The Wheel of Time saga.

[Anonymous No.16528218]

I'm about 200 pages in the first volume and I gotta ask: does it get any better or will it stay this underwhelming?

I ask because there are 14 goddamn books, each of them around 700 pages, and I'm already struggling with Jordan's style. It's not as simplistic and dreadful as Brandon Sanderson's, but it's a far cry from what I was expecting. The cliches are abundant and the prose is dull and insipid. It's a drag.

Ok that it's muh genre fiction, but Christ. I had heard great things about this series.

[Anonymous No.16528278]

I got about 5 or 6 books into it and it really does not get better. It has no redeeming qualities.

[Anonymous No.16528284]

sorry for the irrelevant remark, but I read
>the world of papa
for some reason. I'm mentally breaking down it seems.

[Anonymous No.16528286]

i felt the same way, i quit before chapter 25. it's just travelling and talking about how exhausted they are with travelling.
fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.16528299]

>>16528218
I've found out that almost all epic, multi-volume fantasy sagas (Wheel of Time, Malazan, Stormlight Archive, even Lord of the Rings a little bit) are kind of underwhelming, don't really live up to the hype, and aren't really worth the massive time investments required. You'd be better off building and writing your own epic (which is what I'm doing)

[Anonymous No.16528311]

>>16528299
That's a bummer though. I was hoping to have something lengthy and nice to read.

[Anonymous No.16528317]

>>16528299
>Malazan
Tried it. Found the same problems WoT has. Dropped it after about 80 pages.

What about Dune though? Is that trash as well or good? The atmosphere and the story sound good.

[Anonymous No.16528346]

>>16528317
Dune goes to shit pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.16528350]

>>16528311
Check out Scott Bakker's books. I've been seeing a lot of people on here talking about them lately.

[Anonymous No.16528379]

>>16528346
I miss being 13 and finding pretty much any book interesting.

[Anonymous No.16528391]

>>16528350
Thanks, will do.

[Anonymous No.16528411]

>>16528317
>What about Dune
Dune is popular mainly for it's worldbuilding and the ideas it presents, but the writing is horribly dry and dull. Anything past the first four books that Frank Herbert himself wrote is even shittier since they're basically a cash-grab and an attempt to make some last little bits of money off the the series' name. Even the fans think they're garbage apparently.

Same thing with Game of Thrones; after the first three, things get really long-winded and you can tell GRRM really stretched it out and bit off more than he can chew, plus he probably won't finish the damn series anyways so there's that.

All the other reasonably long fantasy series are YA garbage, stuff like Harry Potter and Eragon. To be completely honest, the only multi-book fantasy series I've ever read that didn't feel like it was milked or stretched out was The Chronicles of Narnia, probably because each of the books is really short (only about 200 pages If I recall correctly), and each one takes place in a different time period and a different location, so they all feel really episodic and fast-paced. The only problem with Narnia is that it was written for kids, and has some very heavy Christian allegories.

[Anonymous No.16528412]

>>16528379
>ywn be 13 years old again
>on a rainy saturday afternoon
>with the new Stephen King or Animorphs book to read.

[Anonymous No.16528420]

>>16528411
>it's
Goddammit I hate americans.

[Anonymous No.16528436]

>>16528420
excuse me for not having the most proper grammar when shitposting on a mongolian chicken-frying forum. Also
>americans
can't even be bothered to capitalize all your nours, eh?

[Anonymous No.16528442]

>>16528411
>garbage, stuff like Harry Potter and Eragon
Come on, you can't put the two at the same level. I've read both at the right age (teen) and while HP was entertaining (interesting world, captivating misteries, tight writing, decent sense of humour, fairly original too), Eragon was just fucking garbage with NO redeeming qualities whatsoever. Even as a teen, I found it boring, cliched and worthless.

Sad thing is that HP is prolly on the higher end of the scale, as far as fantasy series go.

