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Absolute hack

>> No.16561347

He was a midwit who coped with his failure at math and chemistry by writing genre fiction but he is still more /sovl/ than 99% of authors. Deal with it.

>> No.16561425

>>16561347
Racists/right-wingers have no sovl

>> No.16561551
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>>16561344
pseud midwit hack with a writing style almost as obnoxious as his fanboys

>> No.16561555

>>16561344
I always thought his endings were really weak, but as far as actual story writing goes, he's great, style is another matter that no one judges objectively anymore.

>> No.16561561
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>>16561344
I fell asleep listening to this dude a bunch because I would listen to playlists in my car on lunch break, always so comfy. I swear I started rambling random musings in my head after that. It was weird. Fuck was I comfy back then though.

>> No.16561690

>>16561425
>being racist automatically makes you right wing

cringe

>> No.16562555

>>16561344
Absolute *based hack

>> No.16562612
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16562612

>NOOOOOOO, IS THIS AN ITALIAN? AGHHHHH IM GOING INSAAAAAAANE NOOOOO, NIGGERMAN PLEASE SAVE MEEEEEEEE
what a fucking fraud

>> No.16562629

Come on... the Call of Cthulhu is comfy af.

>> No.16562729

>>16561555
This. The endings suck but the worldbuilding and imagery is comfy

>> No.16562918

>>16561344
>W-what's that? An IRISHMAN?? AAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSAAAAAAAANEEEE AAAAAAAGGHHH

>> No.16564069

>>16561347
>>16561425
>>16561551
>>16561555
>>16561561
>>16561690
>>16562555
>>16562612
>>16562629
>>16562729
>>16562918
Seething brownie

>> No.16565292

Degenerated eldritch peasants.

>> No.16565378
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16565378

For me, it's Clark Ashton Smith

>> No.16565587

le cat name

>> No.16565597

>>16561344
You hate him because he doesn't like your precious talking chimpanzees

>> No.16565620

>>16562612
That's a proto human full of vice

>> No.16565649

>>16565620
>proto
he's from the future.

>> No.16565655

>>16561344
I think it’s fair to say that’s he’s incredibly hit or miss. Definitely not a hack, though.

>> No.16565662

>>16561344
He was not a hack as he originated his genre.

>> No.16565682

>>16561425
Fascism was scavenged from an idealized roman civilization. I think It is a renaissance of soul.

>> No.16565684

What are his top 3 stories

>> No.16565705

>>16565684
The Call of Cthulhu, At the Mountains of Madness, and The Haunter of the Dark in my opinion but it's been a while since I read his works.

>> No.16565740

>>16565705
sweet thank you, going to read them

>> No.16565746

>>16565684
I don’t know if these are his best but I really like The Call of Cthulhu, Color Out of Space, and Whisperer in Darkness.

>> No.16566215

>>16564069
Nah. I like his works and also shitposting. Howie was based.

>> No.16566243

>>16561690
He chilled out as he aged and like, went outside. He was a true NEET and spent almost all his time inside writing schizo letters to people until a gf finally came for him.

When he actually got outside and exposed to people he actually loosened up a bunch and would apparently have long and highly engaged conversations while loading up on coffee and vanilla ice cream.

>>16561561
He would approve.

>> No.16566249

>>16565684
Shadow of Innsmouth

>> No.16566337

he was a bit hacky yeah but his ideas were amazing and his philosophical worldview is very relatable if you're an outcast to human society

>> No.16566354

>seethe and cope: the thread

>> No.16566355

>>16561344
Has anyone read Michael Houellebecq's essay about Lovecraft?

>> No.16566358

>>16566243
You're spreading misinformation, Lovecraft was a recluse during the last years of his life and his racism developed into a more resigned misanthropic view of all humanity

>> No.16566383

>>16561344
>bro it was so scary I literally can't even describe it
>but it drives you insane when you see it
>you just gotta trust me bro
What a genius.

>> No.16566390

>>16566383
Yes.

>> No.16566406

>>16561344
>AHHHHHHHHH A BUGGG IM GOING ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY BONKERS!!!

>> No.16566592

>>16565662
>Originated
No

>> No.16566627

>>16561425
You realize 90%+ of the authors discussed here would be considered Racists/right-wingers by today's tranny standards, right?

>> No.16566639

>>16565655
>Definitely not a hack, though.
Yes he fucking is. A shittier Poe in every sense of the word.

>> No.16566668

>>16565378
based module

>> No.16567185

>>16561690
They are the same thing.

