/SpGT/ Spanish General Thread

[Anonymous No.16611030]

Julio Cortázar edition

Welcome to the official thread for Spanish /lit/erature. Feel free to contribute with reviews on your favourite authors, books, fragments, own works (so we can criticize them :), new editions or publications, and the like...

>Websites with Spanish e-books:
https://pastebin.com/QpcU8gjG
>Torrent with +70000 ebooks in spanish:
https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=35208945
>Useful youtube channels:
https://pastebin.com/mqcBy9J0
>Read Teillier's poetry here:
https://www.uchile.cl/cultura/teillier/

Previous thread (deleted by FAGGOT COCKSUCKING JANNIES): >>/lit/thread/S16599371

[Anonymous No.16611157]

How come jannies are deleting this threads now? Weren't they allowed?

[Anonymous No.16611167]

Just bought Hopscotch recently. My only other experience with Spanish language lit is Marquez and Rulfo. Looking forward to diving deeper

[Anonymous No.16611172]

>>16611167
Based. Enjoy it, mate.

[Anonymous No.16611208]

Bros, not gonna lie. I could learn Spanish quite easily, I live just down the street from a Spanish school. The thing is Portuguese is so similar that I don't even bother with the original and just assume the translation will be "close enough". I know they're not the same, and with some shorter books I just read them in Spanish anyway. Do you feel the same about reading Pessoa or Machado de Assis?

[Anonymous No.16611239]

>>16611208
I have read Pessoa's poetry in Portuguese but I don't know enough Portuguese to read his prose comfortably so I just read him in Spanish (also because that's what's available in the book shops I buy from)-

[Anonymous No.16611273]

Hey, Philipp Mainländer anon, I found new information about the Alianza and Xorki's editions.

You're right, Xorki is the "complete" edition (1 volume of 2 translated to spanish) and the Alianza is an anthology, but with extra content that isn't found in the Xorki edition.

Source: Some dude with a blog that have both editions. Check the comments section.

https://elvuelodelalechuza.com/2014/03/17/philipp-mainlander-filosofia-de-la-redencion/

More info about the Xorki edition:

https://www.academia.edu/36871293/Filosofia_de_la_redencion

[Anonymous No.16611287]

>>16611208
Not at all. I wished I knew Portuguese to read Pessoa in the original (and also all Brazilian, Portuguese and Lusophone African literature). The best I can do is bilingual editions to at least parse the original.

>>16611273
Indeed. That's why Xorki is better for a first reading, and later, if so inclined, the Alianza one.

[Anonymous No.16611290]

>>16611030
Cuáles son las mejores novelas realistas/sociales de Latinoamérica ?
Siempre que pienso en Sudamérica solo me viene a la mente el realismo mágico

[Anonymous No.16611296]

>>16611287
>Lusophone African literature
waste of time

[Anonymous No.16611301]

>>16611290
¿Sudarmérica o Latinoamérica? Decídase, mi estimado.

[Anonymous No.16611306]

>>16611290
>realismo mágico

[Anonymous No.16611347]

What's your opinion about "children's literature"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoGVq4aMf2w

[Anonymous No.16611351]

>>16611290
realismo mágico are the best

[Anonymous No.16611366]

>>16611301
Perdón, Sudamérica. no pongo a Mexico dentro del realismo mágico porque creo que sus novelas son diferentes, aunque tal vez Fuentes y Pedro Páramo cuentan.

[Anonymous No.16611374]

>>16611290
Conversation in the Cathedral by Mario Vargas Llosa
The Seven Madmen by Roberto Arlt
On Heroes and Tombs by Ernesto Sabato
2666 and The Savage Detectives by Bolaño
Onetti, Saer, and so on...

[Anonymous No.16611377]

>>16611347
I think it can be good literature. Think of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Treasure Island, The Wind in the Willows, The Secret Garden, etc.

[Anonymous No.16611396]

Daily reminder that there's no such thing as "realismo mágico"

[Anonymous No.16611409]

>>16611396
Explain this, then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_realism

[Anonymous No.16611421]

>>16611290
La obra de José Revueltas. El apando y también sus cuentos.

[Anonymous No.16611430]

>>16611409
Read this
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-magical-realism/?fbclid=IwAR1jfjsED30Zv-YDmpJ7OGb-bHQ_K5wTO0uRydugPhYiqOaUbGHsxZxeXCk#_ednref9

[Anonymous No.16611503]

>>16611430
>Vargas Llosa may have made, in recent decades, a strong attempt at destroying his oeuvre and reputation as a writer, with his at times infantile interpretation of liberalism and his often reactionary opinion pieces that remind one of the “Old Man Yells at a Cloud” meme,...

