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Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:01:08 2020 No.16529891 [Reply] [Original]

>He used to say that debauched men resembled figs growing on a precipice; the fruit of which is not tasted by men, but devoured by crows and vultures
>Once he saw a youth studying philosophy, and said to him, “Well done; inasmuch as you are leading those who admire your person to contemplate the beauty of your mind."
>He was once addressed by a youth beautifully adorned, who asked him some question; and he refused to give him any answer, till he satisfied him whether he was a man or a woman.
>He saluted a harp player who was always left alone by his hearers, with, “Good morning, cock;” and when the man asked him, “Why so?” he said, “Because you, when you sing, make every one get up.”
>And when, on another occasion, some one said to him, “The people of Sinope condemned you to banishment,” he replied, “And I condemned them to remain where they were.”

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:09:40 2020 No.16529957 >>16529891 diogenes would be a trump supporter in 2020

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:11:55 2020 No.16529972 >>16529957 No, if he were american he would emigrate

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:12:54 2020 No.16529981 >>16529957 He would mock zogbot supporters and vote for a 3rd party

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:13:06 2020 No.16529983 >>16529891 >>Once he saw a youth studying philosophy, and said to him, “Well done; inasmuch as you are leading those who admire your person to contemplate the beauty of your mind." LIT ABSOLUTELY BTFO'D FROM 2400 YEARS AGO

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:14:20 2020 No.16529992 >And when, on another occasion, some one said to him, “The people of Sinope condemned you to banishment,” he replied, “And I condemned them to remain where they were.” This one got a laugh out of me

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 7 20:16:38 2020 No.16530008 >>16529972 >emigrate Didn't he live in and around cities specifically because they were dens for all the things he hated and rebuked people for? He'd love it there whether the US would be too much for even him to handle or not is a different matter

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 01:28:55 2020 No.16531421 >>16529891 Where can I find every anecdote about Diogenes? I have never heard some of these

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 02:50:50 2020 No.16531705 >>16529891 i dont get the philosophy one

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 03:19:44 2020 No.16531788 >>16529957 diogenes wouldn't even vote, fuckhead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 03:47:16 2020 No.16531857 >>16529957 he would be drinking disinfectant at a railroad station

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 03:57:13 2020 No.16531880 >>16529891 what is a "debauched man"

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Anonymous Thu Oct 8 07:33:47 2020 No.16532701

>>16531705
I think he's saying that it is only admirable if it is not done as a solitary but collective search: he can not just remain a philosopher, but must also lead those who admire him by letting them behold the fruits of his studies and following those.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 07:48:01 2020 No.16532779 >>16529957 >Diogenes >supporting any political party He was beyond all that

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 08:53:47 2020 No.16533086 >>16529957 He would be Trump, but even more of a sassy bitch

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Anonymous Thu Oct 8 08:59:29 2020 No.16533108

>>16529891
>And when, on another occasion, some one said to him, “The people of Sinope condemned you to banishment,” he replied, “And I condemned them to remain where they were.”
Lol next time someone tells me to fuck off I'll be like "and you stay there"

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Anonymous Thu Oct 8 10:50:29 2020 No.16533814
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>>16531705
>>16532701
I think it's way more likely that Diogenes is accusing the young man of being a bookstore slut and an hypocrite. In other words, the books are just an affectation that the man uses to attract a pederastic lover. Women in Ancient Greece and Rome wore veils in public and were basically excluded from society like in the Islamic world today, so this definitely doesn't refer to heterosexual attraction. The young man is probably just looking at books in order to look for an erastes, similar to how a woman today may hang out at a bookstore to attract a man. To such a woman a modern Diogenes might say "it's good that you want to settle down."

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 12:39:31 2020 No.16534657 >>16533814 Yes but this is the lesser interpretation. >>16532701 This is the greater. They aren't mutually exclusive though imo. >>16531421 Theres an oxford classics edition that has all of diogenes and a lot of other cynic sayings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 8 15:35:38 2020 No.16535880 >>16534657 Thanks man, out of the 3 replies you gave I was 1 and 3. I shall look for a pdf of oxford classics cynic sayings.