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16551764 No.16551764 [Reply] [Original]

Enough of these ESL's who have taken over the board: This thread is for English native speakers only for the discussion of work from those of the anglosphere. /lit/ shouldn't be a hookah cafe full of people who don't speak the King's.

>> No.16551798

>Muh Goethe
>Muh Balzac
>Muh Cervantes
>Muh Dante
>Muh Camoes
>Muh Tolstoy

Shakespeare contained them all.

>> No.16551808

>>16551798
Shakespeare was merely a decent playwright and a dreadful sonnetist. He certainly didn't contain Dante and Cervantes, much less the übermensch that was Goethe.

>> No.16551816

>GermanESL here

>> No.16551826

>>16551798
Proved wrong by Maestro, try again a*gloid

>> No.16551828
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16551828

It sure smells like fear and despair in here.

>> No.16551836

>>16551808
>>16551826
seethe

Most of the people you offer in return would disagree.

>> No.16551845

>>16551764
What other books read like Alice in Wonderland? it was a very enjoyable read. sorry if i made any mistakes i am ESL

>> No.16551847
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16551847

>Ah, yes... the language of my people.

>> No.16551858

>>16551847
No racists allowed in the anglo supremacy thread.

>> No.16551868

>>16551858
I posted that unironically; Death and the King's Horseman is based.

>> No.16551871

>>16551858
>Anglo
>niggerloving cuck
par for the course

>> No.16551894

ñ

>> No.16551946

>>16551894
ɹ̠ʷ

>> No.16551960
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16551960

Can you ESL's fuck off? I don't go into your generals to shit it up. What is it about us that makes ESL's seethe so much? I made this thread so I don't have to deal with you idiots seething about anglos 24/7.

>> No.16551969
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16551969

FUCK THE UK

>> No.16551970

>>16551960
I think it's the fact you made the thread with the sentiment of insulting everyone else at the forefront, I don't think anyone would care much had you just made an anglo general with a decent introductory OP

>> No.16551984

>>16551970
>almost every other poster is an ESL
>foreign generals taking up the board like it's /int/
Everyone was thinking it, I just decided to say it. I'm sick of seeing some tard seething about "muh a*glos" every thread. This thread is for English speakers only.

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>>16551764
>the King's.
what king? all you have is an ugly crone

>> No.16551999

>>16551764
Confession:
Outside of Shakespeare and the English Romantics, practically all lit I've read comes from outside the Anglosphere and wasn't written in English. That said, I can't read very well in anything but English, so the majority of what I've read is translations.

>> No.16552003
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16552003

>Everyone was thinking it, I just decided to say it. I'm sick of seeing some tard seething about "muh a*glos" every thread. This thread is for English speakers only.

>> No.16552014

>>16551960
I'm sorry I really wanna read somehting like alice in wonderland again
it was so short but it was very beautiful
english is a beautiful language
and yeah im spgt i don't share the same anti-anglo sentimalism others from there do

>> No.16552032

>>16551984
They're actually even dumber about it than /pol/ is about Jews, /pol/ at least only calls people kikes if they say something left-leaning. These retards just call completely random things that they don't like 'fucking anglos blah blah', it's actually mental illness.

>> No.16552037

>>16551999
Read the metaphysical poets. Also, checked.

>> No.16552041

>>16551764
Based. Not anglo myself but most of the anti-anglo garbage on this board is obviously from bitter krauts and seething frogs

>> No.16552046

>>16552014
also i just wanna add, and don't get butthurt about this, but before the century turns over, america will be speaking spanish de-facto which means 4chan will follow suit, becuase we sure as hell aren't forced to type in english due to an irrelevant country such as britain or canda or australia
again i don't mean to antagonize you guys and if it comforts you every other spanish speaking co9untry is irrelevant as well, though that is changing due to america's defacto language becoming spanish soon

>> No.16552064

>>16552041
>can't deal with the bantz
weak-willed angloid in spirit

>> No.16552074

>>16552046
Incredibly stupid post

>> No.16552077

>>16552046
I wouldn't mind that happening, but I doubt it will. Spanish unfortunately has quite the stigma of being the language of uneducated immigrants from Latin America, and American Spanish literature is very underdeveloped. At most, I think many Spanish words will seep into American English over time.

>> No.16552086

>>16552046
That won't happen because the only people that will only speak Spanish will be the underclass. The elite composed of wasps, jews, asians, and various minority representatives are going to stick with English, so all the lower classes will continue to imitate them.

