/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16488409]

Why didn't Rimbaud write anything past the age of 20? What gives?

[Anonymous No.16488417]

He grew up and lost the only thing he had going about him

[Anonymous No.16488457]

Poets aging like milk is a meme, there's plenty of examples.

[Anonymous No.16488558]

>>16488409
Without the nourishment to his poetry provided by Verlaine's cum he couldn't hack it.

[Anonymous No.16488574]

>>16488409
He said that he had nothing else to say.

[Anonymous No.16488591]

>>16488409
He was selling weapons and slaves in Africa. Pretty based if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.16488726]

>>16488574
What a dramatic exit at such ripe age

[Anonymous No.16488882]

>>16488457
ok? no one disagreed

[Anonymous No.16488934]

how do i read his poetry?

[Anonymous No.16488944]

>>16488409
how did he write so well at such a young age? its too mature...

[Anonymous No.16488946]

>>16488934
how do I read?

[Anonymous No.16488956]

>>16488944
He started with the Greeks and continued with the Romans in the original.

[Anonymous No.16488961]

He ran out of Baudelaire to plagiarize

[Anonymous No.16488972]

>>16488961
this lol

[Anonymous No.16489006]

>>16488956
but how does a 20 year old kid write a poetry book and find a publisher?

[Anonymous No.16489017]

>>16489006
His buttbuddy Verlaine saved them from oblivion after Rimbaud's death and shilled for him, although the French literary world ignored him until the 20th ce surrealists hyped his work.

[Anonymous No.16489022]

>>16489006
He just sent a bunch of famous poets letters out of the blue and they ignored him apart from Verlaine who told him to run away and live with him in Paris. He was 17 at the time

[Anonymous No.16489054]

>>16488409
There are various theories about this. One is that his boyfriend / psychological abuser Paul Verlaine drove him to such an extreme that he wished to give up poetry altogether. There is another theory that he simply said all he had to say, and being a man of action as much as a poet, wanted to explore the world and go on dashing adventures. Another theory is that he felt his masterwork A Season in Hell would never be published, so he figured he might as well through caution to the wind and engage in a more active lifestyle. Probably it is some combination of these.

We know that Rimbaud never stopped writing, and wrote many well crafted letters to his close associates, family, sister, etc. There is even a legend that he continued to write poetry during his gangster adventures in Africa, but that these have been lost to time.

Also, the birthday hat very cutely almost aligns with his head.

[Anonymous No.16489064]

>>16489017
So luck?

[Anonymous No.16489078]

>>16488944
180IQ prodigy

[Anonymous No.16489101]

>>16489064
It took the next generation to appreciate his work. When he was alive and in Paris, he would constantly mock the fart sniffers so he wasn't making any friends in the literary world.
Ce qu'on dit au poète à propos de fleurs shows Rimbaud's contempt for his literary contemporaries.

[Anonymous No.16489104]

>>16489054
>here is another theory that he simply said all he had to say, and being a man of action as much as a poet, wanted to explore the world and go on dashing adventures.
Some photos purportedly of him in America found somewhat recently

[Anonymous No.16489116]

>>16489101
but how did the next generation see his work? i cant imagine a kid would understand marketing and publlishing

[Anonymous No.16489123]

>>16489064
That and being a prime twink.

[Anonymous No.16489137]

>>16489104
That sounds like mythology. Ribaud did much in his short life, including joining the Dutch mercenary expeditionary forces, crossing the alps on foot, selling guns in North Africa to various warring tribes, participating in the Paris Commune uprising, and much more. But he wasn't everywhere all at once.
His death from cancer was particularly sad, and i reflective of his proto-punk live fast die young attitude.

[Anonymous No.16489149]

>>16489116
>marketing and publlishing
KEK
He wasn't looking to make money off of his poems; art was sacred to him.

[Anonymous No.16489289]

>>16489149
yet he managed to get published

[Anonymous No.16489654]

>>16488944
Not really. Life started faster, back then. Also, school didn't coddle you if you were lacking, and neither did it limit you if you were gifted. Prodiges like him are also known to push boundaries at an earlier age.

