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Read Lenin.

>> No.16632898

>>16632884
is Lenin like Hitler for people who afraid of getting in trouble but still have that edgy 12 year old thing going on

>> No.16632905

A man? WITH musclies?!?? BIG MAN MUSCLIES?!? BIG MAN MUSCLIES AND VLADIMIR LENIN BOOK???!!??

>> No.16632929

>>16632898
Yes, it's a safe edgy.

>> No.16632955

Why does the gymbro BUT WAIT ALSO A LEFTIST?!?! aesthetic just never seem to work

>> No.16632960
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>>16632898
>>16632929
Nazi's deal with muh 6 million while communists deal with muh 100 million. I don't know communists are hated universally by ignorant liberals and right wingers.
Also Lenin didn't write a diary about muh jews, he wrote actual political theory and put it into practise, not just him multiple other countries.

>> No.16632965

>>16632960
>a diary about muh jews
thanks for letting us know you have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.16632974

>>16632965
Have you even read mein kampf, it's literally a diary about muh jews

>> No.16632984

>>16632955
Probably because of the amount of mentally ill who flock to leftist ideology. They would be the first to be gassed in a communist country, but for some reason think a totalitarian communist government would love to have them stay alive and leech resources

>> No.16633001

>>16632960
Communists are not hated or persecuted, you can wave your hammer and sickle flag around wherever you want, nothing happens to you. Everyone understands that doing that with a Nazi flag ruins your life. It's not the same thing at all, it's not even comparable.

>> No.16633005

>>16632974
Yes I have, and this proves you haven't or were filtered badly

>> No.16633018

>>16632960
I can see why dumpy looking chunky bois are attracted to Lenin now. I bet you think this picture has swag, huh? He looks like an untrustworthy uggo bulldog

>> No.16633024

>>16632884
Lenin was human garbage.
>>16632898
Seems like it.

>> No.16633028
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>>16633001
You literally have neo-nazis walking with Hakenkreuz flags holding rallies in the US. What you're saying is wrong.

>> No.16633030

>>16632884
No

>> No.16633042

>>16632898
>people who afraid of getting in trouble but still have that edgy 12 year old thing going on
>posted on 4channel

>> No.16633048

>>16632884
Lenin's great, I particularly enjoyed State and Revolution

>> No.16633052

>>16633028
>Here, I have one anecdotal example that totally disproves your point!!
You're delusional if you think the backlash for both is even remotely comparable, you can openly be a commie and work for government institutions or academia, wouldn't try to do the same if you're a nazi

>> No.16633056

>>16633028
How did that dude NEVER get doxxed. Call me a conspiratard but it is suspect and hes in so mamy photos. Unless Im remembering incorrectly

>> No.16633057

>>16633028
yeah and what does a nazi flag vs a commie flag do for you when you're at Harvard or in general? Are those guys with the nazi flags powerful members of society or are they complete outcasts?

>> No.16633062

>>16632960
People hand-wave/excuse however many died via Communistic practices far more than whatever the Nazis did.

What the Nazis wanted, economically, I am absolutely certain persons on the Left would agree with if you did not inform them that Nazis wanted it.

Again: it's a safe edgy. Being super anti-Capitalist because you got the bad end of the stick, but people don't even take you seriously and even your logo is fashionista. It's just like any rebellious activity to get back at society.

>> No.16633067

>>16633052
Can be an open commie in academia, but can't become US citizen if open commie, so bit of both really

>> No.16633083

Tell me why

>> No.16633084

>>16633052
Any smart employer knows to fire communists before they start unionizing their workplace. It kind of depends, some psychotic right wingers would try to smash your head in if they know you're a commie. I guess online it's more tolerated but that's maybe cause one side is about liberating the working class and the other is to kill jews and other minorities.

>> No.16633086
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16633086

>>16632884

read Guénon

>> No.16633091

>>16633067
>Can be an open commie in academia
Can't be an open nazi in nearly any capacity anyway.
>but can't become US citizen if open commie
But if you're a citizen already it's no problem
>so bit of both really
Not really

>> No.16633101

>>16633084
You know that in cities, you can be a teacher or lecturer or work in the media and be an open commie right? No problem.

>> No.16633106

>>16632960
>Picture: The man who ordered the deaths of teenage girls and was too pussy to pull the trigger himself
I wasn't prepared to find Shakespeare's depiction of Richard III comparably admirable, but it's happening. Fuck Hitler as well, by the way.

>> No.16633111

>>16633083
there can scarcely have been another man in history who managed so profoundly to change so large a society on such a scale. Lenin's administration laid the framework for the system of government that ruled Russia for seven decades and provided the model for later Communist-led states that came to cover a third of the inhabited world in the mid-20th century. Thus, Lenin's influence was global. A controversial figure, Lenin remains both reviled and revered, a figure who has been both idolised and demonised. Even during his lifetime, Lenin "was loved and hated, admired and scorned" by the Russian people. This has extended into academic studies of Lenin and Leninism, which have often been polarised along political lines.

>> No.16633113

>>16633062
This. It's edginess for people who don't want to be edgy towards the sort of people you're not allowed to be edgy against. It's commodified rebellion.

>> No.16633119

>>16633101
That's why mainstream media have ostracized Zizek. How often do you see communists on social media?

>> No.16633130

>>16633119
Mostly neo-communists, but very often

>> No.16633131

>>16633084
>one side is about liberating the working class and the other is to kill jews and other minorities
The former can only be achieved through the latter.

>> No.16633138

>>16633131
Based

>> No.16633140

>>16633119
>That's why mainstream media have ostracized Zizek.

Uhh, what? He's probably the most fashionable philosopher of our times.

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>>16633131
Minorities are part of the working class. As Lenin said:
>"The Jewish bourgeoisie are our enemies, not as Jews but as bourgeoisie. The Jewish worker is our brother."

>> No.16633158

>>16633119
How does that change anything about what I said?

>> No.16633164

>>16633086
Thanks bro, this is gay as fuck and seriously made me consider burning my one Guénon book

>> No.16633166

>>16633152
Yep, it's definitely safe edgy. Cringe and bluepilled.

>> No.16633169

>>16633140
The liberal media canceled him for being “racist” and “islamophobic”. There have been huge hit pieces written about him meant to derail his career saying a whole bunch a nasty lies about him. He can't publish Op-Eds in the Times or Guardian anymore.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/10/what-is-zizek-for
https://youtu.be/uyxAJr6kc5c

>> No.16633200

>>16633169
>He can't publish Op-Eds in the Times or Guardian anymore.

I wouldn't take any philosopher seriously who those sites would give a platform to speak on, frankly. Fucking Times and Guardian, the lowest common denominator of all media.

>> No.16633205

>>16632984
>totalitarian
>communist
yikes

>> No.16633216

>>16633169
That's because the left always eat their own.
>>16633205
Communism is inherently totalitarian, yikes indeed

>> No.16633240

>>16633091
>Can't be an open nazi in nearly any capacity anyway
Nope. Also both are glowied up
>But if you're a citizen already it's no problem
Yeah obviously nigger I meant immigration.
>Not really
It's the exact definition of a bit of both retard. Also in a full crisis the elite would prefer nazis to commies, historically anyway

>> No.16633242

>>16633205
Yeah how it actually goes down irl. BUT MUH PERFECT THEORY NOOOOO

>> No.16633324

>>16633205
>We'll just politely request that you surrender your land and belongings

>> No.16633330

>>16633240
>Nope. Also both are glowied up
It's still far easier to be an open commie no matter how much you try to deny it. But yes both are indeed "glowied up"
>Yeah obviously nigger I meant immigration.
If you're illegal you can't get a government job either so your point makes zero sense.
>It's the exact definition of a bit of both retard.
It heavily skews one way, retard.
>Also in a full crisis the elite would prefer nazis to commies, historically anyway
You are delusional and lack historical awareness.

