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I made a bunch of oc after reading Walden, want to share it somewhere
Is it just me or was this book a fucking snoozefest? I expected primarily a philosophical work, the memoir stuff just gets in the way at times and as the book goes on, the philosophy gets more and more scarce. Why would I give a fuck about the exact methods he used to measure the depth of the pond? Why do descriptions of cutting ice go on for ages? I don't know why this work is regarded so highly, even the philosophy is just an inferior version of Kaczynski's or Linkola's

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also feel free to post thoreau-related memes, it seems that good ones are very rare, most are boomer-tier

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2/4

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3/4

>> No.16677940

>>16677879
Haven't read it but a friend did and he could not stop bitching how the book is filled to the brim with philosophy and barely has anything about material work and labor. Funny to see you feel the exact oposite way

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4/4 that's it for oc, but I'll also post some other memes I found

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>>16677940
I think it's a matter of expectations, maybe your friend is an /out/ type and expected something like a survival manual, which this book certainly isn't (he shares only a handful of tips, mostly about food preparation and growing beans). Also, the beginning is the most philosophy-heavy, I'd say the first third has a 80/20 ratio of philosophy to memoir stuff, the second third is 50/50 and the end is 20/80
The work is unique because of this mixing of the mediums, but I don't think it leads to a great leading experience

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this is pretty funny, I was convinced he had it like that because of religious convictions, like the Amish

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I think appropriating Thoreau by anprims is a stretch. Apart from "Civil disobedience", his life philosophy was most similar to a hindu yogi hermit, he mentions hindu phil often enough for it to be considered a major influence

>> No.16678045

Not a good book. Not a good author. He was also a liar he wasn’t “on his own”

>> No.16678055

He describes perfectly the feeling of being in love with a body of water. You just find it boring because you have never experienced it, which is the case with most parts of Thoreau that people find boring. For me, nearly every page was relatable and interesting, except maybe when he described his beans

>> No.16678071

>>16677943
Horrible meme, Thoreau talks extensively of the advantages of ‘savage’ life over civilization. Whoever made this didn’t read Walden

>> No.16678086

>>16678045
He didn't really conceal that he had plenty of help and company. Doesn't mention his mother specifically but admits to regular "dining out" and such

>>16678055
maybe that's true, I live by the sea and like it very much, but not to the point of caring about the minutiae of exactly how the pond freezes over

>>16678071
sure he does, but not to the point of accepting the "savage ways" - he literally says that living like that would be unbecoming for a civilized man, despite that mode of living corresponding exactly to the "bare necessities of life"
>muh Homer

>> No.16678244

>>16678086
His philosophy is about a simple life, not necessarily a life with only the bare necessities. The ‘savage’ would not have access to the great wealth of art and philosophy produced by civilization.

>> No.16678291

>>16678244
I understand that, but still don't know why he considers such things as inherently valuable. It seems a very subjective preference, that "a birds nest is greater architecture then a cathedral", but he scoffs at his neighbors that haven't read the Iliad
He wants to dispense with the whole superstructure of culture which he finds expedient and superfluous, and this would somehow lead to great art and morality (which I'd consider the very products of an advanced culture)

>> No.16678311

>>16678244
The savage does have civilization, and further than that, they do have philosophy and art, though it may not be the size of the wests capabilities.

>> No.16679347

>>16677879
I'm halfway through it and I didn't find it boring. In fact every time I sat down and read it, I would get mad at my urbanoid wageslave condition, which is why I dropped it for the time being.

>> No.16680014

>>16677921
Achilles' Myrmidons are literally 'ant men' --you're aware of this, right anon?

>> No.16680091

>>16677879
The memoir stuff was comfy af and without them the philosophical parts would be meaningless