/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16365431]

is this true? if so please give books that exemplify this feel.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365473]

>>16365431
It’s just obvious. They pine for their youth or the era that founded their country. They venerate the ancients as smarter and wiser, (but only their favorites!) They want unmovable traditions no matter how it hurts the new. Stasis. They hate the march of time and the changing world they live in. It’s a hell to them. They look forward to their afterlife, where nothing changes. They are children deep down, that can’t grow up.

[Anonymous No.16365505]

>>16365431
Ban all twitter screencap threads.

[Anonymous No.16365552]

>>16365431
true
>revenge is: the will's ill will against time and its 'it was'

[Anonymous No.16365557]

>>16365431
Ban all spics and indians.

[Anonymous No.16365558]

>>16365473
>They are children deep down, that can’t grow up.
takes one to &c. &c.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365571]

>>16365558
I was a Christian conservative in my youth. Stupidly stoic at times. I grew up and out of all that.

[Anonymous No.16365574]

>>16365473
how can you live for like 4 decades and still have such a simplistic view of your political opponents?

[Anonymous No.16365584]

>>16365571
why do you think I give a fuck, duder?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365608]

>>16365574
Because that was a very short generalizing post. Having come from that kind of background I k ow all kinds of things about my “political opponents”

>>16365584
Hi. Who are you?

[Anonymous No.16365627]

>>16365431
>liberal projection
woah so this is """progress""", very new and exciting
also the spanish language is so shit to read and listen to

[Anonymous No.16365639]

>>16365608
I get satisfaction from being with people in my real life, not by forging some contentious persona on a Croatian fly-fish tying imageboard. Though I did do that on /mu/ when I was a tripfag as a kid. Stupidly self-aggrandizing at times. I grew up and out of all that.

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>>16365639

[Anonymous No.16365662]

>>16365650

[Anonymous No.16365671]

>>16365662
Cute

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365680]

>>16365662
*scratches chin*

[Anonymous No.16365711]

>>16365680
Let it be noted that I still don't like you.

[Anonymous No.16365734]

>>16365627
i don't think the twitter post was negative about reactionaries. books that pine for a lost golden age are comfy. i like their wistful tone.

[Anonymous No.16365739]

So the thread is only on topic if it's true, huh.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365753]

>>16365711
*massages behind ear*

[Anonymous No.16365761]

>>16365431
Considering Nietzsche said the final stage of life is the infant and Jung said the second half of life is rediscovering your inner child, I would be inclined to agree.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365773]

>>16365761
The Golden Age was first, a time that cherished
Of its own will, justice and right; no law,
No punishment, was called for; fearfulness
Was quite unknown, and the bronze tablets held
No legal threatening; no suppliant throng
Studied a judge’s face; there were no judges,
There did not need to be. Trees had not yet
Been cut and hollowed, to visit other shores.
Men were content at home, and had no towns
With moats and walls around them; and no trumpets
Blared out alarums; things like swords and helmets
Had not been heard of. No one needed soldiers.
People were unaggressive, and unanxious;
The years went by in peace. And Earth, untroubled,
Unharried by hoe or plowshare, brought forth all
That men had need for, and those men were happy
Gathering berries from the mountainsides,
Cherries, or blackcaps, and the edible acorns.
Spring was forever, with a west wind blowing
Softly across the flowers no man had planted,
And Earth, unplowed, brought forth rich grain; the field,
Unfallowed, whitened with wheat, and there were rivers
Of milk, and rivers of honey, and golden nectar
Dripped from the dark-green oak-trees.

[Anonymous No.16365792]

>>16365773
Do not reply to me. Delete your post.

[Anonymous No.16365803]

>>16365431
I don't consider myself a reactionary, but I can see this. I consider the modern era to be at the bottom of a valley between two peaks that differ in height. The past was better than the present, but the future is golden.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365831]

>>16365792
Nietzsche’s idea of the übermensch is a cross between an aristocrat and an anarchist.
We can only make this world like Ovid’s Golden age after we rip capitalism away. Only then could any übermensch come into being.
I am not so different from my childhood self, wishing to be Luke Skywalker

[Anonymous No.16365840]

>>16365831
Here we observe Butterfly admit to autoandrophilic tendencies in her youth.