>> No.16633349

>He was a Russian who had lived away from Russia for a long time and was examining his country attentively-it had appeared more picturesque and colourful from afar. He correctly appraised its potential force-that is, the exceptional giftedness of the people, as yet feebly expressed, unawakened by history, heavy and dreary; but there was talent everywhere, standing out in bright golden stars against the sombre background of fantastic Russian life.

>Vladimir Lenin, a big, real man of this world, has passed away. His death is a painful blow to all who knew him, a very painful blow!

>But the black line of death shall only underscore his importance in the eyes of all the world-the importance of the leader of the world’s working people.

>If the clouds of hatred for him, the clouds of lies and slander woven round him were even denser it would not matter, for there is no such force as could dim the torch he has raised in the stifling darkness of the world gone mad.

>Never has there been a man who deserves more to be remem-bered forever by the whole world.

>Vladimir Lenin is dead. But those to whom he bequeathed his wisdom and his will are living. They are alive and working more successfully than anyone on Earth has ever worked before.

;_;

>> No.16633393

>>16633330
>It's still far easier to be an open commie
I agree dumbass
>If you're illegal you can't get a government job either
???
>It heavily skews one way, retard
Eh, somewhat
>historical awareness
It was proven. No point being mad about it. Besides, I said 'full crisis'. The US aint in full crisis and thus elites likely prefer the commies. Obviously we have to allow for the fact that anyone identifying as either in the US is 95% likely to be the social dregs - a real crisis would winnow these people out of both camps fast

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>>16633393
>Eh,

>> No.16633471

>>16633393
>???
>You can be an open commie working for government institutions
>You can't become a citizen if you're a commie
If you're not a ciziten, you can't get a job at a government institution to openly flaunt your commie-ness at either, dumbass
>It was proven. No point being mad about it
I'm not mad, you have no idea what you're talking about obviously.
>The US
You know there's more countries in the world besides the US right retard?

>> No.16633473

>>16633446
wrong nigger, I accept your surrender though

>> No.16633485

>>16633473
>nigger
>I accept your surrender
How old are you, 12?

>> No.16633494

>>16633471
>Commies can't legally immigrate to US
>Illegals can't get a job in government
>Commie non-citizens also can't get a job in government
How does this affect my point.
>I'm not mad
I'm glad
>there's more countries in the world besides the US
Not that matter

>>16633485
I already said I accepted stop being a fag

>> No.16633510

>>16633494
>How does this affect my point.
Man you not only lack historical awareness but also reading comprehension, I spelled it out for you and you still can't grasp it. This is what you said
>Can be an open commie in academia, but can't become US citizen if open commie, so bit of both really
I explained why it's really not a bit of both.
>Not that matter
Wow ur so edgy, have some more freedoms

>> No.16633525

>>16633494
I'm sorry, that was an insult to 12 year olds, you're obviously mentally handicapped. Sorry to find out this way bro, it's not your fault.

>> No.16633546

>>16632884
Read Galbraith

>> No.16633580

>>16633510
I said commies can't become citizens ie immigrate. Born Americans don't 'become' citizens they're born citizens, and thus can be commies in gov. I figured the language was fine for non-retards. Idk what your sperging about illegals not being able to get gov jobs for, that makes no difference
>I explained
No you just complained that's not the same thing

>>16633525
Getting sad now. Please, dilate, for your own sake

>> No.16633590

>>16633001
>Communists are not hated
Maybe in academia among educated people, but lots of Americans still have a knee jerk reaction to anything communist. Nazi's are hated for obvious reasons pretty much universally, communist hate is just based on red scare propaganda that's been passed down in the psyche of Amerifats for decades.

>> No.16633636

>>16632884
Communists are from Satan

>> No.16633643

>>16633636
Wrong. Capitalists are from Satan.

>> No.16633649

>>16633636
Elites classes of people hoarding resources is from Satan.

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>>16632884
Whatever nigga, economic faggotry will always come last

>> No.16633680

>>16632884
Posting a nazi holding Lenin can be construed as trolling mate. I'd suggest you delete the picture.

>> No.16633707

>>16633656
Good goy, just focus on irrelevant ethnic squabbles and identity larping like a nigger faggot instead of actually trying to solve problems.

>> No.16633711

>>16633580
>I said commies can't become citizens ie immigrate. Born Americans don't 'become' citizens they're born citizens, and thus can be commies in gov. I figured the language was fine for non-retards. Idk what your sperging about illegals not being able to get gov jobs for, that makes no difference
This, as I pointed out, is totally irrelevant to the point. The point was that you can be openly commie in government jobs in some instances, but as a nazi in no instances at all. Immigration is irrelevant to that, since non-citizens can't get government jobs anyway.
Also better stop figuring if you're the retard, retard.
>No you just complained that's not the same thing
No you're just too retarded to understand apparently

>> No.16633723

>>16633643
>>16633636
Both are you idiots

>> No.16633731

>>16633680
Do you solve problems by:
A) Splitting hairs over abstract economic bullshit
B) Unify people based on something they instinctually care about and put the fear of god into the kikes

>> No.16633737

>>16633731
>>16633707
oops

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>>16633680
These are actually your average german communists:
https://youtu.be/AZexO9GALtc
https://youtu.be/1jTtboMeGOg
https://youtu.be/en6MFRZnHOQ

>> No.16633776

>>16633731
>A) Splitting hairs over abstract economic bullshit
How is economic inequality abstract? It's the one thing that has a tangible effect on the majority of peoples lives.
>B) Unify people based on something they instinctually care about and put the fear of god into the kikes
There's nothing inherently unifying about white identity or any racial identity for that matter. People of all races have continually waged war and fucked over each other over different ideology and constructed identities that conflicted with each other. If it's not blacks vs whites, it's brown eyes vs blue eyes, mormon vs scientology, whatever. A common human identity is where we need to start, and it's painfully obvious at this point

>> No.16633790

>>16633711
I already agreed you can't be a Nazi in gov, but a commie sometimes - as long as they're a born American. My point was commies can't immigrate to the US, Nazis can. Guess you didn't notice since you keep repeating this like an autist. Which ends this gay argument
>retard, retard, retard, retard, retard, retard
Seething. Glad I can teach you some new English words though, maybe one day you can immigrate too.

>> No.16634331

>>16632884
Lenin raped his sister Phoebe

>> No.16634391

>>16633590
>Nazi's are hated for obvious reasons pretty much universally, communist hate is just based on red scare propaganda
reread this sentence slowly lol

>> No.16635049

>>16633790
>retard, retard, retard, retard, retard, retard
Have you read your own posts, retard?
>My point was commies can't immigrate to the US, Nazis can.
No they can't, retard. Neither can, that's why your point is irrelevant. You're so dense it's almost unbelievable.
>Seething. Glad I can teach you some new English words though, maybe one day you can immigrate too.
Lmao who'd honestly want to immigrate to that shithole except for poor thirs worlders? No thank you. Retard.

>> No.16635619

>>16632884
I am, I have his collected works and many other individual works, they are a sublime reading experience. Shame the thread devolved into shitposters arguing.

>> No.16635960

>>16632884
Nah lenin, marx, and the rest are for midwits who think they're cool and edgy for being anti capitalist in a capitalist society. They fail to recognize the real danger of their ideology in favor of high idealism. As if a utopia were possible. These people don't understand human nature, things that other philosophers had said years ago.

>> No.16636098

>>16632960
Fascism was correctly implemented in many cases. You just dislike it because your guys died.

