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[Anonymous No.16334880]

Is there anyone like Evola who doesn't think magic is real?

[Anonymous No.16334889]

>thinks magic is fake

[Anonymous No.16334892]

>>16334889
Do a spell right now

[Anonymous No.16334895]

>>16334880
You misunderstand what he means by magic

[Anonymous No.16334896]

>>16334895
What does he mean by magic

[Anonymous No.16334902]

>>16334895
Yeah it’s actually sex magic so basically just telling you to have confidence and just go out and talk to her.

[Anonymous No.16334907]

magik is what westerner think asian religion is about. Pure cringe , which appeals to a lot of women

[Anonymous No.16334910]

>>16334896
read his books and find out

[Anonymous No.16334913]

>>16334880

[Anonymous No.16334917]

>>16334902
nope

[Anonymous No.16334919]

>>16334892

[Anonymous No.16334925]

stop making threads

[Anonymous No.16334926]

>>16334910
No

[Anonymous No.16334931]

>>16334926
Then shut up and stop posting shitty bait, faggot

[Anonymous No.16334932]

>>16334919
Pussy bitch can't do a spell

[Anonymous No.16334949]

>>16334932
https://soundcloud.com/icedoutuzi/diamondsonmydick-casting

[Anonymous No.16334950]

>>16334880
>doesn't think magic is real
Okay Battler, whatever you say

[Anonymous No.16334951]

>>16334917
Cmon that’s basically sex magic when you boil it down

[Anonymous No.16334955]

>>16334950

[Anonymous No.16334957]

>>16334951
Nope it's not and you would know if you'd read a single page of his work

[Anonymous No.16334970]

>>16334957
Okay it’s that combined with a little bit of just be an alpha bro

[Anonymous No.16334991]

>>16334970
No, that's pua. You don't seem to understand what he means by magic.

[Anonymous No.16335007]

>>16334932
Zim-zim-salabim, you're gay now, congrats

[Anonymous No.16335015]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czzrRDNEEZ0

[Anonymous No.16335026]

>>16334880
In a sense, Max Weber articulates the importance of religion or magic/charisma in a sociological sense which ends up looking like a anthropological analysis of the perennial/traditional element.
This was mainly in a work that is called the Sociology of Religion, his protestant work ethic is in a similar vein but more of a material explanation about capitalism etc.

I have read Evola, at least Revolt against the Modern World, Men among the Ruins and Ride the Tiger, and essentially nothing Weber discusses contradicts Evola's reading of the traditional world. It's just Weber is looking at it like "this is why people might believe" and Evola is asserting "this is what was taken from us". Essentially.

[Anonymous No.16335120]

>>16334880
Eliade

[Anonymous No.16335282]

>>16335007
I was gay before you did the spell

[Anonymous No.16335286]

>>16335007
It fucking worked, OP became gay. Guess I believe in magic now.

[Anonymous No.16335571]

>>16334880
No, they require metaphysical ornaments because their thinking is an intellectual larp

[Anonymous No.16336152]

>>16334895
Magic is mostly symbols

[Anonymous No.16336552]

>>16334951
Have you actually read Evola's book on sex?

[Anonymous No.16336594]

>>16336552
Of course he hasn't. Most people who shit on Evola haven't read him, or read one chapter of Revolt before getting filtered.

[Anonymous No.16337074]

Guenon

[Anonymous No.16337081]

>>16334896
Its more like the unpredictable/unbelievable aspects of reality and the inherently contradictory nature of it all

[Anonymous No.16337136]

>>16334880
>Evola but soulless
Fucking bugman angloids, kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.16338064]

>>16337074
Guénon was even more paranoid about magical attacks than Evola. Guénon believed he was sick with arthritis and other ills because sorceres were attacking him aboard using his pictures for voodoo pictures.

Wish I was not joking. Evola recounts this in his article:
http://www.juliusevola.net/excerpts/On_Pre-Birth_Superconsciousness_%26_the_Power_of_Occult_Forces_over_Backward,_Primitive_People_or_Going_Beyond_Rene_Guenon.html

>Guénon added that he himself had been confined to his bed for several months, apparently on account of arthritis, but actually as a consequence of an outside attack; and that he had recovered from his illness once the person responsible had been discovered and neutralized. I told Guénon that a similar attack would be an unlikely cause in my case, not least because an extraordinarily powerful spell would have been necessary to cause such damage: for the spell would have had to determine a whole series of objective events, including the occurrence of the bombing raid, and the time and place in which the bombs were dropped.

