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[Anonymous No.16477586]

Restore paganism

[Anonymous No.16477593]

Done

[Anonymous No.16477594]

>>16477586
No.

[Anonymous No.16477597]

>>16477593
based

[Anonymous No.16477622]

>>16477593
This

[Anonymous No.16478819]

>>16477593
Catholics BTFO! How will they eve recover?

[Anonymous No.16478840]

>>16477593
unironically what will be once
>Vatican 3: The Sanctification of Plato
hits

[Anonymous No.16478851]

>>16477586
Why?

[Anonymous No.16478859]

>>16477593
Not only did Catholicism destroy paganism but it also retained certain aspects of paganism but inferior in every way.

Catholicism? Not even once.

[Anonymous No.16479537]

Doctrine of the creatio ex nihilo is the worst of the jewish tricks imposed on the western mind

[Anonymous No.16479543]

>>16477593
Holy BASED.

[Anonymous No.16479554]

>>16478859
then it was never destroyed, it was only changed.

[Anonymous No.16479577]

>>16478859
Correct. It's hard to believe we gave up the celebration of life for the worship of a sad dead gay guy.

[Anonymous No.16479586]

>>16479554
Worst take.

[Anonymous No.16479588]

Legitimate question: how? we know next to nothing about how paganism operated.

[Anonymous No.16479592]

>>16478859
>>16479577
>pagans think Christianity is anti-life and just some silly little thing that somehow took over the world
OHNONONONONOOOOO
You guys literally have no respect for any of your culture or the great men of the world who deeply understood Christianity, you think they saw make-believe in their worship of Christianity?

[Anonymous No.16479616]

>>16479588
we know decently how it operates. we have enough writen from greco-rome. its just that noone believes in a water domain god or a victory domain god anymore. At best an athiestic jungian representation rather than true belief could be.but its hard to believe in zues, or Loki once a universalizing religion like sol invictus, christianity, or neo-platonism is accepted. you cannot return, you can only proceed in a new avenueZ

[Anonymous No.16479631]

>>16479616
It's literally impossible to practice pre-Christian European paganism anon. You can recreate it in yourself, but it's not the same thing-- you can admire that same thing, but it will never be intimate enough to be the same thing.

[Anonymous No.16479638]

>>16479592
>totally missed the point
Fuck off, go suck some dead guy's dick more. Saul of Tarsus was an evil man.

[Anonymous No.16479647]

>>16479631
...thats kinda what I said. you can apreciate it, but you cannot go back to it.

[Anonymous No.16479653]

>>16479638
No retard, you just think Bach somehow wrote music about paganism and totally only saw paganism in Christianity. All of you people deny your own culture and have no appreciation or the most basic understanding of Christianity. Neo-paganism is retarded and closer to Christianity than paganism.

[Anonymous No.16479661]

>>16479592
200th Chapter.
Secret of development but glittering of forms,
wonderful god of many developments.
All gods boast in him,
5 in order to magnify themselves in his perfection, like his divinity.
The Sun himself is joined with his person.
He is the Great One in Heliopolis,
who is also called Ta-tenen.
Amun, who emerged from the Waters that he might lead mankind.
10 Another of his developments is the Hermopolitans.
Original one who begot the original ones and caused the Sun to be born,
completing himself in Atum, one body with him.
He is the Lord to the Limit, who began existence.
It is his ba, they say, that is the one who is in the sky.
15 He is the one who is in the Duat, foremost of the east.
His ba is in the sky, his body in the west,
and his cult-image in Southern Heliopolis, elevating his appearances.
Amun is one, concealing himself from them.
He is hidden from the gods, and his aspect is unknown.
20 He is farther than the sky, he is deeper than the Duat.
No god knows his true appearance ,
no processional image of his is unfolded through inscriptions,
no one testifies to him accurately.
He is too secret to uncover his awesomeness,
25 he is too great to investigate, too powerful to know.
Jnstantaneously falling face to face into death
is for the one who expresses his secret identity, unknowingly or knowingly.
There is no god who knows how to invoke him with it.
Manifest one whose identity is hidden, inasmuch as it is inaccessible.

[Anonymous No.16479664]

>>16479647
We can learn from it though. The essence of it can be re-established, but going back is never an option.

[Anonymous No.16479668]

>>16479661
What's your point?

[Anonymous No.16479674]

>>16479653
You don't know what I believe, retard. Keep on arguing with strawmen though. Why are christcucks like this?

