ITT: Comfy Novels

[Anonymous No.16644002]

[Anonymous No.16644037]

Arsène Lupin, Gentleman Burglar

[Anonymous No.16644101]

>>16644002
3 musketeers

[Anonymous No.16644566]

The Book of Sand by Borges, Dubliners

[Anonymous No.16644608]

>>16644002
definitely Marcovaldo

[Anonymous No.16644609]

[Anonymous No.16644726]

>>16644002

[Anonymous No.16644784]

>>16644002
The Terror by Dan Simmons. It's so icy bleak and frostbitten that once I put the book down and look around my environment I immediately realise that I'm living in extreme comfort by comparison.

The same for The Road.

[Anonymous No.16644793]

>>16644002
The Swiss Family Robinson

[Anonymous No.16644802]

>>16644726
Definitely this. Tolkien was a neo-Romantic, some of his environmental descriptions are beautiful.

[Anonymous No.16644814]

Swann's Way nearly put me to sleep in a good way

[Anonymous No.16644846]

Snow Country a best

[Anonymous No.16644906]

>>16644101
This. I read this book every Christmas. Just remember to drink rum and eat gingerbread for extra comfyness

[Anonymous No.16645333]

some others would be Don Quixote, good soldier svek

[Anonymous No.16645334]

>>16644002
Kafka (I recommend America) and Dino Buzzati (short stories or Tartar Steppe)

[Anonymous No.16645394]

>>16645334
They are the exact opposite of comfy

[Anonymous No.16645416]

>>16645394
Really? That's weird, I get a sense of comfiness reading them. Maybe you're held back by the anxiety they convey?

[Anonymous No.16645499]

War and Peace

[Anonymous No.16645523]

I remember finding Modiano's Out of the dark very comfy.

[Anonymous No.16645537]

I find the sea of fertility very comforting. It's an archly romantic vision--which I mostly disagree with-- but I find the characters put me somewhat at peace. Someone may disagree in the (ugly) caricatures of some people and the distinction the protagonists carry in them, but the former is pretty funny, and without the latter I wouldn't be convinced tjat they were real. Its also nobody opens themselves to me, I never open myself. it dates my desire for connection though.

[Anonymous No.16645547]

>>16645333
i just had 4 day coom/cope depression marathon and im fully empty, will these books fill me with a lust for life if i start reading again tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.16645550]

>>16645537
*destruction not distinction

[Anonymous No.16645553]

James Joyce - The Dead

comfy snowfall

[Anonymous No.16645570]

>>16645523
>Modiano
His work is extremely comfy.

[Anonymous No.16645747]

Wuthering Heights on a stormy night is always good, have a lit candle for extra autism.

[Anonymous No.16646280]

>>16645499
The winter and christmas scenes with Nikolai and Natasha is top tier comfy

Tortilla Flat is very summer comfy

[Anonymous No.16646291]

>>16645416
Yes, anxiety and existential dread is not comfy for me

[Anonymous No.16646298]

>>16645333
>The Politics of Friendship
I know it's not a novel but is that one of Derrida's less difficult works?

[Anonymous No.16646390]

>>16644002
Anything by Murakami. Anne Karenina was pretty cozy too.

[Anonymous No.16646472]

[Anonymous No.16646779]

>>16644609
i love love loved this book

[Anonymous No.16646802]

Skylark
The Dog of the South
Blandings Novels by Wodehouse
Dandelion Wine

[Anonymous No.16646823]

>>16646280
War and Peace has so many cozy sections, but I wouldn't say the novel as a whole is cozy.

[Anonymous No.16646826]

Anything from In search of lost time

[Anonymous No.16646827]

this and sportsman's sketches

[Anonymous No.16646879]

>>16645553
Yes, especially the dead. But I'd argue the entire book is /comfy/. Just beautiful melancholy settings of the lives of simple people in Dublin.

[Anonymous No.16647113]

Moby Dick

[Anonymous No.16647142]

jane eyre, all quiet, east of eden, and wuthering heights are my cold day cozy favorites

[Anonymous No.16647162]

>>16644101
I thought Monte Christo was comfier, but maybe thats just me.

[Anonymous No.16647566]

>>16646472
Very hard to keep track of all the names, and I'm eastern european

[Anonymous No.16647772]

>>16645416
Lmao this is like riding on a roller coaster or swimming in ice cold water, for comfort. It can be exhilarating...but comfortable?

[Anonymous No.16647792]

>>16646827
I found it hard to walk comfortably after reading the part where the guy gets feet cut open and has to walk on his ankles

[Anonymous No.16647801]

>>16647142
How is All Quiet on the Western Front "cozy?"

[Anonymous No.16647821]

>>16647801
No, it is a bit rough and too much descriptive

[Anonymous No.16648827]

Watership Down.
The Peregrine
Wind in the Willows

[Anonymous No.16648877]

>>16648827
Fucking based.

[Anonymous No.16648885]

>>16645416
How tf do you define and experience comfy?

[Anonymous No.16648894]

Anything by Tove Jansson
The secret garden
The compleat angler (not a novel but who cares)

[Anonymous No.16648903]

>>16646472
The greatest comfy book ever.

[Anonymous No.16648919]

Magic Mountain.
Specifically after ~200 pages.

[Anonymous No.16649555]

>>16644609
>>16646779
Try McCarthy's Suttree. It reads like a more twisted version of this.

[Anonymous No.16649565]

>>16645547
Yeah, start with leaves of grass IMO & every time you want to put it down or think "this is dumb" just perservere

[Anonymous No.16649615]

>>16646280
Those winter and christmas scenes I think are my favourite in any book - Tolstoy is able to convey the magic of the season so well

[Anonymous No.16649627]

>>16645416
Oh yea, definitely. Drogo roping is peak comfy.

[Anonymous No.16649632]

>>16644002
The Gate. It ends with the protagonist having a chat with his wife while trimming his fingernails.

[Anonymous No.16649650]

[Anonymous No.16649659]

>>16646827
That story in Sportsman’s Sketches where he gets lost in the dark and comes upon a bunch of peasant kids sitting around a campfire while they take the village’s horses to pasture overnight was maximum comfy. Nothing really happens. The kids tell each other ghost story. The hunter just listens to them and rests by the campfire. The Bezuin (Sp?) Meadow or something like that is the name of the story.

[Anonymous No.16649666]

>>16645553
>>16646879

The Christmas Dinner Scene in A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man was pretty comfy too. Also that scene where he’s sick at school and gets to stay in bed all day

[Anonymous No.16649670]

>>16644002
Oblomov, it's like reading my diary desu

[Anonymous No.16649693]

The Buried Giant

[Anonymous No.16649712]

>>16649659
That’s one of my favorite short stories of all time.It seems like Turgenev is finally getting some respect lately on lit

[Anonymous No.16649723]

>>16644002
Fathers and Sons
Nine Stories of Salinger
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
The Old Man and the Sea
My First Summer in the Sierra
A Moveable Feast
Dylan Thomas
Tennyson

[Anonymous No.16649724]

Alot of fantasy books are comfy along with the russian greats.

