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What languages must I know to escape plebdom?

>> No.16597015

>>16596982
English
French
Mandarin
Spanish
Italian
Latin
Attic Greek

>> No.16597027

Greek, Latin, Akkadian, Phoenician, Hebrew, Arabic, Farsi, Sanskrit, Japanese, Chinese, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Occitan, German, Russian, and Anglo-Saxon

>> No.16597036
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16597036

>>16596982
the true endgame is huttese

>> No.16597059

>>16596982
With just two modern european languages + English and at least one major ancient language like Latin or Greek you are set.
Bonus points for less common ancient languages like Sanskrit and more exotic modern ones like Arabic or Mandarin, but just once you are mostly done with the ones in the first paragraph.

>> No.16597080

>>16596982
french and german, don't fall for the ancients meme

>> No.16597087

>>16596982
latin, german, french (or some other romance)
if you wanna be real cool ancient greek, russian, sanskrit, arabic or some asian one

>> No.16597152

>>16597015
>no german
i laughed

>> No.16597993

Koine Greek or Tagalog+Malay depending on if you're Orthodox or pragmatic.

Don't bother learning anything offered on Duolingo. There's going to be a culture wash affecting all of those languages very soon and there will be absolutely nothing valuable left unless you act now and horde physical copies of it and hide them somewhere well.

>> No.16598140

>>16597993
>Tagalog+Malay depending on if you're [...] pragmatic.
Excuse me?

>> No.16598142

>>16596982
Greek and Latin

>> No.16598151

>>16596982
Nice shoes, apu

>> No.16599188

Alright boys, serious question. I want to learn a language but I don't know the best way to go about it. I'm thoinking about Duo lingo, as it seems to be a good introduction to start out with, but what kind of supplemental stuff should I be doing?

>> No.16599205

>>16596982
If you still think that not being a pleb is about the number of languages you know, you're a pleb.

>> No.16599206

>essential tier
Latin, Attic Greek, French, English

>good tier
Russian, German, Hebrew, Italian

>mid tier
Spanish, Danish, Sanskrit, Koine Greek, Syriac, Arabic

Don’t waste your time with anything else

>> No.16599220

the ones you want to learn

>> No.16599254

>>16599188
Assuming it's a living language, try to consume as much media as you can in the language; songs, tv and movies, and of course books. Additionally, if you want to use the language for anything besides just reading and translating, you'll want to find a community of (preferably native) speakers and spend time with them. Most cities have cultural associations for at least some of the major languages (Chinese, French, German, Spanish, etc.). Speaking with natives is by far the best way to learn a language.

>>16599206
>Hebrew in good tier
>Danish at all
>no Chinese
Uh, hello? Cringe department?

>> No.16599553

>>16596982
Latin. Always Latin.

>> No.16599574

>>16596982
nah what you really need to do is watch anime then decide you want to learn Japanese and spend 30 minutes doing that every day for a few months and then drop it completely

>> No.16599582

>>16596982
learn mandarin chinese, you'll need it soon the way things are going

>> No.16599661

>>16597993
What do you mean anon?

>> No.16599678

>>16596982
German, English, French, Italian (optional), Latin (optional), Russian, Homeric and Attic Greek, Sanskrit or Pali

Latin can be translated to romance language, german, greek, russian are untranslatable

>> No.16599679

Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, Arabic, Italian.

>> No.16599691

>>16596982
Basically only French and German. Every additional language helps of course.

>> No.16599692

I'm literally pooping right now
Arabic is cool

>> No.16599693

>>16599206
You're retarded. How the fuck are Sanskrit and Arabic below Italian, Latin and Greek, and why the fuck is Hebrew above Arabic?

>> No.16599877

>>16599206
>Danish
i am flattered

>> No.16599900

>>16599582
舍命配君子。

>> No.16599916

>>16599206
>only one of those languages have a regular general
You should check it out it's spicy

>> No.16599927

>>16599206
Real answer, what he said
>>16597059
Either Spanish, French, German or Russian
Latin and/or Attic Greek
Mandarin or Arabic
English

It's the only way

>> No.16599942

>>16597993
Based

>> No.16599951

>>16599877
Danish is an objectively shit language.

>> No.16599954

>>16597059
Fuck now I gotta choose between Latin or Greek. Which one should I go for, anon? I reckon Latin should be easier since I already know Spanish and Portuguese, but Greek seems more rewarding. I love Sappho.