>> No.16567200

>>16566639
Hacks are mercenary's who produce for profit. Lovecraft is as far from a hack as one can get.

>> No.16567208

>>16566592
Lovecraftian horror.

>> No.16567228

>>16567185
Negative. In a hypothetical post racist society the conservative position would be anti-racist. A right winger can be capitalist, anti-capitalist, monarchists, or any number of things so longs as he is preserving the social order he already has or aspires to. In the same spirit the left-wing can be pro-capitalist or even pro monarchist so long as the intention is to reduce social inequality by doing so. It goes without saying that neither side is automatically moral.

>> No.16567254

>>16561344
I agree with what everyone is saying about his writing style being bad and his misunderstanding of science and his vehement racism, but I will draw the line at hack. I think he is, at least, original in his ideas

>> No.16567277

>>16567254
>writing style being bad
It may be archaic but it is not bad.
>his misunderstanding of science
Can you elaborate on this?
>vehement racism
His racism was common to the New England of that era.

>> No.16567368
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>>16567277
Lovecraft was considered a racial extremist even in his own time

>> No.16567388

>>16567368
lmao, if that shitty blogpost says it, it must be true

>> No.16567408

>>16566355
Yes, bretty kool

>> No.16567413

>>16567388
Lovecraft was a huge racist by any standard; doesn't make his writing bad, though.

>> No.16567946

>>16567185
most of the socialist countries from the past to now were ethno nationalist lole. you can be a commie and realize that niggers are antithetical to a socialist future

>>16567228
>you can be a left-wing capitalist
now this a spicy opinion

>> No.16567990

>>16561344
>Pseud makes one-line thread dissing dead pulp writer
Whoa there lad, better cut down on the milk and cookies

>> No.16567995

>>16567368
Niggers rode the back of the bus until long after Lovecraft was dead

>> No.16568350

>>16561344
>absolute hack

What is this shit? What are you even doing on a board like /lit/?

>> No.16568674
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>>16567990
>>16568350

>> No.16568965

>>16561344
The veneration he receives in the minds of the typically capeshit-loving caste is extreme and undeserved, sure, but so is the scorn with which he is treated by those who consider themselves to be 'well read intellectuals'. The feelings of the former are most probably a result of ignorance. Because the layman reads very little quality fiction, it would be easy for (a layman) to read one of lovecraft's works and think "Woah dude, this dude uses lots of adjectives and writes about cool shit, I like this guy's books." This hypothetical dudebro could then tell his homeboys about this wicked-cool author and his spooky eldritch abominations, to which they would assume, "This is a good author. " Because they too are laymen, they have no reason to believe otherwise, also they'll probably never read the books themselves. This opinion is of course reinforced by the man's fame, and has become almost memetic within some circles.

The position of these 'well read intellectuals', I suspect, comes from both their literary experience and a desire to be seen as dramatically different from the aforementioned laymen. They recognise that lovecraft isn't the greatest, and remark upon their findings, however, they often modify these remarks so as to emphasize their opinion as one which departs from those of the laymen. Often it is an unwitting modification. Often it is not. These modifications are a result of the superiority and casual distain these exceptional individuals feel towards those they perceive as being of a different class, whom they often assign the label 'midwit'. This position towards lovecraft also seems to have become memetic within some circles.

tldr: Midwits say he's great because of ignorance, and faggots say he's terrible because they enjoy drawing a distinction between themselves and midwits. Regular people say he's k.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>> No.16570245

>>16568965
didn't read lmao

>> No.16570256

>>16567995
Ok, that doesn’t mean that there weren’t varying degrees of racism

>> No.16570329
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16570329

This guy was superior in every way. I've read Conan stories that were more terrifying.

>> No.16570381

>>16570329
AND he was even MORE autistic than him, somehow

>> No.16570847

>>16568965
Do the superior circles have objective methods to determine whether one persons writing is better than anothers?

>> No.16571348

>>16570847
No. They're based on hearsay and popular opinion just as much as the lower circles.

>> No.16571398

>>16570847
You will know it when you read extensively. Great work stays with you for multiple reasons.

>> No.16571618

>>16567200
He does have some hacky stories that he wrote purely for cash, including lots of stories he co-authored or ghost wrote. Of course no one reads those anymore, and Poe wrote a few stories for money as well.

>> No.16572256

>>16566249
This one is weak.

>> No.16572826

>>16561344

His writing isn't amazing but his ideas and ambiance are great. That's why he's better as an influence than an original source.