/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16394451]

I have failed you :(

[Anonymous No.16394525]

>>16394451
>look guys, I'm anarching!

[Anonymous No.16394595]

>>16394451
who's this incel?

[Anonymous No.16394599]

>>16394525
Lol @ Heidegger trying to stifle a chuckle.

[Anonymous No.16394636]

>>16394599
Nah he's just always happy, look at how cute he is.

[Anonymous No.16394650]

Why is some failed one hit wonder novelist used in philosophical discussions on lit?

he literally just wrote a novel where he reminisced about his war. he's a soldier with no education lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.16394654]

>>16394650
>Junger
>one hit novelist
Shit up pseud, you barely know who he is.

[Anonymous No.16394667]

>>16394654
I dont think you know what pseud means. Youre acting like a pseud here. Im natural. This dude is known because of a war memoir. Nothing else.

[Anonymous No.16394719]

>>16394667
You're retarded, he was friends with both Schmitt and Heidegger and both of them found his philosophy interesting, which he you of course know, wrote many books about and inspired by. Have you not seen the chart with all his books?

[Anonymous No.16394733]

>>16394650
poor bait

[Anonymous No.16394752]

>>16394719
>>16394733
Ernst Jünger ([ɛʁnst ˈjʏŋɐ]; 29 March 1895 – 17 February 1998) was a highly decorated German soldier, author, and entomologist who became publicly known for his World War I memoir Storm of Steel.

The son of a successful businessman and chemist, Jünger rebelled against an affluent upbringing and sought adventure in the Wandervogel, before running away to briefly serve in the French Foreign Legion, an illegal act. Because he escaped prosecution in Germany due to his father's efforts, Jünger was able to enlist in the German Army on the outbreak of war. During an ill-fated offensive in 1918 Jünger's World War I career ended with the last and most serious of his many woundings, and he was awarded the Pour le Mérite, a rare decoration for one of his rank.

In the aftermath of World War II, Jünger was treated with some suspicion as a possible fellow traveller of the Nazis. By the latter stages of the Cold War, his unorthodox writings about the impact of materialism in modern society were widely seen as conservative rather than radical nationalist, and his philosophical works came to be highly regarded in mainstream German circles. Jünger ended life as an honoured establishment figure, although critics continued to charge him with the glorification of war as a transcendental experience.


>"philosopher" or "philosophy" not used even 1 (ONE) time in the lead
pathetic lmao

[Anonymous No.16394759]

>>16394752
What ooks of him would you recommend especially on the topic of materialism?

[Anonymous No.16394765]

>>16394752
>>"philosopher" or "philosophy" not used even 1 (ONE) time in the lead
>pathetic lmao
Imagine referring to wikipedia or mass-opinion even as the final arbiter of the value or thought of a man. Nevertheless even in the at his philosophy is mentioned, how retarded are you?

What do you think this is?
>In the aftermath of World War II, Jünger was treated with some suspicion as a possible fellow traveller of the Nazis. By the latter stages of the Cold War, his unorthodox writings about the impact of materialism in modern society were widely seen as conservative rather than radical nationalist, and his philosophical works came to be highly regarded in mainstream German circles. Jünger ended life as an honoured establishment figure, although critics continued to charge him with the glorification of war as a transcendental experience.

It is just that his war memoir's and story's are the most famous works and part of his life.

[Anonymous No.16394782]

>>16394765
>Nevertheless even in the at his philosophy is mentioned
On Dostoyevsky's page too. Does this make Dostoyevsky a philosopher?

Junger was just a fiction writer, he wrote novels and novellas that had some philosophical undertones because he read lots of Nietzsche as an angsty youngster. Doesnt change the fact that hes known from just 1 novel and nothing else, and this makes me conclude that he's overhyped on /lit/

[Anonymous No.16394793]

>>16394782
>Doesnt change the fact that hes known from just 1 novel
The absolute state of the people posting here.

