George Bernard Shaw is cancelled

[Anonymous No.16354591]

And it's about time - that angry little Godless Irishman has annoyed people for decades:

>RADA students demand George Bernard Shaw's name be dropped from drama school's theatre because of playwright's support for eugenics and fascism

>Students at RADA have called for George Bernard Shaw's name to be removed from the drama school's theatre because of his support for eugenics.

>The students have demanded the playwright's name be removed from the George Bernard Shaw Theatre (GBS Theatre) as part of an anti-racism action plan.

>They have also asked the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (RADA) to stop performing Restoration comedies due to their association with the Empire, the Telegraph reported.

>The anti-racism action plan has been drawn up by RADA's student body and argues that 'RADA celebrates historical figures who embraced racist ideologies'.

>Speaking of re-naming the GBS Theatre, the plan says: 'This man spoke in support of eugenics and fascism.'

>RADA has promised to act on the students's action plan, saying in a statement that it recognised that the school 'has been and currently is institutionally racist'.

>Irish playwright Bernard Shaw controversially supported eugenics in his writings and lectured for the Eugenic Education Society, which aimed to teach the public about the practice.

>Shaw, who wrote more than 60 plays, even voiced praise for Hitler in 1935, as well as expressing admiration for Mussolini and Stalin.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8727849/RADA-students-demand-George-Bernard-Shaws-dropped-drama-schools-theatre.html

[Anonymous No.16354609]

>>16354591
If you’re going to get angry about fascist authors and poets, get ready to wipe most of the modernist canon lol

[Anonymous No.16354669]

>>16354609
Yes. That's the goal.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16354693]

Wasn’t he a socialist though?
I mean, if he were fascist, /lit/ would have three threads a week about him. But I barely see one a years

[Anonymous No.16354702]

Wasn’t he a socialist though?
I mean, if he were fascist, /lit/ would have three threads a week about him. But I barely see one a years

[Anonymous No.16354759]

>>16354693
He was socialist in a very cynical way. A lot of this comes up in his play 'Major Barbara.' He saw charity and efforts to 'uplift' the poor as a kind of mirror-image of the cruel industrialists who underpaid and exploited their workers. His solution was to decrease the overall stock of poor over time through a reduction in birth rates among the poor (part of his eugenics scheme) along with a kind of de-financialization of the poor (ie, no more ripping them off for usury), with the government helping to manage them through economic policy. His ideas about the financial system overlapped a bit with Ezra Pound, another cancelled writer.

[Anonymous No.16354836]

>>16354759
Great movie. David Lean to thank for that of course

[Anonymous No.16354851]

>>16354591
>Ireland suddenly taking a stance on Hitler

>Ireland maintained a public stance of neutrality to the end, by refusing to close the German and Japanese Legations, and the Taoiseach Éamon de Valera signed the book of condolence on Adolf Hitler's death on 2 May 1945, and personally visited Ambassador Hempel, following the usual protocol on the death of a Head of State of a state with a legation in Ireland. President Hyde visited Hempel separately on 3 May.[46] The visits caused a storm of protest in the United States.[47] Irish envoys in other nations did likewise, but no other Western European democracies followed Ireland's example.[48]

>De Valera denounced reports of Bergen-Belsen concentration camp as "anti-national propaganda"; according to Paul Bew, this was not out of disbelief but rather because the Holocaust undermined the assumptions underlying Irish neutrality: moral equivalence between the Allies and the Axis, and the idea that the Irish were the most persecuted people in Europe.[49]

[Anonymous No.16354864]

>>16354759
He was talking about the lumpenproles, not actual working people.

[Anonymous No.16355254]

>>16354864
/lit/'s a li'l haven of lumpens, anon. You're aware of this, right?
And what precisely is wrong with the politically inactive poor? Especially in a fradulent age where one side's school marmishly (and ignorantly) self righteous and the other side an even more ignorant politico-demoniacal manifestation of the WWE?
It's not that the world is 'crazy' so much as batshit stupid.

[Anonymous No.16355342]

>>16355254
>/lit/'s a li'l haven of lumpens
They let you post on /lit/ from prison?

>politically inactive poor
No, lumpenproles = the criminal underclass. They're as sociopathic as the rich, just with less money.

[Anonymous No.16355614]

Why is a fascist considered worse than a reactionary. I mean, almost every pre-1800 author would have disagreed with liberalism and democracy as fascists did.

[Anonymous No.16355722]

>>16355342
Wrong
To Marx Stirner was a lumpen
Ultimately what lumpen came to mean were those poor who didn't give a fuck about Marx, his program, or the more numerous opposition(s) either for that matter

[Anonymous No.16355784]

>>16355722
>To Marx Stirner was a lumpen
Wasn't Stirner a con artist who leeched off the inheritances of various women?

[Anonymous No.16355839]

>>16355784
Sounds pretty based, to me.

[Anonymous No.16355884]

>>16354693
He was writing in the 20s and 30s. Fascism and socialism were being discussed before the holocaust and Stalinism, so they traded ideas and everyone entertained them equally. I don’t think he’s committed to either.

