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>28 years old and never had a gf

Any books to help accept loneliness? It's not too bad now when I'm still relatively young but scared what's it like to get old alone

>> No.16470651
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16470651

As an incel, you have two options:
Suicide
Or getting a cute twink bf

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>>16470639
Books to help me cope with balding due to chronic stress before 25?

>> No.16470701

>>16470639
then use tinder or something retard

>> No.16470714

>>16470639
the world is going to end soon anyway so don't worry about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=B_zfMyzXqfI&feature=emb_logo

>> No.16470736

>>16470661
Minoxidil/finasteride
Read side effects

>> No.16470828
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>>16470701
Tinder is only for chads

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>>16470639
I suppose you could just consider the increasingly common flip side: a loveless marriage. Benatar or Ligotti might help if you want to roll around in your feels.
>>16470701
Tinder is a degrading meat market. I began two relationships on Tinder and both ended in hellfire. Is it not well known at this point that women only use tinder to boost their egos? Don't waste your time and energy on tinderellas.

>> No.16471267

>>16470639
>Any books to help accept loneliness?
Talk to a therapist. There are ways to meet people and form relationships that might work for your personality and lifestyle.

You have love to give.

>> No.16471367

>>16470639
maybe redundant since you're here but books and music are the only things that make it better. im fortunate enough to have friends i see on a regular basis but they don't really take away the pain, they're just a drug.
also im still in uni but i imagine if i didnt have to adhd myself staring at a computer all day i would probably write consistently. the few times i write or play my guitar it helps too

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>> No.16471389

>>16470828
There's a huge gender disparity in the number of registered users. That chart can't disambiguate between an actual population level psychological effect and the effect of supply and demand on the platform. There's like 4 men for every 1 women on tinder

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>> No.16471405
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Read this to understand how women actually feel.

>> No.16471417

Sorry, if having a gf was actually a priority you'd have put in the time to become attractive (educated, fit, financially secure, etc) and have one by now. Plenty of poorfags, uglyfags, autists, and degenerates have gfs, you have no excuse.

>> No.16471428

>>16471387
Is this real?

>> No.16471525

>>16471428
No, the upper image shows a meeting of the Royal Canadian Archeology Society and the lower image shows the 16th annual symposium of the Portland Table Polo Club.

>> No.16471540

>>16471405
men view women the same way

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>>16471525
>upper image shows a meeting of the Royal Canadian Archeology Society
Take it back.

>> No.16471570

>>16471550
Are you an archeologist from Canada? Maybe the invitation got lost in your spam folder.

>> No.16471582

>>16471405
>>16471540
This seems mostly true, although only in the context of sex and initial attraction. I think everyone feels this is true to some extent, but I can't help shake the feeling the person who wrote this has never been in love or a relationship where she thought of anything other than herself. One gets the feeling like she is projecting a lot of self-hate onto the rest of the world.
People wish to be viewed as sexual objects, but it is foolish to think that is the only thing they want to be viewed as.

>> No.16471605

>>16471405
TLDR

>> No.16471612

>>16470639
Time to go get a gf, Anon.

>> No.16471617

>>16471582
oh yeah this was obviously an extreme, but i guarantee you can find a guy who's the same. unfortunately we live in a very shallow society. the whole incel - anti incel thing just seems to be <25 y/o guys who cant get laid b/c no money or fizeek yet and >30 y/o women who cant get the guys they want to stick around. both should just focus on improving themselves, being content with their circumstances, and lowering their standards

>> No.16471638

>>16471617
Agreed.

>> No.16471668

>>16471617
Good take.

>> No.16471690

>>16471405
Reading this and similar black pill crap, I just get the feeling that someone wants to be cruel to me.