[Anonymous No.16365854]

>>16365831
Shut the fuck up nigger tranny. Do not reply to my posts.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16365868]

>>16365840
I would switch the sex of characters all the time.
Luke was originally supposed to be a girl, you know

[Anonymous No.16365977]

>>16365473
yeah I'm pining for my lost childhood and the imaginary past that's why I think its fucked up that its defacto illegal to call a crossdressing man a man instead of a woman as of 3 or 4 years ago

when I think "who are these commie retards demanding we defund the police what fucking planet do you people live on" what I'm actually doing is fantasizing about returning to the womb, or being fed milk by mommy's tit again. this is such a brilliant insight, you must be really up on your Susan Sontag

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366041]

>>16365977
Liberals are playing you for a sucker.
Yeah, men are males, but cops are not your friends. Young fools, like yourself, identify as one thing and unwittingly do the bidding of their enemies.

Read this book?

[Anonymous No.16366136]

>>16366041
I m not so much a right winger as i am anti leftists these people are deranged they want to normalize pedophila and make white people into second rate citizens they will stop at nothing but totalitarian control. Only and enemy would want to destroy you

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366174]

>>16366136
Pedophiles want to normalize pedophilia. “Leftists” want to end capitalism and save the planet from environmental degradation. These IDpol tactics that are agitating you are being encouraged bu the liberal “neoliberal” spooks to keep people from organizing, uniting, against the elites
Stop buying the IDpol, please.

[Anonymous No.16366247]

>>16366174
All politics is identity politics. As a straight white man i am just defending my family from those who want to destroy us.

[Anonymous No.16366279]

>>16366174
I mean have you tried bringing up nietzsche or any western philosopher for that matter around your local lgbtqia marxist cattle? In no time you will see their little stupid cowlike eyes light up in panic. Soon enough they will start with the usual subhuman bleating "wasnt he sexist? Arent you being dangerously eurocentric? Why read books by dead white men when you could have been streaming the latest diverse and inclusive workplace comedies at netflix hulu and disneygo? Didnt you know reading is ableist towards people who are too retarded to read? Have you been taking your SSRIs and HRT? it is very important that you take the medication dr goldstein prescribed otherwise we will have to report you to corporate for mandatory sensitivity training".

[Anonymous No.16366302]

>>16365571
so you are a reactionary opposed to the mindset of your upbringing, alright.

[Anonymous No.16366325]

>>16365627
still better than american english.

[Anonymous No.16366331]

>>16365831
get rid of capitalism and replace it with what?

[Anonymous No.16366371]

>>16366331
Cultural marxism

[Anonymous No.16366379]

>>16365803
>>16365761
>>16365431
liberals are infatuated with childhood because they want to pass laws ''for the sake of the children'' as a cover to regulate more and more people's life

[Anonymous No.16366382]

>>16366371
you can only stay on top for so long.
clock's ticking, whitey.

[Anonymous No.16366416]

>>16366379
Its pretty obvious leftists specially the lgbt kind are pedophiles who want to prey sex on our children

[Anonymous No.16366713]

>>16365473
Based Butterfly

[Anonymous No.16366748]

>Tripfag ruins another thread

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366784]

>>16366279
I don’t keep in contact.
>wasn’t he sexist
Well he isn’t now (is what I’d say)

>>16366331
A moneyless, non-market economy, stateless, minimal hierarchy world of maximum freedom and equal responsibility. Where wealth is measured in friendship building.

