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My brother wants to convert to the Church of Latter-Day Saints. He says he feels more spiritually involved with it than the normal Protestant Christianity he and I grew up with. I personally think a lot of it is just made up and Catholicism would be a better choice, but I also lean towards Perennialism and don't think theology or rationality is as important as spiritually and results. Islam is also probably made up and Paul created modern Christianity out of thin air but they have value because of doctrine.

What is /lit/'s view? Is the Book of Mormon valuable theologically? Will believing in its contents damn a Christian?

>> No.16613966

I don't know I'm not religious

>> No.16613987

>>16613932
>don't think theology or rationality is as important as spiritually and results
possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read
but considering that you don't think rationality is that important, just do whatever feels right, that's more or less what you want

>> No.16613990

>>16613932
Any group that maintains real initiatic ritual is okay in my book, but Joseph Smith was probably just cribbing that from Freemasonry. I think their churches are ugly. They're a commercialized, protestant parody of catholic grandiosity.

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>>16613932
The only thing anyone should care about.

>> No.16614001

Read under the banner of Heaven

>> No.16614038

Mormons are fine people, and I admire them. Your brother will be in good company if he goes through with it. They are honest, kind, industrious, and all around upstanding people.

Mormonism as a doctrine is farcical, and is poorly cobstructed. Smith was obviously a conman and didn't have any higher intellectual ideals or aims. Worse, it doesn't go far enough in any direction. It's not a new, fourth Abrahamic religion. It's not just "hardcore prottyism", nor is it "absolutely whacky desert mysticism". It posits itself as neither new nor old. It's vying for Catholicism in filling the role of the "straight man" in the duet with the WOKE crowd. It's church leadership is a literal actual cult in the "exists to steal money from rubes" sense.

It and Catholicism will probably end up in a Mithraism and Eleusianism scenario eventually, drowned under the sea of even weirder cults and sects.

>> No.16614058

>>16613987
Rationality has no claim to being inherently good. There is no value in it besides that which it brings forth. And given it's fundamental inadequacy and the inability of human rationalism to be all-explaining I think belief in what works or feels good on a moral, spiritual level is more important than belief in what should work or what I should think is true based on faulty human intuition.
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>>16613990
I sorta think they're goofy but good people, I just wanna make sure he's not so doctrinally insane that he's guaranteed to miss out on salvation

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>>16613999
>Mormon good because Red Team Good
If you're picking a religion based on the political beliefs of its followers, then you're not treating it as a faith but as a social club.

>> No.16614086

>>16614038
That's my sense, even he admits it's doctrinally whacky but he says he feels good about it so he's willing to overlook some stuff. I guess most religions at the end of the day can't meet demands for 100% veracity and they're all made up by someone at some point. His gf (probably future wife) is Mormon so I'm that plays a role, I think it seems a good idea to share a religion with your spouse and raise your kids in it and I don't think she'd convert to any other form of Christianity my brother might end up preferring

>> No.16614094

>>16614064
That's exactly what a religion is for

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>>16614094
That is a depressing way of seeing things.

>> No.16614142

>>16614126
That's life for you

>> No.16614148

>>16613932
If you read the Bible as Divine Word, the Book of Mormon is a miracle and the continuation of the tale that is left off in the Book of Revelations. Christ’s return is preached in the Bible and manifest in the Book of Mormon to the early Americans, who had arrived on the continent via a submarine across the Atlantic hundreds of years previously after a couple brothers escape from the destruction of Babylon. One even sees gods flesh body reach out of the clouds to give his light bulbs some light for the sea voyage.

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>>16614094
The true purpose of religion is to shepherd the soul with certainty unto the higher dimensional existences that may be reached when one is separated from the temporary flesh vessel on a truly Good (in the Platonic sense) frequency of being

>> No.16614169

>>16613932

Converting to Mormonism is less about Mormon theology and more about joining Mormons. Mormons are based and I'm actually pretty skeptical about whether 80% of them have at least 15% understanding of the doctrine.

>> No.16614214

>>16614169
Sweet, sounds like they're based retards and he'll be happy. Wish I could be but fuckin /lit/ makes me think too much and I can't make up my mind or fully commit to anything

>> No.16614232

>>16613932
What he wants is a nigger free afterlife.

>> No.16614276

Joeseph Smith Plagiarized The War of 1812 almost ad verbatim, seer stoned his way into court, got chased out of Missouri when he started his own currency, and would "consummate" his "sealings" to other women even though his wife Emma would not let him get proper married

Brigham Young was the one who took Josephs excuse to fuck bitches make money cult and turned into the major US RELIGION it is today

>> No.16614282

>>16613932
It's the community that's attracting him. They could believe in The Matrix and it would still draw him because they're all super nice to him.