[Anonymous No.16489895]

Why do people take Rimbaud and Verlaine's relationship for something more than just an act of rebellion?

[Anonymous No.16490681]

>>16488944
Dude was writing latin poetry when he was like 13 years old, he was a prodigy.

[Anonymous No.16490693]

>>16489289
Because he was friends with Verlaine who had connections in the literary world, your question was already answered.

[Anonymous No.16490725]

>>16488409
Reminder that he’d scream “Allah karim” (“Allah is generous”) during his final days. He also carried two Qurans with him, one was annotated by his father.

[Anonymous No.16490735]

wish i could feel as deeply as he did ;_;

[Anonymous No.16490751]

>>16490681
Yeah, his teachers said that it rivalled Virgil.

[Anonymous No.16490761]

>so many people write it's because he lost his looks.
>decides to google him
>looks exactly like me but with a beard
fuck all of you

[Anonymous No.16490765]

who is the best young poet with a much too short career /lit/? Rimbaud or Lautreamont? The answer seems obvious to me...

[Anonymous No.16490808]

>>16490761
What's the name of this french poet lit/

[Anonymous No.16490816]

>>16488409
He had his say. It was an understandable move.

[Anonymous No.16491228]

>>16488409
Near the end he wanted to resume but lost a few limbs and died trying to get back home. Charles Nicholl's Somebody Else: Arthur Rimbaud in Africa is good on this, and a fine book in general.

[Anonymous No.16491263]

>>16490765
Tristan Corbière

[Anonymous No.16491434]

>>16488409
He became a successful merchant and a tutor to Haile Selaisse, the guy who'd be made a messiah by the Rastafari.

[Anonymous No.16491611]

>>16490725
Reminder that he was reconciled with the Catholic Church and received the sacraments on his deathbed.

[Anonymous No.16492287]

>>16491434
Bullshit 1
>>16491611
Bullshit 2

[Anonymous No.16492349]

He was faking it all along.

[Anonymous No.16492383]

>>16489064
if you consider spreading ass for a more prominent writer as "luck" then yes

[Anonymous No.16492434]

>>16492383
you're underage if you think Verlaine was the top, by virtue of him being older. They weren't the fucking greeks. He was vers bottom best case scenario.

[Anonymous No.16492980]

>>16492434
that's a lot of gay talk, you like girls right anon?

[Anonymous No.16493662]

>>16488961
Baudelaire didn't have much going on for himself either. He was deep in debt in every direction, not really getting the attention he craved for, mostly known for bumming cigarettes and places to sleep.

[french /lit/ No.16494471]

>>16492980
Girls are inferior to men, both mentally and physically

[Anonymous No.16494543]

>>16492287
>Bullshit 2

Nope. Not bullshit.

Here's the first source that came to hand after a quick google:
A. J. LEVENTHAL, "ARTHUR RIMBAUD," in Hermathena, Vol. 27, No. 52 (November, 1938), pp. 47-55.

Pic related = p. 49

Stable URL: https://www.jstor.org/stable/23037361

[Anonymous No.16495064]

>>16494543
>His voracious intellectual interest in the subject is attested by contemporary witnesses. The Italian explorer Ugo Ferrandi, who spent time with him in Tadjourah in 1886, says:
>He was an Arabist of the first order, and at his house there he would have learned discussions about the Koran with the local elders ... The natives considered him to be something of a Muslim. He advised me to imitate this course, seeing that I had some knowledge of Islamic customs.
>Another acquaintance, Armand Savouré, writes: 'He was one of the best Arabists that ever lived, and around 1886, went off preaching the Koran as a way of penetrating those regions of Africa that were still unknown.' This probably gets it about right -- a genuine fascination with the intellectual rigours of Islam mingled with a more expedient idea of its usefulness to him as a trader and traveller. ...
>The seal he had made for himself -- exactly when is not known -- styled him 'Abdoh Rinbo': Rimbaud the Servant of Allah. If so, it was very much on his own terms.
Somebody Else: Arthur Rimbaud in Africa 1880-1891, Charles Nicholl, 1997, pp 148-149
As to interpretation of intention given what's known Rimbaud did immerse himself in the culture of Islam far more deeply as an adult than he ever did in his native Catholicism when a child, and one can't help but feel that it was far more important to him, far more vital and even enlightening to his cast of mind than either what he had experienced in Europe, or how Western scholarship interprets his final years today. In other words the utilitarian interpretations of European scholarship seem hollow when compared to the way this man actually spent the adult portion of his life. This question is *really* very much up in the air.
t. Christian white boy

