What does this book 'Urantia' entail?

[Anonymous No.16426057]

Seen it shown here a few times. What is the general gist of it? Is it a worthwhile read or just schizo nonsense?

[Anonymous No.16426124]

>>16426057
>Is it a worthwhile read or just schizo nonsense?
Yes

[Anonymous No.16426135]

>>16426124
Ok, what makes it worthwhile as well as schizo?

[Anonymous No.16426365]

Bump

[Anonymous No.16427133]

>being nonfusible to thought adjusters
based

[Anonymous No.16427155]

>>16427133
You wrote a theology Horia? Extremely based.

[Anonymous No.16427189]

>>16426057
Bible fan-fic that tries to be sciency

[Anonymous No.16427246]

>>16426057
I'm fairly confident that it is genuine channeled material, but I'm also fairly confident whatever beings the writer channeled were most likely trolling the ever living fuck out of him. It's a very entertaining read if you have a strong interest in esoteric spiritual/religious material, but it's not really anything of value beyond that. It's definitely fiction. I'm sure it was legitimately channelled and not a hoax though, because the law of one material confirms it as such.

I believe the law of one material can be confirmed as legitimate channeled material because in it, 'Ra' describes the precise geometry of hidden inner chambers within the great pyramid at Giza, chambers that were only discovered just recently in 2018.

However, Ra could also be trolling. But I'm inclined to believe he's legit, because he drops a lot of other extremely esoteric references and clues that there is no fucking way the hippies who channeled him would have came up with. For instance, they ask him about Hitler and the most spiritually 'evil' people in history. Ra does not list Hitler amongst the evil, but simply says he was confused. Much of what Ra says also strongly supports "Christian Identity" theories on racial history, though also condemns the idea of racial superiority at the same time much in the same way as Christ's parable of the lord who gave his servants gold expecting a return on his investment.

For Christians suspecting this 'Ra' Character is a demon, I would remind you of how the Bible explicitly mentions you can tell apart demons from harmless spirits by whether or not they reject Christ's divinity. Ra does not. Interesting shit, but you need a lot of very esoteric knowledge from many sources to recognize the Ra material as legitimate.

[Anonymous No.16427408]

>>16426057
>The Urantia Book is noted for its high level of internal consistency and an advanced writing style
>Skeptic Martin Gardner, in a book otherwise highly critical of The Urantia Book, writes that it is "highly imaginative" and that the "cosmology outrivals in fantasy the cosmology of any science-fiction work known to me."
>Parts I, II, and III are chiefly written in expository language. The papers are informational, matter-of-fact, and instructional.
>Part IV of the book is written as a biography of Jesus' life, and some feel it is a rich narrative with well-developed characters, high attention to detail, woven sub-plots, and realistic dialogue
>Martin Gardner considers Part IV to be an especially "well-written, impressive work," and says, "Either it is accurate in its history, coming directly from higher beings in position to know, or it is a work of fertile imagination by someone who knew the New Testament by heart and who was also steeped in knowledge of the times when Jesus lived."

Its too coherent and sophisticated to simply be dismissed as 'schizo nonsense'.
Its either a very elaborate hoax (the real author is still not known to this day) or it really is from divine non-human authorship.
Regardless it is a masterpiece of literature even if you take it as spiritual science fiction, but if it actually is what it claims to be then the implications are profound.

[Anonymous No.16427471]

>>16427246
So its primarily for Christian audiences?

[Anonymous No.16427598]

>>16427471
The Urantia book is, yet. It's essentially presented as a far more clear, detailed, uo to date, and complete Bible, written in (relatively) modern English. It goes into detail clarifying things that would have been far to complex for most to comprehend in such detail 2000 years ago. It's a very entertaining and interesting read as a result, but I'm also pretty that confident it's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16427605]

>>16427408
>Its either a very elaborate hoax (the real author is still not known to this day) or it really is from divine non-human authorship.
Im pretty sure it's both. See:
>>16427246
>Regardless it is a masterpiece of literature even if you take it as spiritual science fiction, but if it actually is what it claims to be then the implications are profound.
Agreed. It's definitely a very interesting read.

[Anonymous No.16427633]

>>16427598
I heard that it denies that Jesus is part of the Trinity, instead it is something called the "Eternal Son"

[Anonymous No.16427641]

ok im looking into this urantia book, but also it was mentioned above, the RA material? whats the deal with that?

do i get those five RA books as well?

