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16572651 No.16572651 [Reply] [Original]

What are some books that prominently feature strolling?

>> No.16572675

>>16572651
Didn't Balzac write about it?

>> No.16572719

>>16572651
The autobiography of Benjamin Franklin is a very much for ambulating.

>> No.16572744

>>16572651
Wish I could take a stroll. Way too hideous of a person to walk anywhere without scaring people. Need to buy a mask to cover my ugly face

>> No.16572775

>>16572651
A philosophy of walking -- Frederic Gros
Of walking on ice by Werner Herzog of all people
Oku no Hosomichi -- Basho
A Time of Gifts by Fermor

>> No.16572796

>>16572651
My diary desu

>> No.16572799

>>16572744
Perhaps take stroll in a quiet area where you're unlikely to pass anyone.

>> No.16572851

The romantics are a great starting point. Wordsworth (both William and Dorothy) and John Clare in particular.

Tolkien is a good one too.

>> No.16572869
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16572869

brb guys time for me to take my daiy constitutional exactly as per usual

>> No.16572886

>>16572744
that’s what night walks are for my nigga

>>16572869
how could one goblino be so based

>> No.16572888

>>16572775
I like Gros so much

>> No.16572892

The Rings of Saturn x1000

>> No.16572900

>>16572892
Came here to post this.

Crime and Punishment

>> No.16572924

>>16572651
i think to the lighthouse has a lilbit of strolling

>> No.16572953
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16572953

You do stroll, don't you anons?

>> No.16573009

>>16572651
Baudelaire, sort of his schtick. (Don't forget Belgium Stripped Bare, walks in town and country.)

>> No.16573010

I dont ever stroll. Rarely leave my house or work. Am i not gonna make it?

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>>16572651
>just strolling down nevsky prospekt
>do do doo
>don't mind me
>"oh hi what do you sell?"
>"opium what's that?"
daily reminder that all it takes is one stroll to fuck up your life

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16573037

>>16572651

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16573045

>>16573010
You're in luck, my good fren

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>>16573045
Based orderin dat shit now whiteboi

>> No.16573294
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16573294

They see me strollin'
They mirin'
Extolling and findin’ me so inspirin’-
My stick’s so long
I'm swangin'
They wrong if they think i’m just laggin’
No I’m just strollin’ calmly
No I’m just strollin’ calmly
No I’m just strollin’ calmly
No I’m just strollin’ calmly

>> No.16573311

>>16573294
ngl i chuckled my dear friend

>> No.16573488

>>16572744
Take the night walk pill, it's quite nice
Also it's corona times so just wear a mask? Nobodys gone call you out for it

>> No.16573505

>>16572953
dios mio... el goblino de konigsberg...

>> No.16573549

>>16572744
>masks mandated in public
hmmm

>> No.16574061

>>16572892
Seconding this.

>> No.16574068

>>16572651
>Against Nature
Does flaneuring count

>> No.16574098

>>16573034
>opium bad

>> No.16574101

>>16573549
You're a retard if you go for a stroll with a mask on.

>> No.16574109

The Zen Poems of Ryokan

also, I'm very fond of that Rousseau book

>> No.16574131
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>>16574068
Based flaneur

>> No.16574134

>>16572799
But then he would be risking getting mugged by a bunch of niggers.

>> No.16574193

>>16572651
I think Werner Herzog has a book on walking, no?

He is a famous walker, besides being a great filmmaker. I believe he journeyed some very long paths entirely on foot.

He says walking is very important for a filmmaker.

>> No.16574209

>>16574193
Mentioned above

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>>16574068
will people look at me weird is i do this?

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>>16572651
>The stroll-pill
My favorite pill of them all. Sebald is the stroll-pill master, and The Enigma of Arrival bears many similarities to Sebald's work. But let's not ignore Sebald's great inspiration, Robert Walser, who wrote one of the finest stroll-pill books of all, The Walk.