[Anonymous No.16495095]

>>16488956
>When Arthur was nine, he wrote a 700-word essay objecting to his having to learn Latin in school. Vigorously condemning a classical education as a mere gateway to a salaried position

[Anonymous No.16495107]

>At the Collège he became a highly successful student, heading his class in all subjects except mathematics and the sciences
Kek what a brainlet

[Anonymous No.16495118]

>>16490765
Lermontov

[Anonymous No.16495985]

>>16495118
Few here know what a fantastic poet he was. Anglo knowledge of him pretty much consists of the Nabokov translation of Hero and that's it.

[Anonymous No.16495999]

>>16490735
Wish I could feel him as deeply as Verlaine did

[Anonymous No.16496055]

>>16495985
he is my favorite poet alongside Pushkin, Demon should be a world-famous poem, and all his short stuff is great.

[Anonymous No.16496428]

>>16488409
You guys even read A Season in Hell? He lays it out for you more or less and in prose too. I wonder about /lit/ sometimes

[Anonymous No.16496435]

>>16496428
>/lit/
>reading /lit/
>let alone in the original

[Anonymous No.16497113]

>>16490765
Keats

[Anonymous No.16497625]

>>16488409
Rembow was too based for France. In a letter to his mother:

“Aden is the most boring place in the world, after, however, the one where you live.”

It’s also worth noting that rembow’s writing process was probably taking a pretty serious mental toll on the lad

[Anonymous No.16497930]

Rimbaud was raped.

Le coeur volé

Mon triste coeur bave à la poupe,
Mon coeur couvert de caporal :
Ils y lancent des jets de soupe,
Mon triste coeur bave à la poupe :
Sous les quolibets de la troupe
Qui pousse un rire général,
Mon triste coeur bave à la poupe,
Mon coeur couvert de caporal !

Ithyphalliques et pioupiesques
Leurs quolibets l'ont dépravé !
Au gouvernail on voit des fresques
Ithyphalliques et pioupiesques.
Ô flots abracadabrantesques,
Prenez mon coeur, qu'il soit lavé !
Ithyphalliques et pioupiesques
Leurs quolibets l'ont dépravé !

Quand ils auront tari leurs chiques,
Comment agir, ô coeur volé ?
Ce seront des hoquets bachiques
Quand ils auront tari leurs chiques :
J'aurai des sursauts stomachiques,
Moi, si mon coeur est ravalé :
Quand ils auront tari leurs chiques
Comment agir, ô coeur volé ?

[Anonymous No.16498000]

>>16489064>>16489017
>>16489006

as much as having a pussy is luck

[Anonymous No.16498015]

>>16495107
non-stem intellectuals are awful people, no wonder he was a homo

[Anonymous No.16498048]

>>16497625
>Rembow
His name is pronounced Rambo, and yes the character Rambo's name is an allusion to Rimbaud.

[Anonymous No.16498159]

>>16489654
Maybe slightly but Rimbaud was an outstandingly fast kid : I mean, he notoriously kept fleeing from his home from a very young age. Kid fled to Paris when he was 16 and was arrested. He definitely had a unique precocious rebellious attitude that gave him the urge to create early on.

[Anonymous No.16498180]

>>16495985
In France I'm pretty sure he's the most studied poet. I studied him in sixth grade, ninth grade and eleventh grade. I know my sister had to learn "Le dormeur du Val" by heart two different times during her middle school and high school years.

[Anonymous No.16498626]

>>16498180
I'd say it's La Fontaine, Baudelaire and Rimbaud are close seconds

[Anonymous No.16499178]

>>16498180
>>16498626
Did you learn about Proust at school?