>> No.16471705

>>16471690
it's designed to make you feel shitty anon. don't read it

>> No.16471716

>>16471690
Women hate sub8 men

>> No.16471748

>>16470639
>I'm still relatively young but scared what's it like to get old alone
It's actually much easier being older if you are male. The late 20s are the hardest part of inceldom.
First of all sexual impulses diminish gradually over time, so the cooming aspect will be easier and easier to handle. In spite of whatever you tell yourself about how it's not about sex, the loneliness feeling becomes less sharp when not horny. Compare your desire for a girlfriend five minutes before and five minutes after fapping.
Second, it becomes much easier socially to be a single man past a certain point. Unless you look like a full blown degenerate, you will appear as just a bachelor instead of the loser virgin of the campus (a social category which disappears from people's minds somewhere in their 30s). The majority of men aren't very happy in their marriages and many will envy you (even if their vision of bachelorhood is biased too). Your family will stop asking questions, not out of desperation as I've read, but as a perfectly accepted state of affairs without defeatism.
If you are continuously employed above minimum wage and not overweight, you will likely become a target of some desperate post wall females. It's not a magic formula going from one extreme to the other, but the ultra biased sexual market you've internalized as normal in your teens/20s, and described in meme format like >>16471405, becomes a thing of the past.

>> No.16471757

>>16471716
this is true. it isn't simply indifference, but outright detestation, pure hatred. if you are below 6'0, or balding, or have a weak chin, and so forth, you are no more than a contemptible ghoul to women.

>> No.16471814

>>16471757
narrow shoulder is a death sentence too.

>> No.16471818
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>>16471748
It should be some consolation to our incel friends that being an aging single man is (and has historically been) acceptable. This isn't the case for women in similar situations, regardless of whether or not they were slaying it back in the day. They will be tormented daily by pestering questions and constant reminders of what might have been. We've seen this time and time again.
>Why didn't you ever have kids?
>Do you regret it?
It will be profoundly depressing for aging childless women to see their friends and family members have children who will, in turn, grow up and give them grandchildren. This isn't some incel cope. It's a well known fact that most women don't do too well if they're single and childless post mid-thirties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anECwFYnyh0

>> No.16471891

>>16471818
>30s
what the fuck

>> No.16471923

>>16471891
Porn, makeup, Hollywood, and social media has ruined a generation. That sorry lady thought she'd be a cute bubbly bouncy 18 year old forever.

>> No.16471964

>>16470639
>28 years old and never had a gf

Same here.

>> No.16472000

>>16470639
same but i'm 24.

>> No.16472018

>>16470639
most guys don't. the vocal minority who do make it seem like most guys do and that you are missing out on the party everyone's invited to. women find the vast majority of men unattractive.

>> No.16472023

>>16471923
You forgot feminism.

Why the hell did women ever think it was a great idea to go slave it out with the men under fluorescent lighting in cubicles for 40 years?

>> No.16472027
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Take the elephantpill.

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>>16471818
Geez, she looks busted.

>> No.16472035
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>>16472035

>> No.16472067

>>16472035
At least he'll lose his virginity in jail.

>> No.16472068

>>16472027
elephants are so based holy shit

>> No.16472069

>>16472035
the absolute fucking state of b*ng women

>> No.16472084

>>16472035
Looks like Paul Dano

>> No.16472091

>>16472035
>>16472084
classic

>> No.16472261

>>16472023
Grass is greener I suppose. I don't know where I saw it, but someone made the point that femininity has been subservient to masculinity for time immemorial so maybe it makes sense that some women (m'uh strong feemyle role model) want to disavow traditional feminine roles and co-opt masculinity.

>> No.16472274

>>16472023
Arbeit mach Frei.

>> No.16472294

>>16472035
this can't be real wtf?

>> No.16472411
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Being alpha is mindset. Just become one.

>> No.16472458

>>16472411
Jeff Bezos got denied pussy by an aging Karen, feel for a 6/10 woman five social strata below him because she pretended to like him, got cucked, divorced for several dozens of billions of dollars. All the while becoming the richest man in the world.
If Bezos didn't make it by achievement or "mindset", nobody will.

>> No.16472641

>>16472261
Women giving up having children and a family so they can work pointless $50,000 a year jobs making powerpoint presentations—it'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

>> No.16472654

>>16472641
>Women giving up having children and a family so they can work pointless $50,000 a year jobs making powerpoint presentations
kek

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>>16472641
lel the best part is that most of the jobs are complete make-work drivel
>I'm an assistant corporate-community-culture-diversity coordinator.
>No way! I arrange flowers for secretary offices.
>I-I make powerpoints for Goy-Corp...