>Would someone else, say a European or Anglo-American writer, be called a magical realist if he wrote about people who snort Bosnian cocaine until they start speaking Bosnian, or they masturbate into disappearance, as I have written, to earn the label?

Sad.

[Anonymous No.16611509]

>>16611503
>reactionary

[Anonymous No.16611514]

>>16611509
vargas llosa is not a reactionary he's just a retard.
t. read "la llamada de la tribu"

[Anonymous No.16611515]

José Zorrilla es muy basado.
Don Juan Tenorio es una de las obras cumbre de la literatura hispana.
Ampliamente recomendado leer al de Valladolid, anons.

[Anonymous No.16611520]

>>16611509
Eh?

[Anonymous No.16611525]

>>16611208
I think I ought to learn Portuguese. Feels weird sharing a Peninsula with a country whose tongue I ignore. It also bothers me how Portuguese speakers have an easier time understanding Spanish than the other way around.

[Anonymous No.16611529]

>>16611520
Sorry, I meant it for the guy who shared the link.

[Anonymous No.16611533]

>>16611290
*Hispanoamérica
FTFY

[Anonymous No.16611542]

>>16611525
Because Spanish is clearer and it's pronounced closer to the the way it's written than Portuguese.

[Anonymous No.16611735]

Anybody know where I can find the works of Gustavo Bueno in physical form? No way I’m reading 400 pages of PDFs.

[Anonymous No.16611769]

>>16611735
Just print it. Where do you live?

[Anonymous No.16611771]

>>16611735
If you live in Singapore, Philippines or Indonesia, you can order them at Amazon.jp.
If you live in Antarctica, you can get them at the South African kiosk. Take provisions and a few pack dogs for the trip.

[Anonymous No.16611889]

>>16611515
Grandisimo hombre, tenes toda la razon.

[Anonymous No.16611905]

>>16611030
¿Cuáles son sus poemas "largos" favoritos? (Algo así como The Rime of the Ancient Mariner)
Me avergüenza saber más de poesía anglosajona que poesía castellana.

[Anonymous No.16611923]

>>16611769
US. I’ll print some of his essays I suppose. Oh well, at least I get to have a physical copy of Crítica de la razón literaria. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.16611936]

>>16611923
>Oh well, at least I get to have a physical copy of Crítica de la razón literaria
Rich boy. Don't forget to send a photo of it to Maestro via email so he makes a post about your photo on facebook.

[Anonymous No.16611942]

>>16611905
Altazor
Piedra de sol
Las soledades
Martín Fierro

[Anonymous No.16611947]

Thoughts on Chupe de Verga's Arte nuevo de hacer comedia?

[Anonymous No.16611954]

>>16611167
I fucking hate the protagonist so much. I always stop reading due to the guy being an insufferable cunt. A friend told me that the book gets better once he goes to Argentina.

[Anonymous No.16611977]

>>16611905
Sindbad el varado
Canto a un dios mineral
Muerte sin fin
Primero sueño

Mexican poetry has a lot of them

[Anonymous No.16611978]

>>16611936
Not even bro. I manage a coffee shop and make ok money. However, my only expenses other than the essentials are books, which at the end of the day ends up being much cheaper than cable, Netflix accounts, electronics, etc.

I wish I could take all of my savings and to study with based Maestro. I doubt he’d give a fuck about my emails though. Dude is done with life after publishing la Crítica, and rightfully so.

[Anonymous No.16611979]

>>16611290
AAAAAAA he recomendado demasiadas veces a Manuel Scorza. Antes de morir escribió la serie La Guerra Silenciosa. El primer libro es "Redoble por Rancas", es corto e interesante. Trata de la época previa a la Reforma agraria del Perú. Es interesante a nivel sociedad pues muestra algunas de las razones para la actual prole Peruana y lo que desencadeno el terrorismo de los 90s

[Anonymous No.16611981]

>>16611977
>Muerte sin fin
BASADO

[Anonymous No.16611990]

>>16611978
>I wish I could take all of my savings and to study with based Maestro. I doubt he’d give a fuck about my emails though. Dude is done with life after publishing la Crítica, and rightfully so.
Nah, he publishes the photos his readers send him. Check out his facebook.

[Anonymous No.16612110]

>>16611157
Probably because one of you "white brazillians" started spamming Maestro shit.

[Anonymous No.16612116]

>>16611978
>done with life
>still sperges out on YouTube every chance he gets
Dangerously based

[Anonymous No.16612119]

>>16612110
Not at all. I was there. It was because people started writing in mostly just Spanish.

[Anonymous No.16612130]

>Yo no hablo "castellano". Yo hablo ESPAÑOL.
Lo más basado que ha dicho Maestro.

[Anonymous No.16612155]

what am I in for, lads?