[Anonymous No.16649764]

>>16647772
>>16648885
>how do you define comfy?
Idk, since I don't speak a gay language there is not a corresponding concept for "comfy" in my culture. I guess it is a feeling of safety and cosiness while something unpleasant happens outside your comfort zone, like a storm, a plague, or the simple vision of a dark impenetrable forest. Basically a shallower version of the Romantics' sublime, readapted for our effeminate times. If this is "comfy", and it is, then Kafka or Buzzati have many scenes that can convey that feel. I'm thinking about the Seven Messengers or the opening sequence of America, not to mention a lot of parts of The Castle.

[Anonymous No.16649774]

>>16649693
read this for school and i agree

[Anonymous No.16649793]

>>16647801
The contrast between the awfulness of war and the soldiers looking for comfort anywhere makes the comfort they find feel more significant by contrast

[Anonymous No.16649804]

>>16644002
Any PG Wodehouse Jeeves
The Secret History is fairly comfy
>>16644037
Is it good? Any collections I should try?

[Anonymous No.16649811]

>>16648919
The first 200 pages are peak comfy aswell.

[Anonymous No.16649815]

>>16645334
I just started reading America. The Castle is also very good by Kafka.

[Anonymous No.16649821]

>>16649793
This. It is the contrast between your own feeling as you read and the uncomfortable atmosphere of the book that makes the "comfy". Kafka and Buzzati are comfy for this reason.

[Anonymous No.16649836]

>>16649815
I absolutely love America, I find it strange that is so underrated.

[Anonymous No.16649855]

>>16649836
I honestly think a lot of Kafka's work is underrated. Nearly everyone has heard of his name and everyone knows what it's like for a situation to be "kafaesque", but other than that most people haven't read Kafka beyond Metamorphosis.
That is in part Kafka's own fault, as he has so much unfinished works with differing endings.

[Anonymous No.16649865]

>>16649855
I think they've at least read The Trial as well, that and Metamorphosis are his most famous works.

[Anonymous No.16649869]

Peak comfy. Weird how it doesn't that place all that long ago but it still feels like an relic of an bygone age

[Anonymous No.16649877]

>>16649804
The one I mentioned and Confessions of Arsene Lupin are collections of short stories, and are the best way to get into the series. Something like a delicious appetizer before getting into bigger and more dramatic adventures.

[Anonymous No.16649884]

Moby Dick
War & Peace
A Christmas Carol

[Anonymous No.16649891]

>>16649877
Will give it a try, thanks.

[Anonymous No.16649892]

>>16649855
Good point, unfortunately a lot of the authors that can fall under the label "literature of disquiet" were like that. Pessoa is the quintessential example, but there are others.

[Anonymous No.16649905]

>>16649884
The based comfy trinity

[Anonymous No.16649915]

>>16649865
True, I forgot about The Trial, that is definitely something most who know about Kafka have read.
>>16649892
I will take what you say at face value; I've yet to read Pessoa and others. In general it is hard for people to get into literature that has very idiosyncratic marks of the author, whether it be the prose, the theme, the plot, etc.

[Anonymous No.16649916]

The Bay of Noon by Shirley Hazzard.

Equal parts melancholy and comfy, perfect for autumn. Hazzard's prose is excellent and her descriptions of Naples are gorgeous. Recommend highly.

[Anonymous No.16649958]

>>16649915
>I will take what you say at face value; I've yet to read Pessoa and others
I must point out that Pessoa's books have nothing to do with Kafka's, the common trait was that they were both tormented by a sense of disquiet, and this results in a sort of inability to create well polished and self-contained novels. This is also evident in Tommaso Landolfi, another author who wrote unsettling and weird fairy-like tales.
>In general it is hard for people to get into literature that has very idiosyncratic marks of the author
For me it's the opposite, I love that kind of literature

[Anonymous No.16649971]

The Magic Mountain
Rings of Saturn
A lot of Hemingway(especially Nick Adams stories)
Montaigne’s Essays
Haruki Murakami
Walden
Lonesome Dove
A Sportsman’s Sketches
Kokoro
Huckleberry Finn
W&P
One Hundred Years of Solitude

[Anonymous No.16650004]

for me, it's wind, sand and stars. nothing quite like pre-ww2 long haul air mail flights over the endless desert expanse at night.

[Anonymous No.16650084]

This is the comfiest book I've read recently

[Anonymous No.16650332]

>>16644002
Bridge on the Drina by Evo Andric
His descriptions of life in the town and the evolution of its culture and landscape is just so comforting to me.

[Anonymous No.16650412]

>>16650084
how does it compare to spring snow?

[Anonymous No.16650429]

>>16649971
Kek, then everything is comfy.
Go back kid

[Anonymous No.16650630]

>>16649764
The opening scene to Amerika, where he's getting off a crowded boat and he forgets his luggage? That's comfy?

What's your native language that it lacks the word for comfortable? lol
I'm guessing Russian?

[Anonymous No.16650654]

[Anonymous No.16650662]

>>16649764
Comfy is short for comfortable.Kafka and Buzatti have overwhelming themes of anxiety and dread that override any “cozy” scenes.Your mistaking minor reprieve in bureaucratic nightmares with sitting by a fire, wrapped in a blanket on a cold night.

[Anonymous No.16650669]

>>16650429
>there are over 1 million books and less than 10 of them are comfy

Cringe

[Anonymous No.16650713]

>>16649712
It's about damn time

[Anonymous No.16650739]

>>16644101
>>16644906
Is there any bromance in it??

[Anonymous No.16650839]

>>16650004
Thank you for recommending this. I've read scarcely 30 pages and this is already one of the most jovial and cozy books I've read.

[Anonymous No.16650864]

>>16650713
I’d prefer he stays under the radar.Because he is underrated and not popular among “normies”, he is ripe to become a meme on lit.Then contrarians will bash him

[Anonymous No.16650898]

>>16650864
Are you talking about Turgenev? He's one of the most famous Russian authors of all time, and far from under the radar.

[Anonymous No.16650928]

>>16650630
I guess it's a matter of subjectivity, anon. Some people ITT agree that Tolstoy or fucking Murakami are comfy, for me they aren't even remotely. But I don't argue with them for such an irrelevant question.

>>16650662
>minor reprieve in bureaucratic nightmares
That's not how I define Kafka or Buzzati's literature.
>sitting by a fire, wrapped in a blanket on a cold night
That's not how I define comfy. Maybe your gay softness misleads your literary sensibility, have you considered this chance?

[Anonymous No.16650941]

>>16650412
haven't read it. this is actually the first mishima book I read

[Anonymous No.16650943]

>>16650928
>taking comfort in a lull in action or a daily routine is "gay softness"
You are an error.

