/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16402228]

Recommend me a book from here to convince me I should bother with the Greeks meme

[Anonymous No.16402240]

It's the source of Western philosophy and literature, that's all the convincing you need

[Anonymous No.16402242]

>>16402228
You're supposed to read it in order.

[Anonymous No.16402265]

>>16402228
This chart is shitty.

>homer before hesiod
>menander before Aristophanes
>attic comedy
>a history of my snoozefest
>meme publisher for the tragedies
>actually reading Euclid
>no cynic philosophy

[Anonymous No.16402402]

>>16402265
This post is shitty.

>>homer before hesiod
May as well not start with the worst Greek writer
>>menander before Aristophanes
I don't think it's meant to be chronological, it's probably like that to make room for tragedy to take a whole row. You shouldn't read Aristophanes before the tragedians
>>attic comedy
?
>>a history of my snoozefest
Herodotus and Thucydides are both very important to read
>>meme publisher for the tragedies
It's Lattimore and Greene...
>>actually reading Euclid
One should read Archimedes too
>>no cynic philosophy
What fragments do we have from it?

[Anonymous No.16402479]

>>16402402
>May as well not start with the worst Greek writer
Theogony can be read in an hour and gives you a quick grounding in the genealogy of the gods.

>I don't think it's meant to be chronological, it's probably like that to make room for tragedy to take a whole row. You shouldn't read Aristophanes before the tragedians
You're right about tragedy before comedy; I thought it was otherwise mostly in chronological order, but have just noticed Euripides before Sophocles so now I'm all over the place.

>Herodotus and Thucydides are both very important to read
Of course. But I was referring to Xenophon's history, which isn't necessary and is, candidly, even harder to read than his second-rate dialogues.

>It's Lattimore and Greene...
Eh okay. The editions look like dogshit though

>One should read Archimedes too
Why? For what purpose, anon? This is /lit/ not /sci/

>What fragments do we have from it?
Nothing firsthand, but secondhand accounts and popular apophthegms; lots of Diogenes Laertiuse etc.. Oxford World Classics has a decent compilation. It's not crucial but I think it's a nice bridge between socrates and the stoics.

[Anonymous No.16402530]

this whole thread is why no-one likes classicists

[Anonymous No.16402629]

>>16402479
>Theogony can be read in an hour and gives you a quick grounding in the genealogy of the gods.
Most of it is irrelevant to Homer's myth because he mostly talks about Olympians, not primordial and first-generation gods. You can just Google names anyway, but yeah I personally do think it's better to read Theogony before Homer. The chart looks better with Iliad first though cause it's the granddaddy of Greek literature.
>was referring to Xenophon's history, which isn't necessary
I guess the author was trying to be comprehensive. It'd be weird to exclude it
>Why? For what purpose, anon? This is /lit/ not /sci/
I'm assuming people are interested in the history of ideas, and Archimedes is a monumental figure in that regard:
>Galileo praised Archimedes many times, and referred to him as a "superhuman."[78] Leibniz said "He who understands Archimedes and Apollonius will admire less the achievements of the foremost men of later times.
>Diogenes Laertius
Yeah I assume he would've been included if he wasn't born in the 3rd century CE

[Anonymous No.16402938]

>>16402530
why

[Anonymous No.16403147]

>>16402938
me to dum-dum to understand. Me read "white fragility" instead.

[Anonymous No.16403453]

>>16403147
don't people read homer in high school

[Anonymous No.16403522]

>>16403453
Unfortunately, that isn't always the case anymore
T. "Read" the Odyssey (by that I mean we only read a few passages from it and watched an animated film which depicted Odysseus' adventures) in freshman year of high school

I read the Iliad and the Odyssey by choice during my senior year.

[Anonymous No.16403603]

>>16403453
No but we watched that Brad Pitt movie Troy 2 or 3 times does that count

[Anonymous No.16403643]

I thought this was the list.
What’s the best?

[Anonymous No.16403656]

[Anonymous No.16403874]

>>16403643
>>16403656
OP's much better desu

[Anonymous No.16403911]

>>16402228
>>16403643
>>16403656
save as .png dummies, I'm tired of great infographics ruined by scrambled decay

[Anonymous No.16403921]

>>16403911
redpill me on scramble decay, should phone fags an hero?

[Anonymous No.16403923]

>>16403911
That's not how computers work faggoot, there's no compression when you upload on 4channel

[Anonymous No.16403932]

>>16403921
It's not a technical term, the point is that .jpg saves space by compressing the image and .png does not compress at all. Save the same detailed picture as .jpg a dozen times and you'll see what I mean.

[Anonymous No.16403935]

>>16403923
there's compression when you save and you can tell when an infographic had a chain of saves by a bunch of clueless anons dumbass

[Anonymous No.16404119]

skip homer, skips the plays and poetry, read plato and aristotle (optional: herodotus and the presocratics) then move onto the romans

[Anonymous No.16404168]

>>16402265
Homer is older than Hesiod

[Anonymous No.16404207]

>>16402228
Could anyone who's read the lyric poetry share their opinions on it

[Anonymous No.16404300]

>>16403935
>there's compression when you save
No there isn't retard lmao it's just a binary file written to disk

[Anonymous No.16404309]

>>16404168
How do you know that?
>>16404207
I did and iI loved it. Sappho and Antilochos were genuinely talented poets, and the others were either interesting or funny, but that may also be because I like reading anything from Ancient Greece.

[Anonymous No.16404453]

is hippocrates worth reading?

[Anonymous No.16404502]

>>16404207
Pindar is based. If you skip him you're ngmi.

[Anonymous No.16404515]

>>16403643
This one contains an Iliad commentary made by a 20th century Jewish communist woman, so it goes straight into the trash
>>16403656
This one starts with a subpar secondary source on myths instead of starting with Homer or Hesiod so it goes into the trash as well
>>16402228
This one is correct to focus on primary sources and reading complete works not just 2 dialogues and 3 plays

[Anonymous No.16404525]

>>16404515
>Jewish communist woman
based

[Anonymous No.16404856]

>>16402228
>not Hobbes' translation of Thucydides
ngmi

[Anonymous No.16404874]

>>16404856

[Anonymous No.16406127]

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