>> No.16472882

>>16471387
the incels look like a comfy bunch of frens

>> No.16472927

>>16472711
Back when I used to still go into the office (before covid), I sat next to the human resources division at my work and had to listen to the retarded HR woman talk all the time. It was pretty grueling. I take some solace in knowing that since most of them were fat that maybe corona-chan will get them.

>> No.16473031

>>16470661
Why so much stress anon?

>> No.16473055

>tfw 30khv
>tfw women have it so easy and live such a fantasy life they assume men have it exactly the same
>tfw they hate inexperience

Do womens standards always spike high during an economic crisis? Is there historical examples as well? It's ridiculous what they expect. I get abused in childhood (not sexually) so I get stunted and have to fix myslef so now i'm toxic for life?

>> No.16473070

>>16470639
Not one person here has suggested Catholic monasticism. (1 Corinthians 7:38)

Fuck me this board sucks.

>> No.16473076

I will cut down the filthy degenerate traitors that infest my great country. I will slide a cold blade into the torso and then proceed to slice them like a shitty ALDI own-brand chicken. They will scream like a pig as I peel off their disgusting eyelids and put the flesh into my mouth. They will gaze upon my cannibalistic feast with eyes unable to shut as I devour them while the vigour of life gushes from the cavernous wounds. Once I have crushed every last drop of sensible torture they will finally die. I will then rip off their jaws and devour their tongues.

The heads I will keep as a trophy - as was traditional for my people in the distant past.

>> No.16473246

>>16472091
Lmao

>> No.16473265

>>16470639
Transition if you have the bone structure for it

>> No.16473312

Unironically, you haven't found an activity that's engaging enough yet. Something that really puts you in a flow state.

You'll know it's really working once you wake up in the morning and that pit in your stomach is less painful and heavy

>> No.16473320

>>16470661
Try lavender oil, castor, oil, or rogaine for the hair. Also, smoke some pot you fucking weirdo. Unless you grew up in a warzone or something you probably don't have anything to be stressed about.

>> No.16473340

>>16472035
No homo this guy isn't even ugly.

>> No.16473343

>>16470661
>chronic stress
genes*

>> No.16473379

>>16471267
Nice post anon.

>> No.16473404

>>16473312
I found two, watching anime and jerking off.

>> No.16473412

>>16473070
Go back to twitter.

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>>16471748
>if you're lucky you'll stop caring and perhaps settle for some random desperate woman with much more life experience than you who you don't really find attractive and who doesn't really like you either.
Kinda bleak

>> No.16473475

>>16473076
Based

>> No.16473599

>>16473312
My engaging activity is writing shitting philosophical tracts that read like a Chinese knock-off of Kierkegaard

>> No.16473865
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>cute cashier girl at pastry shop smiles at me while I'm waiting in the queue
>makes really enthusiastic small talk when I'm at the register
>this never happens in the UK, usually cashiers are either miserable or just blandly polite
>spill my spaghetti, naturally
>still feel buoyed by this girl's potential interest
>go to shop again another day
>different cashier girl
>exact same thing happens
>holy shit I must be a secret chad
>go again
>it's a dude on the till
>the exact same smile at the queue and enthusiastic small talk
>same every time I go in, no matter who the cashier is
>realize it's company policy to flirt with the customers
>niggers duped me into buying 10 brownies
Things are getting bad.

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>>16473865
that's fucked up

>> No.16474308

>>16470639
I'm a 24 yo virgin and I can feel myself starting to fall apart. Can't picture myself getting to 28. Well done for making it that far.

>> No.16474646

You can kind of ignore it if you throw yourself into work, preferably somewhere with long hours. I'm in the military and usually I'm so busy I don't have time to feel bad about myself. If you get a good routine going in your downtime you can out it out of your mind almost completely, and only think about your interests and hobbies.
Sometimes that feel will creep up again, though. I'm in my 20s and right now it's not that bad, but I expect it to get much worse as I get older and the prospect of finding someone gets dimmer.
If you get really lucky you'll forget about it at some point, take it for given that you're alone and will remain so, and if not find comfort, at least stop yearning for something you won't have. Millions of men past have lived this way, many quite content with their lives, and maybe joining their number isn't the worst way your life could have gone.
I hope the next life is better.