>> No.16599955

>>16599951
He's very flattered

>> No.16599962

>>16599954
Tbh they have a lot of similar etymology. I think they were the French to the English romans but I'm not sure

>> No.16599994

>>16599954
You can do both. Once you learn one it will be much easier to learn the other.

>> No.16600033

>>16596982
something actually useful to the modern world. knowing languages of historical import so you can flex on just retards here is pointless. learning ancient greek or latin or whatever so you can read a few books in the original language is dumb, as most of the ones that have stood the test of time have been translated beautifully by now, with the ability to keep the intent and content in tact, and those core ideas are what matters.

what do you want to do with your life anon? do you want to travel to china? learn chinese. do you want to go hunting in south america? better learn some spanish. etc.

the point of learning a language should be personal, meaningful, and based around yielding real world, tangible results. no retard on a cambodian bone carving website can tell you the magical answer. whatever can help you extract the most meaning and value from life is something only you will know.

>> No.16600045

>>16600033
>the point of learning a language should be personal, meaningful, and based around yielding real world, tangible results
Fuck off utilitarian retard.

>> No.16600059

>>16600033
>nooooo you can't appreciate knowledge for its own sake
What are you doing on /lit/?

>> No.16600066
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16600066

>>16596982
Five: English, French, Italian, Latin and Greek. Bonus points for Spanish and German. Also two based language rarely learned are Provençal and Portuguese. If you learn Russian, just kill yourself. Knowing that language instantly makes you a pleb.

>> No.16600091

>>16600066
>Provençal
I wish it wasn't dead bros

>> No.16600113

>>16600059
Knowledge without experience is pointless and the domain of sweaty virgins.
>>16600045
There can be no will to power without the fundamental betterment of the self, and the sharpening of one's mind towards practical, real world situations.

>> No.16600124

>>16600113
>will to power
Pseud

>> No.16600130

>>16600091
I wish I could find nice copies of poetry in Provençal but I've had no luck.

>> No.16600141

>>16600124
I don't agree with everything he says but he makes good points. do you really not believe you owe yourself everything you can become? do you not acknowledge that you exist outside of a vacuum?

>> No.16600142

>>16600091
Just learn Catalan.

>> No.16600519

>>16600113
>>16600141
N-man dedicated himself to philology before anything else.

>> No.16600738

>>16596982
Latin is the one that is absolutely mandatory. There is nothing in history that compares to the Latins.

>> No.16600742

>>16600738
>There is nothing in history that compares to the Latins.
The Romans thought differently. The educated Romans learned Greek and larped as Greeks as much as possible. Greek > Latin.

>> No.16600744

>>16600033
the point is that you cannot know what there is to learn before mastering the essentials

>> No.16600752

I'm fluent in English and Kurdish, and I'm learning Arabic, it's wild to be that I knoe more languages than most people. Doesn't make me particularly smart at all, just shows that most people are in a constant state of having no time to set aside for these kinds of things. Think I'll learn Farsi when I'm done with Arabic so I can read Iranian poetry as it was meant to be read.

>> No.16600763

>>16600742
greeks only matter because the romans liked them, otherwise they'd be egyptian-tier

>> No.16600770

>>16600752
>it's wild to be that I knoe
>I'm fluent in English

>> No.16600772

>>16596982
Java or python. After mastering one or both, go for Sanskrit.

>> No.16600775

>>16600772
>not lisp

>> No.16600776

>>16600763
Absolutely retarded opinion.

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16600777

>>16600770
Excuse my phone posting, but yeah that's good comedic timing

>> No.16600783

>>16599188
Check out the site preply, it has cheap lessons with real native speakers

Duolingo is good, but it can only go so far on its own

>> No.16600795

>>16599693
WTF do you need to read in Sanskrit or Arabic Anon? unless you are a muslim or are into spirituality there is no reason for either. The other ones have influence in multiple esential fields including those.

>> No.16600803

>>16600033
if you already know english then any other language is going to be of minor use to you

>> No.16600804

>>16600795
ancient texts that were hoarded by ancient High priests in order to summon demons to do your bidding

>> No.16600810

>>16596982
classically only latin and ancient greek are going to be essential

>> No.16600812

>>16600795
I dont know what use Sanskrit has beyond a religious context but there are books in Arabic that have nothing to do with religion anon

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16600908

>betsuteibunkazaidatez
I give up

>> No.16600915

>>16600812
>there are books in Arabic that have nothing to do with religion anon
Yes, but thats also true of Lebanese.

