ITT: Christian Books

[Anonymous No.16507598]

No Mormons.

[Anonymous No.16507639]

>>16507598
Well, here would be my "stack" of sorts:
The Holy Bible
St Augustine - Confessions
Thomas Aquinas- De Regno
Loyola - Spiritual Exercises
Dante - The Divine Comedy (for Catholics)
Milton - Pradise Lost (for Protestants)
Dostoyevski - Brothers Karamazov (for Orthodox)
Leo XIII - Rerum Novarum
Pius X - On Modernism
Guenon - Dante's Esoterism
Benedict XVI (then Ratzinger) - Introduction to Christianity

These would be the ones that I read and can recall right now, but as you can see, no particular order, nor did I read them one by one with no books in between.

[Anonymous No.16507661]

Based Bonhoeffer

[Anonymous No.16507688]

Inb4 LARPing cringelords

Oh wait, that’s every single neo-christian on this board, nevermind

[Anonymous No.16507840]

Orthodoxy

[Anonymous No.16507848]

>>16507598
Led miserables and the betrothed you may like. Idk why they don't get referenced more often in this context
>>16507688
Why so hostile?

[Anonymous No.16507854]

@16507688
stop bitching and contribute

[Anonymous No.16507857]

>>16507598

[Anonymous No.16507985]

Holiness

[Anonymous No.16507999]

>>16507598

[Anonymous No.16508011]

>>16507598
Kinda christian, but esoteric. Fun interesting read from an unknown author

[Anonymous No.16508040]

>>16507598

[Anonymous No.16508043]

Anyone have the breadpill reading list that can post it?

[Anonymous No.16508290]

>>16507598
You know it's true.

[Anonymous No.16509064]

[Anonymous No.16509164]

>>16508290
that its essentially christian in message?

[Anonymous No.16509300]

>>16507598
The Life of Moses by St. Gregory of Nyssa. Wonderful work on an allegorical understanding of Moses' life thus far, though I'm not particularly far into it yet.
No pic because phoneposting.
>Unrelated, but /lit/ should allow uploading pdf and epub like /tg/ imo

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>>16508290
>The Antichrist

[Anonymous No.16509328]

>>16507688
It's only the Catholics that are LARPers. The Prots aren't nearly as obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.16509342]

>>16507688
wut? noone has called you that yet and why would that even been prompted unless you post something intentionally off topic?

[Anonymous No.16509346]

This book is great. What books on Thomas Aquinas do you all like?

[Anonymous No.16509448]

[Anonymous No.16509816]

>>16509346
Jean-Pierre Torrell's introduction is the best one if you ever plan to go in hard with Aquinas.

[Anonymous No.16509995]

>>16507598
Pilgrim's Progress
The Holy War
The Clementine Recognitions
Practice of the Presence of God: The Best Rule of Holy Life by Lawrence, Brother
City of God
The Book of the Bee
Imitation of Christ
Book of Martyrs
The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola

[Anonymous No.16510015]

whats up with the mo- hate? most of them are nice

[Anonymous No.16510784]

>>16510015
wacky theology, no great literature

[Anonymous No.16510792]

>>16509327
Your point?

[Anonymous No.16512289]

This on was pretty great.

[Anonymous No.16512537]

>>16512289
Why are Pr*testants so numerous on /lit/? You know Catholicism is the counterculture, right?

[Anonymous No.16513098]

>>16512537
how is anybody supposed to answer this

[Anonymous No.16513521]

Are there any good books that explain Christian theology? Like I've read the Bible but I'm still confused on the Christian view of the afterlife.

Do we got to Heaven right away or do we enter some sort of slumber? Are we going to Heaven or are we going to be raised from the dead to partake in some Messianic kingdom?

[Anonymous No.16513580]

>>16513521
The Catechism of the Catholic Church.

[Anonymous No.16513622]

>>16513580
Anything Protestant?

[Anonymous No.16513644]

>>16513521
>>16513622
take note that the bible isn't entirely clear on that, just like it isn't entirely clear on whats in heaven
maybe our minds can't comprehend it, or it isn't our business quite yet

[Anonymous No.16513792]

>>16512537
if you're getting into catholicism because it's a "counter-culture" it's too late to help you anon

[Anonymous No.16513967]

>>16513521
>>16513622
Louis Berkhof, Wayne Grudem and James Montgomery Boice are good places to start, after that you really should read Calvin's Institutes of the Christian Religion.