>> No.16474653

>>16470639
just jerk off. it helps, if only a little bit.

>> No.16474711

>>16470639
take up buddhism (theravada)

>> No.16474727
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i wish i were dead

>> No.16475351

>never had a gf
same, but I am 22, but I haven't even talked to a female that wasn't family since I was 13

>> No.16475381

>>16471748
>If you are continuously employed above minimum wage and not overweight, you will likely become a target of some desperate post wall females. It's not a magic formula going from one extreme to the other, but the ultra biased sexual market you've internalized as normal in your teens/20s, and described in meme format like >>16471405, becomes a thing of the past.

Thanks anon, that made me feel good for some reason

>> No.16475561

I'm kinda in the same boat, I live in a country where I am a fucking minority and I've literally no idea where to find and meet people. It doesn't help that my hobby is reading and I spend most of my time alone in my room for the most part

>> No.16475589

>>16470639
>Anicius Boethius - On the Consolation of Philosophy

>> No.16475617
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>>16475561
majority minority doesn't matter, loners, especially those who read books, are doomed to to spend their time alone in their rooms, no matter how much they might want to do otherwise.The closest thing to happiness people like us might get is by going out into the nature.

>> No.16475624

>>16470639
My friend. Do not let the lacking of a woman be the reason you hve to give up on yourself. Nobody is worth you hurting yourself or losing self value. I'm sure you have some skills and some way of getting some positive outcomes on life.

>> No.16476024

>>16475624
>I'm sure you have some skills and some way of getting some positive outcomes on life.
Wrong

>> No.16476082

>>16476024
why not?

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>>16470639
>same boat but 23

Try Schopenhauer maybe, Spengler with his brave pessimism. this website is the only home and frens I’ve ever had. Only thing that’s kept me from necking it

>> No.16476235

>>16476082
Because I have no skills.

>> No.16476616

>>16475351
How can you win a game you never play? That's basically inceltears. Sure you will not win the prize you want, and you will fail a lot, but you will win some.
Only people with great talent can thrive professionally. Only the chads have many, and pretty women. So is life.

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>>16475617
>The closest thing to happiness people like us might get is by going out into the nature.

This. I'm also considering getting a dog.

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>>16476616
>you will win some

>> No.16476805

>>16471690
>Reading this and similar
It's written by a dude. The only intention is to stoke and justify misogyny.

Women are individuals. They all want different things and the things they want now won't be the same next week or next month.

Sexual attraction will be a part of any relationship. Feeling shame for being in a relationship with an average-looking woman is a byproduct of the patriarchy as is believing that only some men are capable of satisfying women.

Unpack this shit and take a look at it. Relationships aren't rare. Most people are in a relationship. Believing it's impossible for you is something your mind invented.

Talk to a therapist. This isn't healthy and you don't have to live this way.

>> No.16476820

>>16474308
>Can't picture myself getting to 28
That will come sooner that you expect.
t. 28 kv

>> No.16476838

>>16471757
>if you are below 6'0, or balding, or have a weak chin, and so forth, you are no more than a contemptible ghoul to women.
I fit all three of these. (My chin is especially weak).

I've also been in monogamous relationships for most of my life. It's not that hard. You've internalized a lot of misogyny and it's poisoning you.

You don't have to live like this. Open yourself up to empathy and love. Question your belief system.

>> No.16476843

>>16476838
Post chin

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>>16476805
>byproduct of the patriarchy

>> No.16476852

>>16470651
Being gay or bi doesn't increase your chances at all unless you're already a normalfag

>> No.16476886

>>16474308
I said the same shit, i'm 30 khv now. Don't underestimate how much women detest inexperience.