>> No.16575028

>>16572651
Kierkegaard says something like "I have walked myself into my best thoughts" and wrote and rewrote his books while walking.

>> No.16575075

Has a single thing so elegantly btfo the basic tenants of buddhism more than the strollpill?

>> No.16575112

>>16572651
surprised this hasent been brought up but thoreau wrote this long ass schizo post about walking ages ago
it literally is like that guy who wrote the manifesto saying that neets are the new patricians and aristocracy, but instead of neets it walkers
he does some crazy philology in it too, its a good read, if not just to remind yourself that thoreau was so unbelievably high on his own fumes, in the best way possible

>> No.16575313

>>16575112
sounds awesome, what's it called?

>> No.16575326
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>>16572744
Be happy for who you are anon, and love the world more than you do yourself-- like a Mozart.

>For God's sake, do read the bulky but very interesting book on Mozart by Otto Jahn. You will see from it what a wonderful, irreproachable, infinitely kind, and angelically pure nature he had. He was the incarnation of the ideal of a great artist who creates because of an unconscious stirring of his genius. He wrote music as the nightingales sing, i.e. without pausing to think, without doing violence to himself. [...] Everyone loved him; he had the most marvellous, cheerful, and equable temperament. There was not a whit of pride in him. Whenever he met Haydn, he would express his love and veneration for him in the most sincere and fervent terms. The purity of his soul was absolute. He knew neither envy nor vengefulness nor spite, and I think that all this can be heard in his music, which has reconciling, clarifying, and caressing properties [...]
- Tchaikovsky

>> No.16575332

>>16573034
How do you get addicted to opium lmao? Is it really as bad as heroin?

>> No.16575335

>>16573138
Based fat-nosed, big-lipped nog.

>> No.16575343

>>16575313
Walking

>> No.16575385

>>16575343
cool, thanks.

>> No.16575414

>>16575326
Holy based. Fuck Voltaire

>> No.16575435

>>16572744
Get a skincare routine and a fresh new cut

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>>16575326
>You will see from it what a wonderful, irreproachable, infinitely kind, and angelically pure nature he had
>that quote

>> No.16575640

>>16572651
Based and strollpilled

>> No.16575714

>>16572651
How do I get into strolling?

>> No.16575831

>>16575714
Stand up and stroll. It's very simple, my friend.

>> No.16576041

>>16574977
Just don't spy on children...

>> No.16576664

>>16575714
>how do i get into (X verb)
>do (X verb)
crazy how language works huh
if you want to do something, you do it, holy shit this is breaking news

>> No.16576947

>>16575112
>that guy who wrote the manifesto saying that neets are the new patricians and aristocracy
where can I read this?

>> No.16576997

>>16576947
i dunno if he finished it, i took a hiatus of about a month, but he said hed post it when it was finished, ill post a little bit of it here, he posted some teasers to it because we pushed him to a while back
>All meaningful developments in society have as their foundation freedom from labour. Our earliest ancestors—who does not properly deserve to be called ‘Man’—lived only for his subsistence; in the bloody slough of nature all struggled only for his next meal, trapped in a cycle of prey and predation; a life of impermanence, a perpetual present, where nothing lasting could be made. But from this chaotic period arose, as if by divine providence, the invention that would raise man from beast and lay the foundation of the gradual, glacial emancipation of mankind—agriculture. These earliest farmers barely lived better than their bestial forebears, but they were capable of some permanence—to reach and claw at the future, and heave, if only a little, of his work there. So the first act of defiance of man against time. These early men are our Prometheus: who, willing to have his liver pecked out by a thousand back-breaking days, passed us a most treasured gift: the possibility of freedom from necessity. Through ingenuity and craft, little by little, they improved their yields; now a little seed saved, now a bountiful harvest, now an extra row tilled, each time eking out a little more from the jealous clutch of nature. From this process a miracle occurred, the greatest miracle of all humanity: Enough was produced so that one was able to live off the labour of another, without the need to labour himself. This marked the end of an epoch, and the beginning of another—the invention of the division of labour. So exploded human development, where those freed from direct subsistence could explore the new summits of the human mind. In metallurgy, in poetry, in religious rites, in astronomy, mathematics, geometry, philosophy, science—all first required liberation from subsistence labour.
>History is divided between two groups: those who worked for their subsistence, and those who subsisted on the work of others.
The Brahmin of India, the Buddhist Bikkhu, the Rabbi, Priest and Imam—all spiritual leaders are freed from labour and employment, respected by all, to pursue the highest spiritual and intellectual pursuits. All espouse forsaking the path of greed as required for salvation. The medicant a symbol of the nobility of his position.
>Aristocrats and Nobles, elevated above subsistence by the labour of others, shared this gift with the artistic class through systems of patronage, bequeathing the world with the treasures of the human spirit.

