/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16545770]

How do you guys deal with getting a sore throat from subvocalizing? I've had to cut down on my reading at night because I keep losing my voice the next day. I've tried tea with honey and it helps a little bit but this sucks.

[Anonymous No.16545782]

>>16545770
I deal with it by not being a subvocalizing subhuman

[Anonymous No.16546143]

>>16545770
You're not subvocalizing mate. You're actually vocalizing

[Anonymous No.16546154]

>read book
>one character is said to have a heavy scottish accent
>cant do scottish accent
>cant read his lines
>have to drop book

does this happen to anyone else?

[Anonymous No.16546155]

>>16546143
That doesn't make any sense. I'm not making any noise.

[Anonymous No.16546157]

>>16545770
>subvocalizing
imagine being a literal retarded subhuman

[Anonymous No.16546159]

>>16545770
Just read in your head moron. You literally can't read without reading outloud under your breath? what a trogladyte.

[Anonymous No.16546161]

>>16545770
You have a weak throat. Perhaps it's a female/transsexual problem?

I never had anything similar to that. I didn't even know it was possible to get throat pain from subvocalizing.

[Anonymous No.16546162]

>>16546154
Just do an Irish accent, it is pretty much the same thing

[Anonymous No.16546164]

>>16546154
yes except i don't read

[Anonymous No.16546165]

>>16546161
Oh you're right, maybe I should cut down on my estrogen pills and it'll get better.

[Anonymous No.16546167]

>>16546154
nae laddie. I cun do a graet scoish achsent.

[Anonymous No.16546177]

>reading subvocally
>reading in your head
Shiggy diggy. If you were a example of thel /lit/erati you would read just like the ancients did – vocally and loudly

[Anonymous No.16546183]

>>16545770
>>16545667

[Anonymous No.16546200]

>>16546177
The only reason they did that was because at the time there were so few written works that you could have easily read all of them, so they were just reciting instead of reading.

[Anonymous No.16546213]

>>16546200
The logic doesn’t follow.

[Anonymous No.16546219]

>>16546213
If the only books you've read in your life are a few dozen treatises by some dudes written in latin and the Holy Bible why would you ever learn to read without vocalizing? The entire point of reading without vocalizing is to save time, these guys barely spent any time reading because there were no books.

[Anonymous No.16546240]

>>16546219
The logic doesn’t follow, sorry pseud.

[Anonymous No.16546248]

>>16546240
I'm just making shit up bro, thanks for playing. I've got to go take my tranny pills now!

[Anonymous No.16546281]

>>16546248
Make sure to dilate!

[Anonymous No.16546294]

>>16546200
no not true, they literally were unable to read silently. it was considered a rare talent. people being able to read silently is a relatively modern thing

[Anonymous No.16546306]

>>16546294
Why is that though? I find it hard to believe that people were less intelligent back then, unless they were all retards due to malnutrition.

[Anonymous No.16546418]

>>16546306
I'm just guessing but I think it may have something to do with how reading was taught. Maybe they didn't care enough to teach/practice reading without vocalizing. Reading was mostly done in a religious setting anyway.

[Anonymous No.16546493]

>>16546177
>he doesn’t absorb words directly into his subconscious without requiring any of the deliberate agency that verbs like ‘reading’ imply
ngmi

[Anonymous No.16546502]

>>16546493
>having to read anything
ngmi

[Anonymous No.16546560]

>>16545770
I fucking read virtually all day, I think this subvocalizing thing may be bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16546564]

What the fuck is subvocalizing
You don't read silently?

[Anonymous No.16546567]

>>16546306
you don't get, reading was a new thing back then

[Anonymous No.16546580]

>>16546294
based Ambrogio

[Anonymous No.16548018]

>>16545782
fpbp

[Anonymous No.16548050]

>>16546154
Some Scots in literature have gotten Count Dankula's voice in my head. And his laugh, also.

[Anonymous No.16548092]

>>16545770
my advice is to go suck on a dick, it helps

[Anonymous No.16548111]

>>16546219
>only a few books around 500 anno domini
You better be shitposting.

