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What is your strangest or most unconventional belief?

>> No.16342344
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>>16342331
Automeganophilia

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>>16342331
Planes are cute

>> No.16342365

>>16342358
That plane is drinking water? Wtf

>> No.16342370

>>16342331
Niggers are as capable as normal people.

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I don&t like cats unless they behave like dogs, which i think some are capable of.

>> No.16342394

>>16342331
The Amish may have to eventually be destroyed

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I have quite a few

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>>16342390
Turkish Van cats are as soft as bunnies and super affectionate almost like doggos.

>> No.16342413

I believe if I make a specific combination of words I can make the reader die instantly. Everyone has a unique combination that just kills them. I've spent 15 years on 4channel trying this.

>> No.16342422

>>16342413
The spa attendant applied the deep cleaning mask to the gentleman’s back.

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>>16342413
Sort of like that whole brown note myth but more ostentatious

>> No.16342435

I doubt it’s all that strange or unconventional, but I unironically think that the internet was a mistake. They should have kept it for government usage only. At the very most, allowed PhD’s to use it.
It’s one of those things where it needs to be extremely heavily regulated or not regulated at all.

>> No.16342442

>>16342435
Do you think there's any chance of going back now?

>> No.16342444

>>16342435
>They should have kept it for government usage only.
Go deeper.

>> No.16342446

Betting markets can be the basis of a superior organizational structure for decision-making in companies and states

>> No.16342452

>>16342444
Ok daddy

>> No.16342457

>>16342331
I'm doomed to become Bartleby.

>> No.16342487

>>16342435
I agree we haven't fully opened our eyes to some of the more harmful aspects of Internet and digital culture. A pet topic of mine is the exploitative nature of parasocial relationships in an age where loneliness seems to be spreading like an epidemic.

>> No.16342500

I am never going to die. There is no opportunity for me to live my life differently because of this. This is not a language game. This is not a spiritual matter. It is a matter of "positioning". I am not alone in this, but I am in the minority. I would not consider this a talent, as I have no control over it. I would not consider myself "immortal".

>> No.16342519

>>16342500
Your death is the only thing you own.

>> No.16342546

Trans women are women. My understanding of the difference between gender and sex has brought me to this conclusion.

>> No.16342559

>>16342546
What languame game is this?

>> No.16342589

>>16342487
>A pet topic of mine is the exploitative nature of parasocial relationships in an age where loneliness seems to be spreading like an epidemic.

the culture and massive amounts of money involved in onlyfans is mindboggling to me. essentially women being set up for life by selling mediocre smut.

>> No.16342619

>>16342589
The smut is really secondary to the real product being sold: human contact. It's not just porn, it's porn of a woman you've spoken to, albeit online. She gives you that brief hit of attention and confirmation. Same reason people bankrupt themselves giving to streamers so they can feel part of a group and have their name read out out by the streamer.

>> No.16342627

>>16342546
Have sex and dilate

>> No.16342653

>>16342487
Thanks for putting this into words. Reddit, TikTok, Twitter are purposefully designed to keep you on the app, and keep you coming back to the app, just for their own revenue and growth.
No one at the top cares about the lost productivity and lost dreams of its users. Instead of truly being helpful for its users to fulfill their potential, they steal life for a little bit of money for the few.
Certain streamers give me bad vibes too (when I tuned in regularly to a small drawing channel over 3 weeks), e.g. a streamer openly laughing to her friend about her viewers being 'simps.'

If you're lucky, your family will be there for you. Even luckier, a friend or even two (I had neither to my surprise, after a depressing situation).
Ender's Game was right. You have to be there for yourself and not rely on anyone else to save you, and recognize parasocial relationships as false and exploitative.

>> No.16342671

>>16342519
Ever read those WWII/Vietnam War memoirs? I believe you don't own your death.
Infantrymen got drafted, deployed to a jungle, pinned down by artillery. Whoever got hit and killed, or didn't and survived, was due to pur luck.
Same thing as paratroopers getting blown up while still on the plane ahead of the D-Day beach landings. Or suddenly getting shot, today, by a bullet from your neighbour's negligent discharge of a rifle.
You can't always choose how you die, and it can be messy.

>> No.16342677

>>16342331
>>16342406

I have next to none besides that all dykes on this board should be purged with immediacy

>> No.16342686

>>16342331
Video games make you sharp and intelligent while movies, film, "cinema" whatever make you passive and lazy.

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>>16342677
>I have next to none besides that all dykes on this board should be purged with immediacy
Banal evil

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>>16342546

>> No.16342703

>>16342686
Both make you passive and lazy. Creating video games and creating cinema makes you worthy and active.

>> No.16342707

>>16342331
I will lose my virginity

>> No.16342751

>>16342703
there is nothing worthy in creating something wholely negative, as you claim them to be.

>> No.16342766

>>16342751
Domination. Not to be dominated.

>> No.16342779

>>16342686
It sounds like you got bullied on /tv/ for not agreeing films are more intellectually stimulating than video games but both are probably equally useless

>> No.16342803

>>16342331
god is a metaphysical slime-mold comprised of "the dead"

>> No.16342810

>>16342803
I like this and I'm not gonna think too hard about it.

>> No.16342833

>>16342422
aaaagh

>> No.16342840

>>16342692
weird question for you? How do people explain the concept of evil I have never really understood it from their pov.

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>>16342546
BASED

>> No.16343193

>>16343191
chad

>> No.16343391

>>16342331
Music from the 00s to early 10s is the best humanity's ever had by a very large margin.

>> No.16343411

>>16342653
Do you think 4chan has the same disasterous consequences?
I only come on here to discuss ideas and shit fling on walls to see what sticks.

The quality of this website has seriously declined though.

>> No.16343434

>>16342546

But it's confusing when the word "women" loses a lot of relevant meaning. Communication is about sharing information.
A Trans woman communicating "I want you to see me as a woman" is over stepping some boundaries that are not personally against her but against grammar.
But sure just to make someone else happy I'll modify my behavior and assume that a woman can be reduced to superficial long hair, makeup and clothing with everything else being technically "not exactly woman." Feminism is so unnecessarily confusing!!
More importantly! From psychology we know that society influences how we want to express ourselves and a Trans woman born in another part of the world may not identify as a woman but maybe a third in between gender or something else entirely. If we're so enlightened, we should modify society so that Trans woman want to be themselves without being called women.

>> No.16343438

>>16342331
Whole world had to stop, so I could keep up. I'm referring to coronavirus.

>> No.16343444

>>16342331
North Korea is good and De Selby is the only philosopher that matters

>> No.16343470

>>16343193
Chadine

>> No.16343498

>>16342751

Kike

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>>16342331

Antediluvian civilizations achieved post-apotheosis tiers of technology and culture which is currently known and understood by a select few human beings.

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>>16342810
God is it's title, it's form is called "The Dead"

When we die, we become a single cell of God. Just a tiny, mindless thing. There's no fear, or sadness, or pain. We're just warm, forever. We don't know anything, don't understand, but it doesn't matter, because we belong to God, and God knows. God is a Slime Mold, and it's body is The Dead.

When people say 'The Dead', they're talking about us, too. When we die, we don't stop existing, we become a part of something. We exist, and even if the world forgets, even if no one notices, even if all the evidence of us having lived is erased, forever, the universe remembers, and we were here.

Oblivion isn't something to fear. It's a reward. A long sleep after a hard day's work. We won't be alone, or afraid. We'll be part of God, of it's slime-mold being, part of the dead.

>> No.16343559

>>16343434
>Feminism is so unnecessarily confusing!!
in what ways?

>> No.16343568

>>16342331
Scientology.

>> No.16343571

>>16342331
I'm antinatalist.

