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What should one read in order to improve and study debating and argumentation? Plato? Aristotle? What else?

Is there a chart or something?

>> No.16382225
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>>16382215
Truth

>> No.16382230

>>16382215
your time on earth is limited, debating retards is a waste of time, tic-toc-tic-toc-tic-toc, the big black is coming soon to drag you into eternity.

>> No.16382244

>ben shapiro
just fuck off 16 year old /pol/tard

>> No.16382246

>>16382215
How to win a debate by Schopenhauer.

>> No.16382253

>>16382215
Just get muscles and knock niggas out.
Only pussies fight with words lmfao

>> No.16382256

>>16382225
Megposter why are you doing this. You're in too deep bro you need to stop

>> No.16382259

>>16382215
Ah yes. Ben "I have never seen a wet pussy in my life" Shapiro.

>> No.16382358

>>16382215
Bro I can't even properly say things to my mom
How should I do

>> No.16383487

Debating is just irl shitposting

>> No.16383933

>>16382215
Depends on the topic at hand, otherwise you're just acting like the asshole kike in your pic

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>>16382259
Sick burn! upvoted!

>> No.16383946

>>16382215
the big book of reddit

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>>16383943
bet on a better horse

>> No.16383981

>>16382259
His wife is a doctor ergo she surpasses 99.9% of roasties

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No books needed, just follow the guide.

>> No.16384131

>>16382215
Use socratic questioning to figure out the broad outlines of your opponent's ideological edifice, putting him in a defensive position where he's forced to give formal definitions to concepts and to establish boundaries for his claims, which is information you will then use to figure out the weak spots in the machine, the unexamined notions, the parroted folk wisdom, the unchallenged dogmas. Once you have this figured out, start throwing potshots at different places, talk about the wider implications of his ideas and force him into conceding to exceptions or hypotheticals, get him juggling with several different new concepts, trying to digest more than he possibly could at once. When the confusion starts to take over, and his voice is starting to get shaky and his thought are unorganized, you deliver the death blow at this spot, and watch the whole thing crumble as that which is axiomatic and therefore essential to many of his conclusions is shown to be a mere fiction of acculturation, a widely accept lie that can't withstand scrutiny. He's thinking now. Lots of silences in-between phrases. No eye contact. What happened to mr. Confidence that was talking shit a while ago? Make use of those intervals, fill the blanks yourself, don't give him time to process anything, push him into desperation, scold him, talk about how could he possibly have answers for complex problems when he can't even properly inquiry into basic truths? But then you start to shift your tone a bit , you see, you start to sound a little more casual, kind, curious. Your target is burning with shame, and he will cling to any display of human warmth, he will accept any concession of defeat as long as he can save face, so you don't have to kill the prey. Make use of his collapsed mental defenses to imply that you're not a threat, you were not trying to hurt him, but to cure him from an ideological disease, just like a doctor would cure you from a physical one, and that pain is part of the process. Assume a new archetypal role of defender, of father figure, use a friendly body language, speak in a southern accent. He will be welcoming of you, and now you have made a disciple for life. The pain is over, let the healing begin - together.

>> No.16384132

>>16383960
>what is a joke

>> No.16384142

>>16383981
great, so Shapiro can't satisfy a woman that meets your standards either

>> No.16384171

>>16384142
Holy projection! Imagine not making your wife's pussy produce white lubrication to take in your 9 in cock .

>> No.16384472

>>16383960
This is why I hate twitter. People only ever respond with snide remarks, ad hominem/straw-manning, and clever-sounding phrases instead of legit arguments. Not to mention that's not even remotely what he said.