[Anonymous No.16528450]

>>16528436
It was lower case on purpose, american.

>I-I can't b-be expected to w-write correctly on an i-imageboard
The usual ameritard excuse. Every goddamn time I see someone making 2nd grade mistakes, it's an ameritard. Every goddamn time.

[Anonymous No.16528514]

>>16528450
Yet you are here, in an american website.

[Anonymous No.16528531]

>>16528514
It's a japanese website now.

[Anonymous No.16528540]

>>16528514
>hurr durr it's an american website so I don't have to follow proper grammar.
Mongoloid. At least on the goddamn literature board, try to write like a human.

[Anonymous No.16529222]

No wonder the guy could churn out 14 books at 700 pages each when the writing is so bland.

[Anonymous No.16529244]

>>16528436
Now I want KFC, thanks asshole.

[Anonymous No.16529256]

>>16528317
Dune is awesome. Seriously good books.

>>16528411
>doesn't even know how many books Frank wrote
He wrote six, and they're all good. The last two are admittedly weird, but they're not a cash grab at all. Those are the ones his son "wrote" and frankly most readers consider them fan fiction at best.
I know what you're saying about the quality of the prose, but I find his style matches the subject matter. I enjoyed how he writes, I found it clean and clear.

[Anonymous No.16529341]

>>16528218
>Does it get any better?
No. There's like one decent battle 6 odd books in and when realising that as I read it I got mad that I was 6 books in.

[Anonymous No.16529378]

>>16528442
Hey I liked Eragon, and I read it at 30. I'm admittedly a sucker for comfy genre fiction in a classic fantasy setting though. So... care to recommend any other fantasy you thought was terrible?

[Anonymous No.16529410]

>>16528218
I think it peaks around the third book, then it falls off until maybe the last book or two?

[Anonymous No.16529429]

>>16529378
>I liked Eragon, and I read it at 30
Fucking Christ... and nobody called you a worthless brainlet. The state of /lit/ in 2020.

[Anonymous No.16529435]

>>16529341
>6 odd books in
Imagine forcing yourself to swallow something like 4000 pages of shitty prose for NO reason.

[Anonymous No.16529444]

>>16529378
Not him but The Sword of Shannara, so bad it made me angry.

[Anonymous No.16529510]

The truth is there's virtually no "mediaeval" fantasy that's worth reading apart from the obvious ones (like LOTR and Conan). Most of those are dull and unoriginal and rely on cheap narratives to make the reader keep turning the page, and the "good things" you hear about them are all said by fanboys.

[Anonymous No.16529525]

>>16529510
I liked the harem aspect of WoT.

[Anonymous No.16529533]

>>16528218
I just started, I'm about 350 or 400 pages in? I forget. I have a bad habit of picking series with like 20 books or whatever the fuck to get into, and getting disappointed by the time I'm done. That being said, it reads like the old D&D games I used to play, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The characters were a bit weak in the beginning but they're growing on me.

[Anonymous No.16529566]

It is god awful

[Anonymous No.16529658]

>>16529429
>and nobody called you a worthless brainlet
People call me that all the time. I'm okay with it. Being smart hurt so I did drugs until I wasn't smart anymore. It's pretty comfy.

[Anonymous No.16529707]

>>16528218
>The cliches are abundant and the prose is dull and insipid. It's a drag.
Are you me? I forced my way though 2 books. I should have tossed the first book in the trash where it belongs after the first chapter.
>It's not as simplistic and dreadful as Brandon Sanderson's
When I read one of his books I thought, this must be some fat, virgin, shut-in Mormon. There honestly is not much worse. Maybe Stephanie Myer or Christopher Paolini.
But Paolini is a special kind of stupid.

[Anonymous No.16529757]

>>16529510
Legend by David Gemmell was a good read, I still eat oranges in summer and rub the juice on my forehead.

[Anonymous No.16529802]

>>16529757
The first couple books of the Rigante series were alright too, but the second two were pretty meh. Felt like a bait and switch with all the muskets and civil war.