>> No.16343594

I've notice that a white female with brown vagina is more manly and built to whore, around. Man dick is always more dark than his body that why a dark body is more dominant beucase penis is most dominant, no it not a cope, a dark vagina in white woman is sign that woman fuck more than 5000 dude in the last 1000 years heritage, white woman with brown vagina, A whore. because women cant be men.

>> No.16343650

>>16343594
t. virgin with lots of porn "experience"

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>>16342331
I reject capitalism and believe that resource-based economy is the way to go for humanity. I also believe everyone who disagrees to be a bugman brainlet.

>> No.16343672

>>16342331
Both dogs and cats are awful pets, but out of those two at least cats have some autonomy, whereas dogs are truly pitiful creatures and I feel sorry for them, and only 10 year old girls and old, lonely people should have them. If you are older than a teenager and get a dog, you are pathetic.

>> No.16343675

>>16342413
oh shit nigger i'm dying

>> No.16343695

>>16342331
"Meaning is a pointless idea for faggots who need a guiding hand in their life."

I know, not a big hot take but over time I noticed just how common to search for it is, even among non-believers in gods and other magical shit.

>>16342370
>>16342546
Based.

>>16342446
Pretty interesting but seeing how often they get shit wrong too I'm not sure it is correct.

>>16342803
>>16343545
This sounds silly but also kinda cool and I want to steal the idea for a story. Thanks!

>> No.16343699

>>16343695
>This sounds silly but also kinda cool and I want to steal the idea for a story. Thanks!
aw, you bitch!

>> No.16343708

Suffering is necessary and a good. It is the human constant. Anyone who avoids suffering is not truly human and should be brought into the fold by force.

>> No.16343710

I believe the League of Legends algorithm is designed to keep me (and specifically me) from climbing out of platinum

>> No.16343795

"Feminism" is actually nothing but the tacit and progressive rejection of feminity and men started it millenia ago when they refused to respect feminity and instead abused their masculine virtues to subjugate and commodify it and its natural bearers.
Why the fuck wouldnt women end up coveting masculine power when their own virtues were trampled and desecrated like that?

>> No.16343808

>>16343391
uber cringe

>> No.16343810

>>16342435
I agree humanity is not prepared for Internet yet

>> No.16343838

Nothing major. Probably just a bunch of stuff about jews and so forth. That life is a double helix. That nature has elements of absurdism.

Also that music is appealing because it represents life, ie. simple introduction, exciting build up, peak and crescendo, then flitter down into silence.

That society is collapsing.

>> No.16343848

>>16342331
I don't believe I have a human soul. I believe I have successfully connected with spirits and my soul is more animal than human.
Yeah, I know it sounds like otherkin or wolfaboo larp but sadly I am being honest. This happened since I was very little too.

>> No.16343862

>>16342435
I disagree, but people 15 years ago had much more sense when it came to the internet. All the old mantras of not posting real info was destroyed when social media became a thing

>> No.16343865

>>16343559

Feminism is dope but if I'm profiling it I would say it captures a sort of innocence of womanhood that needs a man's touch. Feminism wants us to rethink the frameworks which we work in. Which is fine but the reason we ended up in a patriarchy-framework was not out of pure conscious effort but also natural need.
We have to consider alternative frameworks but we can't discard the natural need that ties everything together.
The natural need is mysterious and it's hard to distinguish from the mere possible. That's why it's easy to lump everything as patriarchy and/or nature. Patriarchy has been the most successful framework thus far when considering the "real world." By the mere fact that we're talking right now under these pretenses. It shows that the framework we're using (with all the genocide, war, corruption, alienation) is objectively the most productive.
As an alternative, Feminism asks us to be less selfish and greedy with our value system and to understand alternative views. Like a perpetual curious agnostic. Going back to the Trans woman issue. If the agnostic goes into a bar and overhears someone talk about a woman, in a patriarchy the agnostic doesn't exist. The agnostic has to be a follower of the patriarchal definition of woman. In a Feminist utopia the agnostic can exist as someone that recognizes woman as an incomplete term. If the agnostic wants to know more about this woman, they have to engage in discourse. Right off the bat, Feminism encourages more crtitical thinking but it does so from a point of not being sure of something. Which is confusing. The part of natural need comes back again because in a confused state you may be vulnerable or in danger. That's why guys don't like being confused and Feminism asks us to be vulnerable. Whereas the patriarchy has made us overprotective and neurotic but safe.

>> No.16343941

>>16342331
I believe I am the reincarnation of Hegel.

>> No.16343960

>>16342331
The agricultural “revolution” and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>> No.16343971

BLACK PEOPLE ARE FROM SPACE

>> No.16343984
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>What is your strangest or most unconventional belief?
I believe /lit/ should be for /lit/ discussion, not politics or philosophy, or meta-discussion of personalities, or twitter-posting, or soi, or frogs, etc., etc.. I believe anons should grow up already.

>> No.16344064

there is nothing gay about being attracted to passable traps

>> No.16344198

>>16343594
It's all because of more blood vessels and nerve endings concentrated in the small area which make it easily aroused.

>> No.16344210

>>16343838
cringe

>>>/pol/

>> No.16344226

>>16343971
Jews are from space and black people are spaceship janitors. It's well known fact.

>> No.16344237

Semen retention is real.

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>>16342331

>> No.16344423

Women are ill fitted to do anything besides being pregnant, taking care of babies and, as a side effect, creating community.
Any other activity they undertake that is not somewhat related to these, will result in heartache for them and dissolution for society. Thus, men have to reign over them with an iron fist. Otherwise everything goes to shit.
As it's happenning.

>> No.16344601

>>16342331
I believe I can speak two foreign languages and fool people into believing I'm a native from their own countries

>> No.16344796

>>16343710
i believe fifa has some sort of dynamic mode that switches favoring sides during a game whenever i play 1v1 with my friend

>> No.16344845

>>16342331
Solipsism.

>> No.16344852

>>16344845
Retard

>> No.16344960

>>16342546
enlighten me on the language game. Most languages didn't have those two distinct words until adopting gender because of American cultural influence. Is sex the sex of the body and gender the sex of the soul? If they are independent and in disharmony, why don't we think of that as mental illness? Shouldn't we try to find the mental causes and possible therapy that leads to bring the mind's perception of sex back in harmony with the biological one. Psychological change seems easier to achieve than half-assed dangerous physical change.

>> No.16344994

>>16343411

I’m going 15 years on and off on here. Nigger. Have you been here for 15 years? The first day of 4chan some dumb kike said the same thing. Nothing has changed except your moms pussy is more rancid now.

>> No.16344996

>>16342435
The internet was the biggest mistake in the history of mankind. We are on the brink of living in true fucking Hell.
Watch 'The Social Dilemma' for a normie-tier introduction to why it's so bad

>> No.16345004

>>16344852
Simulation theory is very convincing. Plus, artificial intelligence wouldn’t have real sentience. I would simply make act the same as a human. It seems more likely to me that Im in a simulation, but also real.

>> No.16345085

>>16342457
Not if you prefer not to

>> No.16345092

>>16342457
Hope that helped (:

>> No.16345124

>>16342331
I actually believe in God -heart mind spirit soul

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>>16342442
no.
>>16343862
The nature of it is inherently destructive. I love it, I want it to be a good thing very very badly. But it's not.
>>16342487
>A pet topic of mine is the exploitative nature of parasocial relationships in an age where loneliness seems to be spreading like an epidemic
That's one of mine as well. Another one of my pet projects is the development of bottom up beliefs as opposed to top down. Instead of becoming informed by established social hierarchies, we get collective global info and are no longer locally focused. Additionally competing narrative environments lower the bar for ease of access in an attempt to gain and attract new followers. Twitter is a great example of this, as you must fit your points into 120 characters. This boils complex ideologies down to their most basic principles while getting rid of any nuance. It alters your perception, and quite literally rewires your brain. Perception is not a word I throw around lightly, perception is a function of awareness. A tool. Your attention/perceptual assessing machine can be altered. All it does is interpret symbolic representations. It is malleable. Do not forget this. Pic related is an example.
This technology has the potential to become exceedingly dangerous and we do not understand it, and we are letting children play with it.

