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16352617 No.16352617 [Reply] [Original]

Why does this board have such an angry knee-jerk reaction to any mentions of science?

>> No.16352628

>>16352617
Because the world in general is overly materialistic and reductionistic. They believe everything including the human experience can be explained by
>muh atoms
it's a reactionary pushback against that

>> No.16352665
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16352665

I don't know. If only some genius mathematician proved that given the availability of advanced technology, the process of inevitability accompanies the action of natural selection upon self-propagating systems

>> No.16352691

>you know what they say... when life gives you lemons. use SCIENCE to turn the lemons into BOMBS and throw them back at god

Genetic intelligence disparities are also "unsupported by science", despite the fact they obviously exist. If it was discovered that human intelligence didn't vary between populations separated by hundreds of thousands of years, that would be a huge problem for evolutionary theory.

When scientists want something to be "unsupported by science", they simply refuse to research it.

>> No.16352697

I just hate people who have an interest in anything.

>> No.16352698

>>16352617
Insecurity and sour grapes mentality with a dash of >>16352628.
That said, while there is natural overlap between the subjects, I think a little territorialism is warranted to keep the board on topic / not a playground for STEM shitposters.
Wouldn't want to end up like /sci/ for instance, plagued by anti-science.

>> No.16352709

>>16352617
There is a science board, i think. And most of them are trolls so is expected posters of that board also will troll here.

>> No.16352715

>>16352691
t. 22 year old with the mind of a 14 year old

>> No.16352725

>>16352617
Scientism. A lot of the science-peddlers on here are tourists trying to convince us that philosophy is nonsense or whatever.

>> No.16352779

>>16352617
This is an anti-science board.

>> No.16352806

>>16352628
Isn’t it obvious? it’s because https://youtu.be/n4W31QsA8NA

if you think really hard about this you should be able to figure it out on your own. science is the new religion yada yada yada. science won’t help you solve your problems like religion claimed. science is an extension of religion. science rests on assumptions that are ultimately baseless, and you can read philosophy to figure out why.

>> No.16352813

>>16352617
Because 4chan is a shithole full of tryhard contrarians LARPing for the most outdated ideologies as long as it makes them feel special and unique.

>>16352725
Science and philosophy have been historically interlinked and have greatly influences each other, at some point they were literally the same thing. Unfortunately we are flooded by christniggers who can only quote their meme book and can't accept any other topic.

>> No.16352817

Science is usually bullshit or and labcoats are annoying stuck up autists who think everyone of their tests means anything and they’re smart. Only one I have reapect for is mathematics and even those guys act like shitheads

>> No.16352845

science is fake, they fake all their data to get funding grants

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16352853

>>16352845
>>16352817
>>>/x/

>> No.16352858

>>16352853
Yeah that typo I had was pretty bad I deserve this

>> No.16352864

because its usually the reddit tier I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE crap

>> No.16352875

>>16352617

A lot of us here are scientists by trade. I don't come here for science, I have enough at work. Especially not for pop science, which I despise.

t. physicist

>> No.16352889

>>16352691
Do you mean genetic intelligentic disparities based on race? If not, I have no clue what you're talking about. If you do, I have no clue how it could be possible that some scientific fact about the world is obviously true but it is also unsupported by science.
>>16352779
Why?
>>16352806
>science is the new religion
Huh?
>science won’t help you solve your problems like religion claimed. science is an extension of religion
Do you mean that scientists are claiming to give answers that some religions try to give? Applications of science do obviously help people but not necessarilly in the same ways religion might try to.
>science rests on assumptions that are ultimately baseless
Maybe, but you could probably say the same about any sorts of ideas. That is not particular to science.

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>>16352617
Because people act like science is the only way to find truth.

>> No.16352908

>>16352889
99.99% of people don't read the studies that scientists use to support their statements and ideas, they just take it on faith

>> No.16352970

>>16352628
>>16352725
>>16352806
>>16352817
>>16352845
>literally just MUH STRAWMAN

>> No.16353304

>>16352628
But it isn't, the entire postwar worldview falls apart under an honest materialist examination.

>> No.16353315

>>16352617
It doesnt. people bring up scientific concepts that dont related much to the topic at hand. then spergs think they hate science or something.

>> No.16353347

>>16352813
>Christians
>anti-scientific
Grew up in the 90s, didn't you?

>> No.16353398
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16353398

Scientism and territoriality have been a thing for hundreds of years.
I personally have more of a problem with the tone and attitude of popular science, science reporting, and entry level science writing of the past 30 years because it became too jocular and juvenile ("gee golly isn't science so weird and cool?"). I wish people would return to the more dignified and straightforward tone that was more common before. Feynman, Sagan, and others had a lot to do with that shift.

>> No.16353412

>>16353398
Considering the behavior of the statistically average human, this cartoon is actually based as fuck

>> No.16353443

>>16352617
Science is cool, it's scientistism that's cringe

>> No.16353521
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Bacause it fosters effectiveness and profit, general well-being and increase communications. It leaves no place for black metal.

>> No.16353761

>>16352617
Usually if someone makes a /sci/ thread on /lit/ they're trying to bait in some way. Occasionally someone who thinks Skinner was right will show up and be good for a laugh.
>>16352875
Also my field has no real board to represent it. It's a mix of /out/, /an/, and /sci/ but there's no real place for threads about it. Not a complaint btw.
>>16353398
>>16353412
I wish I had a nature Terminator.

>> No.16354597

>>16353761
>Also my field has no real board to represent it. It's a mix of /out/, /an/, and /sci/ but there's no real place for threads about it. Not a complaint btw.