[Anonymous No.16650964]

>>16650898
Yeah, I agree among people who like literature.Most people know Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Chekhov but not Turgenev.Even on here he is far overshadowed by the”big 2” Russian authors

[Anonymous No.16650977]

>>16650928
You are defining it wrongly and differently from everyone else then.Don’t get all prissy when you’re called out

[Anonymous No.16650987]

This discussion on Kafka and whether he's comfy or not is a reminder that even though we all use "comfy" on here some of us have different perceptions for it. Here's what I think is comfy, I'd like if others would say if they share the view or not, e.g. if my description fits theirs.
>people eating at a table (especially if it's a dinner) and having a conversation
>a peaceful social situation while there's night outside
>reminiscence through a story told by a narrator and other people listening or just told to the reader of the book; the story can even be something that's not comfy e.g. a war story
These are some associations that I have when I hear "comfy", which is why as examples of a comfy book I'd name something like The Pickwick Papers. I definitely can't agree with that anon that Kafka is comfy. It's not that I find his works constantly unsettling, it's just that I don't see any element of comfiness to it.

[Anonymous No.16651023]

>>16650943
I'm not an error, I'm just slightly critic towards the concept of "comfy" that is so thoughtlessly widespread nowadays. Have you ever considered its substantial emptiness? What would a great author of the past think about our obsession with "comfy" stuff? Wouldn't he think that all this laziness and escapism is quite shallow, quite effeminate or childish? What does it have to do with action, power, spiritual ardor or psychic strenght?

[Anonymous No.16651034]

>>16650977
If you and everyone else think that "comfy" is the picture OP posted then I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm simply saying that your conception is limited and dull.

[Anonymous No.16651047]

>>16650429
>Go back kid
Holy fuck, dude.

[Anonymous No.16651053]

>>16651034
>get mad when everyone says your definition is wrong
>argue with examples that are opposite of what the word means
>my problem is with the word

You’ve got to be trolling

[Anonymous No.16651062]

>>16651023
Do you think the Greek warriors never slept?
Do you think they took no joy from bread, olives, and wine? From the affections of their lovers?
Do you think the tribesmen of old Gaul did not treasure nights clad in furs, exchanging stories around a roaring fire?
Man has been comfy since his creation, and he will be comfy until his perdition.

[Anonymous No.16651069]

>>16650987
I'm the anon who recommended Kafka and Buzzati, and I agree with your definitions of comfy. They're nice. However I feel like I have to repeat one thing: the feeling of "comfiness" (what a dumb word btw) is not always INTERNAL or intrinsic to the book, sometimes it can arise in the reader as a result of a contrast between you – sitting in a comfy situation – and the content of the book. There was an anon who defined All Quiet On The Western Front as comfy, and he's not necessarily wrong if you consider what I've said.

[Anonymous No.16651071]

>>16650987
There is a general consensus on what is comfortable.I agree it’s all relative though.To argue that Kafka, who is widely known as unsettling, is comfy is just blatant contrarianism though

[Anonymous No.16651073]

>>16651053
Sorry, I'm too smart for you.

>>16651062
Wow, that sounds gay anon.

[Anonymous No.16651082]

>>16651073
>Sorry, I'm too smart for you.
you browse /lit/, retard

[Anonymous No.16651085]

>>16651071
Re-read The Castle and Amerika. If you can't feel how incredibly comfy are certain scenes beyond the sense of uneasiness you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.16651090]

>>16651073
Your writing style is comparable to the speaking style of a man attempting to talk his way around the three penises in his mouth.
I can only assume that you are also doing this, given your being this much of a whiny little fag on the internet.

[Anonymous No.16651099]

>>16651082
Well played, my man.

>>16651090
>Your writing style is comparable to the speaking style of a man attempting to talk his way around the three penises in his mouth.
Wow, no one ever cared this much about defining my English, so I'm honoured. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.16651102]

>>16651069
>sometimes it can arise in the reader as a result of a contrast between you – sitting in a comfy situation – and the content of the book
I agree at least partially, since narrating a story to a group of people while you're dining can be comfy no matter the content of the story, but I can't agree with your definition entirely otherwise almost every book would be comfy. As to your complaint (more specifically "Wouldn't he think that all this laziness and escapism is quite shallow, quite effeminate or childish?"), comfiness does imply laziness and also a kind of escapism, although not one as high as e.g indulging in an eating binge. Comfiness is opposed to action, hard work, danger and so on. I do not think, however, that it's effeminate or childish. It can be a sign of weakness if overdone, but everyone could and should be comfy at certain times (not always but say, once a week or something, and as far as something like books go I don't see the problem with reading such stuff daily as long as you don't spend 5+ hours or something).

>>16651071
What's the general consensus on what is comfortable? Books on >>16645333 have a different kind of comfy between them, some aren't even comfy (but it's not like the author of the chart named them such, as the title says "Blooming, Loving, Life-Affirming", which isn't synonymous with "comfy").

[Anonymous No.16651113]

>>16651102
Oh, also what >>16651062 said, although I don't think sleeping is a comfy activity, maybe the period before you fall asleep (especially if you're tired). The tribesmen around the fire example is perfect, though. For me, comfiness is maybe definited the most with the combination of safety, tasty food to eat and an activity either in solitude (reading specific works, for example) or social situations in which you have a nice chat with people, especially if you exchange stories.

[Anonymous No.16651160]

>>16650864
Maybe that's the reason he stays under the radar, he's not as "memeable."

[Anonymous No.16651200]

>>16651102
Thank you for your well-thought reply, I have to agree with it. However I still can't make my peace with the fact that people in the internet age seem to be so obsessed with comfiness, like it was an addiction. Youtube records millions and millions of views for every stupid piece of garbage that is slightly "comfy": ASMRs, atmospheric ambience, escapist music, dungeon synth, fantasy stuff, etc. Not to mention Tumblr and all those trends that now are called "aesthetics". It seems like people don't do anything else than this kind of lazy activity (but I would rather call it passivity). This year the phenomenon even exploded thanks to the house confinement due to the goddamn virus. People should be angry and instead we're full of dumbasses who approve the measures because "it's comfy". Honestly I'm tired of all this nerdy bullshit, at this point I would prefer to walk outside and do something cool rather than covering my knees with a blanket in front of a fire every night. As you said, everyone should be comfy at certain times, but not all the time.

Getting back to literature, my point is that comfy doesn't have to be ONLY that feeling that everyone knows, it can also be different things. Certain scenes of unsettling and anxiety-drenched situations can make for a perfect comfy reading session, especially in the month of Halloween.

[Anonymous No.16651206]

You guys need to read more than just old classics if you want to find true comfy.

[Anonymous No.16651213]

>>16651113
>For me, comfiness is maybe definited the most with the combination of safety, tasty food to eat and an activity either in solitude (reading specific works, for example) or social situations in which you have a nice chat with people, especially if you exchange stories.
I'm cool with it, but books that depict such situations are not necessarily comfy.

