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[Anonymous No.16349166]

Why can't women and normalfags into religion and theology?

[Anonymous No.16349176]

>>16349166
They aren't ready for gnosis and hermeticism.

[Anonymous No.16349177]

cum and die

[Anonymous No.16349180]

>>16349166
they don't spend enough time thinking

[Anonymous No.16349185]

>>16349166
most of them are into that though

t.living in a muslim country

[Anonymous No.16349186]

>>16349166
Because like, church was so, like, boring, y'know? Why do I like, need to go to church or, like, read the bible, when I know god is with me all the time? I worship at the altar of chad's cock.

[Anonymous No.16349280]

>>16349166
Asceticism, humility, and personal sacrifice is integral to theology and religion. Normies and women can't understand the value of asceticism and any humbling thought or tradition involving sacrifice is dismissed immediately. If you spend any time talking to young women involved in neopaganism, Wicca, or "witchcraft", you'll find that central to all of their beliefs are the ideas that they are important, they are extremely deserving of the things they want, and that their desires need no justification. They do believe in a metaphysical reality but don't want to understand it, at most they want a system of beliefs that lets them cast spells to get the cute boy in their English class to like them because that would feel nice and it would be cool to be a qt art hoe witch. Or they've been indoctrinated by years of YouTube atheist skeptic content and any possibility of a metaphysical aspect to reality is implausible to them. To them a YouTube summary of the big bang is all they need for a creation story, free will is a medieval conception and all of our actions are predetermined by chemicals in our brains, and having to sacrifice any aspect of their daily gaming, Netflix, vaping, and masturbation routine terrifies them. Normies and women don't want to think, they just want to feel nice all the time because their are cum dribbling cattle incapable of reflection

[Anonymous No.16349291]

You retards know the first converts to a religion are usually women, right? Why do you think the religion that promises women they get to go to heaven got so big in the first place?

[Anonymous No.16349297]

>>16349280
This. Ascesis and transcendence are foreign concepts to them because they only want validation to their basic selves. They fear death, and that's why they are weak.

[Anonymous No.16349301]

>>16349166
Because they are intelligent enough to understand that it's all pointless sky daddy nonsense.

[Anonymous No.16349320]

>>16349180
This. If you wish to know how to think, you must know how to die.

[Anonymous No.16349321]

>>16349166
iz thrr a yt channel you cn rec? reeding is nt me stronng swooit

[Anonymous No.16349469]

>>16349301
>OMG LE SKY DADDY YOU DUMB CHRISTIAN LMFAO

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16349472]

>>16349166
Too sane.

Get off my board, christcuck

[Anonymous No.16349480]

>>16349166
Cause they haven't been interesting or really relevant for a couple centuries

[Anonymous No.16349493]

>>16349280
Well put.

[Anonymous No.16349497]

>>16349472
woah calm down dyke. Biological instincts keeping you down sodomite?

[Anonymous No.16349503]

>>16349469
Yes. Prove God's existence. Until that can be done, >100 IQ people will continue to ignore religion.

[Anonymous No.16349508]

>>16349472
Who allowed you to speak?

[Anonymous No.16349528]

>>16349166
they don't start to believe things because they place stock in them but because others do. if every man on earth converted to Christianity tomorrow the clothes of Saint Maria would be the hottest fashion outfit

[Anonymous No.16349530]

>>16349166
they can. their religion is chad cock

[Anonymous No.16349546]

>>16349280
>Only my religion, and specifically my narrow viewpoint of my religion, qualifies as "religion."
>Only my theology is theology.
t. arrogant Churchstain.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16349548]

>>16349497
>sodomite
I don’t like anal

>>16349508
*Shoots*

[Anonymous No.16349568]

>>16349548
I would rather not hear what a filthy sodomite doesnt like as it would only provide greater suggestion to what foul things they do.

[Anonymous No.16349579]

>>16349166
Go to a church and you will see plenty of both. You wouldn't know because you haven't left the basement in months.

[Anonymous No.16349582]

>>16349166
Because they learn at an early age that their personal judgement is inefficient in terms of helping them survive, so they adapt and adopt a mindset which renders them incapable of thinking on their own. They go through life copying the lifestyles of others and constantly referring to themselves in a third person fashion. All religion starts with the belief that the self is God, and women and normalfags lack that belief.

[Anonymous No.16349585]

They are tho.
Political ideologies have pretty much filled the void of religious group think.

[Anonymous No.16349588]

>>16349166
And 4chan posters can?