Hey thats cool, I just sit in an office the whole day and do computations.

>> No.16354665

>>16353398
Wtf? I love agenda 21 now?

>> No.16354712

Fuck science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUVLPkOut-I

>> No.16354774

>>16354597
>Hey thats cool, I just sit in an office the whole day and do computations.
If I get good enough I get the privilege of sitting at in an office all day being a manager. Truly every field is a journey to eventually sitting at a desk.

>> No.16354776

>>16353443
basically this

>> No.16355060

>>16352697
same

>> No.16355226

>>16352908
Which aspects of science do you think are taken on merely faith? Be specific.
>>16353315
This thread shows very well that is does.
>>16353443
>>16353398
What scientism is peddled on this board?

>> No.16355253

>>16352889
fuck you for replying to multiple threads. we don't want science it's bullshit.

>> No.16355276

>>16355226
There's quite a few assumptions in science which must be taken on faith, like that the universe wasn't created yesterday with the appearance of age, that all things that happen around us have natural causes, that the universe operates on natural laws which can be discovered, that the universe exists independent of our mind, or even that two contradictory statements cannot be true.

>> No.16355374

>>16352813
>science and philosophy are the same
>that’s why I support science and throw away philosophy, because philosophers here throw out science all the time
Clown world.

>> No.16355444

>>16352897
That quote from Krauss is one of the least intelligent things I have read in a while. It's no wonder the progress of theoretical physics has essentially stalled if this is what passes for intelligence in that realm

>> No.16355474

He is definitely the worst one of them all. He wrote an entire book attempting to prove that we could theoretically get a universe from nothing but then he redefined "nothing" to be "something" without realizing it. Also the others at least have backed away or at least shied away from claiming that science is the only way to know truth, but I genuinely think he's too stupid to say why that's a problem.

>> No.16355487

>why do people with a soul hate conscious denting automata
Gee idk op

>> No.16355588

>>16352617
Because people act like science is useful for finding truth and not just for understanding the world we live in. Also science is more or less like a religion for most (it serves the same purpose as religion, which makes it a religion).


But mainly because science is more trendy than philosophy nowadays and the incels here are salty about it.

>> No.16355591

>>16352665
Literal incel terrorist

>> No.16355598

>>16352617
because /lit/ is actually pretty stupid generally

>> No.16355601

>>16352617
-romantics
-reactionaries
-religious
-continental philosophy adherents

I think many anons around here fall into at least one of those categories, and so want to believe in some sort of mysticism and push back against what they see as civilizational sickness (a perception which is admittedly correct).

The knee jerking goes both ways though... Often science-bros fail to appreciate the pragmatic value of 'grand white lies' to society.

>> No.16355654

>>16355374
Never said I'd throw away philosophy, I'd just love to see some philosophical debate regarding the latest scientific discoveries and dilemmas instead of having 20 threads about cheesus and theism all the time.
Again, philosophy has been interlinked and influenced by science since the very beginning, I don't see why it's such an unpopular topic here.

>> No.16355773

>>16352617
Science has already been refuted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDnkV0zgXxM

>> No.16355800

scientists killed my parents

>> No.16355816

>>16352897
>Bill Nye
>black science man
not real science

>> No.16355978

Name one time science has ever been right about anything ever

>> No.16355981

>>16352617
Because I'm too lazy to learn about Science.

>> No.16355985

>>16352617
knee jerk reaction to mentions of science just flew over my house.

>> No.16356009

>>16352628
>muh atoms
If you still think atomism is the prevailing intellectual culture in the sciences, then I'd say that's more a problem with your ignorance of developments in the field than with science itself. Quantum mechanics has made things a lot more interesting, just because most scientists are materialists doesn't mean the things they're studying aren't meaningful

>> No.16356028

>>16355985
My uncle works at the sky above your house and he said nothing flew over there liar

>> No.16356212

>>16352897
The Dawkins quotes are a really dishonest misrepresentation. There's reasons to dislike him and this ain't it.

>> No.16356361

>>16352617
its quite sad actually they two boards should work hand in hand
yin and yang

>> No.16356373

>>16352617
Most people on this board have a natural dislike of bugmen.

>> No.16356397

>>16352617
It's full of jaded faggots who hate their existence.

>> No.16357278

>>16352617
>science says...
>therefore you should...
the process is corrupted

>> No.16357322

>>16355060
Based.

>> No.16357703

>>16355060
>>16352697
pussies

>> No.16357710

>>16352617
YEAH SCIENCE bugmen will be first to get the rope

>> No.16357718

>>16355276
>natural laws which can be discovered,
Science never implies discoverablilty.

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16357725

>>16357278
That's right, due to is/ought we need academic philosophers who all look like pic related to tell us how we ought to live.

>> No.16357755

Get this fucking thread out of here.

Read the bible moron.

>> No.16357762

Because all the booknerds were afraid of math class in high school

>> No.16357780

>>16357762
STEMlord work from homer

>> No.16357810

>>16357762
Have you ever read a paper written by a STEMbug? It's like eating dry chicken breast.

>> No.16357816

>>16357725
why let or encourage powers with unknown motives to manipulate narrative?

>> No.16357825

>>16352697
You are a soulless husk of a man.

>> No.16358115

>>16357762
Math isn't science.

>> No.16358116

Science doesn't have any answers. Not the real ones anyhow.

>> No.16358958

>>16357825
You sound like someone who has had too much money and free time. Imagine actually wasting your brain power contemplating dude science dude universe. It's not that great. I only think of ways now to get money and leave society and people like you.