[Anonymous No.16651219]

Pnin

[Anonymous No.16651246]

>>16644609
wanna shake those messicans by the ears

[Anonymous No.16651257]

>>16651200
>Youtube records millions and millions of views for every stupid piece of garbage that is slightly "comfy": ASMRs, atmospheric ambience, escapist music, dungeon synth, fantasy stuff, etc.
I don't consider those to be comfy, although listening to specific music genres can be comfy, at least if it's paired up with the right situation (e.g. listening to some classical music or dungeon synth before sleeping).
>Not to mention Tumblr and all those trends that now are called "aesthetics"
This comes out of left field, why do you associate this with the concept of comfy?
>It seems like people don't do anything else than this kind of lazy activity (but I would rather call it passivity)
You're overreacting, certainly there's more people who are active in a sense that they have social lives, do their jobs etc. - they don't spend their entire days being comfy or anything, I doubt your average normie even thinks of that concept (even if he, nonetheless, has a comfy time of his own).
>This year the phenomenon even exploded thanks to the house confinement due to the goddamn virus.
I agree, in a sense that economy took a large hit,. Also, you can't have a comfy time forever, there needs to be a contrast (a tough situation, especially since you can narrate it to people afterwards, while you're sitting and socializing) and also work to provide for living, since if we were all comfy all day how would food be produced etc.?
>People should be angry and instead we're full of dumbasses who approve the measures because "it's comfy".
This sounds like you took your complaints about the covid measures and integrated them into this talk. I don't see how it's connected. People who connect the measures to conspiracy theories make way more sense than you - how is there such a high amount of people who want to be comfy so often? Hell, normies which complain about the measures don't even think about the concept of comfy, as I said above, and they're certainly in the majority.
>Honestly I'm tired of all this nerdy bullshit, at this point I would prefer to walk outside and do something cool rather than covering my knees with a blanket in front of a fire every night.
Do that, then, unless the covid measures are preventing you from going outside. Are you in a quarantine or something?
>Certain scenes of unsettling and anxiety-drenched situations can make for a perfect comfy reading session, especially in the month of Halloween.
Still can't agree with this, and I don't think your argumentation was very good. Again, I can agree with comfiness coming from a contrast (e.g. something narrating a war story to a group of people at dinner), but that's about it. The comfy of reading at halloween comes from that contrast as well, but it's a higher type of contrast since you're contrasting your own safety with the danger of people whose story you are reading, but again, if that's your criteria then there's almost no book that isn't comfy.

[Anonymous No.16651262]

Retards over thinking “comfortable” ITT.Comfy usually is used to describe cozy, bland every day activities that bring inner and outer peace

[Anonymous No.16651263]

>>16649764
Where are you from, anon?
I'm Norwegian and our word "hygge/hyggelig" is better than comfy imo

[Anonymous No.16651268]

>>16651023
I remember when i was a teenager and discovered Nietzsche and thought like this.

[Anonymous No.16651272]

Nothing will ever surpass the first part of the Portrait of the artist. He, as a child, lying in bed as the hearthstone projects images on the wall is peak comfy.

[Anonymous No.16651282]

>>16651272
this. Portrait as a whole is comfy but the early chapters are unbeatable

[Anonymous No.16651291]

>>16650739
we need a bromance thread brother

[Anonymous No.16651296]

>>16651263
I'm Italian, the word (confortevole) is basically the same, since the English comfortable derives from the Latin "confortare" (literally "to make strong"), like our "confortevole". However comfy is not the same as comfortable, and even if we have "confortevole" we don't have a corresponding word for comfy. When we are in front of a fire drinking a hot infusion we simply say "Come si sta bene qui". That's our periphrasis to express our feeling of comfiness.

I knew "hygge/hyggelig" and I think it's cute and widely superior to comfy :3

[Anonymous No.16651298]

Thomas Mann, especially Buddenbrooks and The Magic Mountain

[Anonymous No.16651319]

>>16651296
italian is a beautiful language

[Anonymous No.16651359]

>>16647162
I've never read The Three Musketeers, but Count of Monte Cristo was very comfy indeed

[Anonymous No.16651396]

>>16651296
the 4chan use of comfy is idiosyncratic, never heard a single person use it that way irl.

[Anonymous No.16651420]

>>16651257
>This comes out of left field, why do you associate this with the concept of comfy?
Lol just think about "dark academia", if that aesthetic isn't comfy then I have to reiterate what I previously said: your concept of "comfy" is limited and dull. Believing that the only possible definition of comfiness is Pepe with a blanket and the rain outside seems so retarded to me.
>This sounds like you took your complaints about the covid measures and integrated them into this talk. I don't see how it's connected. People who connect the measures to conspiracy theories make way more sense than you - how is there such a high amount of people who want to be comfy so often? Hell, normies which complain about the measures don't even think about the concept of comfy, as I said above, and they're certainly in the majority.
I can assure you, since I know them IRL, that there are people who approve the house arrest not because they're scared by the virus but because they're lazy fucks who love to read and watch TV series on the sofa all day. This is how they would throw their own lives away if they hadn't to work, and I hate that kind of people. And before you ask, yes, I'm convinced that all of this is strictly related to the obsession with comfiness.
>if that's your criteria then there's almost no book that isn't comfy
I could tell you the same. If your criteria for defining comfiness is people eating at a table and having conversation then basically every novel existing has comfy parts. In fact, a lot of people ITT suggested 19th century realist novels – which, for me, are everything but comfy. Not because I dislike them, but because I don't feel any fucking comfiness in them. A tale of ordinary life, although it takes place two centuries ago, is not comfy. LOTR is comfy, Gormenghast is comfy, Magic Mountain is comfy, on those I can agree, but fucking Joyce? Jane Eyre? C'mon, let's not be retarded.

[Anonymous No.16651438]

>>16651420
>Gormenghast
not this faggot again

[Anonymous No.16651455]

>>16651438
Think what you want, faggot, it's a great book either way.

[Anonymous No.16651458]

>>16651420
>Joyce
joyce is extremely comfy, especially his early work

[Anonymous No.16651474]

>>16651455
you know anon, I just read the amazon description and it seems like my type of book. i may give it a go

[Anonymous No.16651483]

>>16651474
Read the sample beforehand, the writing is very not for everyone.

[Anonymous No.16651485]

>>16651458
I've heard this opinion a lot on here, but I disagree. Portrait is just a normal story like many others, The Dubliners are comfy but not all the time.

[Anonymous No.16651490]

>>16651474
I'm happy to hear that, anon, hope you will enjoy it. Some idiots on here shit on Gormenghast because it's "genre fiction". They all reason with these stupid labels.

[Anonymous No.16651493]

>>16651319
Thank you <3

[Anonymous No.16651494]

>>16651485
>Portrait is just a normal story
maybe but incredibly comfy, especially the earlier parts

[Anonymous No.16651508]

>>16651494
The Irish dudes discussing about religion at table is not comfy desu. Maybe the Christmas tree is.

