what would the state of literature be today if germany had won WWII?

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None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 16:50:53 2011 No.1667762 [Reply] [Original]

what would the state of literature be today if germany had won WWII?

>>	Zed#zf41 OP !73VOHXDuLo Wed Mar 30 16:52:16 2011 No.1667771 File: 23 KB, 360x480, a90_nazi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1667762 It would be fukkin dope, yo.

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 16:54:53 2011 No.1667772 File: 160 KB, 667x525, Screenshot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol

>>	Zed !RW2kCRRAXg Wed Mar 30 16:54:53 2011 No.1667773 File: 23 KB, 360x480, a90_nazi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It would be fuckin' dope, yo

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:05:53 2011 No.1667791 The correct answer is "different".

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 17:08:53 2011 No.1667803 >>1667791 better or worse.

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 17:53:53 2011 No.1667873 weird.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:55:53 2011 No.1667874 Instead of Zadie Smiths, Harper Lees and other trash. Gravity's Rainbow and Infinite Jest would be taught in schools.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 17:58:53 2011 No.1667885 >tybrax not saging must be he's the OP

scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 17:59:53 2011 No.1667889

If Germany had won, I imagine literature would be quite a lot better, really..repression, the cult of culture inherent in rising fascism, and even better in the decadent era of fascism..would probably produce some amazing art...I wish they had won, actually..but then again i'm a cryptofa

>>	JadeSally !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 18:00:53 2011 No.1667890 Chuck Palahnuik, and Tao Lin would've been shot a long time ago. And everything would have to go through the propaganda ministry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:04:53 2011 No.1667898 Less Paolo Coehlo, more Jonathan Littell.

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 18:18:53 2011 No.1667921 >>1667885 why would i sage a thread i want to bump?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:27:53 2011 No.1667938 90% of all media would be censored. This is shown, in excess, by Stalin's dictatorship. Anyone who thinks that a totalitarian dictatorship would produce better/more media than a _series_ of independent democratic nations is an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:29:53 2011 No.1667945 >>1667889 when i hear art that's when i reach for my revolver yes, this is a philosophy likely to produce vibrant art also pretty sure you're not a cryptofascist if you're willing to admit it

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:33:53 2011 No.1667949 No Kafka, No Auster, No Chabon, No comic book industry, in fact, forget every gay, jewish, or black, publisher, agent, critic, or writer. Literature would be monitored by the government, no freedom of speech. Not even worth thinking about.

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 18:44:53 2011 No.1667970 >>1667949 >No Kafka are you fucking retarded on so many levels?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:47:53 2011 No.1667976 >>1667970 I think he means that Kafka's works would have been banned

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:48:53 2011 No.1667979 >>1667970 Yeah I'm sure as an outspoken jewish person deeply involved in Yiddish culture, Hitler would have loved to have Kafka around for his socialist views. Oh, wait a minute.

scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 18:48:53 2011 No.1667980

>>1667945
cryptofascists who admit it are even more cryptic..also THATS WHEN I REACH FOR MY REVOLVER THATS WHEN IT ALL GETS BLOWN AWAY...nice..anyway, there was plenty of art in NAZI germany, and lots of art in all repressive nations..for instance, Dostoyevsky..but you know..just so you know...you're mistaken..d

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 18:50:53 2011 No.1667982 >>1667976 didnt stop tao lin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:50:53 2011 No.1667988 >>1667980 well, mission of burma, yeah, but i was referring to the nazi view on art often quoted by goerring.

>>	Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 18:51:53 2011 No.1667989 at least we wouldn't have postcolonialism and other timewasters

scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 18:53:53 2011 No.1668000

>>1667988
still, art will respond to the repression by becoming that much more radical..with today's banality, we have art that is banal..i mean, we all die, we all suffer and i would willingly live under a repressive regime just for the opportunity to resist and create art or real resistance..not this piddling green peace crap but the environment that produced dostoyevsky, camus and others..the environments that produced the surrealists..this is why i think it would be even better had germany won..but on a more practical note..germany would have eventually cleared it's bad image and things would probably resemble exactly what we have today..i was just being a little frivolous with this tired notion of 'what if'

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:53:53 2011 No.1667998 >>1667979 Kafka died in 1924, you know?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:53:53 2011 No.1667999 >>1667989 Seriously, dude? Seriously?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:54:53 2011 No.1668003 >>1667998 Point taken.

