/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16525613]

What are you reading this week, anon?

[Anonymous No.16525623]

the collected works of vladimir lenin.

[Anonymous No.16525631]

The Tartar Steppe

[Anonymous No.16525641]

>>16525623
Why in the fuck are you doing that? Apart from his book on Russian agriculture Lenin was a polemical intervener. His works collected make no sense unless you already have a deep history of Russia and the early soviet union, and more so a deep history of the party and Russian left.

You're eating both barrels when you can't chew lead.

[Anonymous No.16525645]

>>16525613
I had a near mental breakdown last week (couldnt sleep for like two nights in a row) so I'm taking it nice and easy reading The Hobbit and smoking my Long Wooden Pipe with Bilbo.

[Anonymous No.16525651]

>>16525641
>Why in the fuck are you doing that?
Because he's a pseud and got it recommended to him by other pseuds who haven't read it themselves.

[Anonymous No.16525652]

>>16525641
i do have a deep understanding of the history of russia, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.16525664]

>>16525651
i began reading it after i finished a book series about russian communism. i never heard anyone talk about the works here, but found interest in them after reading about his life.

[Anonymous No.16525667]

>>16525613

Rereading some short stories of E.A. Poe and reading some of his short stories I haven't read before. Also rereading Junji Ito's Uzumaki and Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. I made a thread about Frankenstein's monster being the proto-incel: >>16525647

>>16525652
>>16525651
>>16525641
>>16525623

I think Lenin is that guy who brought a lot of misery onto Russia and the neighboring countries because his works started the Communist uprisings.

[Anonymous No.16525673]

>>16525652
Yet not of the party & left or early soviet union.

Think about how much more you could gain by reading a secondary source on Menshevik history, or SR factionalism pre 1917, or rural proletarians 1890-1920?

[Anonymous No.16525688]

>>16525667
>because his works started the Communist uprisings.
Jesus fuck cunt. Jesus fuck.

Jesus fuck.

…

…

Bolshevism did not start communist uprisings. Bolshevism was an intelligentsia tendency with minimal proletarian penetration.

Only in Germany did maximalists have any penetration into the factories, and that was because most maximalists were factory committeemen. And the KAPD reads radically different to Leninism.

[Anonymous No.16525690]

>>16525673
>Yet not of the party & left or early soviet union
yes i do, it's part of russian history.
>Think about how much more you could gain by reading a secondary source on Menshevik history
i want to read lenin, not martov, why the fuck is that pissing you off?

[Anonymous No.16525699]

>>16525613
Greeks like every other week for the rest of the year

[Anonymous No.16525704]

>>16525688

But still, if it weren't for the works of Lenin who gave rise to Stalin and Stalinism, Eastern Europe would not have to go through that Communist Empire that got people thrown into gulags or died because of famines.

[Anonymous No.16525709]

>>16525613
Depends on whether I'm being brainwashed or not

[Anonymous No.16525726]

>>16525690
Did I say a primary source on mensheviks?

Because Lenin is like Mary Mother of Christ and every dumb fuck with an erection tries to penetrate her.

Because you look like the idiot masturbating in the corner at the school dance.

Because *LENIN IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT.* Trotsky was a better fuck. Stalin is more interesting psychologically. The RSDLP(b) is irrelevant to the revolution until 1918.

Lenin was a jerk in hand until mid 1918 when the left SRs fucked themselves in public, and then he died. His theory is utterly irrelevant to revolutionary praxis because he was a bourgeois intellectual, and he is an attractor of useless bourgeoisified intellectuals, with the exception of working class organisers who took basic left history from intro texts and used them to go out at night and [actually unlawful to express where I live despite being history.]

And because if you're reading him as biography your historiographical reading is offensively bad.

[Anonymous No.16525742]

>>16525688
heh

penetration

[Anonymous No.16525746]

>>16525726
Thanks for this anon, was about to read lenin myself. Recommend any good books on russian rev?

[Anonymous No.16525749]

>>16525726
wow you sure know a lot about lenin. i can only hope to be as wise as you, when i'm done reading his works.

[Anonymous No.16525758]

>>16525613
Anna Karenina

[Anonymous No.16525767]

>>16525726
>>16525746

Wow, /leftypol/ surely is infesting 4chan.

[Anonymous No.16525768]

>>16525704
>But still, if it weren't for the works of Lenin who gave rise to Stalin and Stalinism, Eastern Europe would not have to go through that Communist Empire that got people thrown into gulags or died because of famines.

Have you ever considered a historical materialist critique of actually existing leninism?

It isn't like Lenin was some nofap wizard who magically instantiated twenties of millions of people to produce capitalism with soviet characteristics.