>> No.16636106

>>16633028
And?
>oh well look at this one specific guy that didnt get doxxed
Nobody cares enough to dox Cletus, he has nothing to lose but his spot in the trailer park. However if you're anyone in the higher classes of society you will have your life ruined for this. Go make a twitter with your real name and face and tweet "Fuck Niggers" and "Hitler was a great guy" and see what happens

>> No.16636113

>>16633084
>psychotic right wingers would try to smash your head in if they know you're a commie
Lmao commies are so disconnected from reality. Commies aren't getting killed all over the place like its Weimar Germany

>> No.16636174

>>16635960
>muh hooman najtchure

>> No.16636454

>>16632898
No, because his texts are actually quite impactful and insightful. Any literary critic or historian (regardless of whether they agree with him or not) will concede had a keen understanding of class dialectics on a national and international scale and was an intelligent and precise writer (if slightly underdeveloped compared to his counterparts). He also successfully dragged Russia into the 20th century when it had been fairly underdeveloped for centuries since the start of the industrial revolution and laid the ground work for improving the livelihood of millions and turning his country into a major superpower (later corrupted by Stalin) which managed to stave off the growth adn domination of Pax Romana until about the late 70s. Regardless of his later transgressions Lenin is an important political and literary figure who contributed to our understanding of class, the state, and nationhood today.

Hitler on the other hand was a terrible writer with a poor understanding of the world due to his drug addiction, psychosis and unchecked antisemitic views

>> No.16636468

>>16636174
>dude everyone will get along and behave if we put the power of Lenin and marx in them
>science doesn't matter
Okay retard

>> No.16636476

>>16636468
>bro I'm telling you the material conditions don't affect the way people behave
ok buddy retard

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>read lenin

>> No.16636535

Maybe when you losers stop shitposting about theory on social media and do something I'll take some interest in your neutered ideology.

>> No.16636546

>>16636454
None of your essays will make a difference.

>> No.16636733

>>16636476
People fight to spread their genes regardless, if capitalism wasn't there people would still be fighting for resources and power. And the only way to enforce it at all is by brute force and authoritarian means. I would blow your head off, boy.

>> No.16636826

>>16635960
>in favor of high idealism.
Marx, Lenin were heavily against utopian idealist thinking and were materialists.

>> No.16636833

>>16632884
Sorry don't read right wingers

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>>16632884
>read lenin

>> No.16636849

>>16632898
Yes. He and Stalin are for redditors who want to be edgy but don’t have the balls to go full /pol/tard.

>> No.16636855

>>16636454
Imagine believing any of this lmao. He was a faggot that murdered millions of Russians, and is vaunted 'industrialization' happened everywhere else in the West without his help.

The funniest thing about Communists is that you literally only believe what you believe because liberals told you it was OK to believe it. The things liberals consider beyond the pale, eg. racism and fascism, you'll agree with them about that 100%, you literally NEVER question what the liberals tell you matter while pretending you're opposed to them. You even fought alongside the liberals in WW2 against the fascists. pathetic fucking retards

>> No.16636858

>>16632960
Me on the left

>> No.16636861

>>16636849
Hitler is for bitter nerds who want to be edgy online but don´t have the balls to go full Mujahedeen IRL.

>> No.16636873

>>16636861
quite a few Hitler fans do go Mujahideen irl, you have your Tarrante, your Breivik, your Roof. The FBI tells us that white nationalism is the single most pressing threat in the entire country. the FBI! cops!

>> No.16636879

>>16636861
This too

>> No.16636886

>>16632884
*butchers marxism forever*

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>>16636873
>Mentally ill mutts
Call back, when you have units across the world engaged in violent struggles

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>>16633446

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>>16632898
Top kek. I will be using this one.

>> No.16636943

>>16633005
Lmao stay in your lane imbecile

>> No.16636946

>>16636943
cope harder tranny

>> No.16636954

>>16636913
are you questioning the reports of the FBI anon? they clearly said that WN is the biggest threat in the most powerful country in the world. Why would they lie?

>> No.16636958

>>16636946
>replying that quick
You're that desperate for attention huh, either way I bet you just started trying to read 'real literature' and you think fucking mein kampf of all things will give you anything of substance if you were looking for traditionalist foundations. You are a mental midget lmao, mentally ill to boot, probably an incel, yikes!

>> No.16636961

>>16632898
Im edgy but not racist starter pack

>> No.16636962

>>16633240
>Also in a full crisis the elite would prefer nazis to commies,
nigga world war 2 literally disproves your point

>> No.16636971

>>16636954
I dont really know much Amerimutts at all, tbeh. I just wish those subhumans would enter civil war already.

>> No.16636980

>>16636962
World war II happened years after elites in Germany made their choice.

>> No.16637002

>>16636855
>vaunted 'industrialization' happened everywhere else in the West without his help
russian industrialisation occurred under (and is an interesting case study for) a multitude of reasons not relevant for many other European nations. I am sorry if youre so ill-informed on world history that Lenin's rapid industrialisation of Russia in the 20th century is unremarkable to you, but that take nonetheless remains a-historic at best.

Also never claimed Lenin was the cause of wider European industrialisation you pseud.

>He was a faggot that murdered millions of Russians

And despite this everything I said is still correct

>you literally only believe what you believe because liberals told you it was OK to believe it

seethe harder

>> No.16637018

>>16636855
Then why is there so much strong criticism against liberals coming from marxists?

>> No.16637026

>>16636958
>You're that desperate for attention huh, either way I bet you just started trying to read 'real literature' and you think fucking mein kampf of all things will give you anything of substance if you were looking for traditionalist foundations. You are a mental midget lmao, mentally ill to boot, probably an incel, yikes!
That's a lot of projection for a small comment I made in a thread I just opened lmao, I'm not even the same guy but keep seething tranny

>> No.16637028

>>16637002
>a multitude of reasons not relevant for many other European nations.
yeah it was just a coincidence they were all industrializing at the same time. clearly the magic power of Lenin that did it

anyway continue being a little bitch for liberals, they clearly see you as like a pet or something

>> No.16637036

>>16637018
resentment against their masters that they're too afraid to actually contradict. You will NEVER see a commie question the things liberals care the most about, eg. racism or sexism.

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>>16637026

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>>16637036
Then what is this:
https://thecommunists.org/2019/03/23/news/the-reactionary-nightmare-of-gender-fluidity/
https://youtu.be/ZkttzU86CFE
https://youtu.be/472lCEy4dBw

>> No.16637068

>>16637036
Liberals care the most about "free market", which is the centerpiece of their ideology. Thats what commies question all the time.

>> No.16637084

>>16637067
Class is a social issue

>> No.16637094

>>16637068
yeah liberals definitely get more angry if you question the free market than antiracism. definitely lol

that's why everyone is terrified to say anything against the free market in public but nobody minds saying racist stuff

>> No.16637115

>>16637094
Yes? Many liberals are somewhat racist themselves.

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>>16637084
The theory of race was supplemented by a carefully planned and slowly evolved method, which drove such a wedge between the white and black workers that there probably are not today in the world two groups of workers with practically identical interests, who hate and fear each other so deeply and persistently and who are kept so far apart, that neither sees anything of common interest.

White supremacy is the real secret of the rule of the bourgeoisie and the hidden cause behind the failure of the labor movement in this country. White skin privileges serve only the bourgeoisie and precisely for that reason, they will not let us escape them. But instead, pursue us with them through every hour of our life, no matter where we go. They are poisoned bait. To suggest that the acceptance of white skin privilege is in the interests of white workers is equivalent to suggesting that swallowing the worm with the hook in it is in the interests of the fish. To argue that repudiating these privileges is a sacrifice is to argue that the fish is making a sacrifice when it leaps from the water, flips its tail, shakes its head furiously in every direction and throws the barbed offering.