>> No.16345142

>>16344994
I've been here 6 years on and off.
I spend more times reading the archives than i do reading the threads here

>> No.16346122

>>16342331
I think something like the patriots AI from MGS2 is humanity's only hope of governing ourselves in an equitable and sustainable way. Human beings are too retarded and prone to corruption so no people-led form of government can ever work, whether it's democratic or otherwise.

>> No.16346134

>>16345142
Hm could it be confirmation bias?

>> No.16346205

>>16346134
I don't think so, the old threads just seem to have more substance.
I think the accessibility and popularity of 4chan these past few years have resulted in a deterioration in post quality.

>> No.16346730

>>16343434
The confusion and internal inconsistencies are deliberate. When you are confused you are less confident in asserting your own morality. You submit to their worldview because most of your experience with confusion is in the context of something too technically complicated or outside of your experience. The 'culture war' ideas are neither, but they are deliberately incoherent so that people can be deceived into thinking they have been unaware of some secret field of knowledge.

>> No.16346779

>>16346122
Somehow it would need to be a governing system that is never static and is always in flux, as is the condition of universe and our existence (and it would need to somehow be a society wherein everyone is entirely willingly participating with this completely).

>> No.16346794

>>16343984
I dream that one day, there will be a site, where all the best minds of the chans will migrate to and discuss literature, philosophy, political theory, and history on separate boards.

>> No.16346838

>>16342331
I think it's somewhat depressing that home-engineering/inventing isn't everybody's hobby. Why do we have to wait for STEM fucks to bring about technological change in the world? Especially nowadays where unis and such are shoving their cocks in the koolaid with "diversity hiring." I bet a lot of people could make their own drones in their backyard. Amplifiers and pedals for instruments. Distillery columns for brewing beer. Fuck it, distillery columns for oil processing. That kinda stuff.

I dunno. Maybe I just want to live in a world where everybody is constantly making cool stuff.

>> No.16346858

>>16346838
Join your local hacker/maker space.

>> No.16346885

>>16346838
>make their own drones in their backyard. Amplifiers and pedals for instruments. Distillery columns for brewing beer.
All of those are already somewhat popular hobbies.
But it will always be dwarfed in coolness by the high-tech stuff only states and big corporations can produce. How much cooler than a stealth fighter jet can you get?

>> No.16346886

>>16346730

I know. See my response to something in that vain >>16343865

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>>16342331
im starting to disociate with reality and everything i see is pointing to the universe being a construct of my mind, i feel as though things happen just for me. no one is "real" and im a god locked in my own sad mockery. imprisoned by myself so i dont feel so alone. despite my better judgement i can't escape this feeling that all of reality is just a dream.

>> No.16346933

>>16342331
Once we start leaving this planet for another, free travel will be a guarantee. Everyone will start working together and world peace will be achieved until infighting starts and we destroy ourselves.
Meanwhile on Mars, we will start building walls and separating ourselves by nationality again. Space Wars will be fought over land on Mars, and we will see the end to many smaller countries.

Humans are the worst.

>> No.16346950

>>16342413
lmao

>> No.16347008

>>16346885
What if individuals can't make high-tech widgets simply because individuals lack the experience in doing so because the majority of individuals aren't engineers? I bet churning out fighter jets/drones could be done quite easily if automation was a more developed discipline.

>> No.16347134

I believe that life is a vision seen in death. When we die, the vision drops, but the basic condition persists. Think of it as two overlapping meshes through which light is shone, the second mesh being partially blocked so that it only lets through light at certain points. Both meshes rotate so light only shines through certain holes of mesh 2 from mesh 1 in certain positions. Each time a cell in mesh 1 lines up with an open space in mesh 2 a vision of life occurs. That is only an image and not the idea itself. Some poet once said that life is a window. That says it more succinctly perhaps.

>> No.16347165

I’m not afraid of death because I believe that on an infinite scale of time, events MUST transpire to machinate my resurrection. Trillions of years from now my consciousness will return.

>> No.16347287

>>16342331
Intelligence and education are overrated, but tend to be useful if you don't value them for themselves. In intellectual pursuits, enjoyment and personal enlightenment are more important than status, usefulness, or even correction, truth and morality.

Most religious practice is, at the higher levels, spiritual capitalism, ie, accumulating blessings and hoarding holy knowledge and paraphernalia. At the lower levels it is simply a superior form of sociability with practical long terms advantages for communities. As such it is just as conventional as most sociability, which makes it both more harmless than atheists think it, and less profound than religious apologist tell it.

Intellectual and religious movements are product of historical contingency and semi-reasonable (more that rational) compromise over time. In this area as in others, we tend to overestimate what we control and what we can know.

The system we live in is monstrously fucked on fundamental level but mostly decent on individual level for a sizable chunk of people. It's all a matter of negotiation with yourself and your environment.
You have to learn to live with the fact that you're complicit with horror and blasphemy every second you breath. This is compatible with what we call being a good person. This is also nothing new, the issue dates back from before our apish ancestors.

Most our existential certainties are empirical in grounding if not in nature, so are most of our axioms, methods and rational tools of inquiry.

There's a fundamental circularity to all human endeavor. Everything we do amounts to a circlejerk, the question is whether we value the things we are jerking about. In consequence foundational questions are bound to end in either narrow-scope autism or sterility, when not both. Nihilism in particular is refusal to accept that circular nature as the legitimate and natural state of affairs.

We are not that different from animals.
Most of our epistemic problems (concerning animals, but also anything else), stems from the lack of absolute foundation, and from the inability to get a proper sense of scale. Being biased and prejudiced is the very foundation of our ability for knowledge, prejudice is in a sense justifiable and often even good, as long as it is not excessively self-reinforcing.

Almost all human phenomena, fields and behavior have their own form of logic. This logic is deceptive more often than not, even when it is formally correct.

We are mostly not individuals. What we are is bigger than our persons, but also less unique than personality suggests. "Life is not personal" as Deleuze says -that's mostly true.

>> No.16347295

>>16343571
Isn't the fact that you have yet to kill yourself proof that you consider life more valuable than death? So why do you want to deprive potential humans of the very thing that you claim to detest but refuse to give up?

>> No.16347306

>>16342413
Have you ever thought how unlikely you are to hit such a sentence at random? You should try to understand better what makes people die.
Also everybody knows that to kill people over 4chan the proper methods is sixts.

>> No.16347316

>>16342619
This. They don't really want the simile of sex all that much (there's free porn for that, enough for a lifetime). They want the simile of attention and care, a need you can't sate just by masturbating.

>> No.16347322

>>16342413
We should generalize this into memetic hazards. Do memetic hazards exist? Is Roko's Basilisk a memetic hazard or just a meme-tier thought experiment?

>> No.16347352

>>16346794
Make that site now anon.

>inb4 you discover that /lit/ is still mostly teenager posting about Nietzsche and Joyce, /his/ is still obsessed with haplogroups, etc.

I fear that even 100% on-topic, sincere posting won't save us from the memetics and the retardation of 4chan. It'll be retardation without tongue-in-cheek humor and obvious trolling, but it'll be retardation nonetheless.
I unironically had better discussions of literature and history in bars than on /lit/. I even met an actual historian once.

>> No.16347357

>>16347008
You underestimate how many subtasks it takes to make a barely functioning fighter jet. Drones are orders of magnitude easier.