Try Sheila Fitzpatrick and Andrle.

[Anonymous No.16525770]

End of a Family Story by Nádas and Vollmann's Afghanistan Picture Show

[Anonymous No.16525778]

>>16525746
Sheila Fitzpatrick on the nomenklatura. Andrle on the proletariat. Both focus on "high stalinism" in the 1930s, which of course wasn't stalinism but an entire movement of nomenklatura.

[Anonymous No.16525781]

>>16525613
Starting the Odyssey, finishing Youth by Tolstoy.

[Anonymous No.16525789]

>>16525768

I'm not interested in becoming indoctrinated into Communism or the violent cult of Antifa.

[Anonymous No.16525802]

>>16525613
The First Philosophers

[Anonymous No.16525811]

Also Simon Pirani on 1918-1921 urban working class demands and their accomodation to the Leninists via a demand for food and fabric.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57F7_XUFHyc

[Anonymous No.16525863]

>>16525789
…You failed HIST1000 and went into architecture didn't you?

[Anonymous No.16525873]

>>16525613
Anything I feel like

>>16525623
I've just started on the collected works of Stalin

>>16525704
I like the gulags for creating some great literature.
Though I wish they weren't so harsh with their censorship and drove writers to their grave, like treat them how you want but let them live and write/publish!

[Anonymous No.16525875]

>>16525863

In college, I was an Art and History student. Then an English literature professor convinced me to switch to English Literature and I added East Asian Studies as the associate's degree I would work towards since it still had history courses. That was a mistake, should have stuck with History and Art.

[Anonymous No.16525877]

>>16525613
As I lay Dying. It’s hard to understand sometimes, I think I’m a brainlet. I love the language but I’m reading it slowly.

[Anonymous No.16525987]

>>16525873
>I've just started on the collected works of Stalin
See now this is based and acceptable. And I'm the left com attacking the sad trot. Also tankies put out. Trots only recruit with their minge.

[Anonymous No.16525992]

>>16525613
Gaston Bachelard's "The Poetics of Reverie".

[Anonymous No.16525997]

>>16525613
On Power by Bertrand de Jouvenel

[Anonymous No.16526085]

>>16525767
>I only read the works of people I agree with.

[Anonymous No.16526102]

>>16526085
He thinks all people think ideologically. Stop teasing the cripple. He'll never be better than what he is.

[Anonymous No.16526122]

>>16526102
if you're talking about me, the lenin-reader, you should know i am not a leninist. i am just interested in my history.

[Anonymous No.16526130]

>>16525613
I read a book on my country culture. It is sad that not many young people care about our culture anymore (an asean country). The ones who read only read how to get rich stuff and the ones who don't are mostly westernboos, weaboos, or koreanboos. It's even more saddening that after reading the book I realize how rich and colorful our culture used to be

[Anonymous No.16526132]

>>16525688
>maximalist
Nigga go back to ur grand strategy forums this is a literature board

[Anonymous No.16526163]

>>16526122
You've demonstrated you think biography is determinate. That's functionally bourgeois thought, and thus functionally leninism.

[Anonymous No.16526176]

>>16526130
Which cunt?

[Anonymous No.16526180]

about half way thru infinite jest currently

[Anonymous No.16526185]

>>16526163
>You've demonstrated you think biography is determinate.
i said i began reading lenin's works after finishing a book series about russian communism.
>That's functionally bourgeois thought, and thus functionally leninism.
that can be many things.

[Anonymous No.16526199]

>>16526185
Look enjoy thinking that individual consciousnesses are historical. You've repeatedly claimed you're not a shit cunt while demonstrating the same. I'm not going to change your opinion because only the self-interested relationship to production changes opinions.

[Anonymous No.16526216]

>>16526199
i don't think i disagreed with your opinion. i'm too busy arguing with your false perception of me. you're telling me i act leninist and i shouldn't read something you haven't even read yourself, ironic.

[Anonymous No.16526228]

>>16526176
vietnam

[Anonymous No.16526237]

>>16525613
the I hate w0men omnibus which I'm drafting right now

[Anonymous No.16526239]

>>16526228
Was thinking either Vietnam or Indonesia. Spent a year in Indonesia, amazing culture I am sure it is the same in Vietnam.

[Anonymous No.16526247]

>>16526216
I've read selected. I've read a bunch of non-selected. I've had to deal with trots and tankies all my life.

It is as absurd as reading Imre Nagy's works unless you're a hungarian specialist doing 1947-1963.