[Anonymous No.16651516]

>>16651490
>Some idiots on here shit on Gormenghast because it's "genre fiction"
may or may have not been me yesterday. I was drunk and angry though so I rescind that comment
>>16651483
>Read the sample beforehand, the writing is very not for everyone.
I like it, I'm a sucker for long, drawn out sentences. It feels Dickensian to me

[Anonymous No.16651523]

>>16651508
the parts in the school always stick in my mind

[Anonymous No.16651543]

>>16649764
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.16651613]

>>16651420
>Lol just think about "dark academia", if that aesthetic isn't comfy then I have to reiterate what I previously said: your concept of "comfy" is limited and dull.
You still haven't elaborated. What does tumblr SJW shit have to do with comfiness? Hell, I don't recall ever seeing those people talk about the concept of comfy (although I don't visit tumblr and my knowledge of it I get from screencaps that I see every now and then).
>Believing that the only possible definition of comfiness is Pepe with a blanket and the rain outside seems so retarded to me.
I never implied that, and just because that image reaction is used in discussing comfy stuff doesn't mean the concept is associated entirely with it, it's just that it's the most adequate image to use. Surely "comfy" doesn't just imply someone sitting in front of a fire and doing something while there's rain outside.
>I can assure you, since I know them IRL, that there are people who approve the house arrest not because they're scared by the virus but because they're lazy fucks who love to read and watch TV series on the sofa all day.
I dislike anecdotal evidence. When you weight this against the loud outcry of people who want to go out so they can meet up in bars, drink large amounts of alcohol and/or fuck afterwards, it just doesn't stand up. Yes, you have people who binge TV series on netflix, but even they have major social needs which the covid measures are against.
>This is how they would throw their own lives away if they hadn't to work, and I hate that kind of people.
There's nothing bad about wanting not to work, it's just that there should be a time when you work and a time when you don't - it's about the balance. Again, comfiness can't exist without there also being periods of hardships (even if they're as miniscule as an exam you have to pass), and we already agreed on this so I don't know why you're mentioning this again.
>And before you ask, yes, I'm convinced that all of this is strictly related to the obsession with comfiness.
And I'm convinced that these connections of yours don't make sense, or at least enough sense.
>If your criteria for defining comfiness is people eating at a table and having conversation then basically every novel existing has comfy parts
Technically yes, but your view is more wide than it should be - literally almost all the books are comfy (not segments in which people have dinner and talk, but literally the entirety of the work).
>In fact, a lot of people ITT suggested 19th century realist novels
Yes, because they usually fit the description. W&P, for example, has quite a lot of scenes like the ones which I've described.
>but fucking Joyce? Jane Eyre? C'mon, let's not be retarded
You look retarded yourself with that take of yours. I can somehow understand not thinking Dubliners is comfy, but Portrait? Ulysses also is comfy at parts, the "Hades" and "Wandering Rocks" chapters especially.

[Anonymous No.16651633]

Once a Runner.

[Anonymous No.16651945]

>>16651613
>You still haven't elaborated
Yes, I have. I've mentioned dark academia, an aesthetic born on that website. Tumblr is not all about SJWs, maybe they have increased in recent years but originally the network was renowned for being the place of origin of almost all the aesthetics known to the internet. Oceangrunge, seapunk, vaporwave, pastel goth, soft grunge, kawaii, indie vintage, pale aesthetic (and I hate that I need to talk about this bullshit) were all pushed on Tumblr since the beginning. Many of these aesthetics have a clear and undeniable comfy element to them. I remember that I used to browse Tumblr for this main reason a lot of years ago. My dashboard was full of beautiful pictures of comfy rooms with dark atmospheres and drops of rain on the window. You may accuse me of widening the subject of our discussion, but I refuse the accusation, because I was simply making examples of how the "comfy obsession" got widespread thank to the internet. Tumblr is one of the places where this feel started to be felt in a context of mass phenomenon. For sure you can not claim that the "comfy" idea was so widespread and consciously shared in the 1990s. So, in conclusion, I agree that being comfy is a universal and natural thing, common to all human beings, but you're braindead if you refuse the obvious fact that the internet made people more attached and fixated on it.
>When you weight this against the loud outcry of people who want to go out so they can meet up in bars, drink large amounts of alcohol and/or fuck afterwards, it just doesn't stand up.
Meh, maybe in America. In Europe it's the opposite, people are so asleep and senile that they didn't see the lockdowns as a restriction of freedoms, they felt okay with it because they're dumbed down by all this internet and TV and house pastimes. It's like opium for them.
>it's just that there should be a time when you work and a time when you don't - it's about the balance.
Yes, and my point in fact is that the balance is getting lost. If you never feel pleasure in working and being active there is something wrong with you. If you frequently need that soporific drug known as "comfy" there is something wrong with you. You can relativize these words again, but I won't change my mind on the fact that people are much more lazy than in the past.
>these connections of yours don't make sense, or at least enough sense
Maybe you don't get them?
>Yes, because they usually fit the description
Not for me. A historical novel full of events, characters, dialogues, with a complex narrative structure is not comfy for me. I find fantastic literature comfier, even if the author happens to be Kafka.
>Ulysses also is comfy at parts, the "Hades" and "Wandering Rocks" chapters especially
Lmao, at this point I have no interest in continuing the discussion, we're light years apart. Ulysses is the least comfy thing I can imagine, and I don't give a fuck about your dogmatic idea of what is comfy.

[Anonymous No.16651959]

>>16650004
Absolutely love this book man

[Anonymous No.16651977]

>>16651945
>Tumblr is not all about SJWs
4chan isn't all about saying nigger either, but it's unmistakably a large part of the site and what gives it its identity

[Anonymous No.16651985]

>>16651490
Gormenghast is supremely comfy and nothing else in the fantasy genre is quite like it imo, fuck the haters.

Fuchsia's death is one of the must beautiful and tragic things I've read and I don't care if some haters think Peake was a hack, he was a genius

[Anonymous No.16651991]

>>16651977
>and what gives it its identity
Now, not in the early 2010s.

[Anonymous No.16651997]

>>16651991
yes, but thats the past anon

[Anonymous No.16652003]

