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Well /lit/ ?

>> No.16579284

>>16579280
That’s so embarrassing

>> No.16579296
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16579296

I miss 2009-2015 atheism so much bros

>> No.16579301
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>>16579280
First of all, shoot yourself for being a twitter poster. Second of all, what Dawkins is describing here is a belief that literally persisted into the 20th century and did not necessarily originate with Plato.

Finally, yes, it can be resolved with an experiment but why would you test something so "obvious"?

>> No.16579308

Dawkins has his place in hell next to all the other pseud wranglers

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16579311

>twitter screen cap
Eww. Hidden, saged and reported

>> No.16579316

>>16579296
>2009-2015 atheism
That's already a decade past the peak r u 13?

>> No.16579324

>>16579316
i was during that time

>> No.16579325

>>16579301
Before I forget, for the benefits of the /lit/ards in this thread:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emission_theory_(vision)

>> No.16579329

>>16579311
>anime

fuck you nigger, you're not better than anyone.

>> No.16579343

>>16579329
based
fuck weebcels

>> No.16579349

>>16579280
That's not what Whitehead said. But fuck Plato anyway

>> No.16579373

>>16579301
>a belief that literally persisted into the 20th century
it still persists today. there is apparently a noticeable percentage of people who believe that something comes out of your eyes when you look at things, and another group that believes that they can detect when someone is looking at them (psychic staring effect). i wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the people on this board fall into one or both of those categories.
dawkins is basically right but he's being a bit mean to plato, the ancients believed all sorts of weird shit

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>>16579329
>>16579343
How to oust a Twitterfag. Go back, you don't belong here.

>> No.16579377

>>16579329
yer on an anime imageboard lad

>> No.16579388

>>16579296
>2009-15

You mean 2006-12?

>> No.16579401

>>16579280
what a retard. you literally start with a hypothesis in the scientific method and plato obviously didn't have the technology to test it.

>> No.16579405

>>16579401
Or the scientific method

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>>16579280
Out of context quote

>> No.16579546

>>16579280
The Chad Elemantal Visionary vs. The Virgin Eye Pacifist

>> No.16579555

>>16579329
holy mother of based

>> No.16579603

Plato is right. When I step into the darkness i see the darkness. The seeing is active.

>> No.16579631

>>16579603
hmm yes, i concur with myself. I am indeed correct.

>> No.16579637

>>16579376
Why does the weebcel always resort to the same muh "go back to (insert normie site here)" when you share your (merited) disgust of the brainlets who actually spend their time watching this degeneracy

>> No.16579710

>>16579373
>(psychic staring effect)
I wonder what actually accounts for this. Maybe people give off pheromones or something when they stare at you

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>>16579377

>> No.16579886

>>16579329
Anime is shit but nobody is as bad as Twitter posters, go back.

>> No.16579893

>>16579280
Go easy on Dawkins. He's terrified of death and rapidly approaching it.

>> No.16579925

>>16579280
MAKE A CONTROL FOR CONICOUSNESS THEN NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>> No.16579930

>>16579329
basado

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>>16579329

>> No.16580207

>>16579728
one thing i know for sure after looking at that picture is that 4chan is still the home of autism

>> No.16580240

>>16579388
This. It died with Hitchens.

>> No.16580382

>>16579329
He clearly is better than you.

>> No.16580401

>>16579401
>>16579405
The experiment to prove or disprove it is to have one person look at a thing and then two people look at it. If it becomes easier to see, emission theory is true.

You idiots should read the wiki link I posted.

>> No.16580821

>>16579284
Seriously! Why do people still like Plato anymore.

And Whitehead? Pssh. Turns out Epicurus has more reliable “footnotes”

>> No.16580840

He's right but how eyes work isn't the be all and end all of philosophy

>> No.16580841

>>16580821
Hey Butters, how do you feel about the fact that observing events changes their outcome? Is that really consistent with the notion that "seeing" is just protons hitting our eyeballs and being interpreted internally?

>> No.16580854

>>16579280
based plato foreshadowing relativity

>> No.16580896

>>16579280
what expirements could one devise in ancient times to demonstrate this? hard mode, treat the emission of your eyes like they treated light, massless, force less, instant travel, etc

>> No.16580931

>>16580821
f off booty bitch

>> No.16581027

>>16580841
Seeing s tree fall in the woods properly versus a crazy person who sees it as god trying to kill him, like that?
Events happen as they do, if you interpret them oddly, you’re mind or memory is —human and fallible.

>> No.16581134

>>16581027
Nah, nope, nu uhh

>> No.16581155

>>16579280

Whats the point of this besides to sound witty?
Pythagoras probably thought a few zanny things were real, but that doesnt make the pythagorean theorem false.

>> No.16581168

>>16580841
If observing the event changes the outcome then it follows that the act of observation is part of the event. Causative effect and shit nigger.

>> No.16581174

>>16581134
Please explain.

>> No.16581225

>>16581027
No I mean the experiments they do with light through slits where the results change based on whether or not they observe it happening, either directly or by proxy. The whole schrodinger meme.

>>16581168
Yes? I don't think you understood the post.

>> No.16581241

>>16579296
Oh man, that’s the first thing to make me laugh like that in a long while

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>>16581174
No, sorry, I don't feel like it

>> No.16581257

>>16579710
Orrrrr confirmation bias

>> No.16581266

Dawkins is the ur-midwit upon from which all other midwits are derived

>> No.16581272

>>16581225
Alright. I recall something of it. What’s it to do with this Plato quote?

>> No.16581676

>>16581272
>>16581174
>>16581027
>>16580821
Butters only posts like this when she shits herself. It's ok Butters, lots of people lose control of their bowels in old age.

>> No.16581681

>>16581257
Assuming it is a real effect, statistically significant

>> No.16582283

Where in Plato does it say that?

>> No.16582580

>>16580821
I still remember butters getting totally BTFO re:philosophy of mind