>> No.16637146

>>16637115
Imagine pretending you get in more trouble for questioning the free market than being racist. The level of dishonesty is just staggering

>> No.16637149

>>16637138
'jews'

>> No.16637155
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16637155

>>16637149
https://youtu.be/Cli5WNZ083c

>> No.16637176

>>16637026
I know you're probably the same kind of person so it doesnt really matter, but go ahead and seethe into the abyss in a manner befit only for a resentful slave such as yourself

>> No.16637181

>>16637146
Why are you assuming that the establishment is wholly liberal? Liberals are screeching at it as well.

And tell me, where would I get into more trouble if I supported Maduro and where would I get into trouble if I supported Israeli encouchment onto Palestinian soil?

>> No.16637193

I read “what is to be done” and a bio on Lenin. He was a chud.

>> No.16637200

>>16632960
Shieeet

>> No.16637201

>>16637146
Criticism of the market is allowable in proportion to the actual weakness of the forces opposing it. If there was a real movement, rather than a sea of queer theory Deconstructivist liberals, toleration of critique would vanish. Market critique is allowed as long as there’s no semblance of threat.

>> No.16637210

>>16637155
very nice meme, continue being incapable of even thinking bad things about Jews, they totally don't run your society

>> No.16637216

>>16637201
And for criticism of national issues its the opposite? The bigger power the "racists" wield, the more space they get?

>> No.16637220

>>16637181
if the establishment is not liberals what is it? You know very well that you can post whatever commie meme material you want on your social media and nothing will happen to you, you cannot post anything racist.

>> No.16637226

Leftoids don't actually think racists are a powerful or relevant faction anymore right?

>> No.16637230

>>16637155
>zizek
neoliberal midwit promoted by academia and the mainstream media. the msm will never promote a fascist/third positionism thinker because its an ideology that goes against the ZOG's plans
reminder that capitalism and communism are two different sides of the same jewish coin
when a nation becomes fascist/national socialist and goes against the rothschild agenda (hitler and mussolini, gadaffi, more recently with evo morales) the jews crush it.
leftists and particularly antifa are tools for neoliberalism. jeff bezos literally uses diversity and immigrants to crush trade unions yet leftists will still support immigration lmao

>> No.16637236

Fuck leftists.

>> No.16637238

>>16637210
Stop mystifying jews as a transcendental hivemind who's only purpose is to destroy 'western civilization'. There are jews working at mcdonnalds, there are homeless jews, there are midwit jews, retarded jews, disabled jews, gay jews, transgender jews, manlet jews, jews with debt, normie jews, and so on and so on.
The individual variability of ethnic groups makes it impossible for blanket statements to hold water when analyzed on a person by person basis. It showcases your absolute ignorance of how our socioeconomic system functions.

>> No.16637246

>>16637216
‘Racism’ in the modern sense is often just the rejection of the current liberal vanguard’s project - globohomo open borders etc. ‘Real’ racists having power necessarily implies the kind of social crisis that absolutely would equal the ceding of space in proportion to influence, because the alternative for domestic elites in such a crisis would be anti-market forces. Not just anti-market in the critique of their current project, but of both that and of the foundations of the market itself, which the real racists almost never advance.
In the meantime, the two buttress each other. Note how Sanders-Corbyn, despite approving of swathes of the globohomo project, were simultaneously racist and anti-capitalist. The two went hand in hand in elite rhetoric

>> No.16637255

>>16637230
>why doesn't academia promote some kind of ethnic cleanser
I wonder why?
Zizek has been ostracized, called a transphobe, a misogynist, a racist, a crypto-fascist, and so on, by the corporate liberal media.

>> No.16637259

>>16637238
Yeah and there are Jews working in banks and the press and academia, those are the relevant ones

>> No.16637260

>>16637238
Typical scapegoat. Ignore the fact that it will be illegal to boycott israel soon. It's ok because some jews aren't heads of companies. They own everything and it's ridiculous to not look at this fact as fucked up.

>> No.16637267

>>16637255
Yeah and not for his communism. It was because he has slight reservations about the migrants in Europe

>> No.16637274

>>16636826
i hate how people call Marx an idealist. They should read the schlock that the "socialist" were writing back then

>> No.16637275

>>16637259
Yes, that's what marxist know. Class-struggle.

>>16637260
Leftists get slandered as anti-Semites again and again for criticizing israel.

>> No.16637278

>>16636454
>(later corrupted by Stalin)
Stalin was good, he didnt corrupt anything

>> No.16637283

>>16637220
>if the establishment is not liberals what is it?
The establishment. Its mix of established political cliques, democratically elected officials and the bourgeiose. Ideologues can be found almost exclusively within the second category.

>You know very well that you can post whatever commie meme material you want on your social media and nothing will happen to you
Depends on the particular socmedia I guess, in butthurtbelt you might get in trouble. Here most people prefer communism, so the goverment couldnt just supress it, they would risk that the people would form a coherent force.

>> No.16637284

>>16637255
>Zizek has been ostracized, called a transphobe, a misogynist, a racist, a crypto-fascist, and so on, by the corporate liberal media.
A few shitty tabloids called him racist. Talk to me again when zizek has been mass banned, silenced from every social media platform, has had his paypal removed, books no longer sold on amazon, etc
you're just a shill for big capital and neoliberalism. if communism were really a threat you'd be getting banned and silenced everywhere but you aren't, unlike third positionists. Because you're just shills for the rothschild NWO. Alex jones is far more of a dissident than any communist thinker will ever be, because he's actually being treated like one.

>> No.16637300

>>16637284
Communism is not inheritably a hateful ideology. Being a nazi, fascist, etc. is

>> No.16637302

>>16637283
>. Here most people prefer communism, so the goverment couldnt just supress it, they would risk that the people would form a coherent force.
absolutely naive. they don't give a shit what the people prefer, do you think Americans voted for mass immigration lmao

>> No.16637305

>>16637284
>if communism were really a threat you'd be getting banned and silenced everywhere but you aren't,
Care to explain what is going on in Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico or India? Or did you forgot that there is a real physical world as well and not just Facebook and Twitter?

Also shit logic. ISIS is a tool of the big western capital, but try to post their crap on socmedia.

>> No.16637310

>>16637284
also the reason why communist dont get banned is because there is no mainstream communist that is actively promoting a revolution, the highest communist youtuber ive seen had like 50k subscribers

>> No.16637313

>>16637300
Nothing you said there goes against any of my points
and there is nothing wrong with hate. it's a natural emotion. Fascists want racial separation, not genocide. that's what the jews want
The vampiric jewish vampires who run the world want to genocide and mix all races into one disgusting globohomo servile brown mess. that's hateful

>> No.16637318

>>16637302
Who is Shartistani president again and what was his "big project"?

>> No.16637319

>>16637300
It is though, commies constantly talk about murdering various types of people, and they did murder those people historically.

>> No.16637320

>>16637284
Zizek doesn't have social media, and there are luckily enough leftist publishers who publish his books. Stop playing this stupid game of victimization. It doesn't follow that those who get ostracized more is somehow speaking more of the truth, sorry but the reality is more complex.
>you're just a shill for big capital and neoliberalism
bro what are you doing on /lit/ if you don't even know how neoliberalism and communism are complete opposites?

>> No.16637326

>>16637318
And he's deported fewer of them than Obama. big success, much democracy. again nobody voted on the 65 reform, nobody wanted it

>> No.16637328

>>16637313
> Fascists want racial separation, not genocide. that's what the jews want
Doubt

>> No.16637330

>>16637310
You can find a lot of communist youtubers with 100+k subs, but they are Ru only.