[Anonymous No.16366786]

>>16365431
>>16365473
isn't it sad to samefag at your age?
and not, reactionary views have nothing to do with childhood memories since they refer to a time that the subjects in question have never experienced
they are more similar to anarchist and marxist, in that they long for an ideal state of things that never actually existed and never will
t. neoliberal chad

[Anonymous No.16366806]

>>16365431
What's with the left and always trying to explain why the only reason anyone could disagree with them is some sort of trauma or "pathological" thought patterns? Most people on the right would say that lefties are misguided at best, or just low effort conformists at worst, but I don't think I ever saw this sort of psychologizing the political going on on the right.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366807]

>>16366786
>chad
>death drive zombie
Stupid frog

[Anonymous No.16366818]

>>16366806
It’s way easier to point out the ideological propaganda of the right than of the left.

[Anonymous No.16366828]

>>16366807
whatever alternative political vision you have it's about as unrealistic and childish as the reactionaries
and neoliberalism isn't destroying the planet, we even gave you the tech to transition you should be grateful to us

[Anonymous No.16366831]

>>16366818
>everyone I don't like is hitler
Amazing.

[Anonymous No.16366841]

>>16366831
You implied so much from what I just said it was like a grad level class on post modern literary analysis.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366852]

>>16366828
The right want monarchy, patriarchy, a theocracy, a new Rome or whatever ideal of the past they like best.
The left are eager to get out of the hellscape of this period. But you and your dupe class support burning through the last of our resources till there’s so much carbon that we fry ourselves to death. The planet will go on with a few smaller species, but we’re heading to certain extinction because of this idiot game.

[Anonymous No.16366857]

>>16366852
>The left are eager to get out of the hellscape of this period
By putting us in a hellscape they control you retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.16366860]

>>16366852
>monarchy, patriarchy, a theocracy

Explain in at least three sentences each why these are wrong and to be avoided.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366865]

>>16366857
Not Stalinism, anon. Please, I know there are still some of those dimwits, but that’s not me nor is it leftism.

[Anonymous No.16366870]

>>16365473
Ancients are dumb and gay, and the third world nationalists are the ones that want reversion to ooga-booga stuff.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366876]

>>16366860
They are bad, they are old and done with. It is like that Italian film Salo says.

[Anonymous No.16366890]

>>16366876
I gave you such a simple task, and yet you still managed to fail it. Exactly as expected.

[Anonymous No.16366907]

>>16366852
>The left are eager to get out of the hellscape of this period
And you have no solution to it beyond childish dreams as always.
But the worst part is that just like reactionaries you create imaginary boogeyman to force normal people to agree with your political ambitions.
The problems that both you and the reactionaries have are mostly overexagerated fantasies, but you both know it and don't believe in them, you just use the cinically to try to reach you goals.
And even sadder than that is the fact that in both cases your desire for political power is nothing but the result of a lack of personal meaning and direction in life.

[Anonymous No.16366925]

>>16365431
>>16365473
wtf I love modernity now

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » oI3er5KKetj No.16366926]

Nvm guys I retract all of my opinions.

[Anonymous No.16366938]

>>16366907
>le enlightened centrist has entered the thread

[Anonymous No.16366944]

>>16366938
oh now you remove your trip to post this pathetic meaningless reply?
sad

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16366949]

>>16366925
I’m not loving neoliberal modernity, anon.

>>16366890
Fuck you. I’m tired. What the hell you want?

>>16366907
Oh? It is my responsibility to come up with the solution? Okay. It is what I’ve been working on. They’re not childish though. Stupid frog

[Anonymous No.16366963]

>>16366949
So you don't even have the solution to your imaginary problems? Besides power grabbing?

[Anonymous No.16366967]

>>16366925
Why did suicide take a dip in the late 1990s? Disappearance of trendy hairstyles from the previous decades made people able to have hope in their lives again?

[Anonymous No.16367003]

>>16366925
I wonder if there is a similar graph for lack of religious beliefs

[Anonymous No.16367014]

>>16365571
And now you're a childless homosexual who posts her dumb opinions and shit-stained panties online for attention, who the fuck are you to call anyone a child?

[Anonymous No.16367023]

>>16366967
Google says because of a decline in gun ownership, since gun suicide declined but every other suicide method remained the same

[Anonymous No.16367040]

>>16365431
Marxists are the ultimate reactionaries, however.
They want to accommodate the modern industrial, secular, and scientific society to something as close as currently possible to an economic system which (they believe) existed in primitive times: communism.