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16349596]

>>16349568
You’re the one talking about anal sex, prude boy

[Anonymous No.16349612]

>>16349582
Ok virgin

[Anonymous No.16349616]

>>16349472
Shes been drinking again

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16349644]

>>16349616
Not with such filthy air clogging up my lungs and noggin

[Anonymous No.16349651]

>>16349644
Okay now I know youve been drinking.

[Anonymous No.16349675]

>>16349166
Because someone with such a dipshit take like this wouldn't understand good religion/theology if it hit them in the face

[Anonymous No.16349682]

>>16349612
Cope.

[Anonymous No.16349686]

>>16349568
It's unfortunate for yourself and everyone around you that you can't see how much of a shitty person you are.
Thankfully I don't have to deal with it, so enjoy living your life carelessly and stupidly.

[Anonymous No.16349700]

>>16349503
>You must accept my premise of empiricism for your argument.
No.

[Anonymous No.16349716]

>>16349596
I don't recall ever using the word anal not that a priestly and pious man such as myself would ever utter it without disgust.

>>16349686
Are you going to cry over a larp? I never thought internet banter was enough to hurt feelings but it seems I underestimated the extent to which modern humans can contort themselves into fragile cretins such as yourself.

[Anonymous No.16349723]

>>16349644
now we really know just how sad you are seeing that you are a vile drunkard

[Anonymous No.16349749]

>>16349546
>t. "witch"

[Anonymous No.16349789]

>>16349320
Philosophizing is practicing death
-Play-Doh

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » !!oI3er5KKetj No.16349865]

>>16349716
That IS what sodomy means.

>>16349723
I’m not drinking. I don’t drink that often actually, but certainly not in the middle of a firestorm like this.

[Anonymous No.16350100]

>>16349865
Sodomy (/ˈsɒdəmi/) or buggery (British English) is generally anal or oral sex between people or sexual activity between a person and a non-human animal (bestiality), but it may also mean any non-procreative sexual activity.

[Anonymous No.16350420]

>>16349280
So much this. I couldn't have said it better.

[Anonymous No.16350424]

>>16349166
Tradcats truly are the edgy atheists of this decade.

[Anonymous No.16350437]

>>16349185
This may come as a shock, but no their not, thats just superstition.

[Anonymous No.16350444]

>>16350424
It’s literally not popular anywhere else but this specific board on 4channel
Edgy atheism was all over the place in it’s heyday

[Anonymous No.16350940]

women are better suited to religion than men lol

[Anonymous No.16350977]

>>16349644
Based God burning new Gomorrah to the ground

[Anonymous No.16351018]

>>16349166
They were born in the era of the civilization and materialism. They can't help it.

[Anonymous No.16351076]

>>16349280
So I get what you are saying but I feel like I would much rather have people exposed to content promoting skepticism than religious indoctrination. If you are indoctrinated with skeptic tendencies, the logical end of this results in the eventual self reflection of the atheist bias of these channels, and they will then examine the claims from a skeptic point of view and obtain a more balanced conclusion "FUCK GOD FUCK RELIGION AHHH" won't be the defacto position for people over the age of 18 if they are higher than 120 iq. I used to be enamored with new wave atheism but have since gotten a more balanced view on things, if I was religiously indoctrinated I would have never been able to have the skeptic tools needed to find the one true church honestly

[Anonymous No.16351191]

>>16349166
They aren’t into theology but being into religion practically defines normalfaggotry. Rigid dogma that they don’t understand or question, at the moment in the west it’s mostly scientism

[Anonymous No.16351229]

>>16349280
Based

[Anonymous No.16351335]

>>16349716

> don't recall ever using the word anal not that a priestly and pious man such as myself would ever utter it without disgust.

You don't see the contradiction in your perfect asceticism - you call yourself priestly and pious for not uttering a bad word that you oppose on some moral ground, but actively attack others for being a 'dyke' or a 'sodomite'. All you reveal here is a moral relativism which is typical of every theologian who ever walked the earth: you may claim immorality as such as a tool of condemnation when it suits you, using it as a measure of some preeminent evil. You don't realise that this is absolutely centred around the self, not some ascetic ideal, and that the very purpose of a priestly individual is to participate in evil on a regular basis in order to form your identity. You can dress it up as being unegoistic and holy for some greater purpose, but really all you're doing is creating a fictional power for yourself based on negation alone.
To take the 'sodomy' example, I challenge you to give me one reason based on sound principles as to why putting a dick in someone's ass is 'sinful'. Of course, I'm not denying it can be bad (damaging physically) but this does not meet the criteria of 'sin', which is transcendent.