>>16651945
>Oceangrunge, seapunk, vaporwave, pastel goth, soft grunge, kawaii, indie vintage, pale aesthetic (and I hate that I need to talk about this bullshit) were all pushed on Tumblr since the beginning.
"being pushed" and "being the place of origin" aren't the same thing, and a lot of the things that tumblr has appropriated originally came from 4chan which, without hyperbolizing, is the birth place of a lot of the major parts of the internet culture (for better or worse). This uninformed claim of yours, together with your story of browsing tumblr just shows that you don't have an adequate perception of the internet, yet you're still going the "internet historian" route. Also, the entire thing with coffee in rooms while there's rain outside etc. existed many, many years ago and the concept of "comfy" isn't tied to them, at least nowhere near as much as you think - you're yet again stretching the definitions.
>but you're braindead if you refuse the obvious fact that the internet made people more attached and fixated on it.
What made people more attached is the modern era which gives way more opportunities for comfy, of course at the expense of certain other people which are slaving away, sadly. You're just seeing "comfy" thrown around more often since today more than ever there exist people who have no idea about the internet culture yet still use words like they know their meaning, and you can notice this wherever you go - recall the amount of times you've seen someone use the word "schizo" or "autism" incorrectly.
>Maybe you don't get them?
I hate the "rent free" meme, but I can't find any more adequate way of describing this situation. You're obsessed with the covid measures for wrong reasons and project your delusions, thinking that you're describing something that's actually occurring. I don't know almost anyone in real life who puts the accent on the concept of comfy since it's not as widespread as you think, and a good amount of people who like comfiness do it whenever they can, that is when they aren't slaving away at their jobs (and I don't mean just physical jobs, but jobs in general).
>You can relativize these words again
You're the one who is relativizing here, it's the only way to be able to say that Kafka's work is comfy. I haven't seen a single person on the entire site (and I've been here for many years) who claimed that Kafka's works were comfy.
>we're light years apart. Ulysses is the least comfy thing I can imagine, and I don't give a fuck about your dogmatic idea of what is comfy
You're yet again strawmanning, I said that SOME parts of Ulysses are comfy. Far from it that the entire book is comfy.

[Anonymous No.16652004]

>>16651991
it was always full of people saying nigger to be edgy. what's new since like 2014 are the people who are actually very serious about politics.

[Anonymous No.16652028]

>>16652004
No I was referring to Tumblr

[Anonymous No.16652052]

>>16647113
This, Melville describes the feeling of “comfy” better than anything else I’ve seen. I don’t have a copy at hand but it’s near the beginning when Ishmael and Queequeg are bunking together

[Anonymous No.16652073]

>>16644846
There's an anime episode about girls on a train reading this book, I think.

[Anonymous No.16652084]

>>16644002

[Anonymous No.16652196]

>>16652003
>"being pushed" and "being the place of origin" aren't the same thing, and a lot of the things that tumblr has appropriated originally came from 4chan which, without hyperbolizing, is the birth place of a lot of the major parts of the internet culture (for better or worse). This uninformed claim of yours, together with your story of browsing tumblr just shows that you don't have an adequate perception of the internet, yet you're still going the "internet historian" route.
My God, bro, what a load of batshit. If you disagree that Tumblr was the place of origin of almost all the aesthetics that I mentioned you're the ignorant here, not me. 4chan has always been the primary source for the memes, the humor and the slang, but not for the aesthetics and the normie trends. I feel stupid that I have to point out such an obvious thing.
>What made people more attached is the modern era
Lmao, so you agree with me. Perhaps the only difference is that you impute this change to the "more opportunities for comfy", whereas I bring into play the internet as a major channel for the diffusion of the comfy shit. I don't think there is necessarily one of us wrong and one right, we are both saying something true.
>You're obsessed with the covid measures for wrong reasons and project your delusions, thinking that you're describing something that's actually occurring.
Nope, I'm obsessed with the covid measures for a lot of reasons, and you don't have to paint everything with that same brush, so to speak. The covid measures are just another example – although a bit edgy – of how the comfy addiction is manifesting itself among people. You should be grateful that I tend to widen the subject this much, because all these apparent digressions help you and other people understand my point.
>I don't know almost anyone in real life who puts the accent on the concept of comfy since it's not as widespread as you think
So what? This doesn't prove anything. What proves something is the numbers of Youtube that show how people are increasingly looking for palliatives to their shitty lives like comfy ambience sounds and comfy escapist music.
>I haven't seen a single person on the entire site (and I've been here for many years) who claimed that Kafka's works were comfy
This might be due to the fact that 90% of people know Kafka only for The Metamorphosis and The Trial, which are not comfy. But you should have noticed that since the beginning I've been mentioning only Amerika and The Castle, not by coincidence. Both have scenes (not the entirety of them, okay) that are top comfy, especially if read at night with the memey blanket on your knees.
>yet again
Don't be an ass, you also did it.

[Anonymous No.16652202]

Those Alaska dog books by Jack London.

[Anonymous No.16652389]

>>16652196
>If you disagree that Tumblr was the place of origin of almost all the aesthetics that I mentioned you're the ignorant here, not me. 4chan has always been the primary source for the memes, the humor and the slang, but not for the aesthetics and the normie trends. I feel stupid that I have to point out such an obvious thing.
Way to out yourself as not knowing what you're talking about. All the normie memes started out on 4chan one way or another, the trollface being the most famous example. Are you underage or something? Did you start using internet less than 4 years ago?
>Lmao, so you agree with me.
Just because I agree on a few things (like the fact that there's an element of comfy in the contrast between something bad and you reading about it in safety) doesn't mean our views are exactly the same. Also, stop using "lmao", it makes you look like a dumb newfag zoomer. I know content is more important than the way you say it, but rhetoric has its place in communication as well.
>The covid measures are just another example – although a bit edgy – of how the comfy addiction is manifesting itself among people.
The concept of comfy is living rent free in your head, not even the biggest conspiracy theorists connect the covid measures with some major comfy addiction that allegedly exists
>You should be grateful that I tend to widen the subject this much, because all these apparent digressions help you and other people understand my point.
First of all - we should be thankful? That's an arrogant and more importantly, weak claim.
>What proves something is the numbers of Youtube that show how people are increasingly looking for palliatives to their shitty lives like comfy ambience sounds and comfy escapist music.
You're just proving yourself wrong - they are looking for PALLIATIVES, implying that if there were no covid measures they would, like the normies that they are, mostly spend their time outside doing non-comfy stuff. Do you even understand the meaning of the words that you're using? You literally just admitted that the whole "turning to comfy things" you criticize covid for is the result of the covid measures forcing them to, which implies that they aren't rooting for those measures so that they can be comfy or something.
>But you should have noticed that since the beginning I've been mentioning only Amerika and The Castle
The Castle is, in its core concept, very similar to The Trial. Amerika is a whole different story and is a vastly underrated work, but still nowhere near comfy.
>Don't be an ass, you also did it.
Except you never pointed out my supposedly existing strawmen, as opposed to me who pointed yours out and explained why they are strawmen.