>[Primitive communism:] A term usually associated with Karl Marx, but most fully elaborated by Friedrich Engels (in The Origin of the Family, 1884),[5] and referring to the collective right to basic resources, egalitarianism in social relationships, and absence of authoritarian rule and hierarchy that is supposed to have preceded stratification and exploitation in human history. Both Marx and Engels were heavily influenced by Lewis Henry Morgan's speculative evolutionary history, which described the "liberty, equality and fraternity of the ancient gentes", and the "communism in living" said to be evident in the village architecture of native Americans. —John Scott and Gordon Marshall, 2007, Dictionary of Sociology.

They're basically asking society to wear the economic equivalent of a toga. They wish for a return for the golden age - provided that they can still have their steam engines and telegraphs (which is a classic characteristic of the reactionary: give me my ancient ideals, but let me keep my modern materials).

The only true non-reactionaries are those who accept the world as it is, with free market, blind consumerism, Belle Delphine, and more - id est, people like me, who don't really care, as well as those who are usually grouped under the banner of "evil capitalists". Conservatives are not reactionaries either, or at least not those who have a strong practical sense and are favorable to occasional reforms - the same applies to a certain, rarer sort of (usually post-45 and European) left-wing social-democrat.

Revolutionaries, however, are always reactionaries, and vice-versa. Behind every future utopia you will find the hidden figure of an ancient golden age.

>>16365571
And now you wish for an utopia which is going to establish all the moral values of the same Christian world you grew up in, but now totally stripped of what little was left of paganism in them.

Funny, isn't it? You are still a Christian in my estimation, because your whole line of thinking streams from the Christian tradition and would be quite alien to Ancient paganism, Chinese thought, tribal/primitive thought, and other currents of human thinking outside of the Christian world.

Unless I am wrong in my idea of what you defend. But aren't you the one who keeps talking about organizing independent communities under such principles as equality, participation, camaraderie, and solidarity, having happiness as a goal? Do you realize how enormously Christian this idea is? Those are typical Christian principles, and happiness is what you have left once Paradise is out of the picture.
So your leftism is a sort of return to the beliefs of your childhood, and you are guilty of the reactionary's vice.

[Anonymous No.16367054]

For capital T tradionalism it really isn't. People, Crisis of the Modern World is like 150 pages long, and Guenon's way of elaboration is double digit IQ proof.

>>16365473
You're a 40 year old childless hag, eternal child so to speak, stop projecting.

[Anonymous No.16367057]

>>16366925
hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.16367143]

>>16367023
So the potential suicides by gun don't get offloaded to other methods? Interesting, this does lend credit to the idea that in suicide, opportunity makes the thief, so to speak.

[Anonymous No.16367155]

>>16367143
>potential suicides by gun don't get offloaded to other methods

Could also mean they tried it, but failed, and now are a bunch of disfigured cripples receiving free money from the government.
Yet another argument in favor of gun ownership.

[Anonymous No.16367161]

>>16365473
butterfly needs to be hanged

>>16365431
maybe today, but most reactionary thinking is just an equal and opposite reaction to losers who try to undermine society and culture

[Anonymous No.16367210]

>>16365753
*bites your hideous man hands*

[Anonymous No.16367213]

>>16366279
Why is this always what rightwingers / anti leftists or people who believe the "cultural marxism" conspiracy?

>everyone is a sheep
>they want to rape my children
>everyone I disagree with is a tranny

[Anonymous No.16367242]

>>16366382

[Anonymous No.16367265]

>>16367213
>>everyone is a sheep
i think most people think that way, it's a way to inflate our own ego. i know lefties who consider normies braindead zombies who are controlled by capitalists.
>>they want to rape my children
>>everyone I disagree with is a tranny
considering the large amount of pedophiles and transexual involved in the leftists movements it doesn't seem like an unreasonable assumtion.