[Anonymous No.16427726]

https://bigbluebook.org/

[Anonymous No.16427744]

>>16426057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wf21UbsdJ4

[Anonymous No.16427785]

those urantia threads were actually pretty comfy

[Anonymous No.16427794]

>>16427633
The bible itself never clearly canonized the true meaning of trinity. Hence why different sects of Christianity still argue about it to this day. This is the only real problem I have with Christians. Too many of them assume the following:
>my Bible is the only accurate translation
>my Bible is perfect, complete, and infallible
>my interpretations of my Bible are the only correct interpretations
This shit almost makes atheists seem intelligent by comparison. If Christianity really is some ultimate truth and the only way to salvation, then no shit it would be suppressed and censored, especially when the powers that exist have had 2000 fucking years to do so. People make mistakes. People lie. Many details are lost in translation, both intentional and unintentional. I can list hundreds of significant mistakes most Christians aren't aware of at all. For the record, I do believe Christ existed and was who and what he said he was. But modern bibles are a fucking train wreck.

[Anonymous No.16427799]

>>16427641
It's free here:
https://www.lawofone.info/

[Anonymous No.16427830]

>>16427799
thanks fren

[Anonymous No.16428281]

The only thing holding me back (from buying or reading) is the title. Similar to the book of mormon.

[Anonymous No.16428338]

>>16428281
Just think of it as a spiritual fantasy/science fiction book that has the possibility of being true.

[Anonymous No.16428383]

>>16427794
Urantia touches upon this here and there

195:10.11.Christianity is seriously confronted with the doom embodied in one of its own slogans: "A house divided against itself cannot stand." The non-Christian world will hardly capitulate to a sect-divided Christendom. The living Jesus is the only hope of a possible unification of Christianity. The true church—the Jesus brotherhood—is invisible, spiritual, and is characterized by unity, not necessarily by uniformity. Uniformity is the earmark of the physical world of mechanistic nature. Spiritual unity is the fruit of faith union with the living Jesus. The visible church should refuse longer to handicap the progress of the invisible and spiritual brotherhood of the kingdom of God. And this brotherhood is destined to become a living organism in contrast to an institutionalized social organization. It may well utilize such social organizations, but it must not be supplanted by them.

195:10.12.But the Christianity of even the twentieth century must not be despised. It is the product of the combined moral genius of the God-knowing men of many races during many ages, and it has truly been one of the greatest powers for good on earth, and therefore no man should lightly regard it, notwithstanding its inherent and acquired defects. Christianity still contrives to move the minds of reflective men with mighty moral emotions.

195:10.13.But there is no excuse for the involvement of the church in commerce and politics; such unholy alliances are a flagrant betrayal of the Master. And the genuine lovers of truth will be slow to forget that this powerful institutionalized church has often dared to smother newborn faith and persecute truth bearers who chanced to appear in unorthodox raiment.

[Anonymous No.16428456]

>>16427794
How then would it account for the divinity of Christ?

[Anonymous No.16428518]

>>16428338
Nah I won't "muh true name of Earf is Urantia" sounds like retarded grandma stuff. Sorta like "muh true name of God is Allah and he only speaks arabic haha." Anyway, all we need is the Holy Bible for this genre. Any of the larps which tried to replicate it are cringe.

If you'd called it something based on actual language (the book of terra, gaia, anything) or just "the book of earth" it would be much less cringe.

[Anonymous No.16428571]

>>16428518
>retarded grandma stuff
Superficial objection; its a pleb filter as it were.

88:2.6.Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God's words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses' very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

88:2.7.In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

[Anonymous No.16428617]

>>16426057
If you subscribe to the Edgar Cayce authorship hypothesis, the work of the ace psychic medium of the 20th century, America's Nostradamus of sorts

[Anonymous No.16428867]

>>16428383
>The true church—the Jesus brotherhood—is invisible, spiritual, and is characterized by unity
I'm so glad you all found each other

[Anonymous No.16428928]

>>16428571
copy-pasting meme terms makes you an edgelord coomer, wow!

Perhaps you should focus on making your arguments watertight. Or, given they're nowhere near that, and you totally tripped over that anon's claims of muh god by replying no, MUH GOD, maybe you want to aim for more-watertight-than-the-sieve-they-currently-are at first.

[Anonymous No.16429182]

>>16428928
Of course its going to trigger those with a holy book fetish.
I dont think the Urantia book is infallible and neither does it claim to be.
I also dont think the book is 'the only one you need' and it also does not claim so.

>But no revelation short of the attainment of the Universal Father can ever be complete. All other celestial ministrations are no more than partial, transient, and practically adapted to local conditions in time and space.

