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Anonymous Fri Oct 30 00:52:42 2020 No.16682931 [Reply] [Original]

This is a question regarding the literary text called the Gospel according to Matthew
Matthew 5:3
>Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
Who are the poor in spirit and why is theirs the kingdom of heaven?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 00:53:45 2020 No.16682936 >>16682931 the humble.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:05:20 2020 No.16682980 it's saying poor people are blessed in spirit, and they truly live lives deserving of heaven

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:07:57 2020 No.16682996 >>16682980 Wrong heretic. >>16682936 got it somewhat right. The poor in spirit are blessed because they know how much they need Jesus

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:10:13 2020 No.16683006 >>16682980 >it's saying poor people are blessed in spirit If that were the case, then why is the "in spirit" not added to any of the other Beatitudes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:25:45 2020 No.16683071 >>16683006 Your reading it wrong. "Blessed are the poor (in spirit) for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:27:18 2020 No.16683078 >>16683071 Again, why isn't the "in spirit" added to any of the other Beatitudes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:30:43 2020 No.16683092 >>16682931 >Who are the poor in spirit Those who have overcome their ego. >why is theirs the kingdom of heaven? The Kingdom of Heaven is the reward for those rare individuals who have managed to overcome their own ego.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 01:50:25 2020 No.16683163 >>16682931 Bad Jews. Samaritans. Righteous gentiles.

Anonymous Fri Oct 30 02:42:58 2020 No.16683322

>>16682936
The mundane interpretation.
>>16682996
Not even really more advanced than above.
>>16683092
Closer but it still falls short.
>>16682931
Its an instruction about how to realise >>16683092
Ask yourself: how does one become poor in spirit? What does spirit mean?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 03:37:43 2020 No.16683467 >>16682931 Spirit as in distilled spirit, or liquor. Those who abstain from alcohol and other earthly pleasures are the ones who truly deserve heaven.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 03:41:57 2020 No.16683478 >>16682931 >>16683322 It means to be fully receptive of the Spirit, you can't be poor of something you do not seek, to be poor in spirit means that nothing is preventing you to be full of it. That you are at the apex of Eros.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 03:44:01 2020 No.16683487 >>16683467 Then why---at the wedding in Cana in John 2---did Jesus turn water into wine? When they ran out of wine, why didn't he instead give everyone a lecture on the dangers of alcohol?

Anonymous Fri Oct 30 03:46:52 2020 No.16683501

>In the beginning was Logos
Logos, as per Heraclitus the One Thing unchanging, consciousness-awareness-bliss, i.e atman i.e the Infinite Son of the Infinite Father, the crowning jewel of Creation, made in the Infinite Father's image and likeness i.e all-perceiving, not because it perceives all, like the father, but because it is a singular point of attention, not sharing omniscience but still sharing the ability to perceive all qualia that the Infinite Father bestows upon him
>and Logos was with God and Logos was God
Atman is a particle of God, if God is all-thought and all-knowing Logos is the focused point of attention that entertains itself in the marvels of God's all-mind
>through him all things were made, without him nothing was made that exists
Whilst it is within God's power to cogitate a Creation without consciousness, a mechanical world deprived of experience, he chose to give his Creations his own power of perception
>In Logos was the light of life of all mankind
>The light blazes through the shadows, and the shadow does not overcome it
Truly a machine world would be a sad dark place, praise be to the Universal Father

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 03:53:20 2020 No.16683521 >>16683487 wine isn't a spirit

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 03:54:42 2020 No.16683523 >>16683521 But it's alcohol

Anonymous Fri Oct 30 04:09:52 2020 No.16683523,1 [INTERNAL]

"
1. happy
2. prosperous
3. well off
4. rich
5. abundant
are the
6. poor
7. meager
of
8. breath/breathing
9. breeze
10. air
11. inspiration
12. character
13. spirit
14. courage
15. arrogance
since of them is
16. kingship/monarchy
17. sovereignty
18. supremacy
19. despotism
20. kingdom
21. domain
of
22. heaven
23. air
24. height of success, glory."

Sounds like a multiple entendre here, which is just another why the New Testament is a work of historical unparalleled genius.
1. Blessed are the humble before Jesus since they will go to heaven - message to the proles
2. Happy are those who can't breath since they have achieved mastery over air - message to the Stoicism LARPers in the bougie
3. Rich are those who deal with the emperor obsequiously, for they will be given their own territory to rule - message to the elites
4. Well off are those who are not arrogant before going into battle, since they will achieve the heights of military glory - based message to Roman soldiers, the real intended audience

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 04:16:36 2020 No.16683574 >>16682931 I’ll be honest with you, I dunno. But learn Hebrew and Aramaic and find out yoursef

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 04:17:17 2020 No.16683577 >>16683523 it's a drink

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 04:18:02 2020 No.16683579 >>16683487 The wine the Greeks drank at that time was dheavily diluted with water so I’d assume the Lords was the same

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 04:18:46 2020 No.16683582 >>16683577 So is alcohol

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 04:51:20 2020 No.16683672 >>16682931 The detached. He's not saying it's about being poor in appearance, but about not being attached to many things, i.e. in spirit owning little.

࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYYIIins Fri Oct 30 05:09:22 2020 No.16683717
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>>16682931

1. THE «POOR IN SPIRIT» IS A FIGURE; IT DOES NOT MEAN: «THOSE WHO LACK SPIRIT», BUT, RATHER: «THOSE WHO ARE FIGURATIVELY "POOR"», SINCE THE WEALTHY ARE NOTIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH SVPERBIA, AND, THE POOR, WITH HVMILITAS, AND IT IS THE HUMBLE WHO ARE GREAT IN GOD.

2. THE PASSAGE MEANS THAT THOSE WHO ARE AKIN TO «THE POOR», IN THAT THEY ARE HUMBLE, ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ONTOLOGICALLY APT FOR, AND WORTHY OF, ENTERING THE DIVINE PARADISE.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 05:14:56 2020 No.16683729 >>16683467 holy fucking shit... this is what happens when you reject tradition and interpret scripture for yourself. FUCK PROTESTANTISM.

>>	Nemo !!GgBWHLRiayD Fri Oct 30 05:38:37 2020 No.16683802 >>16683717 This. Humbleness consists in knowing one's place --where one belongs, and/or where one should be--, in not overreaching oneself; humbleness is hollow; hollowness sustains optimism, and enthusiasm.

Anonymous Fri Oct 30 07:24:51 2020 No.16684065

>>16683071
Aren't pious people rich in spirit? Spiritual poverty implies wretchedness instead of worthiness.
Its probably more accurate to say that the poor are blessed within their inner dimension for their frugality implies God's worth above the material.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 07:31:39 2020 No.16684096 >>16684065 He didn’t come for those who didn’t need help: righteous Jews. He came for those who believe in the father but who are shitcunts: bad Jews, Samaritans, righteous gentiles. If you eat pig or fuck in the temple, you’re out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 08:13:38 2020 No.16684242 >>16683729 It's a fucking joke asswipe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:11:14 2020 No.16684449 to be poor in spirit is to have an empty spiritual wallet said wallet can only accept jesus if it is already empty one must realize they are spiritually bankrupt without the lord if they are to be able to accept Him

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:15:35 2020 No.16684459 >>16682931 It's either referring to Gnostics and other 'spiritual' heretics who would call the righteous hylics, or is referring to the materially poor being more blessed than the rich.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:18:23 2020 No.16684468 >>16684459 also Buddhists, Hindus etc. and similar religions

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:19:30 2020 No.16684472 >>16682931 You're an insufferable faggot and this thread is only barely more of a waste than your conception

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:33:11 2020 No.16684513 File: 70 KB, 446x435, 81142053-11A3-48F3-91EC-EEC593AA0EBA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16682931 SLAVE MORALITY

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:33:15 2020 No.16684514 >>16682931 i think it is explained in the old testament

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:34:55 2020 No.16684524 >>16684459 this Psychics and pneumatics are going to hell. Gnosticism is evil and cope

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:41:31 2020 No.16684551 >>16684513 Post physique, "free man."

Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:48:29 2020 No.16684590

>>16682931
Pretty much this >>16683478. More in depth, it is the kenotic imitation of the Father to beget the Son and to be filled with the Love of the Holy Spirit, it is the kenotic imitation of the Son to receive all creation and be filled with the Glory of His Father.

>>16682996
>>16683092
>>16683717
These are also correct in different degrees.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 09:50:10 2020 No.16684597 >>16683478 Oh forgot to ask you why ''apex of Eros''? Is it because of Lack and Need of or Will toward God?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 10:03:23 2020 No.16684638 >>16684590 >and be filled with the Glory of His Father. Sounds gay

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 11:02:44 2020 No.16684910 >>16682931 Those who know themselves to be wretched morally are the poor in spirit, it is these who seek out Jesus' forgiveness and are rich towards God.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 12:39:38 2020 No.16685403 >>16684638 you

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 14:41:22 2020 No.16686038 Should probably be read "blessed in spirit are the paupers, for theirs is the kingdom of the heavens" considering what he says about the rich entering God's kingdom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 16:04:56 2020 No.16686570 >>16686038 >>16683078

>>	Jesus Fri Oct 30 18:31:42 2020 No.16687349 >>16682931 good question. obviously only strong spiritually guys can achieve samadhi. you sure vatican did not fix it for you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 31 15:10:56 2020 No.16687349,1 >>16683574 The New Testament was not written in Hebrew or Aramaic. Mark was the source of the other gospels and was probably written in Latin originally, although the official story is that the gospels were written in Greek.

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