>> No.16601438

>>16597059
>Mandarin
Mandarin Chinese is normalfag as fuck and doesn't have any prose fiction besides heavily cliche fantasy fiction.

>> No.16601444

>>16599900
儂は虫国語が反吐が出せる。

>> No.16601521

>>16597015
and chinese and russian

>> No.16601615

English
German
Latin
French
Japanese
Classical Chinese
Hellenic and Koine Greek
Sanskrit

>> No.16601647

>>16601438
It's utilitarian. Beyond that, it's a good start to be able to read the ancient Chinese classics.

>> No.16601671

>>16600783
duolingo is a supplemental tool and its important to remember that.

>> No.16601737

>>16601647
I enjoy reading about Chinese history and culture, but I wouldn't say the Chinese classics are patrician in the same sense Homer and Plato's works are.

>> No.16601782

>>16597015
>>16597027
>>16597059
>>16599582
>>16599927
>>16600033
>>16601521
>>16601647
>Chinese
Kys

>> No.16601821

>>16599877
Danish is worth is just for Soren

>> No.16602072

>>16596982
I dunno bros. I want to learn French, but when I study it, I feel like I'm wasting my time and I should be learning Spanish instead, bc Spanish is spoken in the USA, and would be more "useful". What do?

>> No.16602081

>>16596982
C C++ Java and COBOL

>> No.16602090 [DELETED] 

>>16602072
*German not French

>> No.16602103

>>16601782
ok bud what do you speak

>> No.16602105

>>16602103
English, the only important language

>> No.16602109

>>16601438
With chinese you have a very strong start for ancient chinese poetry and philosophy. Haven't you seen the bilingual edition of those texts in classical-mandarin? There is no other way to get there.

>> No.16602133

>>16602072
Don’t fall for the Spanish-is-more-useful meme. Realistically even if you live in east L.A. you’ll only maybe use it to order a sandwich.

>> No.16602152

>>16602133
That is a fair thing to say. I've spent quite a bit of time in areas of Cali >90% Latino, and English+ a bit of Spanglish worked fine. But that only opens up the gates more! I was originally interested in Italian before I decided either French or Spanish would be more useful as Romance languages. Do I go back to learning Italian?

>> No.16602231

>>16602152
*German, not Italian

>> No.16602716

>>16600752
Do you have any suggetions for one who wants to learn Sorani?

>> No.16602736
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>>16599582
>>16601782

>> No.16602754

>>16602736
chinese is really worth it from a literary perspective though
they have a really long tradition of prose and poetry

also, this guy is definitely right when it comes to china and chinese business culture but it's also funny he would suggest Japanese with that perspective

>> No.16602841

>>16596982
American.

>> No.16602910

>>16602133

Do not listen to this brute. Spanish has a rich literary tradition in both Spain and Latin America, not to mention how pragmatic it'd be while living in the US. I also tried French but definitely can't stand it, it just sounds awful.

>> No.16603089

>>16596982
Learning another language is basically cuck shit. In the ancient world, there was a strong monolingual bias. If you were part of the dominant hegemon, you had no need. If you knew multiple languages, you were probably a slave and/or a butt-plugging faggot. What do you get from another language? Redundancy. A muddled mind. A lack of proper respect for your ancestors. Fuck all languages but english.

>> No.16603110

>>16603089
Retarded post, pretty much all educated ancient Romans spoke Greek even though Rome was the hegemon.

>> No.16603117

>>16602072
Bro fuck spanish. Its a fucking dirty shit language for spics and other assorted retards.

>> No.16603132

>>16596982
*~*~*~*~THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER~*~*~*~*

1. French
2. German
3. Russian
4. Latin
5. That's it.

>> No.16603134

>>16603089
I have read about several famous roman writers who refused to learn any other language but latin. You are overstating your case you dumb nigger

>> No.16603151

>>16603132
1. Faggot shit
2. Incest faggot shit
3. Retard shit
4. lmao bruh

>> No.16603212

>>16603089
Reading is basically cuck shit.

>> No.16603301

>>16596982
A Sami language, Ainu and Basque.

>> No.16603414

>>16603132

Get French out of there and you might be onto something.

>> No.16603834

>>16596982
english and whatever langauge u want
if it's important enough it will be translated to english

>> No.16603848

>>16597015
>French
oh no no no

>> No.16603893

African lip smacking

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>>16603414
>>16603848
yawn