>>	Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 18:54:53 2011 No.1668005 >>1667999 >Seriously? have you been here long or what

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 18:55:53 2011 No.1668006 >>1667889 you are worse than steampunks

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:03:53 2011 No.1668032

>>1667938
>>Anyone who thinks that a totalitarian dictatorship would produce better/more media than a _series_ of independent democratic nations is an idiot.

Bulgakov, Pasternak, Babel, Sholokhov, Platonov, Gorky, Akhmatova, Brodsky... Need I go on? And these are just writers.

Living under conditions of censorship can just as easily motivate the creative spirit. All the writers I mentioned lived and thrived (creatively, not personally) under a totalitarian dictatorship.

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:06:53 2011 No.1668046

>>1667949
Sometimes I read the pop culture forum on Stormfront for kicks and one of my favorite "I wonder what they think about..." scavenger hunts was when I searched for comic book threads and found some neo-Nazi dork desperately trying to reconcile his love of superhero comics with his hatred of DER JUDEN. He came up with some theory about how Jack Kirby was half-Aryan(!!) and the Aryan side dominated his nature, which incidentally is also how teenage neo-Nazis justify wanting to bone Jewess bombshell Scarlett Johansson

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:07:53 2011 No.1668048 Insulting, racist and in German.

>>	Zed !RW2kCRRAXg Wed Mar 30 19:12:53 2011 No.1668064 >>1668046 LOL'd Tripfags could never write something this engaging and funny. That is why Anonymous will always be Master Race and tripfags will always be untermench.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:13:53 2011 No.1668068 >>1667945 We'd all be reading Japanese comic books about impossible heroics instead of literature. Wait...

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:26:53 2011 No.1668124

>>1667938
>This is shown, in excess, by Stalin's dictatorship.

Germania and the Soviets are not really comparable. Even in the latter stages of the third reich large sectors of the intelligentsia and art communities were left untouched. They were only bothered if they went in direct contradiction to regime.

The censoring by the Soviets on the other hand was just borderline idiotic at times. They were so absurdly oppressive that they killed their own intellectual development as an empire, which is a major reason why they stagnated and eventually fell apart.

It reminds me of the mentality of common thugs and meathead types who can't comprehend anything that isn't linear and overly blunt, so they destroy it because it threatens/intimidates them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:34:06 2011 No.1668149 No more niggers lovers!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:34:53 2011 No.1668147 >>1668005 i've been here a while and i generally got the impression that you were a smart dude even if a lil annoying + a little too into all the joking / trolling about tripfag superiority or w/e but seriously? postcolonial lit is worthless?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:43:53 2011 No.1668169 >>1668149 Why not?

Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 19:45:53 2011 No.1668175

>>1668147
>postcolonial lit is worthless?

oh don't get me wrong I'm sure it's worth a lot to *whoever it has worth for* i.e. the sick, powerless and deluded, in the same way that someone who has eaten spam all their lives highly values the occasional turkey dinner, in contrast to those of us who eat turkey dinners every day and thus who have much less value in turkey dinners, who highly value the occasional caviar. I see no value in most postcolonial literature because it is composed for the most part of imbecile truths and values, and slave (literal and metaphorical) dialects, same for feminism and queer theory and all these other superifical fast grabs by resentful minorities for power in these highly decadent times.

scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 19:47:53 2011 No.1668179

>>1668175
You see no value in post-colonial literature because you are privileged, white and have a narrow appreciation of the world due to being sheltered by your culture, your family and your own cognitive dissonance...you are like a child who can't understand why their parents worry about the mortgage payment..

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 19:48:53 2011 No.1668185

>>1667938
>Anyone who thinks that a totalitarian dictatorship would produce better/more media than a _series_ of independent democratic nations is an idiot.

The best art is generated under great/extreme environment - not lackadaisical, 'free' nations.

Just the current situation now for example, there is a lot of junk art out there these days which exists for no real reason, except for some sort of bland, over-romanticized, generic concept of "expression".

Good art is a product of people who themselves are the product of great paradigms - this is why there are so many noteworthy writers from the early-mid 20th century. These people lived during times where the very foundation of ideals about politics, society, and reality itself which had been held for centuries and millennia, were being disrupted.