[Anonymous No.16515002]

>>16509448
Christians are perpetuating their idiocy by not reading the quad

[Anonymous No.16515004]

>>16510784
‘Jesus the Christ’ by james Talmage is one of the best books I’ve read of the life of Jesus. I’m catholic.

[Anonymous No.16515216]

>>16507639
Very nice list
>>16507598
My recommendations after reading fp's intro books would be
>St. Augustine - City of God
>St. Thomas Aquinas - Summa Concise Translation (transl. Timothy McDermott)
>Plotinus - Enneads (transl. Stephen McKenna)
>Marsilio Ficino - Platonic Theology (read Dionysius first)
All of Ficino's writings are great, especially his extensive commentaries on Plato, Plotinus and Pseudo-Dionysius where he reconciles Platonism quite thoroughly and successfully with Christianity, much like Aquinas did with Aristotle. Arthur Farndell's translations of Ficino's Platonic Dialogue commentaries are well worth - the one on the Symposium is quite famous.
>Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet - Discourse on Universal History // Politics Drawn from the words of Holy Scripture
Bossuet's work is often seen as the sequel to Augustine's City of God
>Joseph De Maistre - St. Petersburg Dialogues
[Classics of Western Spirituality Prints]
>Pseudo-Dionysius - Complete Works
>Meister Eckhart - Teacher & Preacher // Sermons
>St. Catherine of Siena - Dialogues
[Contemporary Writers]
>Michael Allen Gillespie - Theological Origins of Modernity
>Charles Taylor - Secular Age
>Ivan Ilyin - On Resistance to Evil by Force
>Alasdair MacIntyre - After Virtue // Whose Justice? Which Rationality? // Three Rival Versions of Moral Inquiry
>Evelyn Underhill - Practical Mysticism
>Cardinal Sarah - The Day is Now Far Spent

[Anonymous No.16515226]

>>16513792
these people should know true Christianity has no doctrine and should be followed through scripture

[Anonymous No.16515307]

>>16507598
fergot Donne

[Anonymous No.16515637]

>>16507639
I've not (yet) read the Bible, but many intellectual paths I've followed have lead me to Benedict XVI; would reading his Intro before the Bible be a reasonable starting point? Or would I be better off having read the Bible first?

[Anonymous No.16515815]

abandonment to divine providence
tragic sense of life
sickness unto death

[Anonymous No.16515979]

>>16515637
Definitely read The Bible first. Ratzinger is more on the philosophy of it, and a wider picture through a lense of a mortal man observing both the Holy Scripture and its impact through history.

However, the best advice for reading The Bible once you've already read it in full (or could even be during your first read) would be the daily liturgical readings. It usually takes less than five minutes a day and truly does wonders both for the mind and the soul.

God bless

[Anonymous No.16516162]

>>16510015
They’re about as Christian as Muslims. Sure, they acknowledge Christ was holy, but the idea that He was (is) God and that He literally died and was resurrected bodily makes them seethe.

[Anonymous No.16516232]

>>16515979
Thank you anon, God bless you as well

[Anonymous No.16516253]

>>16512537
>Why are Pr*testants so numerous on /lit/?
wtf no they arent. we barely get any prot thread and most crist posters are catholic posters.

[Anonymous No.16516256]

>>16516162
What? Mormons believe in the literal resurrection of Christ and they worship Christ as a God. They aren't trinitarians though. Similar in some ways to Arian Christians.

[Anonymous No.16516879]

>>16516162
This is the most false thing I’ve ever read. They believe Christ died and was resurrected and that it’s only through Christ that you can be “saved”

Stop relying on your pastor

[Anonymous No.16517013]

>>16516256
they are polytheists who believe jesus and satan are brothers

[Anonymous No.16517131]

>>16517013
That’s also what the Bible eludes too.

[Anonymous No.16517142]

>>16517131
Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.

???

