/esog/ Esoterism General

[Anonymous No.16458573]

W haven't had one of these threads in a while, and I think it's a good time to have one again.
This thread is for the discussion of texts related to Hermetism, Neoplatonism (in its mystic manifestations), Gnosticism, Kabbalah, Cabala, Angel Magic, Alchemy, Paracelsianism, Boehmeian Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry, Illuminism, Swedenborgianism, Mesmerism, as well as the more recent branches of the esoteric tree (Golden Dawn, Traditionalism, Blavatskian Theosophy, e.t.c.).

Recommend books, ask for recommendations, post nice excerpts, ask burning questions, e.t.c.

[Anonymous No.16458580]

Recommended Reading List [WIP]:

>Hermetism
Corpus Hermetica -- Copenhaver
Hermetica II -- Litwa
The Egyptian Hermes -- Fowden
The Eternal Hermes -- Faivre
Thrice-Greatest Hermes -- Mead
>Neoplatonism (in its mystic manifestations)
The Shape of Ancient Thought -- McEvilley
Ancient Philosophy, Mystery, and Magic -- Kingsley
The First Philosophers -- Waterfield
The Pythagorean Sourcebook and Library -- Guthrie
Complete Works -- Plato
Complete Works -- Aristotle
Enneads -- Plotinus
Elements of Theology -- Proclus
De mysteriis -- Iamblichus
Commentary on the Dream of Scipio -- Macrobius
Chaldean Oracles - Majercik
The Orphic Hymns -- Athanassakis
Theurgy and the Soul -- Shaw
Philosophy and Theurgy in Late Antiquity -- Uzdavinys
Philosophy as a Rite of Rebirth -- Uzdavinys
Orpheus and the Roots of Platonism -- Uzdavinys
>Occult Philosophy:
Western Esotericism: A Guide for the Perplexed -- Hanegraaf
Secret Teaching of All Ages -- Hall
Three Books of Occult Philosophy -- Agrippa
Transcendental Magic -- Levi
History of Magic -- Levi
Occult Traditions -- Cheak
Prometheus and Atlas -- Jorjani
>Gnosticism
Seven Sermons to the Dead -- Jung
Nag hammadi library
The Gnostic World
>Kabbalah
Inner Space -- Kaplan
Jewish Meditation -- Kaplan
Meditation and Kabbalah -- Kaplan
Sefer Yetzirah
Bahir
Zohar
Etz Chayim
>Cabala
Platonic Theology -- Ficino
Nova de Universis Philosophia -- Patrizi
900 Theses -- Mirandola
Oedipus Aegyptiacus -- Kircher
>Angel Magic:
Five Books of Magic -- John Dee
>Grimoire tradition
Techniques of Graeco-Egyptian(/Solomonic) Magic -- Skinner
Encyclopedia Goetica -- Stratton-Kent
PGM -- Betz
>Alchemy:
Psychology and Alchemy -- Jung
The Hermetic Tradition -- Evola
Alchemical Traditions -- Cheak
Mysteries of the Cathedrals
Dwellings of the Philosophers
Book of the Composition of Alchemy
Turba Philosophorum
>Astrology:
Tetrabiblos -- Ptolemy
>Tarot:
Way of the Tarot -- Jodorowski
Meditations on the Tarot -- Tomberg
>Paracelsianism:
The Alchemical Writings of Paracelsus
>Boehmeian Theosophy:
Aurora -- Boehme
>Rosicrucianism:
The Rosicrucian Enlightenment -- Yates
Rosicrucian Trilogy -- Godwin
>Freemasonry:
Morals and Dogma of etc... -- Pike
>Illuminism:
The Secret School of Wisdom -- Wages
>Swedenborgianism:
Heaven and Hell -- Swedenborg
>Blavatskian Theosophy:
Isis Unveiled -- Blavatsky
The Secret Doctrine -- Blavatsky
The Mystic Qabalah -- Fortune
>Golden Dawn:
The Golden Dawn -- Regardie
>Thelema:
Magick: Book 4, Liber ABA -- Crowley
>Typhonian:
The Magickal Revival -- Grant
The Nightside of Eden -- Grant
>Traditionalism:
The Crisis of the Modern World -- Guenon
The Reign of Quantity and Sign of Times -- Guenon

[Anonymous No.16458601]

In other news, the third volume of Introduction to Magic is slated for release at the end of July of next year.

https://www.innertraditions.com/books/introduction-to-magic-volume-iii

[Anonymous No.16458629]

We haven't had one in awhile because no one gives a shit. Take you stupid thread back to the losers at /x/ where it belongs.