It reminds me of when I was younger and looking at a poster about U.S. military ranks, and I asked 'why are there no 5 star generals anymore' - 'there are none, because there are no great wars'.

mcgregor Wed Mar 30 19:51:53 2011 No.1668189

>>1668185
>there is a lot of junk art out there these days which exists for no real reason

I sort of agree with your overall point, however, I must point out that there's ALWAYS tons of junk art. Even during times of duress, people need low art and high art.
(also, i'm tentatively arguing this, but all art is useless)

Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 19:57:53 2011 No.1668206

>>1668179
>privileged
that's a nice way of saying I am in a certain power relation. There is nothing ethical about this.

>white
this is nothing more than a power relation. There is nothing ethical about this.

>narrow appreciation of the world
Yes, the correct way to appreciate the world happens to be a bit narrow. or at least that's how it seems from the point of view of the idiots

>sheltered by your culture
What the fuck is this supposed to mean? Is an ethiopian "sheltered" by his culture if he doesn't want to buy into american culture or british culture? Man look at all those ignorant Iraqis being sheltered in arabic culture, I'm so glad we're well on the way to getting them out of that.

>your family
Holy shit, I have a family that looks out for me. Just like a whole bunch of Iraqis, Ethiopians, Americans, Britishers, etc. Wow I am so fucking sheltered.

You're throwing all this stupid slave rhetoric at me and you don't even know what underlies it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:05:53 2011 No.1668220 >>1668206 god damn you're the worst tripfag around here

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:06:53 2011 No.1668222 >>1668189 > I must point out that there's ALWAYS tons of junk art. True, but at least in the past you could more easily identify and segregate the low and the high brow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:07:53 2011 No.1668225 why does anyone pay attention to d&e

mcgregor Wed Mar 30 20:10:53 2011 No.1668230

>>1668222
>nice trips

the only reason why you can sort out the high from the low is that we're producing MORE art now than ever. if the victorians had access to the mass printing presses that we have, they'd be churning out more drivel than you could shake a stick at. today's art is no worse nor better than yesterday's art, the only difference is how much we consume

Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 20:11:53 2011 No.1668231

>>1668179
I mean christ almighty, that entire post is essentially
>You don't see the value in being weak because you are strong
And guess what? Of course I don't! Being privileged is strong! Having a family that supports me is strong! All of these things DO contribute to my perspective, which is entirely bodily,(just like every one of the aspects cited), which is the perspective of the STRONG.

>>	mcgregor Wed Mar 30 20:14:53 2011 No.1668236 >>1668231 you can call me dense, but i still don't understand why you think postcolonial literature is worthless? is it because you like caviar and turkey?

>>	Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 20:16:53 2011 No.1668241 File: 13 KB, 400x269, rdjamused.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1668236

scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 20:17:53 2011 No.1668245

>>1668206
>that's a nice way of saying I am in a certain power relation
No I was just pointing out your lack of real experience and therefore ignorance..
>this is nothing more than a power relation.
No, it's your identity..
|>Yes, the correct way to appreciate the world happens to be a bit narrow
haha protestantism is so quaint "the narrow path" and all that..
>Is an ethiopian "sheltered" by his culture
yes. and he would not know the pain of living as a poor undergrad student and having to get coffee from somewhere other than starbucks, now would he?
>slave rhetoric
a nice way to rephrase "slave morality" and a poor attempt at masking your poor emulation of Nietzsche

>>	☿ !Rrxa7zePwI Wed Mar 30 20:19:53 2011 No.1668255 File: 31 KB, 500x375, diaper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >d&e

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 20:22:53 2011 No.1668260 File: 13 KB, 857x93, onionring-still-waiting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1668255 tbh for all your moralfag talk he's actually alot nicer to me than you are.

>>	☿ !Rrxa7zePwI Wed Mar 30 20:27:53 2011 No.1668273 >>1668260 ehmmmm

Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 20:28:53 2011 No.1668278

>>1668245
>lack of real experience
Oh, you mean I haven't had the experience you or other people have had? Because there's no such thing as "real" experience, only experiences one person or the other has had. So basically you think I'm ignorant because I haven't had YOUR experience, or someone else you think I should have. What the fuck makes your experiences so special? What the fuck does getting a botfly maggot in my arm in Balize tell me about anything? What the fuck is a lion missing out on if he doesn't eat grass or taste rabbit? More ideological bullshit, through and through.