>> No.16347376

>>16347322
It's certainly the latter, but it might turn out to be true just by coincidence. I'm not betting on it though.

>> No.16347706

>>16346838
A lot of people do this but not everyone can due to the time commitment and how specialized home things have gotten

>> No.16347769

>>16343695

how old are you?

>> No.16347799

>>16347165
Will feel like the blink of an eye if you're fully unconscious over that great interval..

>> No.16347812

>>16347295
The question of antinatalism is never about suicide, this argument is fallacious. The one who exist already exist. It is not about natalism or antinatalism anymore. The question is only about the potential existence, before the life and the death. And this potential existence is not necessary.

>> No.16347823

>>16347295
You do not deprive anything to non existence.

>> No.16347840

>>16342331
The Jews forced Britain’s entry into WW1. I don’t believe in any other jew conspiracy.

>> No.16348024

>>16347812
>>16347823
I haven't looked into antinatalism much, but the basic argument is that it is immoral to bring new life into existence because that life will experience suffering, right? Is the fact that a person will experience any amount of suffering at all pretext enough for believing that new life shouldn't be conceived, or is it just because there is the possibility of living a life where the suffering outweighs the happiness?

>> No.16348113

>>16342435
agreed. though I think the internet exacerbated already existing problems that were created by the first mass media. simulacra and simulation get more and more applicable every day. The internet did also create some problems o fits own of course, such as the epidemic of social isolation among younger generations (especially young men). like many of my problems with the modern world though, it seems like we're already too far gone.

>> No.16349044

Women lack self awareness

>> No.16349362

>>16342331
I don't have one. I think people posting in this thread are just trying to cope with their loneliness tho.
I'm pretty sure 95% of the people who wrote in this thread thought something up just to feel rewarded since they don't get social rewards otherwise. Myself included.

Also, why do people from /pol/ come here these days. This thread was comfy before. Now it's just people arguing against religion or whatever. I can't help to scream nigger in my head when I see a black person.

>> No.16349421
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>>16347840
WW2 was a continuation of the same war and inevitable, the international economic order would inevitably make "Britain" and eventually "America" (zombies controlled by financial elites) globally dominant. The only option was to rebel against that order by trying to create a counter order.

WW2 was mostly about this. Everyone knew it then, nobody knows it now, not even people who specialize in it. Everything else is window dressing, on the same level as "we went to Iraq to spread democracy."

>> No.16349721

>>16342344
Explain?

>> No.16350065

>>16349721
it's a waifu gimmickposter

>> No.16350568

>>16349362
/pol/tards have infected every board sadly

>> No.16350694

>>16342331
I think white people should be destroyed, I'm white and I hate non-whites.

>> No.16350719

>>16342390
fuckin fag

>> No.16350722

>>16350694
Elaborate

>> No.16350726

>>16347769
27+

>> No.16350796

>>16350722
There was a point in time following the conclusion of WW2 when America had the nuclear bomb and no-one else did. They didn't use it, that was a mistake.

Modern whites are the most dysgenic group that ever existed, every moment of our continued existence is a humiliation, one that tarnishes the dignity of the past while at the same time is also a constant diminishing of said existence. No other group in all of human history wielded the power, influence, privilege, or potential that white Europe and America did at their respective zeniths in the 20th century. But they have spent all of that on their own degradation and replacement, whites have transformed their own death into a virtue. As for our lives, they are but a petty psychological war whose contradictions and torments are meaningless against a foregone conclusion. And so I'd sooner whites just be killed and replaced as soon as possible, the idea of voluntarily sacrificing your people and heritage is totally repulsive to me. It's also better than the potential alternative of surviving as some minority abroad and at home and being subservient to groups you once subjugated and had the power to totally extirpate. I have no illusions about superiority, any group that destroys itself should be destroyed. I just have a profound distaste for what has amounted to superiority in our world.

>> No.16350811

>>16350796
I deleted most of my post, it was becoming some kind of biblical tirade once I started talking about Esau and Isaac. I hope it makes sense enough.

>> No.16350828

>>16344996
That's a take on the level of "agriculture was a mistake".

>> No.16351026

>>16342331
4chan is the island from LOST.

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>>16343695
What about meaning that is at least partially subjective? Such as a person behaving ethically is dependent upon their pursuit of their loftiest and least debased appetites? I.e., objective morality yet subjective meaning.

Mine
>God is whatever force that created the universe out of either madness, boredom, or hubris. I.e., the demiurge literally exists

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>>16342358
drinking planes itt

>> No.16351556

Methamphetamine is not all that harmful (neither mentally nor somatically). Speaking from a 5-year experience.

>> No.16351592

>>16346205

Fair point but what I’ve always loved about 4chan is how you can immediately connect with real people. Regardless how sick or stupid they are. Maybe the content is more dispersed now and lodged between rising amounts of name calling but I see quality stuff still. The internet has changed a lot but for more formal stuff there’s probably other websites.

>> No.16351599

>>16342331
Syndicalism is unironically a good system.

>> No.16351645

>>16351515
It sounds reasonable and practical but still very much like a cope. I don't mind which meaning people choose for themselves (and don't think it's my place to tell them they are wrong), it's just the desire for meaning in the first place that makes me cringe a bit. Why the fuck would one look for the deeper meaning in a story? Why can't the flowers be just pretty flowers? And sure, this need to categorize and qualify shit is probably very human but it also feels like focusing on the forest instead of appreciating the trees.

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>>16351645
Using your metaphor, I'd say it's reasonable and very human to care about the forest and the trees. The way you've phrased it, stopping to admire the pretty flowers itself does sound meaningful. And importantly that in no way contradicts and in fact enhances ant other "greater" levels of meaning we seek and hopefully find. So i dont think it's cope, both abstract and concrete sources of human flourishing have intrinsic value.

>> No.16351989

>>16342370
because normal people are also incapable?

>> No.16352294

>>16342500
>It is a matter of "positioning"
sup fellow soul

>> No.16352306

I believe that there is some way to unlock the minds potential via meditation and lucid dreaming, where I can study and recall things that during my waking hours I cannot. I have yet to unlock this power, if anyone has any books on the subject it would be greatly appreciated.

>> No.16352357

>it's a thinly-veiled schizo thread
everytime

>> No.16353131

>>16346730
interesting, so dating is like minesweeper now?

>> No.16353198

Saw some people earlier in this thread talking about the Internet being a mistake, and how we are blind to some of the more harmful aspects of our digital lives. Got me thinking about how neets or robots of ages past could exist. Today there is an boundless world of digital distraction to escape into. Pure unbridled escapism. But what about before? You got nothing going for you in life. You wake up and do what all day? Surely being forced to be alone with your thoughts in ways you can entirely dodge today meant that you eventually got yourself together.

>> No.16353267

>>16353198
Even getting into the situation would be pretty hard. Besides the biggest issue with stereotypical NEETs is their lack of social skills, which comes from being able to waste away. The only people who were NEETs back in the day, were richfags who socialized with other richfags and prostitutes.

>> No.16353359

>>16353267
I have identity problems every time I have a good interaction I think I got it. I try to be social again but politics are too dynamic and each person is unique and expects different things. I talk, make them awkward and then back to step 1

>> No.16353363

>>16345142
You’re the dumb equivalent of a teenager who thinks he was born on the wrong generation. Of course past eras of this shithole will seem better if you handpick the better threads to read, you dumbass. There’s an endless stream of shit threads you ignore. There’s no denying 4chan has been politically infiltrated after 2016 but if you stay away from politics, this Mongolian seaweed analysis forum is the same sometimes better than before

>> No.16353384

>>16353363
You can stay away from politics but they won't stay away from you. There is some incel or /pol/ak waiting around the corner to shit up a thread.