>> No.16577126

>>16572744
LOL how ugly are you that people are scared just by looking at you on a walk

>> No.16577132

>>16573294
Very humorous

>> No.16577196

>>16574131
Probably wouldn't be such a pig if he took more walks and less drives packed into that convertible mini

>> No.16577231

>>16572651
based and flaneurpilled, read Baudelaire.

>> No.16577239

>>16572744
now this I need to see

>> No.16577287

>>16575332
all opioids are pretty much the same. If you think heroin (diacetyl-morphine) is all that different a high than normal morphine found in opium amongst other opiates, you would be wrong. Now to do another line of h

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>>16572953
I saunter

>> No.16578599

>>16576997
actually well written

>> No.16578656

>>16577287
t. fellow heroin snorter/stroller

>> No.16578755

>>16575631
I fail to see the issue, atheists are subhuman.

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>>16575112
>it literally is like that guy who wrote the manifesto saying that neets are the new patricians and aristocracy
Who do you think made this thread? But thanks for the recc, it looks interesting.

>> No.16579544

>>16576997
Pretty gud, thanks

>> No.16579692

>Ctrl+F "Walser" 1/1
... Okay.

>> No.16579866

>>16575831
>>16576664
Fine, any strolling tips?

>> No.16579904

>>16579692
His book Walks isn't even that much about walking itself, or how walking is integral to his musings. It's not the most relevant.

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16579959

You haven't truly perambulated until you've done so in your own room.

>> No.16579962

I'm pissed, manic, and neurotic nearly half the day. Should I go on 3 hour strolls every single day?

>> No.16579968

>>16579959
lmao

>> No.16579973

>>16579962
I would definitely recommend it.

>> No.16580004

>>16579973
Would you recommend music or does that miss the point of going on a stroll?

>> No.16580041

>>16580004
You might try listening to some audiobooks of spiritual/religious/philosophical works while you are out. This helped me, anyway.

>> No.16580073

>>16580004
Depends. Through a bucolic landscape apart and away from civilisation you'd probably want to go sans music. In the city what does it matter? The aural blight of traffic is improved upon by music.

>> No.16580136

>>16580041
>>16580073
True enough. I live in an urban shithole as is, so I can't really appreciate nature.

>> No.16580168

>>16576997
the second half
>All wage labour is subsistence labour. All wage labour is slavery. The slave, the peasant, the serf, and now the wage labourer, all gave their life so the benefactor of their labour may live. The original sin of Calvin and Luther would break this symbiotic relationship, where labour served only to expand labour, forcing all into bondage. The slave cum wage labourer labours for his subsistence; the bourgeoisie, possessed by the spirit of capitalism, labours hollowly for a creed long dead. Each is a cog powering a pointless machine. Each creates nothing but his own denial.
>The wage labourer is fascinated by his baubles and trinkets, living under the illusion that resting his tired and broken mind in front of bread and circus is the highest attainment; Unable to ever buy his freedom, he is blameless. The merchant, the company owner, the landlord and speculator, the politician and bureaucrat, the modern descendants of the aristocrats of old: This class I charge with dereliction of duty. They waste the flame passed to them by the groaning Prometheus, and use it only to widen the net of labour, enslaving ever more and catching themselves in the process.
>But in this heaving dynamo there has emerged a new successor to aristocrats of old. The product of the subsistence labourer is sought by all. This labour, sweeter than the sweetest ambrosia, is fought for bitterly; the business man, the bureaucrat, the politician, each claw and fight to suckle on this primordial teet. But in their fight, they squander its gift. Some of this life-giving force finds its way from this profligate feast to the institution of welfare, and from welfare into the hands of this new class. Not borne of power, or wealth; not of royalty nor buoyed by trust funds; free from the chains of the world, free from expectation, free from the consuming struggles for material gain. This unlikely new bearer of the torch of humanity:
>The NEET.