>> No.16637334

>>16637320
>doesn't follow that those who get ostracized more is somehow speaking more of the truth
Yeah but it does follow that the people in power don't see communists as a credible threat but do see fascists as one. Liberals literally find you like vaguely cute and eccentric, they completely lose their minds over fascists.

>> No.16637340

>>16637326
See my point? They allow him to talk big, but they dont allow the masses to enforce their will.

>> No.16637341

>>16637330
I guess that makes sense since Russia was only communist 30 years ago. I hear their communism is pretty weak and revisionist though

>> No.16637345

>>16637300
Wanting to kill rich people seems hateful (Maybe justified hatred but still hatred none the less) Plus commies purity spiral all the fucking time

>> No.16637347

>>16637334
vaush, contrapoints and most "left" people spend most of their time shitting on "tankies" aka people who defend already existing communism and the USSR

>> No.16637349

>>16637334
They routinely lose their minds over Honk Kong, Cuba and Venezuela.

>> No.16637350

>>16637345
we dont have to kill, the bourgeoisie could easily give up their power to us without a fight.

>> No.16637352

>>16637305
India is right wing nationalist.
Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, are trying their best to fight off imperialism but the imperial core is just a bit north of them.
Mexico has zapatista guerilla fighters trying to liberate their country also mexico is ruled by a socdem

>> No.16637363

>>16637305
>Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia
Countries closer to fascism/national socialism with the exception of cuba. they all go against the ZOG agenda. evo morales is an ethnonationalist lmao. zapatistas are also ethno nationalists
>>16637310
There's plenty of them stop talking bollocks
>>16637320
The end goal of neoliberal capitalism and communism are basically the same. a stateless mutt world. the revolution against the tsar was financed by big capitalists and jews u retard
>>16637328
The fighting force of germany in ww2 was the most diverse in the world, zogbot

>> No.16637365

>>16637341
Its extremely fragmented and pacified. Only fraction allowed to be relevant is the KPRF, which is somewhat pro-Putin.

>> No.16637370

>>16637363
neoliberal capitalism can't survive without a state.

>> No.16637372
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>>16632884
You mean Lev Bronstein?

>> No.16637375

>>16637363
>The fighting force of germany in ww2 was the most diverse in the world, zogbot
Doesn't mean anything. they're plan was to rule the world with only white European males.

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>>16637372
>posting a literal debunked /pol/ infograph
Get out of /lit/ you mouthbreather

>> No.16637384

>>16633028
This was the only guy at Charlottesville with any kind of Nazi paraphernalia. No one knew who he was. No one does now. He was the only person who didn't get doxed.

You almost certainly know this.

>> No.16637390

>>16637384
all while shouting "You/Jew will not replace us"

>> No.16637391

>>16637382
I'm sorry but this has already been debunked.

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16637392

>>16637384
I don't know this, I just searched for neonazi rally in google images.

>> No.16637394

>>16637350
They will never accept to become proletarians unless they are patriots or love Marxist-lenenist discipline but these tend to be officers

>> No.16637396

>>16637391
nice meme, but the reality is that 'jewish bolsheviks' was a retarded conspiracy theory pushed by Adolf Hitler and his Nazi regime

>> No.16637398

>>16637363
>Countries closer to fascism/national socialism with the exception of cuba.
Venezaela is hardly "fascist", unless you go with the definition used by the most braindead leftoids (fascism=authority). Bolivia is once again ruled by socialists.

>they all go against the ZOG agenda
Because they are all socialist. Meanwhile the only goverment that allows, if not promotes Neo-Nazism serves the "ZOG" as its loyal attack dog.

>> No.16637406

>>16637372
>Members of the central Bolshevik goverment
Why do Mutts fall for this crap? There was no organ of that name, neither is there a date.

>> No.16637413

>>16637398
>the only goverment that allows, if not promotes Neo-Nazism
Poland and Hungary?

>> No.16637414

>>16637413
Try again, its close.

>> No.16637419

>>16637414
you surely don't mean the country with like 10% muslim population rather than the entirely white ones that refuse any immigrants

>> No.16637421
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16637421

>>16637390
>oy vey only WE can talk about that goy!

>> No.16637427

>>16637419
Muslims are non-issue there and no one wants to emigrate there. Try again.

>> No.16637428

>>16637421
yes racism is bad

>> No.16637432

>>16637392
Most people invested in the Charlottesville event, on either side, understand that guy was a plant for propaganda purposes. I shouldn't have been surprised that it would be one of the top image results.

>> No.16637435

>>16637370
The threat to neoliberal capitalism comes from fascist states
>>16637375
imagine believing in rothschild propaganda this much
>>16637398
Bolivia is national socialist. Morales is an indigenous ethnonationalist
There are no nations that promote national socialism. Gadaffi funded national socialist groups worldwide but the ZOG killed him

>> No.16637440

>>16637427
oh you did mean that lol

>> No.16637446

>>16637435
>Morales is an ethnonationalist because people who were not from the country imperialized the nation. who is imperializing the european and the united states?

>> No.16637454

>>16637440
Hillarious, I know.

>> No.16637456

>>16637396
I hate to tell you this but your propaganda has been debunked. If you expand the term "bolshevik" to include everyone who participated in the October revolution then yes, they were a minority. But among the leadership they were the majority. The overwhelming majority of Russian jews supported them. They understood communism was their path to power.

>> No.16637463

>>16637435
You can thank the USSR for making Gaddafi possible then

>> No.16637464

>>16637446
>you can't be an indigenous bolivian ethnonationalist
leftists are retarded

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>>16637428
>yes racism is bad

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>>16637435
>Bolivia is national socialist. Morales is an indigenous ethnonationalis
Morales is gone, heminigger.

>There are no nations that promote national socialism.
If by nations you meant goverments and by national socialism you meant Nazism I could find you one.

>> No.16637480

>>16637466
who

>> No.16637483

>>16637435
What distinguishes fascism from ordinary right-wing patriarchal autocracies is the way it attempts to cultivate a revolutionary aura. Fascism offers a beguiling mix of revolutionary-sounding mass appeals and reactionary class politics. The Nazi party's full name was the National Socialist German Workers Party, a left-sounding name. As already noted, the SA storm troopers had a militant share-the-wealth strain in their ranks that was suppressed by Hitler after he took state power. History teaches us that all ruling elites try to portray themselves as the natural and durable social order, even ones that are in serious crisis, that threaten to devour their environmental base in order to continually recreate their hierarchical structure of power and privilege. And all ruling elites are scornful and intolerant of alternative viewpoints.
The Italian neofascists were learning from the U.S. reactionaries how to achieve fascism's class goals within the confines of quasi-democratic forms: use an upbeat, Reaganesque optimism; replace the jackbooted militarists with media-hyped crowd pleasers; convince people that government is the enemy - especially its social service sector - while strengthening the repressive capacities of the state; instigate racist hostility and antagonisms between the resident population and immigrants; preach the mythical virtues of the free market; and pursue tax and spending measures that redistribute income upward.

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16637484

>>16637456
>They understood communism was their path to power.
Yea..that explains why majority of Jews enrolled in the Menshevik gang. Fucking Amerimutts...

>> No.16637487

>>16637464
if your a country who has a history of being imperialized then yes. that is why i want a native American president

>> No.16637497

>>16637435
>The threat to neoliberal capitalism comes from fascist states
Like...what? Pinochets Chile, the beloved Child of neoliberal economists?

>> No.16637502

>>16637472
Ukraine?