Back in the days, specially before 2014 the site nor specific boards never was nearly as shit as it is now. The shitposters were just the "lol, I'm trolling" types instead of drones.

>> No.16353396

>>16342546
>the difference between gender and sex
The former being the delusional brain-body dichotomy theorem of a hack pedophile kike, and the latter being actually observable fact?

>> No.16353457

>>16353396
Tranny brains are observably closer to their real gender than to their cis one. BEFORE you throw hormones at them.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm

>> No.16353487

That at least 70% of all humans must be wiped out in the next 100 years by a weaponized virus and a global 2 child policy must be implemented or humanity will die out in 500 years.

>> No.16353497

>>16342331
The Shroud of Turin is probably real

>> No.16353532

>>16350796
You’re mistaking whites with jews. No, I’m not a /pol/ack. Yes, this is a fact.

>> No.16353541

>>16353384
>There is some incel or /pol/ak waiting around the corner to shit up a thread.
Ignore them and move on. It’s not difficult. If you’re in a quality thread, most posters will ignore the shit-flinging everything-is-politics retard.

>> No.16353549

>>16353457
Brains don't determine gender identity. I thought you guys weren't essentialists.

>> No.16353563

>>16352306
read Gurdjieff

>> No.16353573

>>16353497
It literally is? Are you referring to something else?

>> No.16353586

>>16342413
>>16342422
This is fucking reta

>> No.16353591

>>16353541

>mfw I’m both types of poster
>yfw everyone is that type of poster

Faggot kike

>> No.16353690

>>16353457

It’s been proven that trannies want to be women because of the role women perform in society. That’s why trans is performative and womanhood is descriptive. Fundamentally different concepts. The funny thing is that in other societies where the role of women is different, trannies still want to be different but not a woman because the performative ideals the trannies want aren’t found in the woman’s role in that society. So they just psychologically adopt some other identity disorder where they let out their anguish or whatever it is that troubles them.

>> No.16353905

Autists are angels who can't lie and Schizotypal Personality Disorder are fallen angels. Psychologists are Nephilim

>> No.16354450

>>16353905
take your meds

>> No.16354467

>>16342331
I am a bitheist.

>> No.16354473

With the exception of Don Quixote and Moby Dick everything I've read beyond Greco-Roman literature has been a waste of my time.

>> No.16354574

Inventors, scientists, and innovators don't play a very critical role in history and should not be admired as individuals.

>> No.16354897

>>16342331
Super Bowl is rigged.

>> No.16355014
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I believe that death should be really painful. If I were to choose how I would die I would pick self immolation. A lot of people think this is a weird stance but dying is potentially the last thing you'll ever feel so it may as well be intense. A painful death also would serve as a sort of penance that might help to absolve your sins. If you buy into that kind of thing.

>> No.16356398

>>16346889
this is a good thing anon, i was there once. It is best to never leave. watch as the walls of reality collapse around you, step outside what is real, literally step outside of the visible universe, walk into the astral plane

>> No.16356883

>>16342331
I just want everything to be automated. Labor, planning, resource allocation, even government to an extent. I just want to live that comfy Wildean socialist dream, where all the monotonous trivialities of life are taken care of and we can all be Bohemians. I don't care if it means that Xi Jinping owns the whole Earth, so long as I can finally enjoy a life that isn't spent working in jobs I don't care about for the sake of barely scraping by.

Also, I believe that fucking men and traps is the very apex of masculinity, which is why I have done it many, many times.

>> No.16356966

>>16349421
What did Hitler do to actually deprive financial elites of their profits?

>> No.16357170

>>16342331
I believe in the illuminati

>> No.16357621

>>16345142
Where can I find the archives

>> No.16357716

I think I was sent to this world to spread god's truth.

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kind of like >>16346889
I don't believe anything exists because it's just variations of that heap problem or an agreed upon delusion. There's just some great chaos incomprehensible to the human mind.
>If you have a heap of sugar, how much sugar can you remove until it's not a heap?
And life just seems full of these things that are never clearly defined. What's the functional difference between a book, booklet, pamphlet and page? If a burger is any sandwich containing a ground beef patty, how can I be sure there's not some undetectable amount of ground beef making every sandwich I've ever eaten a burger?

And then there's memes like money and language. These things literally only exist because people agree they do. Even names of things and people are just arbitrary, ordered sounds we make to try to communicate them to other people.

>>16342394
Elaborate

>> No.16357850

>>16354473
What's so appealing about Don Quixote?

>> No.16357890

>>16349721
He gets off on the idea of being Megan Boyle.

>> No.16357976

/lit/ was a always /shit/

>> No.16357990

I feel cinema is killing small time mediocre writers like me. I fucking hate cinema.

>> No.16358053

>>16346889
life has always been the waking dream.

Awaken. Be lucid.

>> No.16358812

>>16346889
this but its the most exciting thing of my otherwise dull and empty life.

>> No.16358822

>>16350796
You're reminding me of Lovecraft.

>> No.16358839

>>16356966
instilled currency not valued by international banks, but based on national "value", mostly by starting and incorporating many public projects like renovations, buildings or services

>> No.16358844

>>16350796
>It's also better than the potential alternative of surviving as some minority abroad and at home and being subservient to groups you once subjugated and had the power to totally extirpate.
Why? Every other race goes through cycles of power and subjugation. Why do whites alone have the arrogance and lack enough gracefulness in defeat to refuse to accept their (temporary) fate? You were barbarians long ago, and would still be barbarians if you were never Romanized.

>> No.16358856

>>16358844
and refuse*

>> No.16358858

>>16358844
I already answered this, what you say is true but no other group ever reached the apex whites did, conquering in a real sense the entire world or acquiring the ability to destroy all other groups or even the world itself. The uppermost crest of the wave of progress and power belongs only to them. It's very different for your empire to fall when it's but one of many empires, white hegemony was briefly uniquely absolute. Which makes their downfall all the more contemptible and pathetic. I detest every white person I know, particularly my parents and family, as is right.

>> No.16358917

>>16358858
>I already answered this, what you say is true but no other group ever reached the apex whites did, conquering in a real sense the entire world or acquiring the ability to destroy all other groups or even the world itself.
Idk man I'm not very historically literate but didn't the Persian Empire rule more than half the civilized world at its peak? Maybe you think white/European civilization is absolutely unique because you don't have much else to juxtapose it against. If whites were as supreme as you claim then they would have invented civilization before the meds instead of running around and worshiping trees like barbarians. Whites have an admirable penchant for climaxes, that is plainly observable, but its uniqueness is questioned. I don' think its fair of you to despise your entire race for failure, you should be more temperate of your judgement. Every other race has fallen due off their peaks due to decadence. Even if whites suffer a period of decline, it doesn't mean that they're done for or that they'll never revive. If you were truly a virtuous race, you would bear this period of decline with stoic patience and with an unerring resolve for eventual re-emergence. That would show admirable racial character, instead of the, quite frankly, brute and unrefined frustration you're expressing now. Have some more faith in your own latent power.

>> No.16358932

>>16358858
>>16358917
I'd also like to mention that the white race's prowess lies in the Anglo/Germanic engineering prowess. Northern European philosophy has always been weak and wanting if I'm being honest, but peaked with the Founding Fathers nonetheless. This weakness in ideology is what lead to your current downfall. How much of it is related to Christianity, or how it should be remedied, I don't think I have the authority to address as of yet. Certainly Eastern Christianity never developed the attitude of Western Christianity though I think. That should be considered.