[Anonymous No.16612171]

>>16612155
wtf is the cover

[Anonymous No.16612178]

>>16612155
Nostalgia, anxiety, sadness, soul. Read it slowly. One piece of it everyday to savour it, rather than reading it all at once.

[Anonymous No.16612199]

>>16611905
El Cantar de Mio Cid is ok, better than expected considering how hard weird old spanish is

[Anonymous No.16612209]

>>16612199
>we will never read those first two pages that it lacks

[Anonymous No.16612241]

>>16612171
just a lantern, I guess.
>>16612178
yeah I think I'll read a page or two after or before my other daily lecture. I get tired of reading the same thing for days in a row.

[Anonymous No.16612413]

>>16612130
Que macho que es este tío. No conozco a un tipo más valiente.

[Anonymous No.16612422]

>>16612116
It’s pure entertainment to him. The man annihilates *nglos for fun.

[Anonymous No.16612438]

>>16612119
It's not the first thread that devolved into mainly Spanish posting, but if you combine that with a bunch of teens spamming Maestro everywhere and calling out the angl*s, you're going to attract more reports, and random mods and jannies being called to action.

[Anonymous No.16612446]

>>16612438
Literally no one posted Maestro things in that thread. Stop being bootlicker.

[Anonymous No.16612474]

>>16612446
>spamming Maestro everywhere
Reading comprehension is not your forte, huh?

[Anonymous No.16612502]

>>16612474
>deleting a thread because what happened elsewhere in the board
Logic is not your forte, is it, nigger? The thread was deleted because all the last posts were in Spanish.

[Anonymous No.16612666]

>>16612502
Yes, people will see Maestro spamming elsewhere and know it's exclusively done by faggots in this general, so they might have reported it out of spite. Mods in this board don't do anything unless people report threads.
I also cited 3 possible reasons, one having to do with posting in Spanish. Some of these 3 might be wrong, but having a wrong thesis is better than having such a poor reading comprehension as you.

Now go fuck yourself, you edgy cunt.

[Anonymous No.16612673]

>>16612666
Nice trick Satan

[Anonymous No.16612704]

>>16612666
All the last posts being in Spanish is the only true reason. We've had Meastro-posting and anti-anglo shitposting for weeks. Threads are judged individually.

[Anonymous No.16613682]

Cuál es la mejor traducción de la Iliada en español
la que estoy leyendo no tiene mucho sentido

[Anonymous No.16613973]

>>16611905
Clarivigilia Primaveral

[Anonymous No.16613979]

>>16613682
segalá

[Anonymous No.16614099]

>>16612130
in mexico stating the opposite induces cringe

[Anonymous No.16614240]

>>16611030
First time poster here in /lit/ glad I found this thread since I'm from south america, I would like to start reading again, any recommendations? I'm mostly looking for books regarding psychology or novels that would seem interesting

>>16611030

[Anonymous No.16614284]

>>16614240
Anything by Sábato

[Anonymous No.16614328]

>>16611979
Basado anon peruano, acá otro compatriota, Scorza es realmente olvidado en la literatura en general, aún más que Arguedas lo cual siempre consideré raro ya que Scorza tiene un appeal mucho más amplio para el público extranjero

[Anonymous No.16614834]

>>16612199
is it? I barely understand every other word.

[Anonymous No.16614872]

Es Sabato un buen autor?
Me he negado a leerlo desde que mi ex publico una foto suya leyendo ensayo sobre la ceguera. Pero un amigo que estudian literatura me recomendó El Túnel así que ya no se

[Anonymous No.16614875]

>>16614872
>Es Sabato un buen autor?
Sí. Lee El túnel. Igual es corto.

[Anonymous No.16614878]

>>16611514
You're a retard, not him.

[Anonymous No.16615081]

What is the most based editorial and why is it picrel?

[Anonymous No.16615089]

>>16614878
seethe

[Anonymous No.16615098]

>>16615089
>commie
you self-refuted yourself.

[Anonymous No.16615118]

*dabs on lope*

[Anonymous No.16615129]

>>16615118
*dabs on góngora*

[Anonymous No.16615134]

>>16615118
>>16615129
>pnches hombres necios

[Anonymous No.16615152]

>>16615134
*worships sor juana*

[Anonymous No.16615157]

>>16615152
who wouldnt desu

[Anonymous No.16615176]

>>16611273
That "dude" is the editor of both editions lmao.
He has also published an anthology of Schopenhauer's aphorisms on Alianza.

[Anonymous No.16615186]

>You Guys! Im also a gr8 poet! Lets all be part of the Poetic League of Justice and fight all the bad poets!

[Anonymous No.16615189]

>>16615081
Most of Kawabata's translations by these hacks are Jap -> English -> Spanish translations. I'd bet Mishima suffered the same fate.

