F.W.J. Schelling

[Anonymous No.16473713]

What are the essentials of his that someone should read?
I've finally fucking read Kant, and I've got a copy of On the Essence of Human Freedom.
What else do I need?

[Anonymous No.16473797]

>>16473713
Heidegger's essays on Schelling are kino.

>"God lets the oppositional will of the ground operate in order that might be which love unifies and subordinates itself to for the glorification of the Absolute. The will of love stands about the will of the ground and this predominance, this eternal decidedness, the love for itself as the essence of being in general, this decidedness is the innermost core of absolute freedom."

[Anonymous No.16473798]

>>16473713
Read Clara. It's the best intro.

[Anonymous No.16473881]

>>16473797
Feels like I'm reading Plotinus, this is incredible
>>16473798
thanks anon ill go get a copy

[Anonymous No.16473893]

>>16473713
Brush up on Fichte, specifically:
>Wissenschaftelehre

Starting with Schelling in chronological order of his publications won’t hurt.

>Oldest System of German Idealism
Scholars debate whether this is a work of Schelling, Hegel, or Holderlin, but it reads to me like Schelling and is a good glimpse.

>Schelling’s Naturphilosophie
The beginning of his serious work as a philosopher and includes all kinds of wacky and interesting observations and theories about Nature, takes some influence from Spinoza, so having read some Spinoza or having some historical context for the Spinozist Controversy in Germany won’t hurt you.

Schelling’s System of Transcendental Idealism
A must read. Schelling is re-working Fitche’s Absolute-I and some Spinozist-influenced ideas about Nature to solve the issues present in Kantian Transcendental Philosophy

>Andrew Bowie’s Schelling and Modern European Philosophy
gives a good overview of his career and links his thought to later philosophical developments (which are often rarely credited as inspired by Schelling)

>Andrew Bowie’s essay on Schelling in Aesthetics and Subjectivity
Great overview and companion to the ideas in STI

>Terry Pinkard’s German Idealism history book
good background

Bessier’s German Idealism history book
good background with more interpretation than Pinkard

Schelling’s career is usually broken into three parts, so it really depends on what you are looking for (and his career could be further divided up because he often changes his mind from work to work)

[Anonymous No.16473909]

>>16473881
>Feels like I'm reading Plotinus, this is incredible
Yeah it's pretty good, but I'd definitely say Heidegger fixes any of the problems of the neoplatonists.

[Anonymous No.16473960]

>>16473713
/lit/ needs more Schelling posting
>On the Essence of Human Freedom
That’s a bit late in his career to start. Try this, fellow Schelling anon
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/schelling/

[Anonymous No.16474173]

Bump

[Anonymous No.16474478]

>>16473713
Schelling thread dying, but BAP thread going strong... fuck you /lit/

[Anonymous No.16474484]

Does anyone knows if "philosophyes of nature after schelling", from iain hamilton grant, is good?

>>16473893
thanks

>>16473797
Heidegger sucks.

[Anonymous No.16474486]

>>16474484
>Heidegger sucks.
You suck.

[Anonymous No.16474544]

>>16473909
What problems would that be and how? Neoplatonists were deeply religious. From what I've gathered Hegels writing was the opposite.

[Anonymous No.16474619]

>>16473797
>>"God lets the oppositional will of the ground operate in order that might be which love unifies and subordinates itself to for the glorification of the Absolute. The will of love stands about the will of the ground and this predominance, this eternal decidedness, the love for itself as the essence of being in general, this decidedness is the innermost core
Gobbledegook. I bet you can't explain this.

[Anonymous No.16474765]

>>16474484
Heidegger is literally the best reader of Schelling there ever was

[Anonymous No.16474771]

>>16474619
What doesn't make sense to you anon? Just think about it and it does make sense.

[Anonymous No.16474797]

>>16474771
>oppositional will of the ground
First of all ground doesn't have will, it is dirt.