[Anonymous No.16479680]

>>16479661
>>16477586
Through the heart and through the tongue something developed into Atum's
image.
And great and important is Ptah,
who gave life to all the gods and their kas as well
through this heart and this tongue
5 through which Horus and Thoth both became Ptah.
It has developed that the heart and tongue have control of all limbs,
showing that he is preeminent in every body and in every mouth of all the gods, and all people, all animals, and all crawling things that liveplanning and governing everything he wishes.
10 His Ennead is before him, in teeth and lips that seed and those hands of Atum:
for it is through his seed and his fingers that Atum's Ennead developed,
but the Ennead is teeth and lips in this mouth
that pronounced the identity of everything,
15 and from which Shu and Tefnut emerged
and gave birth to the Ennead.
The eyes' seeing, the ears' hearing, the nose's breathing of air send up to the
heart,
and it is what causes every conclusion to emerge;
it is the tongue that repeats what the heart plans.
20 So were all the gods born,
Atum and his Ennead as well,
for it is through what the heart plans and the tongue commands that every
divine speech has developed.
So were the male life-principles made
and the female life-principles set in place25 they who make all sustenance and every offeringthrough that word that makes what is loved and what is hated.
So has life been given to him who has calm
and death given to him who has wrongdoing.
So was made all construction and all craft,
30 the hands' doing, the feet's going, and every limb's movement,
according as he governs that which the heart thinks,
which emerges through the tongue,
and which facilitates everything.
It has developed that Ptah is called "He who made all and caused the gods to
develop,"
35 since he is Ta-tenen, who gave birth to the gods,
from whom everything has emerged food-offerings and sustenance, gods' offerings, and every perfect thing.
So is it found and recognized that his physical strength is greater than the gods'.
So has Ptah come to rest after his making everything and every divine speech as
well,
40 having given birth to the gods,
having made their villages,
having founded their nomes,
having set the gods in their cult-places,
having made sure their bread-offerings,
45 having founded their shrines,
having made their bodies resemble what contents them.
So have the gods entered their bodies of every kind of wood, every kind of mineral, every kind of frit,
everything that grows all over him, in which they have developed.
50 So were gathered to him all the gods and their kas as well,
content and combined in the lord of the Two Lands.

[Anonymous No.16479684]

>>16479653
have to agree. i can understand having q kindred with older relion. but if you truly love the tradition you should not create a cut off point. you could at least be like the early modern eccentrisrs and weave and embrase both pagan and christian aspects of your culture and find worth in it all.

[Anonymous No.16479693]

Paganism has continued through out western history if you know where to look

[Anonymous No.16479713]

>>16479674
>reducing Christianity to nothing other than "giving up the glorification of nature for a dead guy" isn't a strawman
Okay retard. You limit yourself and show your own stupidity because you cannot understand the most sublime and lucid of all religions, which your ancestors did in their every waking moment.

[Anonymous No.16479719]

>>16479616
You're mistaken on universalism, that isn't a important quality, never has been, it's all about monotheism, every polytheist religion that has come into contact with it has had to adapt to it.

[Anonymous No.16479740]

>>16479684
Yes I agree as well, but overall most of these people just have a retarded definition and understanding of paganism and Christianity. What they see as "pagan" is actually just another word for religious symbolism or archetypal content.

[Anonymous No.16479760]

>>16479719
eh, idk. i think universalism is more proper a term since it also includes things like pantheism which have servived and come out of monism in some instances (indic, some european)

[Anonymous No.16479768]

>>16479713
>reducing Christianity to nothing other than "giving up the glorification of nature for a dead guy" isn't a strawman
It's not, that's what christianity literally is - especially in relation to this thread, which is about the continuation from paganism to christianity. Christianity is the invention of Saul of Tarsus. I'm, sure your holy dead man was an upstanding guy but that doesn't change much.
> the most sublime and lucid of all religion
It's clearly not. All abrahamic religions are spiritually like the desert, but at least judaism and islam have some grain of metaphysical grounding.
>which your ancestors did in their every waking moment.
Because they were deceived and didn't know better.

[Anonymous No.16480026]

>>16479543
>blue yeti
Catholics are plebs

[Anonymous No.16480203]

>>16479768
idk i think thats kinda just crafting a definition on your part.

[Anonymous No.16480300]

>>16477586
Paganism is absolutely worthless.

[Anonymous No.16480308]

>>16479537
Cope /pol/tard