs

>> No.16688122

>>16684527
Why did the french pomo guys smoke so much?

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>>16684527
>... postmodernism/post-structuralism...
>... be sincere and don't stir shit...


LA ESQUIZOFRENIA DE EL HIPERMODERNO...

>> No.16688150

>>16688122
Smoking was healthy until 1988.