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Who is, in your opinion, the greatest personification of Nietzsche's 'Übermensch' ideal? Name some examples from your fields of interest.

>> No.16396625

Me.

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>>16396620

>> No.16396640

>>16396625
desu

>> No.16396642
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16396642

Pippi.
https://www.confero.ep.liu.se/issues/2016/v4/i1/160111/confero16v4i1_160111.pdf

For the actual übermensch to come we must first prepare a sustained world that would hold them.

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>> No.16396697

>>16396620
uncle addy

>> No.16396723

>>16396620
Nausicaa from Nausicaa of the valley of the wind

>> No.16396775
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16396775

Without a doubt unironically Ted Kaczynski.

>> No.16396788

>>16396620
Jesus Christ **Christian, all too christian**

>> No.16396789

>>16396620
icycalm

>understands Nietzsche best
>understands the 20th and 21st centuries best
>represents the zeitgeist better than anyone (including stylistically)
>dominates the cultural epoch better than anyone
>only contributor to 21st century art theory and undoubtedly will dominate the whole of it
>practices what he teaches

>> No.16396967

>>16396620
Belle delphine

>> No.16397231

Nick Land

>> No.16398608

>>16396620

In no particular order:

Richard Burton
Julius Caesar
Napoleon
Diogenes
Albert Camus
Alfred Jarry
Al-Ma'arri
Genghis Khan
Nikola Tesla
Picasso

I don't necessarily see the Übermensch quality as an ideal, however

>> No.16398641

>>16396642
>https://www.confero.ep.liu.se/issues/2016/v4/i1/160111/confero16v4i1_160111.pdf
This is the most cringe and stupid thing I ever read. I want to dismember whoever wrote such stupidity.

>> No.16398665

>>16396620
Modern man

>> No.16399181

Me desu

>> No.16399221

>>16396620
Obama and Joe Sniffem Biden

>> No.16399246

>>16396620
Elliot Rodger

>> No.16399257

>>16396625
this.

>> No.16399292

>>16396620
Cesare Borgia before he got got

>> No.16399343
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>>16396620
A PRUSSIAN KING

>> No.16399536

>>16399343
No finally this guy is a little bitch who didn't like is father Wilhelm I and Otto Von Bismarck. He had liberal idea and wanted to reform the Prussian kingdom and German Empire. Typical basedboyist beta bitch.

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>>16396620
Donald John Trump

>> No.16399587

>>16396620
Prophet Muhammed (PBUH)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-Sternberg

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>>16399587
alhamdhulillah

>> No.16399805

>>16399587
Inshallah

>> No.16399829
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16399829

Pippi Longstocking

>> No.16399835

Leibniz, goethe

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>>16396620

>> No.16399891
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16399891

This guy >>16396620 and maybe this guy >>16399838 , and also probably Goethe.

>> No.16399895

No one.

>> No.16400087

>>16396620
A throwback and failure. As close as a nineteenth century man could get, I suppose. Max Stirner is a better example
>>16396636
Creative and some other attributes, but no.
>>16396650
Why? Didn’t die in a war?
>>16396697
Who?
>>16396723
Nice.
>>16396775
No. Sorry.
>>16396788
No.
>>16396789
Video game theory?
>>16396967
Mmm. Not quite, no.
>>16397231
No.
>>16398608
Like Napoleon, as near as their time permits, but not nearly there.
>>16398641
You forgot to explain why. Any little thing.
>>16399221
No.
>>16399246
Opposite of Übermensch
>>16399257
Who is he?
>>16399563
Naw.
>>16399587
No. No schizophrenics.
>>16399711
Why do people misunderstand what it is Nietzsche was getting at?
>>16399829
AGREED.
>>16399891
Nietzsche said he was close to, but not it
>>16399895
Agreed. Only a fictional character could show what an Übermensch could be like.

But, as you all know, liberals and their schizoid simp bootlickers are marching us over cliff like so many lemmings and there doesn’t seem to be even a faint chance for such an evolutionary step

>> No.16400263

>>16400087
STOP MASS REPLYING YOU FUCKING FAGGOT NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK YOU BUTTERFLY TRIPFAG FUCK I HATE YOU I HATE SEEING YOU ON THIS FUCKING BOARD POISONING IT WITH YOUR NONSENSE FUCK OFF AND DIE

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>>16400263
First time.
If no one cares, how come you replied?

>NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK
or what Nietzsche thinks. It’s irksome.