[Anonymous No.16529803]

>>16528286
That's comfy though.

[Anonymous No.16529816]

>>16529803
/lit/ generally only likes books they feel are boring and difficult enough to read that they can be brag about having finished them.

[Anonymous No.16529906]

>>16528218
The series is ok, dropped it after reading five of the books. If you're not invested by the time you've finished Eye of the World just stop.

[Anonymous No.16529969]

It has 6 books worth of really substantive story and 7 books worth of bullshit. Yes, some of it is really really good, and every fucking book has 400+ too many goddamn pages of bitches shawls and what kind of stupid shit they had in their hair and earrings and shit. Some day I'd like to edit it down to the actual good 6 books it is.

[Anonymous No.16531350]

>>16528299
I more than halfway into the first stormlight and I actually really enjoy it so far

[Anonymous No.16531359]

>>16528218
>>16528218
peaks around five or six
worth reading the whole thing at least once

[Anonymous No.16531363]

>>16528299
disagree. same though, I got 50k words

[Anonymous No.16532086]

>>16529444
I read it at like 11 and liked it.
Would prolly hate it now that I'm over 30.

[Anonymous No.16532091]

>>16529510
>Conan
Really? That's good?

[Anonymous No.16532106]

>>16529658
>I did drugs until I wasn't smart anymore.
Unironically a genius move.

>I forced my way though 2 books.
Anon, take it from an older guy: NEVER force yourself to finish a shitty book. If it's shitty after the first 10%, it's almost certainly going to stay shitty or get worse.
You don't have time to waste on shitty books when there are so many good ones to read and re-read at different points of your life so you can grasp meanings you had previously missed.
If it's shit, and not because you don't get what's going on (that might be your fault) but because it's cliched, uninspired tripe, drop it without a shred of guilt. Be merciless.

[Anonymous No.16532118]

>>16529707
Do you want to be frens?

[Anonymous No.16532125]

>>16529803
It's not even the kind of repetitiveness that's comfy, it's just boring. A waste of time.

>>16529906
>If you're not invested by the time you've finished Eye of the World just stop.
>he thinks I'm gonna finish that 800 pages piece of shit.
>laughingspook.tiff

[Anonymous No.16532127]

>>16529816
Sometimes that's the case, yes. Not this time. These books are legit trash on all accounts.

[Anonymous No.16532129]

>>16531350
We used to beat up and hang people like you here. But that was the good /lit/.
I realized that book was trash 2 pages in, after the 8th cliché.

[Anonymous No.16532135]

>>16532091
The originals by Robert e Howard are pretty dope. Great writing style, not gonna change your life but really fun to read.

[Anonymous No.16532139]

I like it. It's not a serious work of literature or anything, but it's fun. I have a soft spot for epic overblown fantasy series so maybe I'm biased.
I've probably read the whole thing like 5 or 6 times.

[Anonymous No.16532481]

>>16532129
This. But for Thus Spoke Tharathustra

[Anonymous No.16532802]

>>16532139
>I've probably read the whole thing like 5 or 6 times.
Jesus fucking Christ...
14 obese books. Let's say they took you 10 hours each, it's almost 6 days of continuous reading, all to get trash.
All that time and effort, wasted.
Just like your existence.

[Anonymous No.16532807]

>>16532802
>it's almost 6 days of continuous reading
And he did it 5 or 6 times.

[Anonymous No.16532842]

>>16528379
Yup

[Anonymous No.16533016]

>>16532802
>>16532807
>nooooo you can't enjoy things!!!
Yeah sorry I didn't spend my time reading pretentious twitter posts and arguing about which obscure french philosopher was the best. Suck my nuts

[Anonymous No.16533913]

I think it develops into something interesting after the first book. It becomes more complicated and so it's interesting seeing the author tie all the stories together.
Anyway the next 100 pages (post shadar-logoth) should be better.