>It is interesting to note that when I questioned Guénon concerning his accident (his case of pseudo-arthritis), and asked him whether an individual who has attained a certain spiritual level might not be safe from all attacks of 'magic' and wizardry, Guénon replied by reminding me that, according to tradition, the Prophet Mohammed himself was not invulnerable in this regard. Apparently, the reason for this is that 'subtle', 'psychic' processes operate in a deterministic fashion, not unlike physical processes (a knife stab, for instance, causes damage regardless of the kind of person it hits). (Actually, I have some further reservations on the matter: for I believe that the process of materialization of the individual - what contributes to distance him from the subtle forces of nature - can actually act as a protection against occult attacks of the kind I have just been discussing. Such attacks, therefore, would have little power over modern man, an intellectual type and city-dweller, whereas they would prove effective against more 'backward' and 'primitive' human groups.)

>>16334880
Not any perennialist writers. You are asking for nihilistic materialists who deny the existence of spirit and superconsciousness.

[Anonymous No.16338196]

Is it Logo or Kantbot making all these Evola countersignaling thread lately?
Whichever one it may be: fuck off you physically malformed pseudo-intellectual faggot.

[Anonymous No.16338283]

>>16338196
I wish I didn't know who these clowns are

[Anonymous No.16338801]

>>16334913
the monocle is the key to his magical powers
>>16338196
invoking those cursed names is a magic spell

[Anonymous No.16338992]

>>16334896
Listen to this, it's Text-To-Speech from his books but it's extremely descriptive.
https://youtu.be/trB7-b6UitA

That's basically all it is, a deeply existential Larp which puts (YOU) right next to the forces of creation in an entirely different state of consciousness thereby changing your ontology and yielding an effect. There's no science, it's just the deepest and realest aspects of Placebo and consciousness themselves being put into play in a way that's natural and healthy for humans.

If you had any Occult/Magician friends you'd know how this stuff works and they'd say the same thing.

Everyone right this second needs to stop thinking of magic as powers or metaphysical energies from another plane that certain codes can unlock, because that's fundamentally flawed.

Why do people do Funerals? Why do people do Weddings? Those are forms of ritual, you or the people involved take on new identities and ontological states in those ceremonies.

Evola is critical of Christianity and Atheism because they deny these aspects and leave you with materialistic garbage. The reason modern education destroys peoples capability to develop into anything and leaves them these empty husks with no real inspiration is because it is too focused on information vs information vs information with no tangible existential experience so as to help the person develop into their own thing. An average farmboy hundreds of years ago had more serious interactions with the forces of life and matured into a great laborer who had a very sturdy ontological foundation that helped him realize the place of himself and everything else in the universe and the grandeur of existence. Hence the Same Caste system always appearing in ancient times and everyone having a deeply spiritual connection to their given or selected way of life, some are laborers, some are merchants, some are warriors, some are priests, some are naturally very very natural leaders unlike the interchangable trash we call politicans today. Modern People who are treated like skimpy envelopes to be stuffed with data and then shaken out and given new data to hold are essentially soulless bugmen with no foundation which is why they are useless, miserable and easy to control.

Think about a construction worker 500 years ago as opposed to today and how much electricity takes the magic out of experience and the deep wisdoms and skills of craftsmanship are replaced with immediate ease with power tools. Think about having to butcher your own livestock and put a great sequence of preparations into a meal as opposed to just buying a steak frying it and eating it. Tech isn't my point though.

The one I think you should focus on to understand this most is "knowledge", and how the ancient forms considered Good wisdom and general ontology to be knowledge, not just the dry recessitation of shit on a test. Knowledge in it's truest forms is not democratic and different types are designated to different types of people.

[Anonymous No.16339036]

>>16338992
>>16334896

So anyway All the negative problems of the world are to blame on disenchantment and a lack of "magic" but that's all magic is, it's a spiritual mindset that is completely alien to this age and because we seem to have declared ourselves evolved creatures above it we suffer greatly. We are ruled by formlessless and it tortures us. Pod people by choice because it made more "economic" "scientific" "atheistic" sense. Ignoring that human belief is part of our place as animals and it's perfectly natural and healthy and without it the world would be destitute and everyone would want to kill themselves facing the nightmares they create in it's abscence.

The fullest knowledge of Magic was always in the hands of the priestly and ruling castes for good reason, because if it was somehow lost and stopped flowing atheist nihilism would take over and kill everything.

[Anonymous No.16339050]

>>16338992
You're almost there. It's not placebo.

[Anonymous No.16339092]

>>16339050
I know it's not, it's real consciousness but these atheistic types wouldn't have understood without the notion that (it yields an effect which by it's very nature does not necessitate rational consideration)

[Anonymous No.16339117]

>>16338992
my daily chan shitposting is a magic ritual

[Anonymous No.16339159]

>>16339117
And are the ontological effects yielded not precisely what you'd expect?

[Anonymous No.16339181]

>>16339159
Did you call me a neckbeard?

[Anonymous No.16339188]

>>16339181
Not specifically but this website certainly yields an effect on the people who use it.

[Anonymous No.16339194]

>>16339188
I am actually a chad.

[Anonymous No.16339289]

>>16339194
Exactly

[Anonymous No.16340120]

ethnic magic shops are my favorite