[Anonymous No.16394797]

>>16394793
Well, he is. In fact, he's mostly unknown, actually. But if someone might know him, he'll just recognize him from Storm of Steel. Nothing else. His philosophy is boring and derivative. His experiences were more interesting than his thoughts - which werent even his, but learned from reading others.

[Anonymous No.16394803]

>>16394782
>Doesnt change the fact that hes known from just 1 novel
Not the guy you're replying too but that's just plain wrong, On the marble cliffs is also very well known, his essays are published in collections which you will find in the philosophy section of your bookstore, same goes for his correspondence. Your debate about the term "philosopher" is pretty useless. His importance is obviously inflated by /lit/ but he's still a major figure of 20th century literature (but the same could be said of Pynchon, DFW and half the writers discussed here).

[Anonymous No.16394817]

>>16394752
>Jünger ended life as an honoured establishment figure

Only in France. In Germany he was considered radioacftive by many.

[Anonymous No.16394826]

>>16394797
You don't know any more of his works, because you're not speaking german and therefore neither get the cultural context nor his other works wich are very well known to any literate non-pleb person in germany.

[Anonymous No.16394827]

>>16394803
>On the marble cliffs is also very well known
It's so very well known that on wikipedia only 3 languages aside from german cover it, and the English page only has 4 paragraphs to say about the book in total.

[Anonymous No.16394831]

>>16394826
If most of an author's works aren't translated to human speak (English) yet, he's just not that good anon ;_;

[Anonymous No.16394838]

I hope all of the USA will be wiped out

[Anonymous No.16394847]

>>16394831
English is one of the easiest languages, by this alone greather thoughts will not be able to be expressed by them. Language and intellect go hand in hand. Anglos thinking they are the best due to an intellectual inability to comprehend their betters are a curse on this world.

[Anonymous No.16394867]

>>16394847
>by this alone greather thoughts will not be able to be expressed by them
English literature is the most superior literature that exists, and the greatest thoughts that have been conveyed have been conveyed through English first.

France has no Shakespeare. Germany has no Shakespeare. France has no Milton, or Blake. Germany doesnt either. France has no Chaucher, neither does Germany. France has no Pope, no Byron, no Whitman, no Faulkner, no Joyce, no Steinbeck, no Faulkner, no nothing. Neither does Germany.

Anglos are superior.

[Anonymous No.16394870]

>>16394827
I really don't care about your mediocre culture which can only cout on wikipedia articles, not my fault that you were raised by the crowd that rules the world.

[Anonymous No.16394890]

>>16394782
>On Dostoyevsky's page too. Does this make Dostoyevsky a philosopher?
In the true sense yes, but in a living one no--; But that is something Junger is in both the true and lived sense because he wrote purely philosophical works and not alone fiction.

[Anonymous No.16394897]

>>16394867
>greatest thoughts
>Shakespeare and a bunch of other sissy novelists
Even Geothe could dickslap your pathetic list while Schubert is liedering in the background, let alone real thinkers like Kant or Heidegger. The anglo is at his best an entertainer, swallow but he makes you smirk. To speak of superiour thought is as if to expect is laughable. But don't let reality shatter your delusions.

[Anonymous No.16394903]

>>16394525
>hideous manlet
>becomes the greatest philosopher of the 20th century
>fucks Hannah Arendt
>friends with Junger
>happy life
how did he do it bros?

[Anonymous No.16394909]

>>16394650
Have you looked at what is popular philosophy today?
The left watches trannies on youtube and the right has their version on twitter. Being popular today is a mark of death.

[Anonymous No.16394912]

>>16394752
>quoting wikipedia
lmao the absolute state of /lit/, read Junger's "Worker - Dominion and Form", he was a very accomplished philosopher in addition to being a great writer

[Anonymous No.16394917]

>>16394903
He was chad. And don't forget friends with Schmitt too.

[Anonymous No.16394931]

>>16394897
>Goethe
only German author of note
>Heidegger
pathetically simplistic and obvious thoughts obscured by complex language

[Anonymous No.16394934]

>>16394870
>>16394912
Well, youre saying that something is well known. Im showing you that it is not the case, that its not well known. And youre all like
>i dont care that its not well known! the crowd doesnt matter!
are all germans such insecure autists?