>> No.16552103

>>16552074
>>16552077
>>16552086
plenty of mexicans refuse to learn english, i know this because i have plenty of family over there that can get by without speaking so much more than a "parquear" and get by just fine
this is particualrly ironic because I know english better than they do and I have lived in mexico all my life
anyway I havent done any profound research but I just have a great feeling that the hispanic language will be restored to all former spanish territories :)

>> No.16552108

>>16552077
>American Spanish literature is very underdeveloped.
It's better than that of Scandinavia, for example, which is first world and still quite underdeveloped literary-wise. Considering the amounts of crime and poverty, LatAm is doing relatively well.

>> No.16552110

>>16552103
Did you even read the posts you replied to? The immigrants that can't speak English are an underclass, they'll at most develop little enclaves.

>> No.16552114
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16552114

>M-my language is better.

>> No.16552113

>>16552110
little enclaves spanning 90% of your countries pops cause the middle class and upwards only adopt pitbulls lol

>> No.16552125

>>16552113
Retard

>> No.16552126

>>16552125
you are a homosexual

>> No.16552132
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16552132

>tfw some ESL calls you iliterate [sic] in a garbled, grammatically incorrect screed
Can't they just fuck off to their native language chans already?

>> No.16552136

>>16552113
You have a very weak grasp on how demographics and immigration and class structures work. In fact I dont think you have any grasp you're just resentful of Americans and are concocting revenge fantasies

>> No.16552137

>>16552125
He's right though and you're seething because of it

>> No.16552148

>>16552126
No!!

>> No.16552153

>>16552136
last time i checked you needed to have babies to keep up a demographic but is k, time will prove if i was wrong or right, not like we lose anything anyway

>> No.16552157

>>16552137
Do you really believe Spanish will become the majority language of the USA and then of the world?

>> No.16552163

>>16552046

Nobody is butthurt, because the people speaking it as their mother tongue aren't in charge, nor will they be. It's like the Inuit in northern Canada bragging about the majority in Nunavut that speak Inuk, double anyone else's population, and getting max butthurt because whitey runs literally EVERYTHING up there. The entire history of colonization has literally been a small group of Euros or Anglos dominating and putting themselves in charge of populations many times more.

"British rule from the time after the mutiny is often called the Raj. During this period a tiny number of British officials and troops (about 20,000 in all) ruled over 300 million Indians. This was often seen as evidence that most Indians accepted and even approved of British rule."

>> No.16552166

>>16552153
You lose automatically by your countries being terrible and the places you move to becoming terrible as you fill them up

>> No.16552168
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>>16552132
This thread is proof they can't. Look at this discourse. It's ESLs arguing about Latin America and Spanish in the US; calling it a discourse is generous—they're just calling each other gay now. The other posts are just spiteful ESLs seething at the very notion of a general they are not welcome in.

>> No.16552170

>>16552157
Do you not? America will literally become majority hispanic at such a rapid rate that there will practically be no assimilation (not like anyone is trying to assimilate hispanics either instead of just letting them transform the country). I don't know if it will become the world language though, as that depends on the future of America's status as the global hegemon, which is highly unlikely to go on for a few more decades

>> No.16552171

>>16552166
you're canadian, aren't you

>> No.16552173

>>16552041
It mainly from latin americans actually

>> No.16552180
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16552180

A friendly reminder

>> No.16552185

>>16551798
>Shakespeare contained them all.
Yes, and he was German. Angl*ids could never ascend to such heights.

>> No.16552195

>>16552163
true, I actually think that the mexicanization of the US means the loss of the US continued status as a global power, except that they have nuclear weapons
who knows it's anyone's guess

>> No.16552199

>>16552195
meant to reply to this post>>16552170

>> No.16552202

>>16552180
Friendlier reminder:
>Spanish may seem to be spoken at a higher speed than Vietnamese, but that doesn't make it any more "efficient." Researchers affiliated with the CNRS and Université Lumière Lyon 2 (Dynamique du Langage laboratory) have shown that human languages are equally effective at transmitting information, even if the speeds at which they are spoken differ.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/09/190905124520.htm

>> No.16552215

>>16552202
>spoken language
This is /lit/, mate. We're talking about the written word.

>> No.16552216

>>16552202
you're point?

>> No.16552221

>>16552108
No, I meant Spanish lit from the USA (EE.UU.)

>> No.16552226

>>16552216
Learn English first, faggot.
>>16552215
Your graph literally measures syllables per second. What else would it be if not spoken language?

>> No.16552239

>>16552226
why are angloids so mad all the time? is it because their women only adopt pitties?

>> No.16552244

>>16552239
What is your point with the dogs why do you keep mentioning it

>> No.16552258

>>16552226
>Your graph literally measures syllables per second
And information density.

>> No.16552259

>>16552170
>America will literally become majority hispanic at such a rapid rate that there will practically be no assimilation (not like anyone is trying to assimilate hispanics either instead of just letting them transform the country).
Kek this is delusional, little Mexican children of fruit-pickers all speak English better than they speak Spanish. That's what happens when alomost all of the schools and most of the media is in English.

