Antediluvian/Breakaway Civilization lit

[Anonymous No.16544420]

Recently I have been diving deep into the idea that civilization is much older than we are commonly told. I have read Fingerprints of the Gods years ago, and of course I can look into the books written by the speakers I have been listening to, but I was curious if any anons have recommendations on this. Furthermore, I was wondering if anyone has any advice on translations of the following:
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>Vedas
>Mahabharata
>Vaimanika Shastra
>Vimanavatthu
>Samarangana Sutradhara
>Rig Veda
>Kathasaritsagara
>Ramayana
>Arthasastra of Kautilya
>Bhagavata
Or anything relating to Merkabah mysticism. I'm also trying to trace the legend that the freemasons claim to trace back through the mystery schools of Greece to at least The Flood. So far I have heard of something called "The Gothic Text" of the Knights Templar that refers to a group who call themselves the freemasons (before they should exist) and that they "follow the religion of Noah" but I haven't found it.

Let's talk about books fellow kings.

[Anonymous No.16544453]

>>16544420
Based thread. I can only think of stuff like "Arctic Home in the Vedas" at the moment.

[Anonymous No.16544618]

>>16544453
The really funny thing about this stuff with the breakaway civilizations is listening to guys who have written like 25 books about NYMSA and the Sonora Aero Club and nazis before during and after the war, and they can rattle off dozens of German officers and titles and rigimines with a perfect accent and you can just feel how enraptured they are with the subject but then they have to be like
>but of course they were horrible etc etc
lol okay man

[Anonymous No.16545259]

none of you Guenon or Evola fags have anything do you you fuckin' shitposters

[Anonymous No.16545329]

>>16544420
Forum Borealis channel on youtube has a bunch of guests that deal with both of these themes. I'd also recommend, if you don't know already, Robert Sephr and specially Randall Carlson. Oh, and almost forgot, Michael Cremo's Forbidden Archaeology.

[Anonymous No.16545341]

>>16545329
forum borealis is in fact who I have been listening to lol

[Anonymous No.16545378]

>>16544420
Here is The Story of Atlantis and the Lost Lemuria, by W. Scott-Elliot
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21796/21796-h/21796-h.htm

You may also be interested in Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt: Advanced Engineering in the Temples of the Pharaohs by Christopher Dunn which is just about artifacts in Egypt that indicate high technology.

[Anonymous No.16545449]

>>16545341
Been a while since I listened to it, but I remember the host covers these and a bunch of other curious topics. I like his talks, his space is comfy as fuck. Robert Sephr is very prolific in his channel and has a couple books on the subject, he probably fits what you're searching for down to a T. Just remembered also, Manly P Hall, you can find a bunch of his lectures on youtube (the ones on Astrotheology are some of my favorites), or his book, Secret Teachings of All Ages.

[Anonymous No.16545465]

>>16545449
again I find the guys who have dedicated their lives to writing about the nazis and pronounce everything in a perfect german accent and obviously have a lot of admiration for them and passion about the subject having to pepper in AND OF COURSE THEY WERE HORRIBLE AS WE ALL KNOW. It seems like it comes with an implicit wink wink attached lol

[Anonymous No.16545470]

>>16545465
for got to finish the first sentence
>again I find the guys (...) *to be hilarous

[Anonymous No.16546612]

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[Anonymous No.16546624]

>>16544420
All we need to do is go down into the ocean to find the remnants

[Anonymous No.16546943]

>>16546624
The ocean and Antarctica and the deepest jungles and escavating the deserts and...

[Anonymous No.16547292]

>>16544420
Best I can suggest is pre flood and flood myths
Aside from the account in Genesis
>deucalion
>Mesopotamian one
>native Americans accounts
>Egyptian mythology
There's also a Greek myth in which Zeus goes to a kings house and discovers that he is a cannibal and for this sends the flood.
Also, Prometheus (who warns deucalion) is thought by some to be a garbled version of one of the names for the Mesopotamian equivalent of Noah
This leads me to wonder if Deucalion is japeth and Helen is Javan
Beginning of our history pretty much doesn't exist outside of myths so those are always a good place to look

[Anonymous No.16547297]

>>16544420
>I'm also trying to trace the legend that the freemasons claim to trace back through the mystery schools of Greece to at least The Flood. So far I have heard of something called "The Gothic Text" of the Knights Templar that refers to a group who call themselves the freemasons (before they should exist) and that they "follow the religion of Noah"
Tell me more