[Anonymous No.16351428]

>>16349166
The same reason most people don't have the inclination for any deep thinking. In charity one could say their lives are full of other concerns that take up their time and they don't have a lot of luxury to spend on the how and why of things.

Being a little more blunt one could just say the average person doesn't have the IQ to understand abstract concepts and thus farm their deeper thinking to others

[Jesus No.16351651]

>>16349166
because you need to be really independent and responsible, out of safe space.

[Anonymous No.16351792]

>>16349503
>He thinks needing to have things spelled out for him makes him smart

[Anonymous No.16351828]

>>16349503
Can you prove God doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.16351837]

>>16351828
>BUT LE BURDUN OF PROOF IS ON UUUUUU

[Anonymous No.16351849]

>>16349503
Explaining the metaphysical to those who have turned off that part of their brain is like trying to describe music to a deaf person or colour to the blind. It can't be done.
You have to look for it yourself. It's learned, not taught.

[Anonymous No.16351986]

>>16349166
What do you mean by "into religion." Still the vast majority of the people in the U.S. are religious in some way. Most people are not into theology probably because it is an advanced, dense subject that is not obviously valuable to learn and is very difficult for a lay person to get into unless they are highly motivated to.
>>16351837
>>16351792
>>16349469
Do you greentexting a strawman is an argument, a refutation, or anything that could valuably add to this discussion at all?
>>16349700
Nobody said any sort of evidence would have to be empircal.
>>16349528
Most people are religious, though.
>>16351191
What do you mean by scientism?
>>16351849
You're implying he has turned it off from his brain. If he did not, or if there is someone who has not, is there still no way to prove God's existence to a person like that?

[Anonymous No.16352006]

>>16351986
The reason I know it's turned off is because I used to be an agnostic who erred on the side of atheism. I was somewhat open minded but metaphysical spirit/god shit sounded retarded and I mostly ignored it.
The only way to see it is a shift in your own perspective. It's hard to explain, and how it happened to me was by accident. I just started digging internally looking for myself and I found it. Whatever 'it' is.

[Anonymous No.16352010]

>>16349166
Normalfags can though, religion is literally made for them to get into. Theology they can as well but they usually dont its only the most faithful that do. I think you're confused with modern society being unable to understand spirituality and conflating that with normies being normies

[Anonymous No.16352030]

>>16349166
Where I'm from the only people who are into religion and theology are middle-aged and old women. They drag their husbands to church but the men all find it boring.

[Anonymous No.16352135]

>>16352006
what he actually means is, as he got older and the threat of death was becoming more real, he began grasping at bigger straws to give him any kind of hope for meaning

[Anonymous No.16352147]

>>16352135
I was 18. I am not religious. I do not believe in paradise etc.
My view of God is not good or bad just complicated.

[Anonymous No.16352164]

>>16352147
ok, then i guess you just want to feel special by going on about some nonsense understanding that doesn't actually exist

[Anonymous No.16352166]

>>16352147
based department is calling again sir

[Anonymous No.16352190]

>>16351828
God died when churches installed lightning rods.

[Anonymous No.16352216]

>>16349320
Very christian of you

[Anonymous No.16352395]

>>16352164
>understanding
It's not an understanding. It's mostly intuition. It doesn't stand to reason nor does it sit right in my gut that nothing strange is going on here.
The universe is constantly evolving. Every creature in it, every molecule. If the big bang is true then at one point this was all energy in a sphere, or wherever, in whatever, whenever, however. All of this evolved from that. The planets, the plants, the animals, everything. We are all constantly evolving. Improving. To what end?
Is this a simulation? This sounds weird. I know. This idea has been tainted by people taking The Matrix literally and imagining that. No, not like The Matrix.
Iteration after iteration. Life after death after life. Each time improving, mutating, ever changing. Everything is like this. Not only matter. Not only the physical. But the metaphysical is like this. Births of culture, ideas, religions, languages, then deaths, then rebirths of new spawn, each sharing traits but mutating.
Why are we doing this? Who created the simulation? Why? Did it create itself? Are we working towards a future in which we create ourselves? The universe is on an infinite loop of birth and death because it created itself through iteration after iteration? How many iterations has this universe been through? Is it just for the lulz?

