/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16333120]

i want to erase this book from my mind. i am incapable of functioning in my day to day life. what do

[Anonymous No.16333148]

Now read Ted. :)

[Anonymous No.16333149]

Read The Courage to Be. And when you realize how stupid it is you'll appreciate Becker a lot more for being real

[Anonymous No.16333156]

You can never go back. Have fun!

[Anonymous No.16333165]

>>16333120
You opted to eat the forbidden fruit, now you live with the consequences.

[Anonymous No.16333215]

What is it about? Is it the same as this?

[Anonymous No.16333265]

>>16333215
Becker argues that all of human history/civilization is a symbolic and elaborate cope to deal with our own mortality.

[Anonymous No.16333282]

OP, terror management theory makes far less grand claims and has a more empirical basis.

[Anonymous No.16333292]

>>16333265
So what?

[Anonymous No.16333303]

>>16333265
Makes sense, I download book

[Anonymous No.16333325]

>>16333265
Kind of like Ligotti. It is hard not to see it as such. I'll give it a read, thanks!

[Anonymous No.16333326]

>>16333265
I kind of already figured that.

[Anonymous No.16333367]

Been trying to read this for months but I just get so board in the beginning when he's gushing about Rank

[Anonymous No.16333429]

>>16333120
Why? It clarified so many things about why people are such idiots and why the world is so fucked up. I'd like to see a book combining the insights from this with an evolutionary psychology foundation.

[Anonymous No.16333767]

>>16333326
Congratulations for being enlightened by your own intelligence!

[Anonymous No.16333767,1]

>>16333120
I know. I have spent my whole life dealing with this problem. We are not alone, it's the major theme of The Iliad. We must solve this problem or die trying.

[Anonymous No.16335653]

Haha I had the same reaction. It will pass. He is just using extreme psychoanalytic mumbo jumbo to reduce everything to heroism.

Although it is true, death is the thing we repress the most and defines a lot of what we do.

You can read Death by Herber Fingarette. It serves as an antidote since it proposes a more positive outlook to the question of death.

[Anonymous No.16335663]

>>16333265
uh, yeah, of course. was that not obvious?

[Anonymous No.16335675]

>>16335663
It’s how eloquently he describes it that hits you, I’d say. He personalizes, makes you look into your own choices, ideologies, attachments and trace them back to the hopeless endeavor of surviving non-existence.

[Anonymous No.16335691]

>>16333120
>author offers no solution
Th-thanks?

[Anonymous No.16335720]

>>16335675
It's always hard. I've never read the book, but I've been grappling with impermanence and non-existence for a long time. I'd like to think I've made some progress. Actually, it was a song that helped me most:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiMUOuYUy1w&ab_channel=CorbLund-Topic

It implanted the idea that, even if we die, we aren't really forgotten. The fact that we existed can't be undone, even if we're erased from history. And, even if we're forgotten, we become a part of something, even if that something is just "the dead". Every time someone says "the dead", "the people who died", "everyone that ever lived"... they're talking about us, too.

I'm working on divorcing myself from my body. I've found that helped a lot. A lot of people seem so obsessed with what happens to their body after they die, and I think that feeds into their fear of death, or is an expression of their fear. But once you die, you're not in your body anymore. I feel a lot peaceful after realizing that, too. I'm going to donate my body after I die.

[Anonymous No.16335735]

>>16335691
The solution has already been given anon, why not just let people find it on their own.

[Anonymous No.16335742]

>>16335691
>>16335720

[Anonymous No.16335857]

>>16335720
Thinking about physics helps me with the dread. Ultimately, we leave a temporal physical mark just by existing. A mark that’s “eternal” in the time-space continuum (as in, the future and all of time is already happening in this continuum). So there’s that.

[Anonymous No.16335917]

>>16335857
yes, exactly.

[Anonymous No.16336310]

>>16335720
There are two ways to material eternal life.
Firstly, through genetics. That's patently obvious.
The second is through legacy. As long as you are alive in the minds of people you will never die.
I have in front of me medals from my great-great grandfather's service in WW1. Downstairs I have my great-grandfather's medals from his service in WW2.
As long as I or my family keep these icons and tell our descendants about these men they will forever be alive.
Men like Caesar, Thomas Aquinas, Wagner or Hitler will never die, as they will always be remembered in one form or another.

Or you know go to church and live eternally in Christ.

[Anonymous No.16336357]

>>16333120
You realized something most people eventually figure, on their own or not. Now you can start to truly appreciate wisdom and realize you are not what you thought you were before this, but something entirely different. Sounds exciting, Good luck
>>16335720
>A lot of people seem so obsessed with what happens to their body after they die, and I think that feeds into their fear of death, or is an expression of their fear. But once you die, you're not in your body anymore. I feel a lot peaceful after realizing that, too. I'm going to donate my body after I die.
yea
>>16336310
Legacy will die. Someday we will all be gone and forgotten. A loved ones temporary existence as a memorial in your memory is enough.

[Anonymous No.16336435]

>>16333120
Remember that psychoanalysis is semitic nonsense.

[Anonymous No.16337086]

>>16333265
To deal with pain, not mortality. The mad hope that life could be graceful.

[Anonymous No.16337121]

>>16335720
That song's just a shitty version of Highwayman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgCRdAzizxY

[Anonymous No.16337145]

They say if you find spiritual peace you don't have anxiety over death anymore....

[Anonymous No.16337178]

>>16337145
As a Christian, I think accurate but I'd clarify it. It's perhaps more that we can feel hopeful about death. Death is still a bad thing, it's something unnatural that should not be, because we were not created to die. But we can know that we will be resurrected and live again.

[Anonymous No.16337182]

>>16337178
>Death is still a bad thing, it's something unnatural

[Anonymous No.16337193]

>>16337182
Adam was created immortal and only became subject to death after the fall. Death is a consequence of sin and is not the natural state of the world.

[Anonymous No.16337197]

>>16333149
I'm glad I read the second sentence. Tillich is an absolute joke. Barth is the real G.

[Anonymous No.16337231]

>>16335735
I think you meant to post this anon

[Anonymous No.16337233]

>>16333265
Is this what passes for philosophy nowadays? When someone makes a compelling argument that that isn't the case I'll be interested.

[Anonymous No.16337253]

>>16337233
>restate true thing bad
>say untrue thing with impressive rhetoric good

[Anonymous No.16337256]

Escape from evil is far better. But DoD is a good starting point. Read BaDoM as well if you want to understand his thought process. I really enjoyed the whole series, he’s solid.

[Anonymous No.16337364]

>>16337253
It's something I (and most people here, it seems) believe to be true. That doesn't mean it is. If someone can prove that it isn't true, that book is more valuable than one that states the common beliefs of the time it was written. Principia Mathematica was more important than any generic math textbook from the day.