[Anonymous No.16548241]

Why does nobody point out that the throat has nothing to do with activity of subvocalizing.
It's like getting sore in your ears by seeing.

[Anonymous No.16548371]

>>16548241
The throat IS involved in subvocalizing. Reading is literally done by the eye picking up information, and the throat making micro-movements, that the brain then listens to. The internal monologue is processed by the same parts of the brain that process speech. That's the whole point of the meme, you actually can't NOT subvocalize. The fact that /lit/ memed redditors into actually stopping subvocalization, which resulted in them basically breaking their ability to read, is a testament to that.

[Anonymous No.16548381]

>>16546154
Never dropped a book because of it but it is very infuriating when I forget what a particular character used to/should sound like in my head. I have to stop reading for a few days to "reset" when that happens

[Anonymous No.16548478]

>>16548111
need to use this gif in Star Trek threads as it looks just like the new captain orc

[Anonymous No.16548544]

smoke a pack of cigarettes

[Anonymous No.16548782]

>>16548544
Cigs are gay, smoke a fat stogie instead

[Anonymous No.16548807]

>>16546154
if it's not written in accent it deserves being dropped

[Anonymous No.16548825]

>>16548782
nah smoking is cool. Zoomers are so out of touch with what is cool due to jewish propaganda that they can't even see why smoking is cool.

[Anonymous No.16548826]

>>16545782
holy b a s e d

[Anonymous No.16548827]

I don't get what subvocalization is supposed to be. Is it just like thinking?

[Anonymous No.16548839]

>need to use this gif in Star Trek threads as it looks just like the new captain orc

best post right here. I can't stand that new orc captain in Star Trek. She looks like Baby Sinclair from Dinosaurs

[Anonymous No.16548844]

>>16548371
>Subvocalization, or silent speech, is the internal speech typically made when reading; it provides the sound of the word as it is read.[1][2] This is a natural process when reading, and it helps the mind to access meanings to comprehend and remember what is read, potentially reducing cognitive load.[3]

>This inner speech is characterized by minuscule movements in the larynx and other muscles involved in the articulation of speech. Most of these movements are undetectable (without the aid of machines) by the person who is reading.[3]

What the fuck. Are you really trying to tell me that I cannot "hear" this sentence without my throat reacting in some way?

[Anonymous No.16548916]

>>16546493
i wish this were possible. actually this is why the apparent lack of subvocalisation is a lie or simply non-reading (skimmer cope). it seems we need triggers to paint stories to eachother and the unit 'word' and perhaps language in general follows from the physical and cognitive limitations of this.

[Anonymous No.16548932]

>>16548844
Yea. iirc you attempt to move your ear muscles in reaction to sound like other mammals would too.

[Anonymous No.16549420]

>>16548825
Smoking is cool, smoking cigarettes is gay
Cigarettes are for women and fags, men smoke cigars

[Anonymous No.16549452]

>>16545770
>sore throat from subvocalizing
What the hell are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.16550058]

>>16546162
Shut up.

[Anonymous No.16550150]

>>16548371
wait.
first: Is the Harold Bloom shit where they claim they don't subvocalize actually a meme?
second: Why can I "hear" any sound I want then? I can listen to Bach in my mind but I could not replicate the sounds the instruments make. Same with every other type of noise or imagining different sounding voices to subvocalize.

[Anonymous No.16550222]

Subvocalizing is a waste of time. It's the difference between listening to the dialogue in a show and reading the same line in closed captions in like 1/4 of the time. You'll never finish the Western canon if you don't suppress the subvocalization tendency.

[Anonymous No.16550254]

>>16545770
omg OP

you might have just solved one of my big health complaints holy shit

I read like 14 hours a day and really fast

hmmm

ty OP

[Anonymous No.16550439]

>>16550222
if you read all the poetry in the Western canon without at least subvocalizing you are a major faggot pseud

[Anonymous No.16550477]

>>16545770
Wait you guys seriously read aloud like preschoolers?