[Anonymous No.16458638]

>Secondly, Guénon was quick to recognize Jewish Kabbalah to bear the quality of genuine esotericism which, in his opinion, is distinguished by universalism and is beyond any particularisms. But in fact, Kabbalah insists on the ethnic specialness of Jews, the uniqueness of their fate, and their metaphysical opposition to all other peoples and religions no less (if not more) than the Talmud and exoteric Judaism. This clearly contradicts Guénon’s definition of esotericism, according to which principles of universal unity and the merging of all spiritual and religious forms into a common concept should predominate. Even in its most transcendental aspects, Kabbalah affirms not unity, but a radical and indelible metaphysical-ethnic dualism.

https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/counter-initiation-critical-remarks-some-aspects-doctrine-rene-guenon

Can someone who's read a bunch of primary source Kabbalistic texts confirm or deny this for me? With all the Greek and Eastern stuff on plate I haven't been able to seriously read through Kabbalistic stuff yet

[Anonymous No.16458640]

>>16458573
Isn't ritual magick kind of a meme considering it works the same way as law of attraction or self-hypnosis(imprinting the sub-conscious)

[Anonymous No.16460091]

bump

[Anonymous No.16460145]

chaos magick master race reporting.

enjoy your dogma, slavefags

[Anonymous No.16460168]

why do men make magic so complicated? ceremonial this and that, robes, drawing circles...the women laugh at you cause all we do is put some herb together and call it a day, and our magic will hit twice as hard.

[Anonymous No.16460170]

>>16460145
Fav books?

[Anonymous No.16460197]

>>16458640
The difference is that the way invocation and evocation works is that the practitioner views these spirits/dieties as being real (they are). Some people like to make it into a psychological thing but those are for people who aren't psychically sensitive in any way.

Meaning there are spirits you can "summon" to go after your enemies, so there is an objective manifestation. You go to different spirits for different things - love, money, etc...to leave all of this to your "sub concious" well I feel these people aren't actually practicing cause I've seen some shit go down.

[Anonymous No.16460298]

>>16460170
chaos magicians can't read

[Anonymous No.16460320]

>>16460168
If I ever decide to start messing around magick, it will be skyclad, so....

[Anonymous No.16460347]

>>16460170
>>16460298

yes we do read. a lot. we have a huge library already. You can download much of it simply by searching for 'chaos magick' on the pirate bay and downloading the torrents. there are several. off the top of my head, Liber Null and Psychonaut is a classic.

https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=14386614

This link will show you the list of one of our libraries and also the magnet link to the torrent.