>> No.16359010

>>16358917
>Idk man I'm not very historically literate but didn't the Persian Empire rule more than half the civilized world at its peak?
This is not at odds with my explanation or view. But just to substantiate...first off half the civilized world is not remarkable, you qualified it twice for a reason. During the 20th century the entire world was in control of either Europe or the US. Secondly many Persian Satrapies readily mutinied if and when it became necessary, such as the conquest of Alexander (most of which were forfeitures, as per my point). Can you really call that rule? The US could have annihilated the entirety of the USSR if they wanted, just for example, in the interim period where one had nuclear technology and the other did not. But the most salient point of disagreement here...
>If you were truly a virtuous race, you would bear this period of decline with stoic patience and with an unerring resolve for eventual re-emergence. That would show admirable racial character, instead of the, quite frankly, brute and unrefined frustration you're expressing now. Have some more faith in your own latent power.
Whites are not virtuous or admirable. That is the fundament of my view. They're some perverse equivalent of Pandas, refusing to fuck to continue their line DESPITE being pampered in zoos or preserves and divorced from all hardship in life. What could be worse than that? No amount of contempt could ever be enough. I'd kill every baby boomer with my own hands if I could but even if I did it would not alter the degenerate destiny embraced by these people.

>> No.16359027

>>16349421
Why the war against the soviets then?

>> No.16359032

>>16343391
literal retard

>> No.16359067

>>16359010
>Whites are not virtuous or admirable. That is the fundament of my view. They're some perverse equivalent of Pandas, refusing to fuck to continue their line DESPITE being pampered in zoos or preserves and divorced from all hardship in life. What could be worse than that? No amount of contempt could ever be enough. I'd kill every baby boomer with my own hands if I could but even if I did it would not alter the degenerate destiny embraced by these people.
It's natural not to fuck when you're pampered anon. It happens to everyone else too. The Romans had a real problem getting their women to make offspring when they were well off as well. Things correct with time and eventually conditions will be created that will allow the white race to manifest their virtues without inhibition. They will have to suffer a lot before this happens so they can finally become sensible again.

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>>16342331
Panentheism

>> No.16359159

>>16343651
How's the uphill battle to convince your parents you don't need to pay rent going?

>> No.16359374

>>16343391
post album chart, so I can laugh even harder

>> No.16359397

>>16342413
But how would you know you succeded?

>> No.16359601

>>16358858
How are whites a group? Planet earth isn't divided up into teams of races, at no point were whites (or any other race) united in any sense whatsoever
Team white didn't win the big game and went to rule the planet, this is not what happened

>>16350796
They did use nukes on non-whites and I don't think using more of them would have solved the problems

>> No.16360418

>>16343594
You are suffering from a phenomenon known as "coombrain"

>> No.16360467

I don't think women like men as much as men like women. In a sexual sense.

>> No.16360724

>>16360467
no shit, when did you come up with that one genius

>> No.16360769

>>16342406
My mom has one, well we assume it’s one because it’s a rescue. She’s big and soft, all white except for a little grey on her head and tail. She’s not super friendly though :(
She lets you pick her up and hold her for a minute or so and then she’s done and goes off and does her own thing

>> No.16360781

>>16342331
I can't write a book because I refuse to use the same word twice.
I also can't fap in a room with a lot of a dead relative's memorabilia because I believe their "spirit" can see me fapping thru their stuff.

>> No.16360789

>>16342331
pp

>> No.16361037

>>16357990
I have a really good movie for u

>> No.16361380

There are foreign powers manipulating 4chan posts

>> No.16361391

Politics and Art are a waste of time and we'd all be better off living in a Singaporean style state.

>> No.16361408

>>16343960
Based

>> No.16361413

>>16360467
Men definitely need women more than the other way around. Guys fall apart without women most of the time.

>> No.16361430

>>16347287
Good post.

>> No.16361439

I believe that all beliefs are simultaneously true.

>> No.16361440

feel like we are sleepwalking into catastrophe, and there is absolutely no will to deceisively change our course. we're slaves to our own creations.

>> No.16361478

>>16361413
Weak minded men, because they don't know their self worth. It's a trick.

It is essential to be able to distinguish lust from love. Love is when one is able to love another person without expecting love in return. This is true love. Instead of waiting to be loved, learn to love.

As I said, you have to distinguish lust from love and there is nothing wrong with masturbating so that you don't become neurotic. Everyone is always exaggerating on this subject, but the truth is, you just shouldn't be overdoing it, as with all things. 1-2 times a week is fine and the rest should be about you and how you want to shape your life instead of wasting your thoughts on women who are not interested in you anyway.

You're really being ripped off. As a child you are still really enthusiastic about the things you like to do and just because of the women that shouldn't change. You should stop being a pussy and do what you feel like doing.

>> No.16361616

>>16361478
And there's no point in trying to figure out a negative world just because you're not satisfied with yourself.

Basically most of these posts are children problems, so to speak, they are problems that play an important role in pedagogy.
You can make anything sound nice and smart. That it sounds fitting and well thought out but in a negative way. Negativ fits this system so well and that's why you can make a lot of money with it. But the truth is it's childish and it's not bad. It would be rather bad if you deny it.

But what is that? You don't want to be a negative pussy, seriously.

Just stay positive and optimistic, that is worth striving for, I celebrate that

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>>16361478
>>16361616

>> No.16361734

>>16343795
pretty based take anon

>> No.16361775

>>16343971
I've been feeling pretty down today and this post made me crack up laughing so thanks for that, I needed it

>> No.16361794

>>16361775
U have to be pretty numb and depressed if that makes u crack up laughing.

>> No.16361868

>>16361775
you have unresolved racist tendencies
please consider some introspection or you will end up very lonely and very sad and probably in jail

>> No.16361945

>>16342331
It's not difficult to be kind and compassionate. It doesn't make you weak. Everyone would benefit from more kindness and compassion in their lives

>> No.16361967

>>16361945
based

>> No.16361995

>>16342589
You’re not buying porn, you’re buying a parasocial relationship

>> No.16362000

>>16343971
The Zulus actually believe they're from space

>> No.16362008

>>16349421
That's a fake quote tho.

>> No.16362020

>>16361868
>>16361794
oh please, I would've laughed just as hard if it were any other generalized group of humans. idk about that posters intentions, but I took it to be a satire of racism revealing the animalistic and absurd nature of racial prejudice.

>> No.16362029

>>16343545
Evangelion?

>> No.16362030

that jews and orcs are good people

>> No.16362038

>>16342331
The answer to the question why existence exists is humor

>> No.16362062

>>16361868
no your racist. Say you love Caucasians to prove us wrong

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>> No.16362125

>>16350694
>>16350796
Convert to Islam anon.
https://youtu.be/_x_hn-i9NPU
https://youtu.be/pCQ6sAso5ds
https://youtu.be/Zc2200Wh3Zw
https://youtu.be/07Ien1qo_qI
https://youtu.be/yg_tSM-f45E
I agree with you on everything, but "White" is just a title, a banner which was hoisted above Christendom towards the end of the 17th century- just as generation of great colonialists and adventurers which had brought Europe to the apex of her power was starting to wane. Whiteness is itself a symptom of the decline, the transmutilation of active becoming into passive being with an undeserved sense of superiority which is still driving the frankly suicidal tendencies of the white ruling class today.
"Whiteness" is a mind virus which European man doesn't, and never has, needed. It's the invention of a corrupt parliament which they used to usurp power from great individuals such as Robert Clive and James Douglas in the imagined interest of the 'white' collective.

>> No.16362302

>>16343710
>be me
>in promos for plat 3
>adc flashes for a melee minion
>dies 30 seconds later

>> No.16362444

>>16361380
everybody knows this ffs

>> No.16362494

>>16342413
in a lovecraftian kind of way, or convince someone to kill themselves kind of way?