>> No.16476891

>>16470639
Read Jung. Here's my blog post
>be me, kv
>find a rabbit's foot just sitting in front of my apartment
>bring it home
>next day at a party with friends
>cutest girl there is all over me
>tells one of her friends she wants to bang
>making out back at her apartment
>she pukes and passes out (too far from my rabbit's foot)
>her friend drives me home
>angry horny drunk, so walk until I find a random bonfire
>talk at them for a minute, walk into their house and start cooking an omelette
>get kicked out
>next day still angry and horny
>download tinder
>match with girl whose house I broke into
>been talking for a few days, gonna go on a date on friday

>> No.16476914

>>16470639
you should be focusing on saving up money, getting your career and education set up, for when you do get married.
That's how things were done in the good ol' days (and i mean that literally, they were GOOD ol' days). Consider yourself blessed and lucky that you haven't had a gf to distract you and ruin your life.

>> No.16477532

>>16471405
>Read this to understand how women actually feel.
This is how one woman actually feels. God damn, are you guys retarded?

>> No.16477631

>>16477532
>People like people who are hot and dislike people who are not. More at 11.

>> No.16477845

>>16476891
What book by Jung should I read then?

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>>16471757
>tfw 6'1, good chin, broad shoulders, lift 4 times a week, funny and can carry a conversation
>tfw small, absolutely hideous dick
>tfw balding
I'm actively sabotaging possible relationships with girls because of this. Happened twice in the past few months. Just before it got to the sex part I got out so I don't have to reveal my disgusting dick.
Lord help me deal with the regret.

>> No.16478008

I got my first GF at 21. Really it's nothing special. Actually I regret it because it derailed my life. I prefer fucking hookers these days since they are cheap and readily available in my country.

>> No.16478026

>>16478008
Oh, last GF was 1 year ago and she was 18 aryan and I took her virginity. When I was younger I could never imagine doing anything like this. However my girlfriends were not that hot. Anyways the point I'm trying to make is that it's a good experience to have but your life won't change because of it. I haven't changed whatsoever from when I was a virgin as a teen.

>> No.16478080

>>16471267
>that might work with your personality
Gives me hope. Thanks anon!

>> No.16478142

Why don't more incels just turn to spirituality and give a positive meaning to celibacy?

>> No.16478253

>>16478142
How large part of the population is capable of that?

>> No.16478272

>>16472027
based incelephant

>> No.16478386

>>16477991
the vast majority of girls don't care unless you have a literal micropenis. don't worry about it man. stop watching so much porn

>> No.16478459

>>16474727
It’s okay londonfrog you’re not alone here

>> No.16478523

>>16477991
I have the complete reverse issue anon. Short, disgustingly skinny body, fucked up asymmetrical face, autistic personality, 0 friends have never had any romantic interaction with women but I have a girthy 7.5” dick which is rendered obsolete by the above. At least the prostitutes I’ve seen were impressed but I’d honestly rather be a dicklet instead of an unattractive autist any day

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>>16473865
Oh that barista was just being nice to me...

>> No.16478746

>>16478142
>why don't you LARP as a monk because you can't get laid
Recipe for disaster

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>>16473865

>> No.16478759

>>16472035
>>16476616

>> No.16479337

>>16472882
Yeah it's weird I don't like incels but judging by looks I'd rather be with the bottom group.

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>>16478568

>> No.16480828

>>16470639
Watch Dr K's "Talking with an incel about starting relationships"

>> No.16480871
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To all the incels on this board, don't lose hope! Yeah, some of us may have to settle for a girl that's not our dream waifu, get over it. Also realize that having your virginity is a powerful esoteric affect on people, some of these people might be autistic femoids you haven't met yet or used goods looking for a second lease on life. I regret every day throwing my virginity in the dumpster and it almost makes the
>tfw no gf
Worse, because the virgin part isn't bad, it's not having a second half to lean on, learn from, and grow to love.

>> No.16480884

>>16470651
a 28 year old prison gay virgin has next to no chance of getting a cute twink bf.

>> No.16480904

>>16471748
Damn what’s it like being a loser? I have only been with one women and it was a very short relationship. It was several years ago and I never get lonely or wish I had a relationship again. Relationships suck if you value independence. If it happens again, it happens, but I would never go out of my way to enter a relationship. Loneliness is a deeper problem than you being single. If you are lonely and that is your impetus for getting into a relationship, I can guarantee you that relationship will be shit and it won’t solve any of your problems. If you solve your loneliness, then any relationships you have will be build on better foundations. Why are you lonely?