[Anonymous No.16394965]

>>16394934
I'm French. Alright let be me more clear: it is well-known amongst well-read people. Which makes it enough to make Jünger not someone who wrote one famous book and that is all. Death on credit, Celine's second most famous book, has only wikipedia pages in 6 languages, does that make Celine the guy who only wrote Journey to the end of the night? Obviously not. Exit the king, a play by Ionesco has wikipedia pages in eight languages. Does this makes this play more famous or influential than Death on credit? Absolutely not. One of the most translated wiki page is about Corbyn Bleu a shitty Z-tier actor. Make of that what you will.

[Anonymous No.16394990]

>>16394965
Dont compare Junger to Celine please. Journey to the end of the night is an iconic book, while storm of steel, looking at literature from a broad perspective, is a minor work.

[Anonymous No.16395098]

>>16394990
I'm afraid I'll do as I please anon. Also you missed the point about Celine and Junger not being one-book authors. Yes, Celine is overall more important than Jünger from a literary standpoint, but you should know than Storm of steel if pretty far from being Junger's best book (from my pov).

[Anonymous No.16396052]

>>16394650
So who do you read? Who is the philosopher with the answers?

[Anonymous No.16397366]

>>16394909
This. Everyone today only cares about plebshiand Junger didnt write for plebs

[Anonymous No.16397371]

>>16394903
Junger was a manlet too. Most great men are.

[Anonymous No.16397384]

>>16394650
Jünger is widely known outside of /lit/ and wrote some incredible essays like On Pain and The Forest Passage.

[Anonymous No.16397433]

>>16394650
I guess you are just pretending...

[Anonymous No.16397768]

>>16394451
ayyy why does Christian Lindner look so weird on this pic

[Anonymous No.16398102]

Junger answered many of the great questions of the modern period, or at least came closer than anyone else to answering these questions in a manner equal to the power of the ancient works. He was also well aware that his greatest works were left mostly unread.
Why was this? The simple answer is that we no longer think about questions in such a way as the ancients. Note how there are no true followers of Platon even though he is still regarded as the greatest thinker. The presocratics are little more than a curiosity or at best a means to pick up symbols to tinker with and form into a technical concept. Even readers who appreciate Junger have difficulty understanding his thought.
In any case what see in academia is little more than a great garbage pile. There is no law but the student turning against the teacher, if only to create something new. This is a catastrophe but in the end all that will remain is works of vitality. The situation should be understood as a great library fire in our own time, what will survive are those works capable of enduring, or being rescued from, the destructive acts of the age.
This is partly the role of lit, the supposedly last place on the internet to hold free intellectual discussion. You see memes and lesser known authors here because of the vitality of free intellectualism set against the corpse that is academia. This does mean that all of the memes are true, however the general spirit is correct in the great search for something that has survived the catastrophe. One waits for a dog to wander into the library of babel, or simply appear after it has burned down.

[Anonymous No.16398228]

>>16398102
One may ask if it was a failure in that he could not write these works in a manner that would appeal to a wider audience. Such a thing is not possible, you cannot teach a man the spirit that is being driven out of him, or as Schmitt said, one cannot write against that which proscribes.
The paradox of our time is that one must write that which has the slightest chance of survival, of enduring the great sea of destruction that followed the creation of the printing press. Great care is no longer asked of intellectuals, and ironically the law of printing only sustains the crisis of letters, stripping away the ink from old books is no longer an act of desecration, weighing the necessity of one's own ideas against the forgotten book in the library it is the very process of thought in our time, that which has replaced the great poetic contests of the ancient world.

[Anonymous No.16398771]

>>16394667
His best book is "Strahlungen".

[Anonymous No.16399388]

>>16398102
Based

[Anonymous No.16399451]

>>16398102
>>16398228

B&R Junger poster... you should try to keep track of all of your posts on /lit/ and publish them in an ebook format. Seriously.