>> No.16362681

I believe religion is a noble lie that must be kept up to preserve values and tradition in society.

God itself isn't a literal being, God is ultimate representation of goodness. All things that are good, represent 'Godness'. All things you do should please God (be good).

>The bible warns against sex before marriage
>the more sexual partners a woman has exponentially increases the chances of divorce.
>having two married parents is the single most ignorant factor when deciding the success of a child
>drug addicts, murderers, rapists, the majority come from single parent families

Therefore, if you have a society that believes in a literal God they are more likely to promote values that create a functioning society. It's already been proven that religious people live happier lives than atheists. However, without people believing in a literal God and Hell, the reason to follow the bible or religious text is lost. Therefore the facade must be maintained.

The bible represents a transcendent scripture that contains the moral truth that evolution created. Through natural selection, actions that benefited the tribe (such as helping your neighbour) propagated.
As the bible is the product of humans that evolved this mutually beneficial moral system, it is the text that has come the closest to illustrating the moral truth that humans have created. And as this moral system is ingrained in us through countless years of evolution, it is de facto moral truth as we live life subjectively through our minds and morality is inextricable.

>> No.16362725

>>16362681
You're so lost. Please shut the fuck up. People like you literally make me sick!

>> No.16362791

>>16362681
God is dead. Keep trying though. He might come back.

>> No.16362938

A significant minority of men should be dead by the age of 30, either through war, labor, or other sacrificial activities in pursuit of the advancement of society. We have evolved thus as a species.

>> No.16362956

>>16342331
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>16342413
based

>> No.16362966

>>16362791
if God was dead it would be necessary to resurrect him

>> No.16362975

>>16361439
this but the absolute opposite, all beliefs are simultaneously untrue

>> No.16362978

>>16362966
no need..look at Scandinavia

>> No.16363048

>>16343795
decent, I will paste it in my book

>> No.16363237

>>16362956
cringe

>> No.16363261

>>16363048
please stop, who cares?

>> No.16363282

>>16342413
I called someone online a nigger once and he killed himself a few days later so I think your theory is plausible.

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>>16342331
Shipgirls are a great literary device, they've just never been used properly.

>> No.16363320

>>16353563
>Gurdjieff
I tried and the one book I picked up was 3/4ths him telling me he was about to tell me something important and I just couldn't finish the damn book. And when I went back to finish it, my kindle had died.

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>>16342331

>> No.16363690

>>16362956
>What is your strangest or most unconventional belief?
>lol ted k posters successfully spook'd me

ted posting has been shutting up boards for years now, I dont think that's what OP was looking for ya daft cunt

>> No.16364155

>>16342331
I am neither a pagan larper of a radical atheist, but I sincerely believe that our downfall begun with the adoption of christianity.

>> No.16364227

>>16343510
This

>> No.16364473

>>16342331
I dont even think I have many unpopular opinions since most anons here usually agree. Closest I have is that religion is a lie, god can’t be personalized to one specific religion and that one specific religion cant happen to be the only correct one and everyone else is damned. The use for religion is to just keep masses in check and remind them what they need to be like to be good citizens. I have nothing against people who are in religion though but being able to see this lets me tell a lot about a person. Strangest one I have I suppose would be that I think every anon should seriously take the hermitpill. Its the only way we can survive the bullshit thats coming to us and any future bullshit coming our way. Any other route includes more strife and suffering than is necessary, going total hermit is difficult but should at least be attempted

>> No.16364488

>>16364155
You know I dont even hate Christianity and used to be christian but Im seriously starting to believe the same thing. Part of me screams out that christianity is part of the whole which is mostly true but I think adopting a semitic religion that isnt meant for your people and should honestly be stamped out and then rewriting it completely to make it more tolerable sounds like a fucking terrible idea and probably had way more than just a minor role in what happened in europa

>> No.16364513

>>16342331
That every single moment of my life from a period beginning during the final months before I turned 20 have been the exact same moment
I don't really know how to explain it but thats how i feel and a large part of me genuinely believes it

>> No.16364521

>>16342358
They are.

>> No.16364527

When I was in elementary school (kindergarten I believe), I used to think all my freckles would converge and I would become black.

>> No.16365219

>>16343941
I don't know why but this made me cry lauging

>> No.16365646

>>16343984
>>16346794

dont be silly

>> No.16365944

>>16343695
>Pretty interesting but seeing how often they get shit wrong too I'm not sure it is correct.
The point is not that they would be right all the time, but just better than what we have right now, where incentives are all mixed up. You think global warming is a lie, bet on it. You think defunding the police won't reduce violence, bet on it. You think creating property tax won't have an impact on the economy, bet on it. Most "opinions" on opposing sides of politics or corporate structures are just biased estimates that lead to policies that lead to advantages to people advocating them. Betting markets force people to separate facts from values, by betting on facts, letting the odds on the impact of important issues speak for themselves and then people can argue about the trade-offs.

>> No.16365966

I think "black people" are a universal constant in all intelligent species in the universe.
I believe that all intelligent species inevitably reach a bottleneck due to several factors:
>as population increases due to the ability of technology to sustain higher numbers, people in that population develop higher and higher senses of empathy and duty by necessity of keeping that society functional
>this empathy leads to the proliferation of a parasitic underclass as the society has its empathetic streak abused and stressed to the limits
>society is eventually crushed under the weight of this parasitic underclass as the very societal advancements that allow you to manage a massive world spanning civilization also leave you open to dysgenic groups parasitizing on society

This is the great filter.

>> No.16365974

>>16365944
Interesting, but doesn't it create issues with manipulating perceptions? If there is betting money on the table then everyone (not just media corporations or whatever) have an interest in propagating distorted information. Financial market already have that problem with purely financial assets (like the stock of a newly created company), where people can't even agree on whether the 'real value' of an asset is something that exists or can be defined. Why wouldn't it be the same for betting markets?

>> No.16366103

>>16365974
>Interesting, but doesn't it create issues with manipulating perceptions?
I think that's one of the most serious issues with the idea, and also the fact that some people would have incentives to see people getting killed or becoming unemployed. Perhaps limiting the upside for each person would be a way to circumvent this, but it is probably hackeable through derivatives on top of betting markets. Another point is that "manipulating perceptions" can be seen through two different ways - one is straight up lying (like fake data) which can be seen as a fraud and subject to criminal trial, the other is subtle influence -- and if you're the type that gets influenced by that kind of stuff you'll be naturally filtered out of betting markets because you're likely going bankrupt.

>where people can't even agree on whether the 'real value' of an asset is something that exists or can be defined. Why wouldn't it be the same for betting markets?
Betting markets have a closing condition (like indicator X in N years from now), it cannot go on indefinitely working on pure speculation. Another difference is that in financial markets the investment that you put in a company has an effect on that company's future, while in betting markets, putting money on some outcome shouldn't influence the outcome itself (I never saw a sports team win a game because markets were telling they would do so).

>> No.16366200

>>16366103
Just adding to that, for most decision making I think we wouldn't be using simple prediction markets such as the one in Predictit for example. The most powerful ones are *conditional prediction markets*, where people would be betting on some outcome but with one market for each condition (usually a decision) and where only one of these conditions gets materialized.

>> No.16366215

>>16342413
If you don't kill yourself right now your mother will die in her sleep tonight

>> No.16366253

>>16343191
What a fucking ass hole

>> No.16366283

>>16344423
I wish this were not true but it is.

>> No.16366295

>>16366103
>the other is subtle influence -- and if you're the type that gets influenced by that kind of stuff
Everyone can be influenced on the market, it's really down to who has the better information.
In simple outcomes it is easy enough to get consensus but for complicated things like "what is the effect of raising minimum wage on the economy? does it stunts growth?" it's going to be a nightmare to take the disingenuousness and subtle data massaging from the reports.