>> No.16580328

>>16580041
Can't support this. Strolling is for musing, and you can't do that if you're concentrating on an audiobook.

>> No.16580338

Walking by Thoreau. Also anything by Tolkien

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>>16572651
>Sir, we are all so happy as to have a fine, fresh, cool morning, and I hope we shall each be the happier in the other's company. And, Gentlemen, that I may not lose yours, I shall either abate, or amend my pace to enjoy it; knowing that, as the Italians say, 'Good company in a journey makes the way to seem the shorter.'

>> No.16580394

>>16572651
Rawicz's The Long Walk
Wordsworth's Prelude (1805)
Fielding's Joseph Andrews
Poe's The Man in the Crowd

>> No.16580404

>>16572892
thirding this

>> No.16580485

>>16580389
Moft excellent felection

>> No.16581175

>>16579959
Fucking lol

>> No.16581218

>>16572651
critique of pure reason

>> No.16581256

>>16572744
Why is this post so funny to me?

>> No.16581339

>>16572675
>Balzac

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16581874

Strolling is little too slow and you can't cover as much ground. I prefer the cycle pill.

>> No.16581886

>>16575326
He's right about the spirit in Mozart's music, it's downright fucking alien or angelic how pure and beautiful it is.

>> No.16581941

>>16572953
I amble

>> No.16581968

>>16579866
Comfy shoes are a must, but don't go overboard on price.

Don't plan your route, just go where your heart takes you (or actively try to break it by doing on a derive).

Wear a nice hat, maybe sunscreen depending on where you're going.

The journey is more important than the destination.

Bring a small notebook and a pen to write down ideas or things that strike your fancy (or write it on the inside of your hat like John Clare did).

Remember to wear a mask in these plague-stricken times.

>> No.16582512

>>16581968
What if i get lost?

>> No.16582529

>>16582512
enjoy, it's hard to get lost nowadays

>> No.16582535

>>16575075
Underrated post

>> No.16582897

>>16582529
Okay. Thanks for the advice.

>> No.16582909

>>16582897
I you live in a big city I even created a little game for it: follow people for something like an hour (which is really fun btw), then try to go home. You can add a lot of rules (try to go home by following people, try to go home without taking a street you took while following peope, etc.) I'm currently working on a manifesto about following people and everyone should try it.

>> No.16582939

>>16582909
what, the same person? i've sometimes thought of just following one person around for a day to observe the life of the average man but it seems a little stalkerish.

>> No.16582959

>>16572744
>wear the mask
>someone approaches
>take mask off
>look them in the face
let them be scared

>> No.16582965

>>16573294
sensiblechuckle.webm

>> No.16582970

>>16582939
nope most people don't stroll, so when they walk they are going somewhere, you follow them to their destination and then you follow another person. You can also fix rules (I will only follow couples, I will only follow people for five minutes, etc.). What I like to do is to go to a big square, buy a pack of cig and follow the first person i see when after i bought it. I thought of doing the same and I've also listened to a lot of conversation of unaware people (in cafes, people smoking a cig at the window during a party, etc.) and my conclusion is that most people are not that interesting most of the time, myself included. That being said that little game of following people has many interesting aspects and firstly it makes you discover your city in a way you would have never did yourself because even you think you choose the streets randomly it will never be true. It's also very interesting to observe the behaviour of people who are unaware that they are being observed.
Lately I've been thinking about letting myself known to push the experiment further but I think I could end up being beaten up or in a police station, and I'm not sure I'm ready for that.