Here is a brief taste of some of our books

Fr Apfelmann - Blackout And Sigils-netluv.pdf53.25KiB
Fr Apfelmann - Quantum Kabala-netluv.pdf57.94KiB
Fr Choronzon - Chaos Astrology-netluv.pdf42.32KiB
Fr Choronzon - Liber Cyber-netluv.pdf490.97KiB
Fr Choronzon - The Wishing Well or Releasing The Buterfly-netluv.pdf67.36KiB
Fr Elijah - Angels of Chaos-netluv.pdf523.39KiB
Fr Neonfaust - Practical Applications of the Chaossphere-netluv.pdf52.46KiB
Fr Nicht - Liber Nicht-netluv.pdf238.85KiB
Fr Sadashtor - Dagon Rising-netluv.pdf105.76KiB
Fr Samuel - Chaos Magick Vol 3-netluv.pdf624.62KiB
Fr Tenebrous - Cults of Cthulhu-netluv.pdf296.44KiB
Fr Tenebrous - Disciples of Dagon-netluv.pdf119.84KiB
Fr UD - Egregore-netluv.pdf61.86KiB
Fr UD - Models of Magic-netluv.pdf45.5KiB
Fr UD - Practical Sigil Magic-netluv.pdf2.01MiB
Hall-Nick-Chaos-Sorcery-netluv.pdf9.3MiB
Hunting of the Fnord-netluv.pdf227.88KiB
IOT - Chaos-Magick-Theory-netluv.pdf52.67KiB
KAOS 14 Black Lodge of Santa Cruz-netluv.pdf337.52KiB
KAOS 14-netluv.pdf3.24MiB
KAOS Magick Journal 98-netluv.pdf370.22KiB
L.O.O.N. - Apikorsus-netluv.pdf86.13KiB
Marik - Chaos Magick-Magickal Terrorism-netluv.pdf56.42KiB
MAZE - Kinesthetic Magick-netluv.pdf67.4KiB
Meta Magick The Book of ATEM-netluv.pdf19.08MiB
Monsters and Magical Sticks - There's No Such Thing as Hypnosis-Heller-Steele-netluv.pdf1.40MiB
My 4shared.zip.tmp7.17MiB
NAOS-Practical-Guide-to-Modern-Magick-netluv.pdf8.71MiB
Neonomicon-netluv.pdf169.82KiB
Norton, Josh - MIB and Magickal Phenomena-netluv.pdf57.74KiB
Occultus-Conturbo-netluv.pdf1.81MiB
oZZion - Sigil of Flesh Ritual-netluv.pdf11.07KiB
Pagani, Paula - The Cardinal Rites of Chaos-netluv.pdf578.22KiB
Parker, Ryan - Necronomicon Information Text-netluv.pdf55.92KiB
Parker, Ryan - Rite Of The Ghouls-netluv.txt21.33KiB
Persona Navitae 353 - The Manifestation of Kali in Universe-netluv.pdf76.43KiB
Philip H Farber -The Book of Exhilaration and Mastery-netluv.pdf54.55KiB
Pocket Guide to Chaos Magick-netluv.pdf10.73KiB
PostModernMagick-netluv.pdf461.23KiB
Principia Chaotica-netluv.pdf10.73KiB
progression sigils - jaq d hawkings-netluv.epub401.59KiB
Quantum Consciousness - The Guide to Experiencing Quantum Psychology-netluv.pdf11.07MiB
Runyon, Carroll - Secret of the Dark Mirror-netluv.pdf155.31KiB
Rysen, Fenwick - Occult Swordplay - Basics-netluv.pdf34.97KiB
Rysen, Fenwick - Occult Swordplay - Blades-netluv.pdf18.3KiB
Sherrard, JF - Cultivating Madness-netluv.pdf357.94KiB

[Anonymous No.16460358]