[Anonymous No.16652404]

>>16652389
>All the normie memes started out on 4chan one way or another, the trollface being the most famous example
lol you moron that started on ifunny and made its way to 4chan via tumbler

[Anonymous No.16652420]

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich

[Anonymous No.16652447]

>>16652404
based zoomie retard

[Anonymous No.16652538]

>>16652389
>All the normie memes started out on 4chan one way or another, the trollface being the most famous example
Are you actually retarded or are you trying to waste my time for fun? What isn't clear about the difference between memes and aesthetics? Can you even read?
>Just because I agree on a few things (like the fact that there's an element of comfy in the contrast between something bad and you reading about it in safety) doesn't mean our views are exactly the same
You changed the topic again. May be funny, but boring.
>Also, stop using "lmao", it makes you look like a dumb newfag zoomer. I know content is more important than the way you say it, but rhetoric has its place in communication as well.
I can say whatever I want, if you don't like lmao skip to Tumblr or Twitter.
>not even the biggest conspiracy theorists connect the covid measures with some major comfy addiction that allegedly exists
That's not what I did and you're starting to prove yourself as a very dumb person.
>You're just proving yourself wrong - they are looking for PALLIATIVES, implying that if there were no covid measures they would, like the normies that they are, mostly spend their time outside doing non-comfy stuff.
Fucking kek, I am not implying any of this, when I mentioned the Youtube videos used as palliatives I was no longer talking about covid measures. Are you able to differentiate between arguments or you can't help turning everything into a big minestrone?
>You literally just admitted that the whole "turning to comfy things" you criticize covid for is the result of the covid measures forcing them to, which implies that they aren't rooting for those measures so that they can be comfy or something.
No, I didn't admit any of that, you just have a burger-tier reading comprehension.
>The Castle is, in its core concept, very similar to The Trial. Amerika is a whole different story and is a vastly underrated work, but still nowhere near comfy
So we're gonna discuss all night long about my own sensibility? Imagine if I attacked all the people ITT who named books that I don't find comfy lmao

Go to bed big boy

[Anonymous No.16652586]

>>16652538
>What isn't clear about the difference between memes and aesthetics
Aesthetics came from 4chan as well, tumblr can hardly be said to have created anything original, and the concept of comfy certainly didn't have its origin there, even as far as aesthetics go.
>You changed the topic again.
No, I didn't.
>I can say whatever I want, if you don't like lmao skip to Tumblr or Twitter.
You're the one who should go to Tumblr or Twitter if you use "lmao".
>Fucking kek, I am not implying any of this, when I mentioned the Youtube videos used as palliatives I was no longer talking about covid measures. Are you able to differentiate between arguments or you can't help turning everything into a big minestrone?
Except the amount of people who are addicted to comfy is directly related to your talk about covid measures being related to it. Why do I even have to explain this basic stuff to you? If there weren't a significant amount of them, how could your claim, namely. "people are so asleep and senile that they didn't see the lockdowns as a restriction of freedoms, they felt okay with it because they're dumbed down by all this internet and TV and house pastimes" apply?
Also, what does "minestrone" mean?
>No, I didn't admit any of that, you just have a burger-tier reading comprehension.
I literally explained why you're wrong. It's one thing to claim that covid measures are the cause in the increased usage of specific videos on youtube, and another that the the increased amount of people who want to be comfy all day is the cause of the covid measures still existing in their current form, without people standing up for themselves (as you obviously want them to).
>So we're gonna discuss all night long about my own sensibility?
I doubt you even know what "sensibility" means, since that sentence as a response to what I said made no sense. English is probably not your native language. You need to improve it so that this kind of confusion doesn't occur.
>Imagine if I attacked all the people ITT who named books that I don't find comfy lmao
And yet again with the strawman stuff - I did disagree with you, but "attack" is too strong of a word.
>you just have a burger-tier reading comprehension
>Go to bed big boy
You're just resorting to ad hominems now. Way to out yourself as someone incompetent for a serious discussion. This is my last response to you. My advice is to ponder more on this topic, rid yourself of certain projections and stop resorting to strawmen.

[Anonymous No.16652598]

>>16652538
faggot
>>16652586
retard

[Anonymous No.16652602]

>>16652598
brainlet

[Anonymous No.16652609]

>>16652598
halfwit
>>16652602
imbecile

[Anonymous No.16652623]

>>16652609
nigger
>>16652609
kike

[Anonymous No.16652628]

>>16652623
mad

>>16652623
fag

[Anonymous No.16652633]

>>16652628
cock
>>16652628
dick

[Anonymous No.16653158]

>>16652586
>Aesthetics came from 4chan as well
Absolutely not. Most aesthetics, including their names, originated on Tumblr. For example one of the most famous aesthetics, vaporwave, was already popular on Tumblr in the form of different kinds of pictures and web art in 2010, way before Floral Shoppe was discovered on /mu/ and pushed as a meme along with the irony element. You don't know shit about the internet.
>No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
>If there weren't a significant amount of them, how could your claim, namely. "people are so asleep and senile that they didn't see the lockdowns as a restriction of freedoms, they felt okay with it because they're dumbed down by all this internet and TV and house pastimes" apply?
My claim consists in the idea – which you are free to disagree with, but not to distort, as you repeatedly did – that the situation of the house arrest exacerbated and made more evident the addiction of a lot of people to feeling comfy. This is all. What you did was taking an example, an additional argumentation, as the main argument of my speech, and you made a mistake. It's okay, let's move on.
>what does "minestrone" mean?
It's the word for an Italian dish, basically a soup of vegetables. As far as I know it is used in English as well; if not, apologies. The meaning in that context was like "a potion with a lot of different things mixed together inside".
>It's one thing to claim that covid measures are the cause in the increased usage of specific videos on youtube
I never claimed this. The number of views and the number of videos with comfy contents on Youtube have been increasing for a long time before covid.
>and another that the increased amount of people who want to be comfy all day is the cause of the covid measures still existing in their current form, without people standing up for themselves
I partially claimed this. Obviously I don't go as far as saying that the covid measures still exist because people are addicted to comfy (this is purely absurd) but I do claim that a lot of people gladly accept or bear the measures because they love to spend their time at home in comfy settings. The neets – as well as many people who like to read and have almost no social life – are not protesting against the loss of freedom because the condition of confinement fosters the comfy. If it was for me, I would prefer to lose the comfy advantage but maintain my constitutional rights. At last, I want to point out that all this claim does not constitute my whole explanation of why people are not protesting, it's just a simple PLUS, an additional cause, a side explanation. It is fucking obvious that there are also many people who don't have any comfy obsession and yet accept the measures for other reasons, but I am not talking about them, I am talking about those who can't see what is actually going on because they're addicted to the soporific contents of the internet and consumerist culture, which makes them dumb and deaf.

[Anonymous No.16653176]

>>16652586
>I doubt you even know what "sensibility" means, since that sentence as a response to what I said made no sense.
Look, I am not an English speaker, but frankly this is one of those situations where you anglo speakers should learn from other cultures. "Sensibility" derives from the Latin "sensibilis", which means exactly what I meant, i.e. "sensitive". On the other hand, "sensitivity" derives from "sensitivus", which means "(someone) able to perceive through senses", a definition that basically leads back to the meaning of "sensibility". So, in a nutshell, English is such a dumb retarded language that it swaps the meanings of similar (but different) words: according to Latin "sensibility" means "sensitivity", and "sensitivity" means "sensibility". Confused? Because you're a fat retarded anglo shit. The way I used "sensibility" may be wrong in the accepted convention of your stupid language, but it's absolutely correct according to its etimology. Coming to an end, I meant my own sensitivity or subjectivity.