>>16546943
Isn't there also a city under the black sea

[Anonymous No.16548174]

>>16547297

And in north sea

[Anonymous No.16549132]

>>16547297
I have heard through years of being /x/ that masons claim to trace themselves ultimately to Cain. However, the supposed origin story is Hiram Abiff and Solomon's temple which is further supposed to just be the masons religious beliefs because they are supposed to be a relatively recent organization. There is also the turbo normie cover story about how they simply had handshakes for the trade of masonry in antiquity ( I'm not saying this much isn't true just that it is not the entire story). Obviously, short of a vision from God or joining the freemasons and summoning the devil I am never going to be able to confirm that they are the descendants of Cain, but I want to dig as deeply as I can.

[Anonymous No.16549227]

>>16549132
The Islamic tradition states that the Temple was built by jinns under the command of Prophet Solomon. It's an interesting story in light of the freemason claims.

[Anonymous No.16549271]

Just thought of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C4%81%E1%B9%87ini

Pāṇini is basically the foundation of linguistics and in many ways still exceeds it conceptually. He is just one late example in a clearly long tradition, yet already ancient.

[Anonymous No.16549367]

>>16549271
he is the inventor of formal systems as well

[Anonymous No.16549370]

>>16549271
Hes also a type of sandwich :3

[Anonymous No.16550124]

>>16544420
Ive mapped it all out already mang.

[Anonymous No.16551425]

>>16545378
The only primary source on Atlantis is Timaeus. Anything else is genre fiction.

[Anonymous No.16551526]

>>16550124
This image exists in a based/cringe superposition

[Anonymous No.16551632]

>>16551425
You don't know that.

[Anonymous No.16552710]

>>16551632
What if he did?

[Anonymous No.16552735]

Has anyone else read the Adam and Eve story by Chan Thomas? What were you thoughts on it?

[Anonymous No.16553084]

>>16544420
There was that independent journalist who, along with a geologist, proved the sphinx was much older than the Pyramids...possibly pre-flood. Interesting stuff.

[Anonymous No.16553107]

>>16553084
John Anthony West and the other fella yeah. I'm already fully aboard that train but definitely interesting guys. All of the relevant dudes on this topic have some of joe rogans better interviews. Like I mentioned in the OP I read fingerprints of the gods and it made younger me do a serious think, but Graham Hancock has fallen for the 'bro psychedelics changed my life' pill so I'm hesitant to read more by him. I like to trip don't get me wrong but I don't want to read generic new agey shit

[Anonymous No.16553710]

>>16553107
>bro psychedelics changed my life pill
this, Hancock I love you bro but please stop sucking McKenna's dick

[Anonymous No.16555407]

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[Anonymous No.16555451]

>>16544420
Check out Thor Heyerdal, especially "lasst sie endlich sprechen" which covers the ancient maya stories of white and red bearded gods coming from the east over the water and teaching them everything. America BC is also a good read.

You should also watch the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_inGOubEg&t

[Anonymous No.16555500]

>>16553107
Indeed. I, too, lost all interest in him after he gone out of his way to shill for psychodelics like a tard. He really didn't conider what an image that paints of him to the general public.

[Anonymous No.16555541]

>>16552735
Yes. It's okay, it doesn't give much more information than Graham Hancock.
>>16553107
There is a possibility that Hancock and the likes (Joe Rogan himself) are agents of the deep State in a plan of soft disclosure.
In brief, the gods they are talking about weren't necessary benevolent, and might still have a strong grip in current affairs.

[Anonymous No.16555655]

Robert E. Howard. Stories about Conan the Barbarian and Kull the Conqueror, as well as his essay Hyborian Age.

[Anonymous No.16555669]

i want to learn sanskrit to read this old aryan stuff, good idea?

[Anonymous No.16555709]

>>16545259
Seethe and dilate.

[Anonymous No.16555723]

>>16544420
This author is liberal, but he does good research that you can then further verify.
It's a great QRD on Sundaland (glacial maximum Indonesia was a lush subcontinent) as the Dravidian Homeland, among other things, including Gobekli Tepe shit (thankfully this is on b-ok and libgen)

[Anonymous No.16555731]

>>16544420
Also you should read the straightforward un-commentaried translations of Bhagavata Purana, Markandeya Purana, Rig Veda and most especially Ramayana by Bibek Debroy.
Ramayana is stunningly good and informative of the Persian (Aryan) invasion of Dravidian India.

