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>> No.16553585

>>16553573
Was there a problem with Tristan that needed redeeming?

>> No.16553597

>>16553585
They show completely contradictory views on sex and love.

>> No.16553815

>>16553597
They're two different characters that in despite of the common medievalism perform in entirely different atmospheres. Unironically check out Schiller's Aesthetic Education of Man. Parsifal's naive, Tristan sentimental-- the latter's more in tune with modern times, the former's more the dramatization of a legitimate ideal.

>> No.16553828

>>16553573
Wagner cucked out and made Parzival an asexual, angelic creature when Parzival literally means pierce the veil, the symbol of phallic exploration par excellence.

>> No.16553896

>>16553828
Man you're a fucking retard, piercing the valley isn't a sexual connotation-- Wolfram hails him as a "pure fool", which Wagner believed was the older meaning of the name Percival, which is why Wagner changed it to "Parsifal".

>All this for mornings well spent on Parsifal. This is an Arabian name. The old troubadours no longer understood what it meant. "Parsi fal" means: "parsi"- think of the fire-loving Parsees - "pure"; "fal" means "mad" in a higher sense, in other words a man without erudition, but one of genius"

Also Parsifal wasn't asexual for Wagner, I don't know how you could see this.

>> No.16553914

>>16553896
wrong

>> No.16553938
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>>16553914

>> No.16555750

>>16555555

>> No.16555761

>>16555750
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