>> No.16637503

>>16633001
the nazis lost the war and were humiliated and exterminated, its human nature to sneer at those who wave the flag of a pathetic defeated ideology fom 70 years ago. If the commies had lost the same way the nazis did it would simply be the other way around.
If tribe A dominates tribe B in warfare then humans will be disgusted by tribe B's humiliation in the same way you'd be disgusted by someone waving their sissy asshole in the air as a sign of submission

>> No.16637520

>>16637176
>rent free

>> No.16637528

>>16637036
looks like someone doesnt know what a liberal is.

marxists would agree with liberals (by virtue of not being brainlets) that sexism and racism are wrong but generally (due to Marx and Engel's emphasis on class reductionism and dialectics) would be more likely to label both as being umbrellaed under classism.

A core tenant of liberalism is the belief that free enterprise is sacrosanct, while Marxists and communists would deny the validity of private property rights (for a brief run through of that idea try reading Proudhon's what is property, an archist work on property rights)

just so you know for future reference Stephen Crowder and SJW owned compilations haven't equipped you with a working understanding of politics

>> No.16637531

>>16637275
>Leftists get slandered as anti-Semites again and again for criticizing israel.
That should tell them something

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16637532

>>16637502
Bingo, the NATO askaris funded by Jewish oligarch are the closest thing neo-nazis have to "being relevant".

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16637533

Friendly reminder Stalin would've gassed every single one of modern day commies.

>> No.16637534

>>16637503
And why did liberals choose to fight nazis in the first place? Why did they side with communists against nazis?

>> No.16637542

>>16637528
>brainlets
lol did you know that brain size correlates with IQ

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16637543

>>16632884
>modernism is over
I think I'll pass in favor of a more relevant school of though

>> No.16637544

>>16637533
>ussr symbol
>DNC
>Corporations
>Alphabet Agencies
Get out

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16637547

>>16637528
>A core tenant

>> No.16637548

>>16637532
apart from the ethnic replacement part of course

>> No.16637549

>>16637531
https://youtu.be/Kw7FJ9y8m4M

>> No.16637555

Anarchism is the true way to move forward. Trannies read Lenin because they are angry at the system and want to shoot people against the wall. They don't want to radically shift society and culture in a way that helps. When was the last time you saw a tranny doing mutual aid and not just wallowing in self pity?

>> No.16637556

>>16637532
Yeah I figured (not the original replier)

>> No.16637557

>>16637534
the nazis literally invaded countries

>> No.16637560

>>16637557
whereas the USSR definitely didn't invade anywhere

>> No.16637563

>>16637555
Anarchists are the embodiment of tranny politics retard

>> No.16637564

>>16637560
whataboutism at it's finest

>> No.16637567

>>16637557
So did everyone else lol, that's not a good enough reason by itself

>> No.16637569

>>16637534
>And why did liberals choose to fight nazis in the first place?
They didnt. The British wanted to have Hitler as a bulwark against USSR. But then they gave him Czechoslovakia only to realize that the beast got even hungrier.

>Why did they side with communists against nazis?
Basic rule of geopolitics. If there is three of you, gang up on the poor faggot in the middle.

>> No.16637571

>>16637382
Saved. Insane how poltards are so easily swayed against the one ideology that actually has a chance of defeating multinational capital/ globohomo just because muh jews.

>> No.16637579

>>16637569
>They didnt. The British wanted to have Hitler as a bulwark against USSR. But then they gave him Czechoslovakia only to realize that the beast got even hungrier.
No, it's because the British served other interests. Hitler had laid out his plans openly in his book, it's not like they were unaware of what he wanted and were suddenly surprised.

>> No.16637592

>>16637571
>the one ideology that actually has a chance of defeating multinational capital/ globohomo just because muh jews.
Newsflash, those are both owned by the same people.

>> No.16637599

>>16637564
>whataboutism
You are literally a fucking retard. You said the Nazis invading countries was the reason the liberals fought them, of course it's relevant if the other entity in question also did so, since that is the topic of discussion. I am actually annoyed by how fucking stupid you are

>> No.16637603

>>16637592
Jesus you are a dense mouthbreathing retard.

>> No.16637605

>>16637579
Hitler was a slimy snake, before subduing CSia he displayed very little agression against Poland and even seduced them into non-agression pact.

>> No.16637609

>>16637571
Communists barely ever talk about banks, which is extremely suspicious

>> No.16637612

>>16637548
Is that a military unit armed with heavy weaponry? No?

>> No.16637614

Unironically he was Vybz Kartel of his times.

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>>16637609
>Communists barely ever talk about banks

>> No.16637627 [DELETED] 

>>16637603
>Jesus you are a dense mouthbreathing retard.
>moutbreathing
Keep looking away, coward commie
>Hitler was a slimy snake, before subduing CSia he displayed very little agression against Poland and even seduced them into non-agression pact.
Sure, but he never hid what his intentions were. To say that they were surprised by what he did is very naive. They just needed a reason to destroy Hitler's Germany, as Churchill admitted.

>> No.16637629

>>16637599
Allies invaded Soviets in the 20s, they just gave up

>> No.16637636

>>16637612
I know you're baiting but ethnic replacement doesn't need to happen under forced threat. There's many other ways of making it happen without (too much) violence. You can't deny that ethnic Europeans are being replaced in their own countries, whether you agree on if it's intentional or not.

>> No.16637642

>>16637609
read Lenin
>The "Jacobins" of the twentieth century would not guillotine the capitalists - to follow a good example does not mean copying it. It would be enough to arrest fifty to a hundred financial magnates and bigwigs, the chief knights of embezzlement and of robbery by the banks. It would be enough to arrest them for a few weeks to expose their frauds and show all exploited people " who needs the war." Upon exposing the frauds of the banking barons, we could release them, placing the banks, the capitalist syndicates, and all the contractors "working" for the government under workers' control.
~Lenin
>Thus, in one way or another, the whole world is more or less the debtor to and vassal of these forn international banker countries, the four "pillars" of world finance capital.
~Lenin

>> No.16637643

>>16637603
>Jesus you are a dense mouthbreathing retard.
>moutbreathing
Keep looking away, coward commie

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>>16637592
A real socialist system (not that weak social democracy shit) would eliminate the power of the corporations and oligarchs who fund globohomo shit like the tranny/ lgbt nonsense. Immigration wouldn't be a problem either since there would be no more of the wars for oil or israel that make these migrants have to leave their countries in the first place. Mass immigration isn't a jewish plot its a capitalist plot to both create more cheap labor as well as create a more atomized society.

>> No.16637652

>>16637636
Anon...I was talking about neo-nazis as a political subject. About their organizations, not about their ideals. Where do you see neo-nazis being more relevant force than on the ukraine?

>> No.16637654

>>16637643
Read Lenin.
>Anti-Semitism means spreading enmity towards the Jews. When the accursed tsarist monarchy was living its last days it tried to incite ignorant workers and peasants against the Jews. The tsarist police, in alliance with the landowners and the capitalists, organised pogroms against the Jews. The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews. In other countries, too, we often see the capitalists fomenting hatred against the Jews in order to blind the workers, to divert their attention from the real enemy of the working people, capital. Hatred towards the Jews persists only in those countries where slavery to the landowners and capitalists has created abysmal ignorance among the workers and peasants. Only the most ignorant and downtrodden people can believe the lies and slander that are spread about the Jews. This is a survival of ancient feudal times, when the priests burned heretics at the stake, when the peasants lived in slavery, and when the people were crushed and inarticulate. This ancient, feudal ignorance is passing away; the eyes of the people are being opened. It is not the Jews who are the enemies of the working people. The enemies of the workers are the capitalists of all countries. Among the Jews there are working people, and they form the majority. They are our brothers, who, like us, are oppressed by capital; they are our comrades in the struggle for socialism. Among the Jews there are kulaks, exploiters and capitalists, just as there are among the Russians, and among people of all nations. The capitalists strive to sow and foment hatred between workers of different faiths, different nations and different races. Those who do not work are kept in power by the power and strength of capital. Rich Jews, like rich Russians, and the rich in all countries, are in alliance to oppress, crush, rob and disunite the workers. Shame on accursed tsarism which tortured and persecuted the Jews. Shame on those who foment hatred towards the Jews, who foment hatred towards other nations. Long live the fraternal trust and fighting alliance of the workers of all nations in the struggle to overthrow capital.