>> No.16480954
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>>16480871
>it's not having a second half
This is a really awful mindset to have. If you feel like half a person because no gf then you're not going to magically become happy when you get one. There are other issues at play. Also you should bear in mind that adult male virgins are absolutely repugnant to the average woman.
>>16480904
I kind of feel the same way. I absolutely hate having to maintain someone else's ego. I notice this outside of romantic relationships too. Everyone seems to love complaining about shit and I'm just expected to sit and nod. I don't care and you telling me about the coworker you dislike makes me want to leave you and fuck your sister. Everybody is so much fucking work. I still speak with my parents and my little brother but that's about it.

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>i was in a bookstore
>i notice qt looking at In Search of Lost Time vol 1
>i gather my courage and do my first cold approach and tell him that i'm currently reading it too and that it's such a great book
>"buzz off buster", she answers to me

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>>16481279

>> No.16481372

>>16478008
I get the thing about regret. My first real gf was at 15, and it was such a fucking shitshow that I doubt I can reach any sort of high position in society. I'm not exaggerating, it really was that bad. At this point, I can't even worry about "love" anymore, it's just all about the sex.

>> No.16481378

>>16480954
Everything you are describing is completely natural, we are animals and anything that is outside of our survival is unnecessary and “extra work” for our body. If you have created an identity for yourself as a social butterfly or the intellectual man that everyone loves to talk to, then you are going to have a desire to maintain those relationships. If you don’t have such an identity then you may see those relationships as unnecessary work. I sometimes have a desire to spend time with friends. Most of the time I don’t and I am completely content doing my own thing. There’s only a problem with this once you start to believe it’s a problem. Sometimes I feel like it’s normal for relationships to be short and trying to make them last forever sours them.

>> No.16481387

>>16480871
This. Just except that there are girls out there for you, they're just probably going to be your equivalent in terms of undesirability. Not everybody can date up, it's just not physically possible. Giving up delusions of finding your dream soulmate is the first step towards actually building a healthy relationship with another human being.

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>>16481378
>the intellectual man that everyone loves to talk to
I think this is the case but it was completely unintentional. I changed schools at the beginning of grade 11 and decided then that there was no reason to make new friends. I spent all my free time sitting alone in the library reading whatever and people gradually started talking to me. Since then I've never tried to initiate conversations with people and I put zero effort into friendships for the reasons I mentioned earlier. I don't feel like this is a "problem" per se, but thinking of how unreceptive I was and am to people who try to keep some kind of friendship going makes me worry that I might be an autist. It feels like, by trying to befriend me, people are trying to extract something from me. Time, attention, whatever.
>Hey Anon, let's go to Tim's or something
>Hey we're going to the campus bar later
>We should get together sometime
>My girlfriend is having a party
For some reason I get a pit in my stomach when people do this. Intuitively I know that they probably like me and just want to hang out, but I still feel like they have some ulterior motives. It still feels like they're infringing on me. On top of that I'm completely content to do my own thing, so. Probably autism or schizoid personality disorder or something.
>Sometimes I feel like it’s normal for relationships to be short and trying to make them last forever sours them.
I feel this too. I don't know if it's just me, but I get tired of people very fucking quickly. Even if things have been going well for a month or two I still wonder "what's it going to be like a year from now? I'll probably be sick of them."

>> No.16481517

>>16472641
What do you mean "gave up"? They were liberated from marriage to the bottom 80% of men. A majority of women would probably prefer a menial job + being able to party to having a family. Soft prostitution like Onlyfans is of course even easier.

>> No.16481539

>>16481517
>A majority of women would probably prefer a menial job + being able to party to having a family
Most people prefer to be surrounded by their spouse, children, and grandchildren as they live out their final years. It's not about now; it's about later.

>> No.16481546

>>16481539
They make the decision in their 20s-30s.

>> No.16481557

>>16481546
Yea they make a decision around then, but most start to regret not having a family as soon as "the wall" comes to collect it's dues a few years later. Life as a single childless woman is a lot less fun when you're not longer young and attractive.