[Anonymous No.16352457]

>>16352395
If this is a simulation there must be a goal in mind. Something to correct towards. If that is the case how do we know how to correct? I think this is where intuition comes in. Where the metaphysical and the unconscious bleed in and guide us. The unconscious is the stardust in our DNA. Since it is as old as time itself it knows where to go and gives us a push. It guides us on our path to destiny. To whatever end it is we are evolving for. It might not even be us humans that are the end. We might just be a necessary force in the cosmos for another species to arrive. Maybe we are it. I don't know.

[Anonymous No.16352497]

>>16351828
if you claim something exists, and you want others to believe it, you have to prove it to them

why would i abstain from some things and do others for an entity that might or might not exist?

[Jesus No.16352792]

>>16349503
prove existence of your own idea of God? your straw man? it is like deaf dude asks evidence for existence of music.

[Anonymous No.16352894]

>>16349280
Yes, people don't realize that faith requires a basic predisposition in which your desires are momentarily suspended in service of a higher truth. These people don't recognize other truths but what their most inferior passions demand.

[Anonymous No.16352925]

Any good starting point for theology?

[Anonymous No.16352949]

>>16349166
But a lot of important theologians are women

[Anonymous No.16352956]

>>16352949
Name 10.

[Anonymous No.16353002]

>>16352894
You don't do God justice by simply calling him energy. It is inhuman. To suck the spark out of life is to suck the energy out of life. It sucks God out of life. It sucks life out of life. It is dull, stagnant, and dead. It does not have life for it has no father.
God fucked your mother the Earth then he spilled his life essence in her dry crusty hole and out came your sorry ass.
Science is not only playing catch-up with religion, but is born of religion. Religion is the father of science.

[Anonymous No.16353119]

>>16352949
Good joke

[Anonymous No.16353140]

>>16349472
based

[Anonymous No.16353212]

>>16353002
t.

[Anonymous No.16353823]

>>16349166
i can tell you are really awful and annoying. "why can't the normies access god like i can. i'm great."

[Anonymous No.16354254]

>>16349166
I would say that they do. They just follow religions of scientism and new age, usually a some sort of mix of the two. Why tehy don't read older religions is because they really don't wonder things that aren't spoonfed to them.

[Anonymous No.16354436]

>>16349280
Love to hear people preach humility while spouting nothing but self-aggrandizing trash. It's clear how superior to everyone you feel just because you never managed to so much as sniff what companionship is like.

[Anonymous No.16354464]

>>16354436
>It's clear how superior to everyone you feel just because you never managed to so much as sniff what companionship is like.
What causes this?

[Anonymous No.16354547]

>>16349280
holy mother of truth

[Anonymous No.16354599]

>>16354436
>all spiritual discontent and vertical striving stems from not having enough warm and fuzzies via transient relationships
the mind of a hylic

[Anonymous No.16354611]

>>16354436
>you're wrong because you haven't had sex
Why do women think this is an argument?

[Anonymous No.16354620]

>>16354611
For low-value women sex is the only bartering chip they have.

[Anonymous No.16354640]

>>16350437
You've early never been to a muslim country

[Anonymous No.16355074]

>>16349546
Asceticism, humility, and sacrifice aren't exactly exclusive to Christianity or even the Abrahamic family of religions.

[Anonymous No.16355082]

>>16352956
Hildegard of Bingen
Julian of Norwich
Catherine of Siena
Teresa of Avila
Therese of Lisieux
Elizabeth of the Trinity
Caryll Houselander
Dorothy Day
Sr. Momiji
Mother Teresa

[Anonymous No.16355088]

>>16350444
>hasn’t been on twitter recently

[Anonymous No.16355143]

>>16352925
The Bible.

[Anonymous No.16355159]

>>16349280
Wow. Accurate.

[Anonymous No.16356090]

>>16350424
this. tradcats whose shelves are made up of far right larp bullshit and more god stuff feeling special for reading the bible and practicing epic morals. i know one in real life, he bitches and whines about hedonism and promiscuity and nationalism but is a sexless and addicted to amphetamines

[Anonymous No.16356097]

>>16349280
beyond based

[Anonymous No.16356100]

>>16349166
>t. not a doctor of the Church

[Anonymous No.16356110]

>>16349280
dangerously based and true

[Anonymous No.16356117]

>>16349280
>all the women I know are arthoes and I've never heard of female mystics therefore rant
Why are the most haughty posters on this board always the most uncultured and illiterate?

[Anonymous No.16356123]

>>16356117
touched a nerve then?

[Anonymous No.16356150]

>>16349166
Women are way more likely than men to be religious though.