>> No.16637657
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16637657

Read Machajski.

>> No.16637658

>>16637605
>>16637605
Sure, but they were very much aware of his plans, so to pretend they were suddenly surprised by his actions is very naive. They just needed a reason to subdue Germany, as Churchill admitted.

>> No.16637668

>>16637534
Who gives a fuck, it was all about fat industrialists cucking politicians for money anyway, liberals are wiley maggots. if you think communists don't despise liberals even more than nazis you're retarded

>> No.16637671

>>16637658
>Sure, but they were very much aware of his plans,
No, they were not. As evidenced by their unprepardness to act when the time for actions came. Never underestimate British ignorance about Europe east of Rhine.

>> No.16637683

>>16637651
>A real socialist system (not that weak social democracy shit) would eliminate the power of the corporations and oligarchs who fund globohomo shit like the tranny/ lgbt nonsense. I
Perhaps, but socialism can only possibly work within a homogeneous society. So
>Immigration wouldn't be a problem either since there would be no more of the wars for oil or israel that make these migrants have to leave their countries in the first place.
There are many more reasons for immigration, so that alone wouldn't solve the problem. Plus, communism is universalistic, therefore it's inevitable that it will try to erase ethnic/cultural divides as well. Especially given who the people usually in power are.
>Mass immigration isn't a jewish plot its a capitalist plot to both create more cheap labor as well as create a more atomized society.
You're wrong there, those aren't mutually exclusive. They're both true, but while capitalists are working for short term gains, the elite jews work for long term projects that span multiple lifetimes.

>> No.16637685

>>16637497
>pinochet
>fascist
OH NO NO NO
>>16637483
Hitler was a socialist
https://national-justice.com/opinion-and-analysis/people-versus-plutocrats-hitlers-anti-capitalist-legacy

>> No.16637696

>>16637671
>No, they were not.
You're either ignorant or very naive. His plans weren't a secret, and both Churchill and the crown were advised by jewish individuals who definitely knew what he was planning.
>As evidenced by their unprepardness to act when the time for actions came. Never underestimate British ignorance about Europe east of Rhine.
That's because it was in the end a war to destroy Europe, not just Germany, and the British were also just pawns.

>> No.16637700

>>16637685
>OH NO NO NO
That was sort of my point.

>> No.16637701

>>16637654
No, you misunderstand jews. Communism is a form of atheistic judaism. Read more than just Lenin and you'll have a better understanding.

>> No.16637708

>>16637652
Stop sperging, they're very relevant in Western Europe because it's the only ideology standing up for the rights of the natives.

>> No.16637717

>>16637696
>Churchill
Mind I remind you that it was Neville Chamberlaine who was responsible for putting Britain into the situation?

>His plans weren't a secret
Oh right, that time when he posted Fall Weiss on his Reichbuch account.

>That's because it was in the end a war to destroy Europe, not just Germany, and the British were also just pawns.
What can I say. If gods seek to punish us, who are we but pawns in their divine game.

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OH NO NO NO
MARXISTS BTFO
MARX DESTROYED

>> No.16637722

>>16637708
>they're very relevant in Western Europe
Care to name the particular organizations, military units and the way they are supported either by oligarchy, goverments or the NATO?

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>>16637700
Imagine thinking pinochet was anywhere close to a fascist

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>>16637685
>Hitler was a socialist
>national-justice.com
you mutts never fail to amaze me

>> No.16637740

>>16637717
>Mind I remind you that it was Neville Chamberlaine who was responsible for putting Britain into the situation?
If you think Churchill did nothing while that was happening, you're retarded
>Oh right, that time when he posted Fall Weiss on his Reichbuch account.
Except that he wrote a book which was translated and the contents well known by intelligence
>What can I say. If gods seek to punish us, who are we but pawns in their divine game.
show your nose

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>>16637701
yes, look at this picture. Look at all these atheist jews.

>> No.16637751

>>16637730
>gets btfo
>has no response
OH NO NO NO

>> No.16637752

>>16637720
Fake family tree

>> No.16637755

>>16637749
It's a religion that can be adapted to other circumstances as well just like any religion, genius

>> No.16637758

>>16637724
Yes, anon. Thats exactely where I was going. There were no real fascist states left when neoliberalism became a thing. Closest things was shit like Pinochet, Greek Junta or the the two dying regimes in Iberia that were perfectly alligned with neoliberalism.

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>>16637751
The response is in the image retard, the political economy of nazi germany did in no way resemble socialism

>> No.16637771

>>16637740
>If you think Churchill did nothing while that was happening
I´m pretty sure he was at least getting drunk. But he was not the dominant figure.
>Except that he wrote a book which was translated and the contents well known by intelligence
Hol´up, the neonazis on this site told me that there is no intention of conquering slavic land in MK. Were they lying?
>show your nose
Your chin first.

>> No.16637788

>>16632884
here we go again

>> No.16637792

>>16637771
>I´m pretty sure he was at least getting drunk. But he was not the dominant figure.
Cope, not bothering if you're being willfully ignorant
>Hol´up, the neonazis on this site told me that there is no intention of conquering slavic land in MK. Were they lying?
Hitler was very clear about which areas he wanted to annex, including Sudetenland and the corridor. Stop being disingenuous.
>Your chin first.
thanks for confirming, schlomo

>> No.16637797

>>16637685
The word privatization was literally invented to describe Nazi policies of transferring ownership of public services to private companies. During the war, they even went so far as to use forced concentration camp labor for private companies like Volkswagen. If you think that's socialism /pol/ or /his/ might be better suited for you than /lit/.
>>16637701
Name one thing they have in common.

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>>16637544
>he doesn't know

>> No.16637802

>>16637792
>Hitler was very clear about which areas he wanted to annex, including Sudetenland and the corridor.
Was he also clear about annexing mainland Bohemia and Moravia?

>> No.16637805

>>16637797
>Name one thing they have in common.
I'll give you two, worship of ressentiment and jewish supremacy.

>> No.16637806

>>16637800
Show me single article from CNN or TNYT that is positive about USSR.

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>>16637755
It's a political ideology, a socioeconomic system. Stop try to mystify shit pseud.

>> No.16637816

>>16637802
Stop trying to derail, your suggestion that the Brits were unaware of what Hitler would do is ridiculous, they were well aware of his plans and just needed a reason to declare war.

>> No.16637822

>>16637810
>It's a political ideology, a socioeconomic system. Stop try to mystify shit pseud.
I'm sorry, I didn't know you were retarded. I'll let you get back to your RIchard Dawkins.

>> No.16637830

>>16637816
The Brits were obviously hoping he’d deal with their common enemy to the East.

>> No.16637840

>>16637816
Please answer the question: Was he also clear about annexing mainland Bohemia and Moravia?

If the answer was "Yes" than it would contradict official Nazi diplomacy that explicitely denied so, saying "We dont want no Czechs."

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>>16637797
>During the war, they even went so far as to use forced concentration camp labor for private companies like Volkswagen.

Allies used forced labor in Japanese internment camps and rubber plantations in Brazil.

You benefit from forced labor in most of the consumer products you own. Especially the device you just posted with.