>No, it's your identity..
Okay, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Maybe you think identities grow on fucking trees or something, I don't care. The response is going to be half-witted and I'm not going to entertain it.

>haha protestantism is so quaint "the narrow path" and all that..
Nothing to do with what I'm talking about

>and he would not know the pain of living as a poor undergrad student and having to get coffee from somewhere other than starbucks, now would he?
don't waste my time with rhetorical questions I've already addressed. He wouldn't know what it is to be strong. I don't know what it is to be weak, nor would I want to know.

>a nice way to rephrase "slave morality"
No, because such a term is too general for how I want to apply it, hence my use of the term 'slave rhetoric'

scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 20:34:53 2011 No.1668296

>>1668278
>Nothing to do with what I'm talking about
actually it has *everything* to do with what you are talking about, it explains so much! you just can't bear to admit that you are thinking like a good protestant with your "narrow way"..you jesus freak.
>experience
I of course was referring to a shared experience of oppression or perhaps specifically the experience of those who write post-colonial fiction and those who it is written for..i don't pretend to fully appreciate the genre (and honestly neo-libs who do kind of make me sick) but i can appreciate that they can appreciate it, you dig white boy?
>I don't know what it is to be weak, nor would I want to know.
just wait until you don't have everything handed to you (maybe it will never happen, who knows?)
>'slave rhetoric'
slaves have no rhetoric, hence they are slaves

mcgregor Wed Mar 30 20:35:53 2011 No.1668298

>>1668278
>So basically you think I'm ignorant because I haven't had YOUR experience, or someone else you think I should have.

isn't that sort of the point when it comes to reading, to try and experience someone else's life? like, i read some postcolonial stuff because i'm interested in how "the other" lived. never for a second do i think it's objective truth or a privileged frame of reference. but i read it because i want to get a taste of how it is somewhere else

Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 20:39:53 2011 No.1668308

>>1668296
>actually it has *everything* to do with what you are talking about, it explains so much! you just can't bear to admit that you are thinking like a good protestant with your "narrow way"..you jesus freak.
Don't waste my fucking time. Your inability to see a narrow viewpoint as indicative of anything other than protestantism is not my problem.

>shared experience
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>oppression
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>just wait until you don't have everything handed to you
"the meek shall inherit the earth" bullshit

>slaves have no rhetoric, hence they are slaves
more mouthfarting

Keep saying stupid shit bro, I think I will just laugh at the dumb, barely coherent crap that is coming out of your mouth

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:44:53 2011 No.1668318

>>1668308
Why you cussing so much bro? Is it cuz u mad? quite obviously..and blanket denial of any negative experience of power is really funny because you are on 4chan and not part of a synarchic shadow government controlling all policy or even a cop beating up a homeless person or even a boy dominating his lover or ANYTHING ...you're veneration of power is fucking stockholm syndrome..sublimation of resignation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:46:53 2011 No.1668327 >>1668318 I guess when you say it like that, it's a shortcut to thinking.

Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 20:48:53 2011 No.1668335

>>1668298
>isn't that sort of the point when it comes to reading, to try and experience someone else's life?
Even if it was, why would I want to try to experience a shitty life? What could possibly make me want to experience the inferior sensations and delusions that constitute an inferior being. I don't want to know what's like to be an earthworm any more than I want to know what it's like to be the human equivalent of an earthworm. A lion doesn't want a deer's perspective, and I don't want an inferior's perspective.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:51:53 2011 No.1668343 >>1668335 It's funny you say that these people are inferior, because they certainly aren't on the internet bitching about you and your perspective..you mean nothing to them..they aren't aware of you..

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 20:56:53 2011 No.1668357 >>1668343 HEY. HEY. HEY. SHUT THE FUCK UP, DUDE.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:00:53 2011 No.1668362 >>1668343 >bitch over the internet about internet bitching You've won this one, man

>>	scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 21:01:13 2011 No.1668365 >>1668362 completely miss the point, garnish with sage >ohwow.jpg

>>	scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 21:02:53 2011 No.1668367 >>1668362 How bout these nuts in your mouth?!