[Anonymous No.16615195]

>>16615189
No, the Mishima ones are done directly from the Japanese from what I've seen. They're done by a Spanish translator and a Japanese woman in most cases.

[Anonymous No.16615218]

>>16614872
>Sábato
>Ensayo sobre la ceguera

?????????????

>>16615189
Same with Siruela. They have interesting titles (Tanizaki's works, Mishima's, Paprika, etc.) but are all translations of translations. Atalaya's edition of the Genji Monogatari has exactly the same problem.
If you want to read a translation from the original japanese you need to read Satori's titles.

[Anonymous No.16615223]

some STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT JANNY WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO just deleted all the spanish posts

[Anonymous No.16615226]

>>16614872
En Argentina, en mi época de bachiller, El Túnel se leía en secundaria para pegar existencialismo (El Extranjero) con Lit Argentina.
Lo leí por segunda vez hace unos años y me pareció un libro más mediocre de lo que lo recordaba. Lo mejor que tiene es el perfil psicológico del protagonista, como un Dostoievski menor, monotemático y mal traducido. Creo que es lo único interesante del libro. La mujer es de cartón, igual que los otros personajes. No profesa ninguna filosofía de Sábato, ni por lejos.

A Borges no le gustaba lo que escribía Sábato y trato de no viciarme con sus opiniones. Algún día leeré Sobre Héroes y Tumbas y Abbadon..., pero sin apuro. Lo otro que leí de Sábato fue La Resistencia. Una estupidez de viejo amargo reaccionando contra las nuevas costumbres. Un capítulo trata de por qué no se vela (cuando fallecen) más a las personas como se las velaba antes.

[Anonymous No.16615229]

>>16615218
>Atalaya
It's Atalanta.

[Anonymous No.16615235]

FUCKING JANNIES SUCK OUR COLLECTIVE COCK

[Anonymous No.16615240]

>>16612666
>>16612110
>>16612438
>>16612474
dude, you have a wird fixiation with that Maestro spammer, don't you

[Anonymous No.16615245]

>>16615235
Honestly, one of the only threads that actually discusses literature

[Anonymous No.16615250]

>>16615218
Impedimenta and Gredos algo have a bunch of modern classic Jap lit with direct translations.

[Anonymous No.16615251]

>>16615235
I was right!!!!!!!!!!111

This faggot can suck it:>>16612438

[Anonymous No.16616052]

¿Qué edición del Criticón es la mejor y dónde la consigo?

[Anonymous No.16616276]

>>16615235
>>16615223
They do it for free

[Anonymous No.16616646]

>>16615218
Ptmr por alguna razón confundí a Sabato con Saramago. Y no sólo hoy lmao llevo confundiéndolo por algo así de un año lmao

>>16615226
Oka, le daré un ojo de todas maneras. Ahora que no tengo aquel mental fart

[Anonymous No.16616737]

>>16615235
didn't someone say a few threads back that modd green lighted spanish posts?
obviously that's not the case but I wonder if it was and they changed their minds (why?), or if it was never the case.

[Anonymous No.16616841]

>>16616646
Sabato's text is called Informe sobre ciegos kek so it's possible to be confused

[Anonymous No.16616846]

>>16616737
it was the case for some time. we've had threads with plenty of Spanish. but maybe a /pol/tard janny is in charge this week

[Anonymous No.16617559]

>>16615152
what did he write about her?

[Anonymous No.16617875]

>>16611030
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQfWvTyjuK-eF3auwC_DmDQ

feria del libro de oaxaca

[Anonymous No.16617893]

>>16614834
that's why it's full of references. i enjoyed it, the references also gave you lots of details about the context of the era and such. and i'm galician so I noticed how some things that look galician existed in old spanish, and more or less understand how that language diverged into 2, modern galician and modern spanish

[Anonymous No.16617900]

>>16615129
did they really use those glasses back then? how did they not fall off constantly without reaching the ear

[Anonymous No.16617904]

Am I the only one obsessed with Poet on New York?

[Anonymous No.16617955]

>>16617559
He wrote a 600~ page essay on her. It's ok.

[Anonymous No.16618106]

>>16617893
>more or less understand how that language diverged into 2, modern galician and modern spanish
That's not really what happened though. It's true that old spanish and Galician-Portuguese were much more similar but even then they were already different languages.

[Anonymous No.16618119]

>>16617559
A very good essay. They even made a film in Argentina based on it.

[Anonymous No.16618125]

>>16617904
Probably. I don't like the title nor the setting so I never read it.

[Anonymous No.16618562]

New lecture on the Fundación Gustavo Bueno
https://youtu.be/e3A-udlDxKk

[Anonymous No.16618592]

>>16618125
I think you should try it

[Anonymous No.16618651]

>>16615186
>t. didn't understand the Viaje