[Anonymous No.16355890]

>>16355784
I don't deny the criminal underworld involvement in the lumpen scene, anon. I'm just saying that it was its indifference to political matters that ultimately rankled Marx

[Anonymous No.16355892]

>>16354693
The delusion that modern leftists have anything to do with socialist groups of centuries past will never stop being funny. One of the biggest socialist groups in the UK had eugenics as its other major policies. One of the founders of socialism wrote against women’s rights. Engels thought homosexuality was anti worker bourgeois hedonism

[Anonymous No.16355898]

>>16355890
No, I think it's more that they make no positive contribution to the economy. They constitute their own parasite class, along with the capitalists.

[Anonymous No.16355907]

>>16355892
All those positions are perfectly consistent with anticapitalism. Just as bourgeois liberalism is perfectly consistent with capitalism.

[Anonymous No.16355920]

>>16355907
Yes, not only consistent, but perhaps necessary. Of course modern socialists fall into hysterics the second you mention something like not flooding the country with scab labor, so reading a lot of work by the original socialist groups must be verboten. I wonder if they have reading lists or summaries purposely designed to omit these facts.

[Anonymous No.16355922]

>>16354591
He was based Wagnerian(even if he did interpret it in a economic sense).

[Anonymous No.16355924]

>>16354693
Go and read The Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism, Capitalism, Sovietism and Fascism

[Anonymous No.16355936]

>>16354702
Yes, he was a Fascist. He praises all of the movements of Fascism throughout Europe and seemed opposed to any ideas of "egalitarianism", so almost certainly yes a Fascist. But Fascist not as a cause but a logical good and hence not tied to it as "his movement" like a Hitler. He also takes some lit knowledge to find and understand and spend time on which most plebs are filtered by hence it only has good anons talking of it and not threads persistently.

[Anonymous No.16355958]

>>16354591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQXAqP6ReqY
He didn't sugarcoat any of it either.

[Anonymous No.16355975]

>>16355958
Lmao definition of a madman, though to a degree I disagree with his morality the sentiment of justifying your existence still in relation to the social is right.

[Anonymous No.16355988]

>>16355898
Odd that history shows quite clearly that though that capitalist über class *can* be gotten rid of (kill them, i.e. take complete advantage of their inbred civility) the 'parasite' under class swells as a result.
People gonna people, anon.

[Anonymous No.16355995]

>>16355920
You're delusional. Open borders is a rightwing, Koch-brothers supported position.

[Anonymous No.16356039]

>>16355995
>l. Open borders is a rightwing, Koch-brothers supported position.
So said Sanders, to the scandal of the left

[Anonymous No.16356049]

>>16356039
Nope. Get out of your /pol/ bubble.

[Anonymous No.16356230]

>Shaw espoused racial equality, and inter-marriage between people of different races.[304] Despite his expressed wish to be fair to Hitler,[177] he called anti-Semitism "the hatred of the lazy, ignorant fat-headed Gentile for the pertinacious Jew who, schooled by adversity to use his brains to the utmost, outdoes him in business".[305] In The Jewish Chronicle he wrote in 1932, "In every country you can find rabid people who have a phobia against Jews, Jesuits, Armenians, Negroes, Freemasons, Irishmen, or simply foreigners as such. Political parties are not above exploiting these fears and jealousies."[306]

[Anonymous No.16356452]

>>16355958
Love this. Whenever liberals say that socialism and fascism are two sides of the same coin, the socialists kick off and start screaming the roof down. Now, when we take a cliched socialist sentiment about contributing to society, suddenly the author is fascist and must be cancelled. The quote here is clearly directed at capitalists, landlords, and so on who do not labour themselves in the way employees or tenants do. Socialists have always argued that if you do not contribute to society as a labourer, then you are of the parasite class of capital owners. The disabled and so on are unable to work, not unwilling, and a distinction was always made here. In fact a classic socialist demand was social insurance for those unable to work... The capitalist, speculator, landlord, etc is being asked to justify his social utility with the implication being that their wealth comes at the expense of others in a society. I disagree with this arithmetic, but I believe that I have read enough to at least understand the basic socialist case.

If you take the retarded BLM arguments out of context they can be used to justify genocide and killing of all kinds. Every runt communist comes out with this sort of argument, and gets defensive when they realise that this violent ideology could one day apply to one of their own protected classes...

Most of these activists are just opportunists looking around for things to dismantle. It's so much easier to destroy than to create, and easier still to replace originality with controversy.

[Anonymous No.16356631]

>>16356230
Not surprised. He's already an under represented great playwright unless one happens to be from Toronto. Anyone out there ever attend the Summer Shaw festival there?

[Anonymous No.16356658]

>>16356049
nice try bud

[Anonymous No.16356666]

>>16356230
>he wants to kill equally, now I can like him!
lol libtards

[Anonymous No.16356678]

>>16354609
T.bh we would only lose about a dozen valuable authors, however each and every one of those would be a terrible loss.