>> No.16552263

>>16552244
idk i'm just trying to guess why you'd be so butthurt, i have a feeling it mostly stems from this because i'd also be butthurt if i werent able to breed cause my women would rather adopt dogs
dogs are cute though ngl

>> No.16552265

>>16551826
>spics reading our literature

>> No.16552267

>>16552265
>english """"""literature""""""

>> No.16552285
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16552285

Even the frogs agree

>> No.16552295

>>16551764
What about Anglosphere natives who write in a language besides English?

>> No.16552303

>>16552295
You mean people in former British colonies who write in their native languages? Or people like Beckett?

>> No.16552323

>>16552303
>You mean people in former British colonies who write in their native languages?
No, I think that makes it a bit too wide. I was think more of immigrants or diasporas who write in their mother language. I am curious as to how being raised within a different culture changes ones worldview.

>> No.16552516

>>16552108
>It's better than that of Scandinavia
What are you talking about? Scandis still have:
>Kierkegaard
>Hamsun
>Ibsen
>Anderson
>Norse Mythology (Eddas, Sagas, etc.)
>Strindberg
As authors/works of international renown. There's only 20 million of them too.

>> No.16553282

This thread has proved that /lit/ is 80% ESL—at the least.

>> No.16553350

>>16552258
Which is just another variant:
>In the end, by multiplying speech rate by information density, all languages, no matter how different, may be shown to convey information at a rate of roughly 39 bits per second.

>> No.16553606

>>16553350
No, it isn't. Information density is snytagm length for a given morpheme. In the written word, you can't compensate an inefficient morpheme by increasing speech rate. In short, some languages can say more with less ink.

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16553807

Glück ist die Mutter des Unglücks

>> No.16555219
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16555219

>>16553807
Ah yes, Glück, another fine Anglo writer.

>> No.16556081

Is Machines Like Us good?

>> No.16556391

>>16551969
Fenian terrorist scum.

>> No.16556747

A lot of seething ESL's in here

>> No.16556803

>>16552259
Bi lingualism, anglo

>> No.16556804
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16556804

>>16556747
They're threatened by the majesty of our language. I don't begrudge them that; I only pity them that they will never be able to experience life as a first-language English speaker.

>> No.16556823

>>16556804
English is my first language (i can speak broken spanish) and i am not impressed by our language, romance languages mog it

Plus everything okay about english just comes from french

>> No.16556855

Ummm guys has Churchill’s statue been taken out of the cuckbox? ArchieLeroy Jackson, son of Duke Harry is visiting soon

>> No.16556915

>>16551969
There has never been a more irrelevantly pathetic country than Ireland. Their ONLY significance comes from their association with Britain, and emigrating to British colonies.

>> No.16556926

>>16556915
>he doesn't know
https://imgur.com/gallery/opBuw

>> No.16556972

>>16556823
rootless cosmopolitan. thinking a hovel better then your own home does not make you enlightened

>> No.16556979

The greatest writer of the English language is P.G. Wodehouse. People who disagree only do so because their minds are burdened by the desire to suck cock.

>> No.16557710

>>16556979
But anon, that's not Robert Browning.

>> No.16558395
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16558395

here the anglo comes
from the ruins of westerndom
he who might say
alas i´m the first
NO! cries his nigger puppet
NO!
the anglo weeps
the white man´s burden runs through his veins
his puritanism
egocentrism
barbarism
bastard daughter of Rome
who he robbed the West from its greatness
why why cried the nigger
anglo see amongs his ruins
among himself
a soulless being
chief perpetrator of madness

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16559254

>ESLs after 5 minutes of not complaining about anglos

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>>16551764
Reading some of John Smith's stuff in regards to his time at James Town. It is like reading about Chad conquering the Indians
>sails around trading with Indians, to the point that they follow his barge in canoes giving stuff to him in hope he will trade with them
>goes out on a trip with some hired Indians and gets ambushed
>other Englishmen take 20-30 arrows before dying
>Smith takes an Indian hostage with his pistol after being struck with an arrow in the leg that he specifically notes did not wound him
>convinces Indians he's important and needs to meet their "emperor"
>meets emperor
>goes from being a prisoner to an important trading ally by showing the Indian his compass, explaining that the world is round, what the moon and stars are, and saying his "dad" is king of the oceans and will wreck the Indians if they don't let him go
>gets lucrative deal for corn in exchange for hatchets, copper, and beads
>before letting him go Indians want him to fire his pistol to show to another tribe that they've allied with some one with guns
>Smith purposefully breaks his pistol so that they don't get to see it fired
I'm guessing Cortez's time in Mexico was a grander version of this but this is pretty awesome

>> No.16559464

>>16558395
>yet another literal who country is jealous of daddy
Shocking

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>>16559464