St Faust - Magician as Spiritual Anarchist-netluv.pdf128.18KiB
Suba - HIGH MAGICK The Elemental Adept-netluv.pdf267.99KiB
Tactical Magic by Seth-netluv.pdf10.73KiB
techniques of high magic-netluv.pdf1.75MiB
Templum 99 - Chaos Magick-netluv.pdf8.83KiB
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The Basics of Magick-netluv.pdf87.16KiB
The Book of Eris-netluv.pdf10.73KiB
The Book of Five Rings-netluv.pdf338.21KiB
The Cyber Spellbook Magick in the Virtual World-netluv.pdf6.89MiB
The Essential Skills of Magick-netluv-netluv.pdf113.16KiB
The Paradigmal Pirate-netluv.pdf26.98MiB
Things_You_Dont_Want_to_Hear_a_Chaos_Magician_Say-netluv.pdf7.93KiB
Welz, Karl Hans - Magick of the Future-netluv.pdf1.42MiB
Wilde, Julian - Grimoire of Chaos Magick-netluv.pdf69KiB
XD888 - Rise To Consciousness-netluv.pdf
Phil Hine/Hine, Phil - Techniques of Modern Shamanism 1-netluv.pdf114.93KiB
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Phil Hine/Hine, Phil - The Sending of Eight.htm4.64KiB
Phil Hine/Hine, Phil - The Tyranny of Print-netluv.pdf40.83KiB
Phil Hine/Phil Hine - Analytic Techniques for Sorcery Interventions [1 eBook - pdf]-netluv.pdf104.93KiB
Phil Hine/Phil Hine - Prime chaos-netluv.pdf750.76KiB
Phil Hine/Phil Hine - The Pseudonomicon [1 eBook - PDF]-netluv.pdf3.30MiB
Phil Hine/Tantrum Magick-netluv.pdf15.22KiB
Stephen Mace/Stephen_Mace_-_Seizing_power-netluv.pdf7MiB
Stephen Mace/Stephen Mace - Shaping Formless Fire-netluv.pdf2.96MiB
Stephen Mace/Stephen Mace - Sorcery as Virtual Mechanics-netluv.pdf14.64MiB
Stephen Mace/Stephen Mace - Squeezing being - a modern approach to Reality manipulation-netluv.pdf19.04MiB
56951040-the-pop-culture-grimoire-netluv.pdf565.87KiB
advanced-magick-for-beginners-alan-chapman-netluv.pdf41.08MiB
Areosol - Smuggling Sigils Across-netluv.pdf42.25KiB
Basic Sigils-netluv.pdf10.73KiB
Channing, Anton - Elemental Spirits-netluv.pdf93.36KiB
Chaos - A Very Short Introduction-netluv.pdf4.96MiB
Combat Magic-netluv.pdf34.30KiB
Cornett, Larry - Quantum Magic-netluv.pdf52.28KiB
Coughlin, John J - Rite of Yog-Sothoth-netluv.pdf307.05KiB
Cycles_of_Chaos_-_Deconstructing_Initiation-netluv.pdf30.29KiB
Davis, Erik - Techgnosis-netluv.pdf125.25KiB
Dead Jellyfish - Quick Guide to Practical Magick-netluv.pdf83.7KiB
Dictionary of the Forgotten Ones-netluv.pdf49.24KiB
Dukes, Ramsey - SSOTBME-An Essay on Magic-netluv.pdf1.01MiB
Dukes, Ramsey - The Charlatan and The Magus-netluv.pdf64.26KiB
Ellis - The Assault on Reality-netluv.pdf395.21KiB
Encyclopedia Arcane - Chaos Magic-netluv.pdf14.47MiB
Fenwick-Rysen-Wtf-is-an-Egregore-netluv.pdf35.92KiB
Ford, Michael - Chaos Magick and Luciferism-netluv.pdf26.49KiB

[Anonymous No.16460361]

Austin Osman Spare/A Book of Satyrs-netluv.pdf1.38MiB
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Austin Osman Spare/Spare, AO - The Logomachy of Zos-netluv.pdf509.31KiB
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Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - Becoming Magic-netluv.pdf54.31KiB
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Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - Journey into Darkness-netluv.pdf52.41KiB
Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - Practical Cursing-A Magician's View-netluv.pdf55.23KiB
Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - Standing Stones as Strange Attractors-netluv.pdf52.47KiB
Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - Testing Limitations-netluv.pdf57.52KiB
Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - The Cauldron of Subservience-netluv.pdf79.93KiB
Jaq Hawkins/Hawkins, Jaq - The Real Meaning of Initiations-netluv.pdf49.24KiB
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[Anonymous No.16460404]

>>16460347
>>16460358
>>16460361
Based chaos magic revenge spammer

[Anonymous No.16460429]

I am going through RAW's Prometheus Rising and it's alright so far.

[Anonymous No.16460436]

>>16460347
>>16460358
>>16460361
Based

[Anonymous No.16460674]

>>16460347
>yes we do read. a lot
I see, pic related.

[Anonymous No.16460831]

>>16460674
where can I get more of these fun meditation exercises without the penis stuff? I would also prefer not to eat cum or feces.