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:06:53 2011 No.1668375

My personal theory is that most people working in the liberal arts only excel when they are working against the system.

If the Third Reich had won WW2 then I suspect we would have seen some truly great subversive literature far removed from its steady decline in the past sixty years.

>>	Deep&Edgy !pSkjEcB9sQ Wed Mar 30 21:10:53 2011 No.1668379 File: 47 KB, 320x480, armchair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1668255 >chandlerbing

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:11:53 2011 No.1668381 >>1668375 But "we" would be a very small few because publication would be completely underground.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:12:53 2011 No.1668384 >>1668335 >inferior being Fuck. Really? Is D&E actually so arrogant and self absorbed as to place himself on a pedestal such as this? I really want to know, what warrants that kind of thinking?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:14:53 2011 No.1668392 >>1668384 as a fellow resident of the ivory tower, I completely support his position

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:14:53 2011 No.1668388 >>1668384 Asperger syndrome. The way he types and his obsession with inane topics makes it obvious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:15:53 2011 No.1668394 >>1668230 > today's art is no worse nor better than yesterday's art, the only difference is how much we consume I disagree, and I would say you have low standards if you cannot discern any difference in quality.

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 21:15:53 2011 No.1668395 ok the latest round is sort of boring, can someone greentext d&e again instead of throwing lame insults about?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:16:53 2011 No.1668396 >>1668392 You have to do better than that, though. Unless you can back up the statement with some sound reasoning, its just smoke.

>>	scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 21:16:53 2011 No.1668399 >>1668395 It's like shouting into a cavernous rectum

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 21:18:53 2011 No.1668405 >>1668399 i dunno i think he was kind of winning here then some anonymous posting starting samefagging insults.

Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:24:53 2011 No.1668412

>>1668375

No. You see, the Nazis weren't just a really heavy version of the Republicans. When they found a book they didn't like, they burned it. So what would happen is, you would have nothing but sub-literature on happy, uplifting themes. The history of literature would equally be rewritten - you wouldn't get to draw inspiration from anything that wasn't ideologically approved.

mcgregor Wed Mar 30 21:24:53 2011 No.1668414

>>1668394

i never said that i can't make qualitative judgments on art. my argument is that the art we consume today is neither better nor worse than the art of the old timey.

what part do you disagree with? do you think that the art created now is inferior to the art of old? if that's your position, then i disagree. because all qualities of art are being made in larger amounts, then therefore, there is more good art, just as there is more bad art and everything in between along the spectrum. the only difference between today and before is that there's more

>>	scout !!1wBNr3mLJL+ Wed Mar 30 21:24:53 2011 No.1668415 >>1668405 If by "winning" you mean affecting superiority, then yeah,, that's pretty much the definition of the word in light of charlie sheen :/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:25:53 2011 No.1668419 >>1668335 You're a 4chan tripfag. You have no inferiors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:26:53 2011 No.1668420 >>1668381 >But "we" would be a very small few because publication would be completely underground. And why would that be a negative even if you personally were part of that few?

>>	mcgregor Wed Mar 30 21:26:53 2011 No.1668421 i don't know why my grammar in that post is so horrendous. apologies

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:29:53 2011 No.1668427 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 >>1668412 /thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:29:53 2011 No.1668428 Why are people in this thread making their evaluations as if nazi germany took over the entire world? Do you not think literature would still be getting published outside of the sphere of direct nazi influence?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:29:53 2011 No.1668431 >>1668427 fuck off moron

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:30:48 2011 No.1668434 File: 39 KB, 324x500, 703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 30 21:36:53 2011 No.1668454 All quiet on the western front was an excellent book, in my view the best between the 1900s and the 1930s. It was banned in the Third Reich.

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 21:43:53 2011 No.1668476 >3 nazi threads on frontpage lol'd again.

>>	Fabulous !!GXZe+d0RTva Wed Mar 30 21:47:53 2011 No.1668487 File: 7 KB, 259x194, BG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >80 posts and 6 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view. he'll never let go of this

>>	None !WvWWh.l.CE Wed Mar 30 21:48:53 2011 No.1668493 >>1668487 i dont get it...

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