>> No.16582979

>>16581968
>Don't plan your route, just go where your heart takes you
Taleb touches on this point nicely with optionality and rational flâneuring.

>> No.16583040

>>16581968
Anon, what if I am scared. The area I live in isn't horrible, but its not very friendly and full of all kinds of people. This means there are lots of junkies and other kinds of people who take their own kinds of meth fueled strolls, and one can come upon these people and enter into a very scary situation. I've spoken to guys with knives and crazy faces and shit, some guys who ask for some money for the bus while they jitter about and others who ask for a cigarette and threaten you with screeching and droning that you're fucken dead dog get the fuck out of here. It's really not very nice to experience for a stroll. Some guys in hoodies pace behind you ], getting faster and faster talking on the phone until you divert course and lose them. I've been chased by bullies, heckled by bullies. So, would cycling or running be an alternative? Or should I use the experience to strengthen myself even though it is very unpleasant?

>> No.16583057

>>16572651
Catcher in the Rye

>> No.16583067

>>16572651
I'm too autistic to stroll

I go on the exact same dog walking route every single day and get anxious if another person appears along the way

>> No.16583344

>>16572651
Aristotle's Corpus
He was the peripatetic, after all

>> No.16583355

>>16572744
>being afraid of scaring people with your hideous countenance
not based and definitely not shrekpilled

>> No.16583385

>>16572651
Thoreau has a fantastic essay on walking. Quick read.

>> No.16584299

bump

>> No.16584777

>>16583040
America is such a shithole that the only proper way they can stroll is driving their car for an hour until they are in nature. Imagine your country being such a fucking shithole you cant even take a fucking walk whenever you please.
>source: European whose parents live in Houston

>> No.16584829

>>16582970
what do you hope to win by letting them know what you are doing? if you want to talk to them you could ask them for directions, tell thek that you're lost and that you thought they were going to the same conference as you or something. dont outright tell them you're a weirdo

>> No.16585789

>>16584829
I want to see their reaction. I have no idea how I would react if I felt I was being followed and when I confront the dude he tells me he's following me. While I can imagine several scenarios, I would like to see their face. One can tell much with a face and we rarely have the occasion to see a face pushed against the absurd.

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Seconding the strollpill. Leave your phone at home and stroll in nature with a pen and notepad for ideas. If you live in the city wear headphones and listen to an audiobook or music.

>> No.16585955

>>16585884
this but drop the notepad
compose poetry in your mind and let it drift away
its what i do anyways
helps with memory and also with composition, because the method we compose with affects our art, ie nietzsche prose changed after he switched to typwriter etc
so if you want to imitate the eternal poets, you need to assume their mindset of composing first, remembering and then writing it down

>> No.16585968

>>16572892
Fourthing this and KYS

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>>16572651

are we really going to ignore the most influential and groundbreaking flaneur novel of all time?

>> No.16585983

>>16579692
>t.pseud who just discovered Walser but hasn’t actually read him so his superiority complex just provided an useless recommendation to the post

>> No.16586091

>>16585983
pfft I've known Walser for years but never got to reading him I can't find The Robber online :(

>> No.16586320

We should make a strollpill chart

>> No.16586383

LindyMan already wrote about strolling and it’s the most beautiful piece I’ve seen on the topic of walking

https://paulskallas.substack.com/p/in-praise-of-the-lindy-walk

>> No.16586924

>>16586383
i keep seeing people use
>lindy
but i have no idea what it means. mostly taleb posters too

>> No.16586934

>>16586320
Yes. I was thinking this yesterday.
>>16586383
Based.

>> No.16586934,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>16585983
eat shit idiot