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>memorised all 1st declension noun endings.
we're gonna make it bros.

>> No.16453047

>>16452917
>learning Latin
uhhhhhh

>> No.16453095

>>16453047
>thinks that Latin is the only inflected language
t. English major

>> No.16453109

>>16453095
The only languages that use ordinals to enumerate declensions are Latin and Greek.

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>>16452917
good luck learning the third one, its a bitch but you'll get it

>> No.16454583

>>16452917
Basatus

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arma ranamque cano

>> No.16454743

I memorized 24 Greek words for "the". I'm not a brainlet anymore, am I?

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>>16454743
Cerebellum sum, cerebelli nihil a me alienum puto

>> No.16454783

I literally don't know the grammar of any language I speak. I just go with the flow of words. I've never been able to get into grammar. Nouns, pronouns, whatever the fuck. I never memorized anything. Whatever language I learn, I just "feel" it.

>> No.16454793

>>16452917
Just to remind you, no one fluently reads Latin.
You can study specific texts and learn to read them, but when you move onto a new text it will be like starting all over again.

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>>16453109
Found the actual linguist.

>> No.16454805

>>16454793
didn't-practice-latin-post-high-school cope

>> No.16454807

>>16454793
Are you speaking from experience, or is this just some gay little regurgitated tidbit you heard somewhere once?
I've heard people point out the significant stylistic, grammatical, and vocabulary differences between texts (to be expected given it's almost 2 millennia history), but that it is a cohesive, consistent, and transferable language otherwise.

>> No.16454815

>>16454793
nah you're wrong. it may take time to get adjusted to an author's style but it's nowhere near close to like having to learn the language again

>> No.16454967

>>16454793
The Church regularly uses Latin in its day to day business.

>> No.16455062

>>16454783
You can't just 'feel' a language you're learning when you have no idea about sentence structure and other grammar bits. It's not always gonna work and sometimes you need to refer to the grammar.
You can 'feel' your own language because native speakers know the way something needs to be said without even knowing the rules, even though that's not always the case. Even native speakers get it wrong sometimes. Therefore, grammar is important.

>> No.16455145

>>16455062
Ever since Lingua Latina became popular I've noticed a lot of people acting as if they can start there and intuitively understand the language by mouthing the words without any understanding. I even saw somebody in a thread a few days ago suggesting that people should get an audio file of Latin and just repeatedly mimic the words in order to learn the language. Of course none of these people actually know the language they're advising people on so it's completely ridiculous. Sometimes I hate the internet.

>> No.16455162

>>16455145
yeah no one ever mastered latin without studying the grammar. good luck reading livy without knowing what an ablative absolute is lmfao

>> No.16455706

>>16455162
That's exactly what I meant, I used to translate latin texts and you really need your grammar notes most times. Specially in the beginning when you start learning it, you might be able to sense the general meaning of a sentence though. But only if you've been studying it for a long time.

>> No.16455718

1st declension is the easiest one. Wait till you do verbs.

>> No.16455727

>>16455706
yeah i wasn't being sarcastic. latin literature can get so dense and arcane that it seems impossible that someone could understand it without a deep knowledge of the grammar.

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>>16454967
>The Church

>> No.16456939

>>16455760
roasties hate church wtf

>> No.16456943

>>16455718
>Wait till you do verbs
wait till you get to attic greek verbs. you'll want to neck yourself

>> No.16456959

>>16456943
What's so bad about them? I'm working with Koine and it's one of the first things we started on.

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How do I learn Sanskrit without autistically declining and conjugating over and over and over again?
I already did that for Latin and I'm tired now.
Am I never going to make it?

>> No.16457018

>>16456959
It's not so bad but it can be frustrating, with all the irregularities, vowel lengthening/reduplication rules, forms that look similar to one another etc. It makes the Latin verbal system seem easy in comparison. Afaik Koine verbs had simplified quite a lot. For example, nowhere near as many μι verbs, which were starting to die out by the time of the New Testament, and the middle voice isn't as common.

>> No.16457043

>>16454793
Brainlet cope

>> No.16457123

>>16457010
If you wish to learn Ancient languages, there is a method of remembering past lives. It's not a story the high schools would tell you. It's a Hindu legend. Siddharta was an ascetic of the Brahman, so powerful and so wise he could use the Lent to influence the bifidobacteria to create strength… He had such a knowledge of the fasting and the patience, he could even keep the ones he cared about from eating.