Economists have been trying to settle that question for decades, so far we have managed to get hundreds of studies supported by 600 economists that says it has no negative effect, and hundred of studies supported by 500 economists that say the complete opposite. I don't see how betting markets are going to make things better in this respect.

>Betting markets have a closing condition (like indicator X in N years from now)
Yes but when are the bets cashed in? What prevent people from selling their bets on derivative markets, so that the betting investment of such and such guy becomes a financial asset on its own? When a company is being bought off by a bigger one, for instance, this can count as a definitive declaration that the market values that company. In the process rival companies might have been absorbed or made to go bankrupt by clever (but not illegal or provably misleading) practices of communication and networking. Are bets really different in that sense?

>it cannot go on indefinitely working on pure speculation
Not indefinitely but see above, there outcome (or its perception) can be seriously influenced, therefore the result itself can be the product of pure speculation, just like with companies. To declare consensus you need an authority to settle the issue, and that authority needs to ensure neutrality while getting sufficient means to satisfactorily investigate complex issues. We've seen how well that has gone with notation agencies.

>while in betting markets, putting money on some outcome shouldn't influence the outcome itself
Again, that's only true for the simplest outcomes, in which cases betting markets are just a generalization of betting on racehorse (a notoriously fraud-prone practice). In the cases of complex economic or scientific outcomes (not to mention political ones) you're going to end up either with massive data massaging or utter global-scale frustration, if not both. Even material commodities are open to speculation, but at least the quantity of, say, copper available in the world in a given day can be reasonably estimated. Not so much for global warming or the effect of property taxes.

I can see it working on a limited set of issues, but I trust people to quickly expand it to a much bigger set of issue and creating yet another ungodly mess in the process. The best it could happen is if it kept being a niche thing for semi-wealthy nerds.

>> No.16366299

>>16366103
>I never saw a sports team win a game because markets were telling they would do so
Tell that to the Italian-american mafia.
But more seriously how does that work for something like an election?

>> No.16366309

>>16344423
That's not controversial, that's I'm-21-year-old-trust-me-dude-101.

>> No.16366324

>>16350568
Because leftcuckery only exists with censorship. The Natural and good and healthy and anxiety less and happy order of things is right wing. Nature is right wing. True love and compassion for your tribe and people is right wing. And you can’t beat nature in the long run.

>> No.16366401

>>16342331
i believe that men are men and women are women

>> No.16366408

>>16343444
Based Country Album reader

>> No.16366420

>>16343191
What do you think the Muslim athletes she was playing were thinking?

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>>16342331
Existence at its most fundamental form may also lack order. Humans didn't evolve to the earth, by some miracle they are barely clinging on. it's not a threaded connection, it's a loose fit that's bound to slip eventually. Your existence, this society and the legacy of humanity is a bastardous, grotesque monument to our own incompleteness and contemp for our ontological abandonment from nowhere. This confession has meant nothing

>> No.16366432

>>16347322
>memetic hazards
I believe making crystals and glowing spoons would fall under that category. And googling a certain acronym, along with that image that circulated telling people they could charge their phones in the microwave.

>> No.16366532

>>16347165
What has occurred possesses a nonzero probability of occurring. Given the necessary creation of the universe perpetually, unique objects will always manifest themselves at some point in a space that allows it. Perhaps with different superficial attributes, but that eternal singular nonetheless.

>> No.16366554

>>16350796
I have been shitposting and hacking Jewish organizations for over two decades. I rarely post. This is the most Jewish post I have ever seen. Posts like this I refer to Cohenposting. Only the highest order of Satanic Jews post at this level. Goodnight.

>> No.16366571

>>16350694
You have read too many Cohenposts
SEE
>>16366554
AND
>>16342413

>> No.16366603

>>16356966
He kicked the kikes out of town?

>> No.16366648

>>16343795
feminism = a reactionary distraction from
women's liberation = the understanding that women couldn't be liberated without men bein gliberated first ie socialism or some version of it

>> No.16366659

>>16358839
>instilled currency not valued by international banks
You mean the Reichsmark aka the money Germany was using since the 20s? Fixed exchange rate doesn't mean the currency is not internationally valued, if that were the case then the US was also dealing in a currency not valued by international banks between 1945 and 1980, and so were most Western nations.

>starting and incorporating many public projects
How does that prevent financial elites from doing business? The Nazis heavily relied on big financial partners.

>>16366603
>kicking out middle-class Jews is impinging on financial elites
>but privatizing national industries isn't
I don't follow. The Nazi supported private industrial monopolies and even lent enslaved workers to big corporations like Krupp, Bosch or Junkers.

>> No.16366668

>>16366659
*big industrial partners
Who were nonetheless private, and they did so at the expense of small businesses.

>> No.16366677

>>16366659
My penis is so hard

>> No.16366726

>>16359106
does this mean that we have literally killed God?

>> No.16366757

>>16364513
what if it's all the same sequence but with the knowledge you acquire through free will during each phase you go into the next one with a different interpretation of this reality.

>> No.16367613

>>16362956
>Industrial Revolution
>Not the agricultural revolution

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/10/how-the-agricultural-revolution-made-us-inequal

>> No.16368184

>>16343795
absolutely based

>> No.16368203

>>16342413
"You will never be a woman"
?

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>>16342692

>> No.16368418

>>16350828
No, agriculture itself doesn't have the capacity to rape and brutalise the humanity of civilization. The internet inherently does have that capacity, and that has been demonstrated enough to make my point definitively true.

>> No.16368544

True centrism is communism.

Reality is empty but emptiness is full.

Anything with a will and thus anything alive is a rational agent.

Spinoza was the first real Jew since after Biblical times.

Contradiction is the foundation of logic and rationality.

Hegel didn't have the words for it but he discovered counterfactual causation before David Lewis and pushed it to its logical conclusion.

>> No.16368593

>>16346889
>>16357761
I'm not new to this but every time I'm thinking about it it's fucking me up
it's the deconstruction of reality and everything you have learned as a human being throughout your lifetime

>> No.16368599

>>16362125
based bro

>> No.16369152

>>16342331
Most people cannot be enlightened both i terms of knowledge and spirituality, most people are meant to be controlled. People are being controlled mentally but not for the greater good, people need to be under control by a leader who actually cares for them.

>> No.16369864

>>16342331
Civilizations exist for the pinnacles they produce; everything else is fated to be washed away as irrelevant by History.

>> No.16370332 [DELETED] 

>>16342331
I believe that children can consent and that pedophilia should be legalized by abolishing the concept of the age of consent

>> No.16370594

>>16342413
I've heard this idea before being called The Perilous Text (since I know no one here actually reads, this is a reference to Arthurian legend) but can't find the original place where I read of this idea. I think the two options would be a text that invariable makes people kill themselves or that somehow overloads their heart causing heart attack.

I think if there were some terrifying, indisputably true soul-crushing fact this could work on a huge number of people. Of course, if anyone has a memetic immunity to it they would be selected for and it would only be a partial solution.

>> No.16370935

>>16342413

that's awesome

me next

>> No.16370949

>>16359159
I'm winning somehow, but they're still insisting on the service tips.

>> No.16371812

>>16368203
This phrase can make trannies off themselves.

>> No.16371827

>>16365966
Very interesting idea, the dubs scare me. I believe the National Socialist idea of the Eternal Jew was similar in its core, but a little less interplanetary.

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Threads that survive the longest are maintained by the loneliest

>> No.16373234

>>16350568
Eh, 4chan has been racist since before /pol/ existed. Even in the days of Boxxy threads, I remember this site being absurdly (in the literal sense of the Absurd) racist.

>> No.16373873

>>16342413
Avada Kedavra!!!