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>> No.16589800

>>16589771
No. Everything else just sorta lives in the shadow of it. It’s like everything else is cursed to live in a perpetual cycle of self immolation by acts of cringe, sustaining the highest pitch of actualized embarrassment

>> No.16589821

>>16589800
You aren't talking about Gotterdammerung are you anon?

Also check em.

>> No.16590208

bump.

>> No.16590229

Brunhilde trying to tell Siegmund he needs to die in act 1 is also godtier

>Valhalla motif subtly woven into cursed Walsung motif

>> No.16590249

>>16590229
Can I get a timestamp/link for that anon?

>> No.16590265

>>16590249
My bad it's actually act 2 scene 4

>> No.16590268

>>16589771
Nope.

>> No.16590307

>>16590265
Yeah that was a fantastic scene, honestly it could be better than the Die Walkure finale.

>> No.16590315

>Wagner originally had real horses in the Ring cycle and even wrote very specific stage directions for them
Literally how would this work? I've heard they had a bunch of trouble because they're live animals so it's almost never done today.

>> No.16590593

The final 11 minutes of King Hu's Dragon Inn

>> No.16590616

>>16590593
>>>/tv/

>> No.16590956

>>16590593
>>16590616
Qrd?

>> No.16590985

There's is no escaping it, is there? I Will be studying Wagner for the rest of my life, won't I? There is no going back.
https://youtu.be/9T_BD-sXm48

>> No.16591053

>>16589771
Will venture the conclusion of Tannhäuser as at least in the running --
From the return of Venus forward
Goosebumps

>> No.16591107
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16591107

Today I will remind them that modern literature would not exist without Wagner
>Wagner's endless melody and leitmotif's directly inspire Édouard Dujardin, who founded the Revue Wagnérienne, to transmute it into a literary form as the inner monologue, or stream of consciousness
>also inspired George Moore similarly
>Joyce read's both Dujardin and Moore, and gives full credit of the inner monologue/stream of consciousness to Dujardin, even writing a dedication in Dujardin's French edition of Ulysses, "to the discoverer of interior monologue, from the unrepentant thief!"
>Furthermore Joyce is influenced by Wagner through D'Annunzio, who was after all a pall-bearer of Wagner's coffin(whom Wagner may have met), and included this scene in his novel Il fuoco, a book containing many Wagnerian and Nietzschean ideas
>But also was Joyce influenced directly by Wagner throughout the course of his life, in 1900 at the age of 19 he gave an address entitled "Drama and Life" directly based upon and inspired by Wagner's Hegelian work(which significantly approximated Schopenhauer's artistic theories) The Art-Work of the Future, Joyce's very conception of Drama came from Wagner. In his later works the Wagnerian idea of the "Gesummtkunstwerk" would prove to have an even larger effect, from the use of musicality in his words, to the architectural whole of it all, it in many ways literarises Wagner's artistic theories.

And this is just one example of countless others of Wagner's influence.