[Anonymous No.16526252]

>>16525613
Plato

[Anonymous No.16526271]

>>16526239
Not anymore, most are now lost save some customs that I imagine would not last longer than this generation. We are heading to be a bastardization of the soulless burgerpunk trope

[Anonymous No.16526283]

>>16525613
The Greek Plays of Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides

[Anonymous No.16526284]

>>16526247
i am a russian. i want to know about my history. if that makes you mad, you're the tankie. don't call me absurd.

[Anonymous No.16526292]

>>16526284
>I am russian
>don't call me absurd
>i know russia

Now who is being naïve Marge?

[Anonymous No.16526293]

I'm re-reading the Iliad right now, Fitzgerald tl. I've already read Hpmer but not Virgil so I'm thinking this month I'll go Iliad -> Aeneid > Odyssey.

[Anonymous No.16526296]

>>16526271
That's a fucking shame man, Indos really keep at it, preserving their culture, customs and rituals and art but even they feel the tide of faceless multikulti consumerism coming.

[Anonymous No.16526302]

>>16525613

I realized I never read anything by a Japanese author, and got curious about them, so I picked up "Confessions of a mask" and "No longer human".

I'm about halfway through the latter and so far I love it. I guess there is a lot about japanese culture and prewar japan there that goes right over my head but much of it feels timeless.

[Anonymous No.16526380]

>>16525770
Thoughts on Nádas?

[Anonymous No.16526469]

The 48 Laws of Power

[Anonymous No.16526473]

>>16525613
Trade law.

[Anonymous No.16526611]

>>16525613
>Fathers and Sons by Turgenev
>The Wayward Bus by Steinbeck
>My First Summer in the Sierra by Muir
>Blake's Poetry and Designs
>Homer's Iliad
>Revelations

[Anonymous No.16526624]

>>16525645
faggot

[Anonymous No.16526634]

>>16526302
Dazai was an exceptional writer. Most fiction is meh compared to No longer human

[Anonymous No.16526652]

>>16525645
based, stay comfy fren

>>16526624
cringe

[Anonymous No.16526681]

>>16526652
>>16525645
samefag

[Anonymous No.16526719]

>>16526380
He's good, even great, but can be a bit dense. Weirdly there is much less stuff about body experiences, than in his later work (cf. Paralell stories)

Definetly read up on Simon Magus and Old Testament, before you start this. I kinda got lost. And maybe some historical context on the 50s of Hungary, it gets more menacing then.

[Anonymous No.16526756]

>>16525877
Faulkner is a master, I hope you enjoy it til the end.

[Anonymous No.16526835]

The brothers karamazov by Dostoevsky

[Anonymous No.16526849]

>>16525877
Second readings of Faulkner are always eye-opening.

[Anonymous No.16526982]

>>16526085

No, it's just that /leftypol/ is trying to shove their politics and ideology down people's throat at 4chan when they have YouTube, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram and many other social media platforms under leftist control. Not only that, but lefties will attack you if you don't conform a hundred percent to what their ideology is.

[Anonymous No.16526989]

>>16526085

No, it's just that /leftypol/ is trying to shove their politics and ideology down people's throat at 4chan when they have YouTube, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram and many other social media platforms under leftist control. Not only that, but lefties will attack you if you don't conform a hundred percent to what their ideology is.

>>16526102

Fuck off back to /leftypol/.

[Anonymous No.16526990]

>>16525613
God, I want that finger in my asshole so much

[Anonymous No.16526995]

STOP JEZEBEL POSTING. I am reading Flannery O'Connor's short story collection A Good Man is Hard to Find. "The Artificial Nigger" is unironically the best non-Kafka short I've ever read

[Anonymous No.16527002]

>>16525767
>>16526982
>>16526989
Obsessed.

[Anonymous No.16527018]

>>16527002

/leftypol/ has been raiding /pol/ for the past couple of days or weeks. It's bad enough their Antifa counterparts on the streets have been committing destruction and mayhem, even starting massive wild fires. Now they are trying to conquer 4chan when they have every other social media platform under their control. I remember watching a news video where this left wing woman who is trying to be a vegan was saying that every thing a person does is political. Like wtf? She's like that Ingsoc party from Orwell's 1984.

[Anonymous No.16527026]

>>16525623
I tried reading Imperialism and didn't really understand it well. Maybe, I am gay.

[Anonymous No.16527033]

The Collapse of Complex Societies by Joseph Tainter

and

The Book of Disquiet by Fernando Pessoa

and

Capital and Ideology by Thomas Piketty.

I'm reading Tainter and Pessoa for myself and I'm reading Piketty for school. I'll probably only read a few pages of Piketty though, I don't aim to finish his whole book for a long while.