And as that other guy said: Arctic Home In The Vedas

[Anonymous No.16555778]

>>16555731
Any recommended editions?

[Anonymous No.16555780]

>>16555669
If you're under 12 and have access to a good private tutor it's definitely worth it, otherwise no.
I had to take Sanskrit for 6 months and at the end of the class it still took me an hour to parse a handful of sentences. You're also probably going to want to learn Vedic Sanskrit rather than Classical Sanskrit for that "old Aryan stuff", whatever it's supposed to mean, which is even more archaic and with less instructional material.

[Anonymous No.16555800]

'Ate floods

Ruins me crops
Ruins me house
Ruins me civ

Am anti-diluvian
Simple as

[Anonymous No.16556127]

>>16555709
>why yes we are useless chatbot shitposters, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.16556133]

>>16555780
>whatever its supposed to mean
Imagine being this much of a passive aggressive little faggot

[Anonymous No.16556137]

>>16555451
I love thor heyerdal, are there any english translations of this book, or at least norwegian? My norwegian is better than my german lmao.

[Anonymous No.16556149]

>>16556133
What exactly was it supposed to mean?

[Anonymous No.16556173]

>>16556137
Pretty sure, Thor was norwegian and the german edition is only a translation.

[Anonymous No.16556190]

>>16555778
Just the copies that are on libgen (Bibek Debroy is the best translator for anything Vedic)
I think there's only the one scan of Arctic Home on archive.org so there's that too.

[Anonymous No.16556199]

>>16556173
I just found a copy in norwegian, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.16556207]

A far out but undeniably on-to-something couple of books are The Cryptoterrestrials by Tonies and on a similar but less obvious track The Eighth Tower by Keel.

Also the first book of Peter Levenda's Sinister Forces Trilogy is good shit.

[Anonymous No.16556229]

>>16544420
You want these
https://archive.org/details/the-golden-cord-serrano_202008/Adolf%20Hitler%2C%20The%20Ultimate%20Avatar%20%28%20PDFDrive.com%20%29

[Anonymous No.16556337]

>>16555541
>In brief, the gods they are talking about weren't necessary benevolent, and might still have a strong grip in current affairs.
I have a philosophy major buddy and we discuss this for hours every week. Obviously you pretty much hit bedrock after a certain point, but we're leaning towards either "the elite are getting this basically magic from basically satan" or "the people in charge have the knowledge from before the flood, and are greedy bastards, and maybe the pre-flood society was also a massive wealth discrepancy slave society too"

[Anonymous No.16556344]

>>16556149
>doubling down
What is it with womanly fags like you and this idea that (extremely transparently) pretending to be ignorant will paradoxically make you look like you have the intellectual high ground? This is very common. You just look like a faggot.

[Anonymous No.16556357]

>>16556229
>>16544420
Start with The Golden Cord

[Anonymous No.16556417]

>>16556229
Cringe

[Anonymous No.16556424]

>>16556417
WTF I HATE SERRANO NOW

[Anonymous No.16556472]

>>16556357

Green light yourself

>>>/biz/23192183

[Anonymous No.16556561]

this thread is a misunderstanding

[Anonymous No.16556579]

>>16556561
>humans just hung out in the woods for 192,000 years until Sumer appeared fully formed if you just discount any new archeological discoveries of the last 5 decades
No!

[Anonymous No.16556587]

>>16556472
>>16556561

>>16556490

[Anonymous No.16556685]

>>16556561
Triune Brain is the more compelling and explanatory model.

[Anonymous No.16556720]

>>16556207
>cryptoterrestrials are Umbaran
Wtf I love cryptoterrestrials now!

[Anonymous No.16556733]

>>16556587
>>16556561

Hermes can be thought of as the God voice in bicameralism. Hermes (who is also variously known as Atlantiades, Thoth, Enoch, Mercury), the messenger of the gods or “god of travelers/boundaries”, literally means “heap of stones, boundary marker” or “breath, wind, life.” The duality from which this reference stems is life and death – the heap of stones at a gravesite that stands at the threshold between the material and spiritual.

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[Anonymous No.16556971]

>>16545329
Any other channels like this ?

[Anonymous No.16556980]

>>16545329
>Robert Sephr
holy based

[Anonymous No.16557029]

>>16556971
Secretspaceprogram