Why aren't you reading the greatest philosopher of our time?

[Anonymous No.16448229]

>Let’s start with my ideal world – the world of thousands, preferably even tens of thousands, of neocameralist city-states and ministates, or neostates. The organizations which own and operate these neostates are for-profit sovereign corporations, or sovcorps. For the moment, let’s assume a one-to-one mapping between sovcorp and neostate. […] Let’s pin down the neocameralist dramatis personae by identifying the people who work for a sovcorp as its agents, the people or organizations which collectively own it as its subscribers, and the people who live in its neostate as its residents.

>A Neocameral ‘neostate’ is not owned by its residents or its agents. Its ‘monarch’ (or ‘CEO’) is an executive appointment. (90% of all confusion about Neocameralism, and Neoreaction in general, stems from a failure to grasp this elementary point.) Note: ‘subscribers’ (plural). More coming on this immediately.

>Every patch of land on the planet has a primary owner, which is its sovcorp. Typically, these owners will be large, impersonal corporations. We call them sovcorps because they’re sovereign. You are sovereign if you have the power to render any plausible attack on your primary property, by any other sovereign power, unprofitable. In other words, you maintain general deterrence. […] (Sovereignty is a flat, peer-to-peer relationship by definition. The concept of hierarchical sovereignty is a contradiction in terms. …) […] The business of a sovcorp is to make money by deterring aggression. Since human aggression is a serious problem, preventing it should be a good business. Moreover, the existence of unprofitable governments in your vicinity is serious cause for concern, because unprofitable governments tend to have strange decision structures and do weird, dangerous things. […] (Nuclear deterrence (mutual assured destruction) is only one small class of deterrent designs. To deter is to render predictably unprofitable. Predictably unprofitable violence is irrational. Irrational violence is certainly not unheard of. But it is much, much rarer than you may think. Most of the violence in the world today is quite rational, IMHO.) […] General deterrence is a complex topic which deserves its own post. For the moment, assume that every square inch of the planet’s surface is formally owned by some sovcorp, that no one disagrees on the borders, and that deterrence between sovcorps is absolute.

[Anonymous No.16448587]

So no one can refute him.
I'm satisfied with my choices

[Anonymous No.16448592]

>begins with politics
>greatest
I'm good

[Anonymous No.16449520]

>>16448592
Yes. Try refuting it.
You can't

[Anonymous No.16449575]

>no, THIS is sovereignty
ok sweetie
philisophy is a meme along with most of this board desu

[Anonymous No.16449616]

>>16448229
If I wanted jewish utopian crap, I´ll read Marx. At least hes not a merchant-lover.

[Anonymous No.16449640]

>>16449616
Marx hated jews, you illiterate retard

[Anonymous No.16449793]

Jesus Christ it's like some cyberpunk DnD source book or the plot from metal gear.

[Anonymous No.16449796]

>>16449640
Self hating Jews are a common occurance, silly.

[Anonymous No.16449839]

>>16448229
Wouldn’t be a terrible place to live, but there are definitely economies of scale in terms of military might, so there would need to be some sort of arrangement for mutual defense, and the bureaucracy would grow from there until we had something resembling modern nation states.

[Anonymous No.16449848]

>>16449640
And yet his entire philosophy is drenched in jewishness. He correctly saw that the religion of jews is money, and proceeded to create another religion of money.

[Anonymous No.16449980]

>>16449848
>He correctly saw that the religion of jews is money, and proceeded to create another religion of money.
A one that seeks to abolish money. Thats why I like him better than the one in OP.

[Anonymous No.16450291]

>>16448229
What the fuck is the point of this? Real life isn't like Europa Universalis where you pick your ideology or whatever.

[Anonymous No.16450302]

>>16449980
>A one that seeks to abolish money.
But fails to do just that. It's a religion for greedy money lovers who like to pretend they're not greedy money lovers.

[Anonymous No.16450381]

>>16450302
>But fails to do just that.
No religion ever succeeds at that. The other thing is just plain wrong.

[Anonymous No.16450387]

>>16450381
*no religion succeeds at its goal

[Anonymous No.16450402]

>>16450381
How is it wrong?
And no other religion claims to want to abolish money so no wonder they ever succeed at that, genius.

[Anonymous No.16450424]

>>16448229
Wait, Yarvin's just Hoppe but with techbabble?

[Anonymous No.16450425]

>>16450402
Because its wrong, ameridumb. When you make a ridicolous claim, you either back it up or get laughed at.

[Anonymous No.16450433]

>>16450425
>everyone I don't agree with is a burger
cope harder, commie.
>When you make a ridicolous claim, you either back it up or get laughed at.
It wasn't a ridiculous claim, it's very logical. You're so sure it's wrong so tell me why then

[Anonymous No.16450434]

I totally disagree with Moldbugs conception of the American system as "clerical oligarchy." As someone who supports unironic clericalism in the form of intergralism, I think that "finacial oligarchy" does a much better job at describing America's elites.

[Anonymous No.16450485]

>>16450434
To put it in Spenglerian terms, there are both forces active in American politics. You have the financial class as degenerative inheritors of nobility and you have the intelligentsia (media, pundits, university professors, etc.) as degenerative inheritors of the priesthood. Both are not exclusive categories but degrees of being which may overlap. America is a clerical oligarchy insofar as the dominant ideology is not shaped by the financial class but by the extra-institutional intelligentsia.