[SchellingAnon No.16475108]

Resurrect all Schelling thread

[Anonymous No.16475116]

>>16474797
>First of all ground doesn't have will, it is dirt.
Is this a joke? Did you think Heidegger was talking about dirt lmao???

[Anonymous No.16475127]

How do I start with Schelling? I've read Kant's first critique, Spinoza's Ethics, and Hegel's Phenomenology

[Anonymous No.16475145]

>>16473797
As someone more favorable to the logical analysis of the analytic fags, I'm thinking that this kind of philosophy in the quote has more of an aesthetic value rather than being a scientific inquiry. Would I be right to think this?

[Anonymous No.16475171]

>>16475116
See? Stop pretending you get it.

[Anonymous No.16475223]

>>16475171
Ground = the World, Existence, Being, yada yada.

You must understand these things intuitively, he's saying that the freedom of the world, essentially as he is talking about it, from God, is necessary for the greatness of being to be known which can be understood most clearly in the manifestations of beauty for most. It's nothing to do with physics anon. Innermost intimate, and sacred moments, which make life worth living-- in that supreme comprehension. These conceptions, as Bowden said, stand as averse to the modern existentialist worldview as possible, and the nihilist philosophies of a Sartre are taught laughably a-prior in universities so as to remove as soon, as hopefully as possible these naturalistic, prior and what would be considered totalitarian, conceptions and structures of the world from the peripheral of the students philosophy. It is, might as well be, the vampiric intentual corruption of the youth, as it stands as an intentual removal of unlikeable concepts to them, their perverted natures.

Take that in writing this, and my remembering of these concepts I had a sudden transcendent vision as it were, the room began spinning and I remembered my mission. And it gives one the drink on the lips to persevere and know(recognise) what one is walking forward, away from other things, for. Good luck with it anon.

>>16475145
It's impressing to the furthest extents of mans symbolical understanding, and one can begin to understand why Heidegger began to focus on a sameness of understanding between poetry and philosophy, in fact resorting to poetry and art in general, in his later philosophy.

[Anonymous No.16475238]

>>16475223
It might be a wild guess, but is this Wagner anon? If so, I'm still waiting for your explanation of that painting anon.

[Anonymous No.16475265]

>>16475223
>>16475223
God, it is so fun to larp as a mystic, I know. You have to realise, though, that you are an absolute pseud. Get it together. Thought requires precision.

[Anonymous No.16475266]

>>16475238
Your guess proved true, yes, but you've caught me at the cusp of an eccentric rambling which at the end of a vision makes sense, but to normal anons I speak with it is quite embarrassing. And I am also trying to cradle that spirit of perception, in the Jungian self-delving subjectivity.

Nevertheless, if I remember correctly from that anon, the painting was.. ah damn I think I've forgotten, what I can partially remember was the thief having the ball around him to represent his sin or something like that. I think I'll have to look at it again, what's the name anon?

Also how's the morality thing been?

[Anonymous No.16475272]

>>16475265
Yeah yeah pal, nevertheless there was a portion of what I said that was genuinely just Schelling and Heidegger. Functionally, all of it was.

[Anonymous No.16475314]

>>16475238
I saw the same painting just posted, and gathered it to be you. Apparently it was not, but here were my responses anyhow:

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[Anonymous No.16475348]

>>16475266
>>16475314
Hahaha yes I noticed I popped in an inopportune moment, although I must admit there is something funny when a vision is revealed so unveiledly. That thread wasn't mine, though it's an interesting coincidence. I've had a lot of thoughts built up regarding the painting, some of which with accordance to the anon's explanation. I have to go to sleep now, but it was good to talk to you again anon.

[Anonymous No.16475584]

>>16475127
read Clara

[Anonymous No.16476284]

B

[Anonymous No.16476633]

>>16475127
His Naturphilosophie

[Anonymous No.16477300]

>>16475584
Stfu Claraanon