[Anonymous No.16653245]

Growth of the Soil was comfy

[Anonymous No.16653247]

>>16653158
>going for "minestrone" instead of the widely used "hodgepodge"
Come on now.
>but I do claim that a lot of people gladly accept or bear the measures because they love to spend their time at home in comfy settings
That's a big claim because of that "a lot" in the sentence. People are now going out more than ever, literally all of my acquaintances with the exception of a handful suffered heavily in a psychical sense during the lockdowns. They could hardly take not going out to cafes, parties etc.
>If it was for me, I would prefer to lose the comfy advantage but maintain my constitutional rights.
Rights like? Also how is the concept of comfy opposed to it?
>I want to point out that all this claim does not constitute my whole explanation of why people are not protesting, it's just a simple PLUS, an additional cause, a side explanation
Except your talk implies it's one of the major factors, when in reality it's far from that.
>I am talking about those who can't see what is actually going on because they're addicted to the soporific contents of the internet and consumerist culture, which makes them dumb and deaf.
This isn't synonymous with the concept of comfy. Do you seriously think that the entirety of consumerist culture is into the comfy stuff?

>>16653176
>genetic fallacy
1-800-come-on-now

[Anonymous No.16653343]

Any suggestions for books set entirely/mostly in one location, preferably a public social place like a library or a café.

[Anonymous No.16653350]

Jesus Christ...Both of you are faggots

[Anonymous No.16653419]

>>16653247
>going for "minestrone" instead of the widely used "hodgepodge"
Sorry, I didn't know the word "hodgepodge".
>Also how is the concept of comfy opposed to it?
See? You like to change my words. Tell me where I have said or implied that the concept of comfy is conceptually opposed to constitutional rights. You can't. I simply said that, if the advantage of being confined is that you can be comfy for longer periods of time than usual, then I prefer not to be confined and to be comfy only rarely. Around me it seems like people are ready to sell their freedoms and their rights in exchange for more comfortable lives where technology does everything for you. The making of the transhuman slave.
>Except your talk implies it's one of the major factors
No it doesn't, that's your own conclusion. "A lot" doesn't mean the vast majority, means "a lot". Maybe the people I'm talking about are not the majority of the total, but even if they're a minority they're still a lot, and certainly more than 10 years ago.
>Do you seriously think that the entirety of consumerist culture is into the comfy stuff?
Tricky question, you clearly understood what I mean. Consumerist culture in the present forms (staying at home served by Amazon drones, watching easily and quickly downloadable films from Netflix, ordering your ready-made food through an SMS, choosing your escapist music between thousands of videos on Youtube, etc) has a very evident comfy element to it. The comfort is even the key-concept used by companies to attract your attention, brainwash your soul, convince you to buy and finally shape your life as they want. You're a retard if you deny that the dystopic future they want has a comfy side.

[Anonymous No.16653460]

>>16652586
Why are you responding to every single sentence like a faggot?

[Anonymous No.16653484]

>>16653460
Because that's what he is

[Anonymous No.16653682]

>>16653419
>Sorry, I didn't know the word "hodgepodge".
That's weird. It's certainly more used than "minestrone", which I heard of for the first time now.
>You like to change my words. Tell me where I have said or implied that the concept of comfy is conceptually opposed to constitutional rights.
The sentence structure "I would rather lose X but keep Y" implies that X and Y are at least somewhat opposed.
>I simply said that, if the advantage of being confined is that you can be comfy for longer periods of time than usual, then I prefer not to be confined and to be comfy only rarely.
You should have said, then, as that sentence is much better. Also, what kind of confinement are we talking about specifically?
>but even if they're a minority they're still a lot, and certainly more than 10 years ago
I agree that there's more of those people than there was 10 years ago, but they still don't amount to a significant amount.
>The comfort is even the key-concept used by companies to attract your attention, brainwash your soul, convince you to buy and finally shape your life as they want.
Yeah, but theirs is a different kind of comfiness that's being advertised. There are certainly overlapping, and that's because the industries are tied to the concept of comfy - how are you to eat some meal you like while reading a book you like if you can't
1. afford a meal (or alternatively have to hunt it for yourself, like people did in the old times, although even then they were able to be comfy, but not when it comes to food)
2. afford the book
I do agree that consumerism is rampant today, but I think that the people who are obsessed with it are channeling their desires in a wrong way, e.g. it's not the same if you read a book just for fun and if you search out some deeper ones, just like it's not the same if you eat a meal while watching some movie you like and if you just feel pure hunger and eat all day throughout (the former people will certainly get fat as well, but the latter will probably become landwhales).
>You're a retard if you deny that the dystopic future they want has a comfy side.
I'm not denying this, but that aspect of the comfy is unavoidable since it does imply at least partial passivity. The dystopic future is the result of people having comfy sessions 24/7, after which they'll cease being comfy, or at least true comfy since we'll have a lack of contrast. Why a lack of contrast? We're moving towards a period when we'll manage to produce robots which will replace us succesfully in any kind of labor (including more complex stuff like surgeries), and as neurosciences progress a widespread use of drugs will make any other effort of getting your dopamine rush etc. worthless in comparison. I think we're going towards such a world, something similar to the stuff described in "Brave New World", and I don't think this will be stopped. The only salvation is religion, but I doubt people will turn to it like they did before.

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[Anonymous No.16654929]

>>16644002
>Comfy Novels
This is your book.

[Anonymous No.16654951]

All of Garcia Marquez, Vargas Llosa, Cortazar, Fuentes and Bolano. Latin America is a top comfy setting.

[Anonymous No.16655351]

Anything by Dickens, especially David Copperfield
Anything by Bukowski
Adventure books, which you read as a kid like: The three Musketeers, Don Quixote de la Mancha, Sans Familie etc.

[Anonymous No.16655575]

>>16654929
Didn't find that comfy at all. It was just a bunch of shallow characters who pretended to love poetry but didn't seem to understand it.

[Anonymous No.16655663]

>>16651071
Not all of Kafka's works are unsettling. I actually think some of his shorter stuff is quite lovely.

>"Quiet now, step back, will you? Towards the shadows of the trees behind the draperies of the window, towards the garden trellis." I speak through my teeth and the banisters flow like waterfalls past the frosted glass. "Fly away. Your wings, that I've never seen, want to take you to the rural valley, or to Paris, if you're driven there. But enjoy the view out the window, when the processions come from all three streets without giving way to each other, pass through one another and let the empty square reappear between their last rows. Wave your handkerchiefs, be terrified, be moved, compliment the beautiful lady that passes by. Cross over the stream on the wooden bridge, nod to the bathing children and marvel at the hoorrah of the thousand sailors on the distant battleship."

[Anonymous No.16655668]

>>16655663
Oh, fuck me. Hurrah*.

[Anonymous No.16655804]

>>16655575
I guess he thinks it's comfy because of a variety of stories that are being told throughout the work, and they are pretty varied. My favorite was probably the one with the war reporter near the end, and I also really loved the one where the narrator uses a lot of latin quotes.

[Anonymous No.16655817]

is love most jules verne
maybe its nostalgia, but his adventure themes in Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea and Around the World in Eighty Days makes me feels peak comfy