>> No.16637848

>>16637730
>Lots of words
As expected.

>> No.16637850

>>16637830
You can't be this ignorant.

>> No.16637863

>>16637720
> look! they're related by someone born in 1710 therefore they must be colluding together.
Retard
> Communism is bad because there has to be a central bank and there will be Jews speculating on that.
Yeah we totally avoided that, and we in addition to that we have Jews literally everywhere else. Also a communist system would make it impossible for muh jews to accumulate the wealth necessary to make all these "crooked deals" we totally avoided with capitalism.

>> No.16637914

>>16637382
I like this chart but Lenin was ethicnicly Jewish but it was reveled after his death

>> No.16637922

>>16637914
>ethicnicly
What does that mean? It seems like "ethnically", but then the sentence would be factually wrong.

>> No.16637926

>>16637914
That's the issue, their true character always shines through even if they're not aware themselves or renounce it

>> No.16637931

>>16637843
>Allies used forced labor in Japanese internment camps and rubber plantations in Brazil.
We know, because they're capitalist.
>You benefit from forced labor in most of the consumer products you own. Especially the device you just posted with.
We know, because capitalism will exploit workers however it can just to expand already enormous profit margins.
> le epic onions meme
Capitalism/consumerism is the whole reason all this horrible funko pop and Nintendo switch shit exists in the first place. Never seen a post BTFO itself as effectively as this one lmao.

>> No.16637941

>>16637770
>didnt read the link i sent
oh no no no

>> No.16637944

>>16637806
That wasn't the point of the meme you originally responded to.

People who wear hammer & sickles and call themselves communists agree with global capitalism on every social issue. In theory they may disagree about economics. But they're only mobilized when they agree with capitalism.

>> No.16637946

>>16637758
Gadaffi was the only fascist state . pinochet was nowhere near a fascist, midwit

>> No.16637962

>>16637944
>call themselves communists

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>>16637931
I was BTFOing your reductio-ad-Nhatzees argument, and defending the Reich's wartime production polices.

Stop consuming søy and watching porn.

>> No.16637979

>>16637822
Go jerk of to some sigils you worthless degenerate.
>Muh communism is somehow connected to jews which connected to absolute evil.
Your argument is complete shit and just a retarded mystification for ignorant people. You have no argument other than evoking 'muh Jew' which is just an easy scapegoat.

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>>16637797
>>16637931
>dude fascism is capitalist even though the capitalists united with the communists to fight the fascists and fascism is the most reviled and hated ideology in modern capitalist nations today
OH NO NO NO

>> No.16637986

>>16637962
No one cares about the shiboleths of a regime that's been dead for thirty years. Grow up and stop fetishising corpses.

>> No.16637990

>>16637914
He was more swedish than jewish, there was some grandparent that was jewish I think.

>> No.16637998

>>16637931
The Soviets used forced labor too. Were they capitalist?

>> No.16638006

You know its one fag shilling his leninoid dogma because he always posts the same shitty memes and arguments even after he gets btfo over and over.

>> No.16638009

>>16637984
>the capitalists united with the communists
Only after it became clear that the Nazis were no match against the soviet bvlls, Stalin tried many times to contact the allies to fight the Nazis but they ignored him.

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>>16638006
kek, 'muh jews' is an BTFO in a /pol/yps eyes.

>> No.16638048

>>16638009
>Only after it became clear that the Nazis were no match against the soviet bvlls
Do you live in an alternate reality? The USSR would’ve been fucked without the allies

>> No.16638065

>>16637986
China

>> No.16638076

>collaborate with anglos to invade Iran for oil
>allies with fascists to invade and occupy other countries
>invade and take over the baltic states for no reason other than that they were in the way of harbors and economic expansion
>export grain for profit while millions of people starve
>set up forced labour camps
>invade countries who recently gained independence and incorporate them into your empire
>suppress the culture and autonomy of ethnic minorities, deport them en mass for resisting
>steal all of east germany’s industry and import back to your country
>guyz we’re totally not imperialists!1!1!

>> No.16638100

>>16638048
Starting in 1933, with the rise of the Nazi party in Germany, Stalin began to industrialize the USSR for war. Having reportedly read Hitler's Mein Kampf, Stalin knew exactly what Adolf Hitler's plans for Europe and the World were, and spent most of the 1930s repeatedly petitioning the French, British and Polish Governments to form an Anti-Fascist alliance and preemptively destroy the Nazi threat before it became too powerful. Hitler and Stalin spent the 1930s denouncing each other, as each built up their respective nations for War. During the Munich Crisis of 1937, Stalin threatened to Invade Germany if Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia, and likewise, Hitler formalized the Anti-Comintern Pact between Various nations throughout Europe to specifically spite Stalin's antifascist efforts. Nevertheless, Stalin's repeated petitions to the League of Nations and Western Europe proved fruitless. And, a few days before Germany invaded Poland, Stalin sent a mission to Germany to formalize a non-aggression pact with Germany, much like the one they'd made with Japan. The infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact assured that neither Germany nor the USSR would attack each other for a period of ten years (which both sides knew was not going to last) but also contained numerous secret clauses: The USSR would not interfere with Germany's conquest of Europe, and Germany would not interfere with the USSR if they were to retake numerous territories lost to them in the aftermath of the Russian Civil War - Particularly Karelia, near Finland, the Baltic States of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, Bessabarabia (Moldova) in Romania; and the territories of Brest and Grodno (occupied by Poland but historically a part of Belarus) and numerous territories claimed by Western Ukraine but occupied by Poland. When World War II started, both sides adhered to the treaty, and two weeks after the Invasion of Poland the USSR occupied their claimed territories. In 1940 the Soviets annexed the Baltics and occupied Bessabarabia (Moldova) and went to war with Finland over Karelia in what became the rather disastrous Winter War of 1939-40.

The time bought by the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact served valuable for the USSR, it allowed them to complete the construction of the Stalin line and move precious industry to the Ural Mountains, far out of reach from the Germans. Soviet generals estimated the USSR would be ready for war with Germany by October 1942, but, they were not granted this luxury and Germany invaded on 22 June 1941.

>> No.16638153

>>16638048
All of the allies combined were 10% of the Soviet war effort. This is a historic fact.

>> No.16638184

>>16637520
just fucking stop nigger

>> No.16638191

>>16638009
>bvlls
Stop watching porn

>>16638065
The CCP doesn't care about USSR shiboleths either.

>> No.16638233

>>16638076
>Second Anglo-Boer war concentration camps
>Rheinwiesenlager concentration camps
>over a million dead in each: deliberate policy of extermination through starvation & exposure
>GUYS WE TOTALLY SAVED THE JEWS FROM THOSE GENOCIDAL MANIACS

>> No.16638239

>>16638153
Zhukov would beg to differ

>> No.16638255

>>16637238
Based

>> No.16638263

>>16638191
They do to the extent they don't want to end up like them. Beyond that, yeah not at all probably. And?

>> No.16638273

why not just give communism a try before dismissing it out of hand

>> No.16638475

>>16632884
Didn't the Marxist-Leninist ideology failed literally everywhere !?

>> No.16638478

Okay, where do I start with him?

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>>16638478
I would say here

>> No.16638607

>>16638475
China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam

>> No.16638698

>>16638607
>China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam
three toilets and a capitalist superpower

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>>16638698
I think you underestimate how much of chinese industry is nationalized:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_China

>> No.16639704

>>16632884
No wonder this website is known as being full of weirdos and creeps. Look at the nonsense you's want to read.

>> No.16639807

>>16639704
Shut up pseud, Lenin was highly influential and his theories regarding imperialism are fundamental for understanding geopolitics and international relations.