[Anonymous No.16517160]

Can any Christian bros give me a run down on why god allows children to be killed by the Israelite's and himself in the OT? I'm not trying to be cheeky its actually bothering me and I'm trying to make sense of it. As far as I know we don't inherit the sins of our fathers or at least we are not to be punished for their sins, yet god says in Exodus 20 "I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, " this seems contrary to Ezekiel 20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

I want to believe god is just and wouldn't snuff out children innocent of sin even if they still have a shot at redemption with Christs death and Resurrection. But if its a matter of kill them now and redeem them later it makes me wonder why bother with allowing human life to begin with, it makes me think abortion shouldn't be seen as wrong as everyone dies any ways and redemption is granted to those who die innocently any ways.

It seems very anti life to me, like its irrelevant to live a long and fulfilled life but I don't think that's right as the bible elsewhere seems to truly encourage a good and fulfilling life here on Earth not just in the Kingdom to come. Can anyone maybe set me right on what I might be getting mixed up here?

[Anonymous No.16517217]

>>16517160
>Can any Christian bros give me a run down on why god allows children to be killed by the Israelite's and himself in the OT?
not reading the rest, sorry
you're just projecting your morals to God and appealing to emotion. theres probably a more sensible explanation, but "God does thing that hurts my feelings" isn't an argument against religion.

[Anonymous No.16517244]

>>16507598
>no mormons
the story of korihor is quite a brilliant approach to atheism tho. it's basically a fan fiction about a guy making steelman atheist argument that is so good you can't refute it, but the guy gets horrifically killed by god and trampled to death instead. it's a right christian approach imo rather than trying to argue with people about faith which is at some point a nonsensical endeavor

[Anonymous No.16517249]

>>16517217
I implore you to read the rest, I'm not trying to be an ass its an actual issue I'm trying to grapple with.

[Anonymous No.16517842]

>>16515216
>>Pseudo-Dionysius - Complete Works
>>Meister Eckhart - Teacher & Preacher // Sermons
heresies

[Anonymous No.16517857]

>>16507598
You know what does me? That so many happy clappers and assorted proddy denominations (especially outside Europe) hold their mass, or whatever they call their sing a long time, in fucking conference centres. How can you believe in god if the church you go to is housed in an industrial estate. Get some stones and art and gore and shit. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.16518031]

>>16517842
Both Pseudo-Dionysius and Eckhart are orthodox and in good standing with the Church, please use Google first Mr. convert

[Anonymous No.16518482]

>>16517857
Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

[Anonymous No.16518645]

>>16517160
they were opposing the chosenites and were evil, simple as

[Anonymous No.16518649]

>>16518031
>Mr. convert
I was born Catholic. Denys is the real deal. Pseudo-Denys and Eckhart are not formal heretics, but they are not recommended to be read by the lay people, Eckhart even rejected his works at the end of his life. Just read the doctors of the Church instead.

[Anonymous No.16519138]

>>16517142
You have a misunderstanding of what “god” is. Christ is God bit is a seperate beibg from “the father”. They are one in purpose but are not the same entity. Read the intercessory prayer in John 17.

Also in the garden God is clearly talking to somebody else:
Genesis 1:
26 And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after our likeness...

Keep reading for more examples.

Jesus was a spirit first like all of us but was one of the sons of the morning along with satan.

He gave glory to God (Elohim) and was chosen to be the savior/ creator of the world.

Satan was cast out obviously and never acquired a physical body.

They were brothers and were also our brothers. Everyone born on earth was part of the intelligences that didn’t get cast out (the 3rd part that was cast out of heaven [see revelation])

[Anonymous No.16519164]

>>16517142
So he’s saying there isn’t “other” Gods.

That being said Joseph smith taught the man god theory.

Which explains that this system is an eternal cycle and that our God was man once. Then ascended to Godhood

He taught that we will become gods one day but that We will always still only have one (The God) god above us like we will only have one father.

The paternal pattern that exists now exists in the eternities and is an everlasting cycle

John 10:33-34 33

The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Psalms 82:6

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

[Anonymous No.16519175]

>>16509328
It depends on the port in question, most are ok, but American prots are by far the most obnoxious Christians that aren’t members of pseudo-Christian cults like the JW or mormonism

[Anonymous No.16519198]

>>16507598
Bump

[Anonymous No.16519810]

Studies in the Sermon on the Mount

[Anonymous No.16520220]

anything by Alasdair MacIntyre

[Anonymous No.16520225]

>>16519175
Mormonism answers all of the questions mainstream Christianity is either unwilling to face or too scared to ask.

[Anonymous No.16520249]

>>16519175
>never met Brazilian universalists.