[Anonymous No.16450495]

>>16450433
>I have 2m dick
>No, thats ridicolous. What reason is there to think that?
>Ugh, no, its very logical claim. You have to prove me wrong
Amerimutts once again proving to be the worthless creatures they are.

[Anonymous No.16450626]

>>16450485
The media is not a distinct entity from finance. Any such entity with any influence is a multibillion dollar corporation with a vested interest in the financial sphere.

[Anonymous No.16450651]

>>16448229
>most violence is rational IMHO

post source or gtfo retard

[Anonymous No.16450664]

>>16450495
still not a burger but keep projecting
Also thanks for proving you're retarded, now I understand why you thought I was wrong.

[Anonymous No.16450684]

>>16450626
Yes and no. In medieval Europe, the priesthood also was not a distinct identity from nobility. It overlapped with it. But there was still conflict within the system, it's not smooth. The financial elites are not acting entirely in a financially optimal way, they are dependent on the moral sanctioning of the intelligentsia through media projection. The financial elites may own media channels but they do not produce ideology, they merely recruit ideologues that may morally sanction their financial agenda but not necessarily so.

[Anonymous No.16450718]

>>16448229
It doesn't matter if I agree or disagree with him. I have a natural compulsion to dislike him because he looks like a little shrimp dick retard.
There's actually no way I can respect someone smaller than me.

[Anonymous No.16451387]

>>16449793
And that's aa good thing

[Anonymous No.16451409]

>>16450718
The only thing Moldbug is uniquely useful for is memeing "read old books" into existence and giving us "Cathedral". That's it. Absolutely nothing he says cannot be obtained by just reading old books. Half of what he says is just literally quoting Carlyle anyways.

>>16450684
People have a problem wrapping their heads around this idea of "put things into place and just let them happen". I think it's a linguistic issue, there is no good clean way of describing that phenomena, it's all very unwieldy. Rupert Murdoch wants poz on TV, so he hires people to make that happen. He isn't personally running through casting lists to make sure every program fits some byzantine gay-nigger quota, he just needs to give money to the right people and let them do their thing.

[Anonymous No.16451428]

>>16450664
>Another post
>Another failure to back up your claim with reasoning
Consider yourself debunked.

[Anonymous No.16451680]

>>16451409
>Cathedral
Curious choice of negative terms for a man of his...background

[Anonymous No.16451696]

>>16451680
it's not a negative term, it's a matter-of-fact term. I do agree however in that the law-based American society is much more of a Temple than a Cathedral, considering the power which lawyers and judges have.

[Anonymous No.16451724]

>>16451696
Yes, that seems more fitting.

[Anonymous No.16451889]

autism isnt a philosophy its a disease

[Anonymous No.16451914]

>>16448229
He's one of those dudes who thinks he can just peddle his opinions as "philosophy" without it being held up to any rigor. You can basically ask about any of his propositions "how did you come up with this" and then he would just use circular logic and point out some other shit he spewed out in an endless loop of not having any credible foundation.

[Anonymous No.16451930]

i refuse to read anybody that i mog sorry

[Anonymous No.16451950]

>>16451930
bod mog or brain mog?

[Anonymous No.16451973]

>>16451950
both, brainlets are always impressed by "thinkers" who dress up obvious observations in rhetorical obscurantism, once you decode his summary of truisms about western political orthodoxy there's nothing to see. conclusions and proposed praxis are just manifestation of his autism, baseless and presupposed

[Anonymous No.16452034]

>>16451680
He didn't choose the term. It comes from the Cathedral vs Bazaar software development styles. The former is top-down to serve a specific end. It's very good at achieving that end, and results in software hyper-polished towards that end. The latter views software as a sort of amorphous blob that doesn't have any one end. It's very good at creating a overall agreeable software with little bugs and high QoL (from a programmer's point of view). All Moldbug did was work this model into something usable for politics.

If we actually look at who is in power, we will, of course, see that the Cathedral is actually a Synagogue. Many of Europe's finest Synagogues were actually built within other buildings, so a Synagogue being hidden within a Cathedral is completely apt.

[Anonymous No.16452480]

>>16451950

[Anonymous No.16452624]

based

[Anonymous No.16453309]

>>16452034
woah

[Anonymous No.16453318]

>>16452034
>a sort of amorphous blob that doesn't have any one end
UNE TIGE? UN RHIZOME MONSIEUR?

[Anonymous No.16453424]

>>16448229
His ideas can be interesting, but his writing style is always so cringe. The end of this quote is funny though. It's like talking to a physicist who just described a elephant as a 10' sphere.

[Anonymous No.16454248]

>>16448229
Seems he renamed countries to sovcorps and called it his "philosophy".

[Anonymous No.16454260]

>>16448229
Within him are two dogs that are fighting.

Because he's a goy, he likes to hear himself talk, and never realizes how stupid he sounds. Because he's a Jew, he can't abandon a losing strategy. He has to double down every time someone laughs at his bullshit.

If nothing else, it's a sobering reminder of the downside of interracial marriages. Not saying there aren't upsides.

[Anonymous No.16454277]

>>16453424
Right

> Aggression is a serious problem... let us now assume that nobody disagrees and that deterrence is absolute

[Anonymous No.16454384]

he really does look like linus torvalds

[Anonymous No.16455213]

>>16451914
>>16451914
Hes basado and you didnt read

[Anonymous No.16456336]

>>16454260
Woah