[Anonymous No.16460858]

>>16460831
check out a book called 'raja yoga' by swami vivekananda. also, look up pranayama

[Anonymous No.16460904]

>>16460831
>he got filtered by the skullfuck

[Anonymous No.16460993]

>>16458573
based

[Anonymous No.16461134]

>>16458638
I agree with him but Jewish Kabbalah evolved into a form for Western man under the respelling Qabalah. From Dion Fortune’s Mystical Qabalah:

>6. It is not necessarily incumbent upon us to do certain things or hold certain ideas because the Rabbis who lived before Christ had certain views. The world has moved on since those days and we are under a new dispensation but what was true in principle then will be true in principle now, and of value to us. The modern Qabalist is the heir of the ancient Qabalist, but he must re-interpret doctrine and re-formulate method in the light of the present dispensation if the heritage he has received is to be of any practical value to him.

>7. I do not clairn that the modern Qabalistic teachings as I have learnt them are identical with those of the pre-Christian Rabbis, but I claim that they are the legitimate descendants thereof and the natural development therefrom.

>8. The nearer the source the purer the stream. In order to discover first principles we must go to the fountain-head. But a river receives many tributaries in the course of its flow, and these need not necessarily be polluted. If we want to discover whether they are pure or not, we compare them with the pristine stream, and if they pass this test they may well be permitted to mingle with the main body of waters and swell their strength. So it is with a tradition: that which is not antagonistic will be assimilated. We must always test the purity of a tradition by reference to first principles, but we shall equally judge of the vitality of a tradition by its power to assimilate. It is only a dead faith which remains uninfluenced by contemporary thought.

[Anonymous No.16461270]

>>16458638
Thing is you have to be an absolute hylic to think that anything related to the symbolism of the bible applies exclusively to Jews or that an idea or concept that someone thinks only applies along ethnic lines does so- your essentially just believing their idiocy if you do. All the characters and events can be interpreted symbolically or you can take a shitty pol tier stance and say its got ethnic barriers. The key question is: do souls have ethnicity? If you believe they do then you've already filtered yourself so hard from any true understanding that you might as well go be a nazi or some shit. All the concepts that are used in Kabbalah that I've ever read about can apply to "gentiles" as well.

At any rate, a lot of it is just useless intellectualism that is blow out of the water by a decent esoteric reading of the gospels.

[Anonymous No.16462504]

Any good lit on how to change or form new beliefs?
I have trouble crossing into actually fully believing a new belief that I try to create

[Anonymous No.16462549]

>check out /esog/
>grains of pure wisdom mixed with literal soul poison
God, I love the internet.

[Anonymous No.16463425]

Bump

[Anonymous No.16463452]

>>16460347
nice job slipping in the feds there

[Anonymous No.16463507]

>>16460347
>choronzon
>naos
it's a no from me dawg

[Anonymous No.16463532]

>>16458638
I think Guenon was aware that most spiritual traditions are linked to a specific group of people. His point is that in some societies the chain of tradition has been broken, whereas in others it retains its true characteristics. So kabbalah can be viewed as a real spirituality AS IT MANIFESTS for jews. Obviously spirituality via exegesis of the talmud is not a valid path for someone who is not jewish

[Anonymous No.16463553]

>>16461134
i dont think guenon would view the late 19thc western invention of qabalah as legitimate at all

[Anonymous No.16463974]

>>16463532
>guenon
into the garbage it goes

[Anonymous No.16464407]

>>16462549
Which is which?

[Anonymous No.16465784]

>>16460168
>ceremonial this and that, robes, drawing circles...the women laugh at you cause all we do is put some herb together and call it a day, and our magic will hit twice as hard.
It's mostly women that are into all the ceremonial shrine-selfie taking bullshit

[Anonymous No.16465825]

>>16463553
Who cares

[Anonymous No.16465941]

>>16458573
>
I think Kant and Schopenhauer provides good metaphysic foundations for the knowledge of esotericism.