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16373507 No.16373507 [Reply] [Original]

>"Of course she might have loved him just for a minute, when they were first married--and loved me more even then, do you see?"
>Suddenly he came out with a curious remark.
>In any case," he said, "it was just personal."
What in the ever loving fuck did he mean by this? My Professor insists that the entirety of understanding Gatsby comes together in this remark. I don't get it.

>> No.16373521

>>16373507
Keep reading until you get it, ole spore.

>> No.16373545

>>16373507
>>16373521
Is it worth reading again? I read it in 2005 for an English course in university but hated it for some reason

>> No.16373578

>>16373507
From my admittedly somewhat dim recollection of the Great Gatsby I'd guess it's referring to Gatsby's hyper-idealism as contrasted with some fleeting personal feeling that Daisy had. He has a vision of complete perfection, and the vagaries of some girl's emotions don't matter in comparison with whatever he is dreaming of, the real purpose he imagines for her and for everything in his life is separate.

>> No.16373705

>>16373507
Is it even possible to put this scene into a clearer parlance? Gatsby thinks he as a memory was loved more by her than her husband was, you know, the husband whom she married for personal reasons and circumstances.

>> No.16373713

>>16373545
>15 years ago
>hasn’t re-read it

Ngmi

Unless you read and re-read and listen to the audiobook and have favorite chapters; ngmi

>> No.16374233

>>16373507
Gatsby is a parvenu - he wasn't born rich. He's worked to become "good enough" - which, in his mind, mostly means "rich enough" - for Daisy. Then he has to deal with her choosing Tom over him.

He can either admit he never will become "good enough" - i.e. there is some deep quality in him which will always be inferior to Tom, no matter how rich he is - or he can dismiss it as a personal quirk on her part (the way people say "it's just a matter of taste"). Obviously the second is more appealing. He's saying, in effect, "I wasn't deluding myself; I really did achieve what I wanted to; it's just that one can never allow for the vagueries and oddities of a girl's personal affections."

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16374285

>tfw find the 'analysis itt totally insipid
>tfw have my own interpretation which encapsulates other scenes in the book forming an interesting insight
>tfw don't want to post it

>> No.16375091

It’s been a while since I read Gatsby. I see your quote as idealization of memories, concepts, people. Daisy’s a pretty immature person so it’d make sense for her to idealize her memories with Gatsby in a very unrealistic way, just like Gatsby idealizes Daisy to the point of making his whole life about getting her back. Daisy might’ve loved Tom but that doesn’t matter if your mind is fixated on something, you’ll never get over your own romantic ideas of the past.

>> No.16375101

>>16374285
Please do Anon. I love this book and getting more insight on it sounds lovely.