[Anonymous No.16429272]

>>16429182
>>But no revelation short of the attainment of the Universal Father can ever be complete. All other celestial ministrations are no more than partial, transient, and practically adapted to local conditions in time and space.
And this is exactly why Zoroastrianism simplified the older Vedic tradition, and why the birth of Christ was met by "wise men" (Magi in the original texts, aka Zoroastrian priest) from the "east" (Iran). Revelations of lesser "gods" can still help one make progress on their path, but ultimately there is only one "god" at the end(or beginning) of nature's hierarchy.

[Anonymous No.16430295]

>>16429272
Yes

- (5:4.2) The great and immediate service of true religion is the establishment of an enduring unity in human experience, a lasting peace and a profound assurance. With primitive man, even polytheism is a relative unification of the evolving concept of Deity; polytheism is monotheism in the making. Sooner or later, God is destined to be comprehended as the reality of values, the substance of meanings, and the life of truth.
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- (5:4.9) The concept of a semihuman and jealous God is an inevitable transition between polytheism and sublime monotheism. An exalted anthropomorphism is the highest attainment level of purely evolutionary religion. Christianity has elevated the concept of anthropomorphism from the ideal of the human to the transcendent and divine concept of the person of the glorified Christ. And this is the highest anthropomorphism that man can ever conceive.

[Anonymous No.16430328]

>>16427246
>I'm fairly confident that it is genuine channeled material,

How come? Doesnt the 7th Day Adventist connection and bunk science point to it being more a work of imagination (albeit well meaning?) I have a hard time telling the difference between a illegitimate channelling and a channelling by beings who would give information that would make it look like something illegitimate.

[Anonymous No.16430404]

Shill thread

[Anonymous No.16430416]

>>16430404
>shilling
>a book that was written anonymously and published in the 50s

[Anonymous No.16430641]

Does the book work well with the Gnostic texts or is it another beast altogether?

[Anonymous No.16430740]

>>16430641
>Curiously, certain ideas of the ancient Gnostics prefigure, at least in mythopoetic form, some of the core teachings of The Urantia Book. It is not entirely unfair when fundamentalist Christians denounce the Urantia Revelation as being “gnostic.”
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/spiritualitychannelseries/2016/12/ancient-gnostics-revelations-urantia-book/

[Anonymous No.16430764]

>>16430295
Damn I need to start reading that book again. Well said, and surprisingly Jungian.
>>16430641
True gnosticism doesn't have a single canon or dogma, and doesn't limit itself to a perceived canon. There are Muslim gnostics and Jewish gnostics too. The Brahman path of Hinduism is also arguably gnostic. Gnosticism is simply the pursuit of knowing truth, which is just another way of seeking god. Read it and decide for yourself if it resonates with you as truth. It's a fantastic read, even if it's all fake.

[Anonymous No.16430777]

>>16430764
>It's a fantastic read, even if it's all fake.
When does it start to get interesting? The first part was extremely dull and just naming categories and subcategories and Im saying that as someone who has read the book of mormon.

[Anonymous No.16430784]

>>16430777
I've only flipped through it and read parts that caught my attention so far, I haven't attempted to read it cover to cover yet. Maybe start with the life of Christ if you're coming from a gnostic Christian perspective.

[Anonymous No.16430808]

>>16430777
For me this part is excellent

101:7.2.A philosophy of religion evolves out of a basic growth of ideas plus experimental living as both are modified by the tendency to imitate associates. The soundness of philosophic conclusions depends on keen, honest, and discriminating thinking in connection with sensitivity to meanings and accuracy of evaluation. Moral cowards never achieve high planes of philosophic thinking; it requires courage to invade new levels of experience and to attempt the exploration of unknown realms of intellectual living.

101:7.3.Presently new systems of values come into existence; new formulations of principles and standards are achieved; habits and ideals are reshaped; some idea of a personal God is attained, followed by enlarging concepts of relationship thereto.

[Anonymous No.16430869]

>>16430808
>>16430784
Thanks for that Anon I might give those sections a look and not judge it soley on that first part

[Anonymous No.16431292]

>>16426057
read Cloud of Unknowing instead

[Anonymous No.16431464]

>the structure of The Urantia Book is a classic structure used in Christian theological writing known as a systematic theology
>There are four primary elements in a classic systematic theology. They are theology, anthropology, eschatology, and Christology.
https://urantianow.com/the-urantia-book-and-systematic-theology/