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16395916 No.16395916 [Reply] [Original]

What are your thoughts on philosophy as an academic field? Is it worth attending university for it or should people just keep it as a hobby they study in their free time?

>> No.16395933

maybe

>> No.16395934

>>16395916
Depends on your country, in Australia "NO", in England likely yes. Because knowing that you've read and understood Kant is a pretty good test of your intelligence and capability.

Generally and for most people I would recommend just doing it yourself though.

>> No.16395958

i would guess they would focus way too much on contemporary philosophers with little emphasis on the classics if not outright dismiss them.
It's probably a circlejerking field

>> No.16395967

>>16395934
How come you say no for australia specifically?

>> No.16396000

>>16395967
It's just an example, because no one in Australia is going to give a damn about you studying Kant or Hegel or any worthwhile philosopher, but then they don't care about their own Analytics anyway.

>> No.16396019

>>16396000
I personally don't care for people just based on what they are studying, if someone told me they were in commerce or something it makes no difference to me. Regardless of country, I'm just asking if studying philosophy is a worthwhile endeavor or if you should just keep it to yourself and pursue something else.

>> No.16396048

>>16396000
>Who're you studying, mate?
>Some Kant.

>> No.16396054

>>16396019
Well normally one wants to go to university with the idea that whatever area you go in, it's economically plausible to be sustained from it. For example if a business needs to hire someone I'm pretty sure they're going to choose the economics and STEM major over philosophy.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to study philosophy or similar subjects, but it's all dependent on your life. If you purely want to know if you will enjoy the philosophy class and get something important out of it, then likely yes, but it's also likely not going to be economic.

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>>16396048

>> No.16396067

It's only worth it if you're both willing to sacrifice a decade of your life for a career that might or might not pay off and you have enough money to afford living and paying for your bachelor's + master's + PhD.
>>16395958
All philosophy courses have to go through the classics in their history of philosophy classes and there's still people writing papers about Plato in philosophy departments, but i guess if you only care about classical antiquity then you're better off studying classical philology.

>> No.16396188

>>16395958
Why in the world would you even guess that? It's unbelievably untrue.

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>>16395958
never heard of a philosophy degree that doesn't focus on the greeks at least for the first year

>> No.16396205

>>16395916
History of philosophy is included in every single curriculum, but it is being rapidly marginalized. Don't expect Plato, Aristotle and Kant to be in the spotlight during your undergraduate years. You will be expected to read some excerpts here and there combined with secondary literature, but for the most part the undergraduate is forced to slog through countless bizarrely technical papers written by joe nobody. It is a soul crushing experience. If you love actual philosophy and not the depressing contemporary pseudo scientific Anglo "philosophy", you'll be better off reading on your own.

T. disillusioned final year undergrad

>> No.16396771

>>16396205
Where did you study? And what are your plans after you get your masters/phd?

>> No.16396785

>>16395916
absolutely not.

There is so much B.S. in philosophy, that it's just not worth your precious time to wade through all the BS to retrieve whatever true or helpful insights there are.

Much better to learn History or PoliSci or Economics. But the best is probably History as a core, with some PoliSci and economics and anthropology to round out, then some good mathematics classes to help with clear thinking.

>> No.16397667

>>16396771
Good uni in the EU, won't say anything else since I suspect at least one of my colleagues is a /lit/izen. Will apply for masters here and try to aim really high regarding my phd. I always wanted to teach, ideally at uni level but highschool wouldn't be a nightmare either.

>> No.16397680

>>16395916
>What are your thoughts on philosophy as an academic field?
aren't there famously like 4 paying jobs for this

>> No.16397711

I already have a degree in another area, so I'm not going to university again.

How badly is the woke infection in philosophy? Is it invading coursework or do they keep coursework and activism separated?

>> No.16397716

>>16397680
Mate there's so much busywork today it is insane. Nepotism is the way to go and even without connections a phil grad can realistically expect some kind of a secure job within the public sector.

>> No.16397747

>>16397716
Imagine not inheriting wealth and not being high off ur ass while dumping fat nutz in high end escorts LMFAO

>> No.16397752

>>16396048
underrated

>> No.16397760

>>16396205
depends on the uni doesn't it? Some German unis lean heavily into the continental side and Ancient philosophy.

>> No.16397779

>>16395916
No

>> No.16397827

>>16395958
My school requires ancient greek philosophy and modern philosophy.

>> No.16397834

>>16397747
Imagine larping. (You don't have to.)

>> No.16399032

Depends on your country and your end game. If you don't have one you should avoid this field