[Anonymous No.16527042]

>>16527026
>Maybe, I am gay
You will be when i'm done with you

[Anonymous No.16527046]

>>16527018
No one cares, stop sperging.

[Anonymous No.16527050]

>>16527002
Try again

[Anonymous No.16527076]

>>16527042
ugh please, being gay would be way easier than trying to date women in 2020

[Anonymous No.16527159]

Storm of Steel, last week Brothers Karamazov

>>16525645
>couldnt sleep for like two nights in a row
4 nights is when it starts getting interesting, maybe 5

[𒂊𒊑𒀁𒌅 !!ph+3gMFUUxd No.16527211]

Just started this yesterday. Bready gomfy so far.

[Anonymous No.16527252]

>>16527211
looks interesting, did you have much background knowledge of that period of history before reading or would it be a good read for someone who doesn't know much about that time?

[Anonymous No.16527263]

>>16525613
Au bonheur des dames. I want to finish this series.

[Anonymous No.16527279]

Found this edition in a used bookstore for really cheap so I bought it. I think the translation is terrible and there are a lot of errors in it. I wish I had gotten a different edition. I think a lot of the appeal of it seems to be in the vivid psychological descriptions, but they are very hit or miss in this translation imo

[𒂊𒊑𒀁𒌅 !!ph+3gMFUUxd No.16527286]

>>16527252
>did you have much background knowledge
Yes but the first two chapters do a really good job of laying a foundation for those who aren't familiar with how things were going in early-medieval Northern Britain. Clarkson goes over
>what his sources are
>why he chose them
>where they come from (and what's "wrong" with them)
I had a pretty good background in the subject beforehand (took some relevant uni classes, read some other books, wiki, etc.) but I've still learned a lot in the first 40 or so pages. Definitely recommend.

[Anonymous No.16527294]

The 'Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus', last week 'Wittgenstein's Vienna'

[Anonymous No.16527326]

The first man by Camus and The history of art by Gombrich.

[Anonymous No.16527346]

>>16527286
Cool I used to live in Scotland and I've been interested in reading some about early scottish history up through medieval times. I'll put this on my list. Would you happen to have any recs on books about the Picts?

[Anonymous No.16527410]

Prometheus Rising
I wanted to become /x/pilled but I got stuck

[𒂊𒊑𒀁𒌅 !!ph+3gMFUUxd No.16527465]

>>16527346
The same author, Tim Clarkson, has at least one book (pic) that focuses on the Picts but I haven't read it yet. He also has "The Makers of Scotland: Picts, Romans, Gaels and Vikings", but I suspect that Picts aren't the main focus and I also haven't read it. The Picts are kind of tricky because we have an absolute paucity of (reliable) sources. AFAIK they only wrote a tiny amount of Ogham, which is almost worthless for modern historians. You could also check out James E. Fraser's "From Caledonia to Pictland: Scotland to 795" or Alex Woolf's "From Pictland to Alba: 789-1070". While I haven't read these two either, I have read a later book from the same series that was really good and was recommended to me by one of my profs.

[Anonymous No.16527642]

>>16527465
Awesome, thanks for the recs

[Anonymous No.16527678]

>>16527642
the fag's recs are not worth a minute.

[𒂊𒊑𒀁𒌅 !!ph+3gMFUUxd No.16527687]

>>16527678

[Anonymous No.16527711]

>>16525623
I see the crypto-capitalists are out

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.16527715]

>>16527687
Wrong picture, Cunei

[Anonymous No.16527727]

>>16527715

[Anonymous No.16527855]

>>16527026
Read what is to be done. Even the simplest idiot can misunderstand that.

[Anonymous No.16528017]

>>16525613
pic related

[Anonymous No.16528025]

>>16525641
I was trolling you dumbfuck. Why would I actually read that? Kek.

[Anonymous No.16528030]

I'm reading David Copperfield by Dickens. Afterwards, I'm planning on reading Ovid's Metamorphoses (Mandlebaum translation).

[Anonymous No.16528037]

I've decided to get into the Halloween spirit by reading a 1000+ tome containing the works of Edgar Allan Poe.

[𒂊𒊑𒀁𒌅 !!ph+3gMFUUxd No.16528139]

>>16527715
Alba gu bràth, my lesbian friend.

[Anonymous No.16528196]

>>16525613
Wittgenstein's Tractatus. Is there any edition with explanations and brief commentary? I've been struggling with the plain text, even though I've got relevant prior knowledge.

[Anonymous No.16528216]

>>16528196
this.

[Anonymous No.16528262]

Joyce, just finished Portrait of the Artist, starting Ulysses tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.16528318]

The crying of lot 49. Kinda boring