>> No.16400282

>>16400275
i also don't like nietzche but you are pretentious off the charts

>> No.16400285

>>16400275
>>NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK
>or what Nietzsche thinks. It’s irksome.
ewwww leave behinf all tout of those m4les like its disguntin s

>> No.16400343

>>16400087
assuming you get a say in how the evolutionary feet march. how self-important.

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>>16396620
By far it's Augustus. Thrust into politics as a teenager, competes and wins against the far more experienced and established Marc Antony, wins several civil wars, and then reorganises the previously small-e Roman empire into a properly imperial state, goes on the die of old age, and his empire survives for more than a millenium after him. The only person who even comes close is Alexander, and he had the groundwork for his conquests laid out by his father and his state immediately fell apart on his death.

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>>16396620
Walter White from breaking bad.
The man was essentially the last man: sheep, defeated, passive, without will or passion to live (hence his indifference to his cancer diagnosis).
Upon entering the meth business, initially reluctantly and to provide for his family, he transforms into who he really is -- and apologizes to no one as he fully embraces his true persona (in this case it happened to be "evil" by most out standards). Not only that, and essentially creating his own morals (however brutal), but what resonated most is how he lived more in 2 years than he had in the previous 50 years of his life. What's more is he made a legend of himself, and lived up to his genius -- however twisted it may have been. And as he died in the place he loved the most -- the meth lab -- one could see him feeling no regrets as he died happily and entirely loving his fate, what he had done, and who he had become.

>> No.16400390

>>16400345
*thrust into politics with Caesar's estate and posthumous endorsement
Agreed though

>> No.16400394

>>16400345
Mmmmm, was just about to enter Alexander into the running for the Mr. Übermensch pagent. Here is my distinction, and one that shall separate Alexander from Augustus, or any other Roman warlord, deistic sycophant, throne-hound, etc.., The Übermensch transcends the natural intuitions and motives of Man. Alexander acted not for King and Country, nor for preservation or the vanities of expansion and repopulation of the self, but he acted with the noblest of all virtues: Enlightenment. Man, the body vis-a-vis with the Universe. To a much smaller scale, mind you, but essentially a widening of the horizon of Man and a breakage of dam of the heavens, allowing the waters of Ocean to spill across the earth.

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>>16400087
You will rue the day you besmirched Allah's last prophet, infidel.

>> No.16400556

>>16400387
Criminals are not Ubermensch you fucking moron

>> No.16400593

>>16400390
He did have Caesar's legacy, but I don't think it's possible to achieve anything remotely approaching his accomplishments without some kind of leg up at the start. And there's dozens more counterexamples of people who start out in similar positions and spectacularly fuck it up (Crassus or Heliogabalus come to mind, for instance)

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isnt it obvious?

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>> No.16401795

>>16400087
>why do people misunderstand Nietzsche
>lists Stirner as an example of Ubermensch
Lol

>> No.16401798

>>16400387
>fully embraces his true persona
>true
>persona
Man, you have some reading to do. Didn't read the rest. Persona cannot, by definition, be true.

>> No.16401799

>>16401783
>shit poet
>shit lyricist
>influence overrated
I don't know man, the only thing that redeems him is his nice and distinctive voice

>> No.16401810

>>16396620

Thomas Jefferson, Leon Trotsky, Mustafa Ataturk, Mussolini.

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>> No.16401934

>>16400087
Nobody gives a hovering fuck what you think about their answers you fucking tranny faggot butterfly off yourself already stupid namefag your life is so pathetic you have to create a persona in some anonymous literature forum

>> No.16402835

>>16400087
trying to maintain an identity and mass-replying for attention on an anonymous Bhutanese cloth dispensary seems like the least Übermensch thing a living being could possibly do with their time

>> No.16402852

>>16400087
Do you stop at no ends for attention?

>> No.16402864

>>16401795
Not what I wrote

The right answer is still >>16399895

>> No.16402904

>>16400087
Butterfly is the real uberwomensch, but only if (s)he shows feet.

>> No.16402926
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>>16402904
Übermensch is gender neutral. “Over-person”

>> No.16402939

>>16402926
I know, I just wanted to make that joke.

>> No.16402945

>>16402939
Okay.

>> No.16402985

>>16400087
>Video game theory?
Art theory.

>> No.16402998

>>16402904
>>16402939
>>16402945
lol he really just wanted a picture of your feet

>> No.16403078

>>16402926
Fuck. She's perfect.

>> No.16404015

>>16401810
atatürk with all he did and thought does come pretty close

>> No.16404028

>>16396620
Stendhal.

>> No.16404118

>>16402926
>pic
holy shit that is a perfect woman

>> No.16404132

Bob Dylan

>> No.16404136

>>16402835
Kek, so true