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worth reading? I´m not much of a Sci-fi fag but i´ll read anything if its good and the upcoming movie looks good.

>> No.16328374

>>16328366
>worth reading?
No

>> No.16328416

>>16328366
Might be the best sci-fi book of all time.

>> No.16328484

>>16328416
kek

>> No.16328632

>>16328374
fuck off.
>>16328366
yeah read it.

>> No.16328659

If you also like hippie shit and hate superheroes, then yeah.

>> No.16328700

>>16328366
It’s ok, written kind of clumsy and plot is predictable but the sci fi is kind of cool

>> No.16329003

>>16328366
Yes, it is good

>> No.16329091

>>16328366
it's the one book everyone must read besides the holy Koran

>> No.16329117

I loved the movie about it. I'll probably read it sometime soon

>> No.16329126

>>16328416
That goes to the Hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy nigga.

>> No.16329149

>>16329126
but does hitchhiker's guide even have a galactic jihad by drugged-up religious fanatics?

>> No.16329178
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16329178

I liked it, read the series up to Children of Dune and will probably get the last three books soon
It's pretty long, at least the one I got was nearly 800 pages but it's worth it
Didn't really like the 1984 movie but it had potential

>> No.16329235

>>16329117
the lynch one?

>> No.16329322

To accept Villeneuve as a quality director is to garb yourself in a coat of hot pockets and video games and then writhe around on the ground in a supermarket while screeching and slapping yourself on the sides of your head.

He is cheeto dust. Nothing more. Nothing more than a hack, a useful tool for studios to trot out to say "Hey, we're making art house!" I cannot wrap my head around the adulation he receives, let alone the wide praise this has got. The film trudges from set piece to set piece, leaves us no real questions or anything to think about really.

The same bullet that kills a capeshit fan will also kill the Villeneuve and Paul Thomas Anderson fan. They come from the same root, from the same doritos stained console. They are frauds, and as a warrior of cinema it's my duty to expose the fakes and the inauthentic when I see them. I will fight with crawls and teeth until the last imposter is fallen to the ground I have about as much respect for denis villeneuve as I do for the dogshit on my shoe. It is reddit. It is video game hot pocket. It is capeshit. It is cheeto dust. I'm literally screaming right now and slamming my arms down on my desk just thinking about it.

Imagine sitting next to an Villeneuve fan. The smell as he rubs the cheeto dust into his body in preparation for viewing his "based" movie. The flutter of his fedora as he tips ecstatically as Deakins pans shots in great numbers like one of his video game cutscenes. The sound of him vibrating at the hot pocket resonance every time "based" meme actor is on screen.

It is the most depraved video game infantilized manchild degeneracy. It is saturday morning cartoon. It is non-neurotypicality. It is memes. It is video game. It is tarantino. It is imdb. It is coca-cola puberty. it is axe body spray. it is a white stain on boxer shorts. it is arri alexa hot dog caffeine on disney channel.

>> No.16329357

>>16328366
Meh to me it's an average hero's journey story. The antagonist is a literal mustache-twirling villain. 3/5

>> No.16329375

>>16329357
Wrong, Paul is supposed to be the villian

>> No.16329484

The constant stream of expository internal monologues regarding how oh-so-clever the characters are remind me of a light novel with an OP protag. "As expected of the qwisatz haderach!"

>> No.16329529

>>16329375
galaxy brain take

>> No.16329537

>>16329357
t. fell for the atreides propaganda

>> No.16329633

>>16329484
Post one(1) example of that

>> No.16329771

There's some cool stuff in the series. The first few books can be okay but it's God Emperor that's actually good and puts the previous books in the series into the proper context. People don't really understand Dune until they get to that book.

The books are actually very progressive but they're not obnoxiously so, and I say this as somebody who is extremely conservative. The overarching problem in the Dune universe is that human civilization has become too traditional. They're stuck in their imperial ways and hierarchies so there is no genuine growth or technological evolution anymore. When Paul and later another character gain prescience they see that far off into the future there's a very deadly enemy that's going to come and completely wipe out humanity unless something drastically changes. They recognize that only way to save humanity is brutally oppress them for thousands of years, instilling in them a deep desire to be free. I think it's interesting.

>> No.16330009

>>16329771
>They recognize that only way to save humanity is brutally oppress them for thousands of years, instilling in them a deep desire to be free
literally what xi jingping is doing

>> No.16330219

>>16328366
Honestly the best book I've ever read.

>> No.16330224

>>16330219
read better books

>> No.16330393

>>16330009

Nope. Jingping is extinguishing that desire. Kikebug spotted.

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>>16329322
Will I ever stop laughing every time I see this post?

>> No.16330691

Story was nice but I hate Heberts writing style

>> No.16330727
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>>16329322

>> No.16330767

>>16329357

>average hero's journey story

Sure, it’s also why I think the sequel messiah is so great because it flips that idea that Paul’s a hero on its head

>> No.16330773

>>16330767
those genocided planet's should have accepted out lord and saviour the mahdi

>> No.16330780

>>16328366
No, it's boring.

>> No.16330784
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>>16328416
No. I promise you it really isn't.

>> No.16330829

>>16328366
Only worth reading if you're into the genre. It's a masterclass of worldbuilding but not much else. Story wise, 1 is bland and just a pretext to explore the cool world, 2 kinda retcons it for the better, 3 is a total clusterfuck, 4 brings them together and makes the whole thing kind of ok. That's the core saga and all the rest is utter shit. The characters are almost universally flat as pancakes but blather on for ages pretending to be deep. The setting as I said is really, really good, so if you can lose yourself in that and ignore the shortcomings for 4 volumes, go right ahead.

>> No.16330936

>>16328366
It's worth it for the way Herbert describes the world. Sometimes going full autistic on the details of the environment.

>> No.16330997

>>16330936
for me it's the pseudo-religious rants

>> No.16331014

>>16328366
Litteraly just got my copy today

>> No.16331052

I wanna read DUNC but I heard the sequels vary from ok to shit. What's y'all's verdict?

>> No.16331138

>>16331052
I read messiah and it pretty much confirms that he's the space hitler, and it also wraps up his story nicely.

I don't know if I'll read the rest the libraries don't have them and I don't feel like spending money

>> No.16331235

>>16331052
I heard to avoid the books his son wrote at all costs.

>> No.16331248

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>> No.16331257

>>16331235
why do children always have to defile their parents' legacy

>> No.16331264

>>16329529
No it's the truth, the whole thesis of the story is that charismatic leaders ought to come with a warning label

>> No.16331266
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16331266

Isn't Dune just muslim propaganda?

>> No.16331283

>>16331266
yes and that is a good thing

>> No.16331293

waging a holy jihad against the profligate american empire is the obligation of every decent person

>> No.16331304

>>16331266
>>16331283
How? Just because there's sand and the word jihad? Wtf is the reasoning here

>> No.16331327

>>16331304
fremen are literally space arabs

>> No.16331343

although, dune did come out before the whole terrorism thing, but still

>> No.16331576

>>16331327
I didn't read the book, are they the good guys or bad guys?

>> No.16331634

>>16331576
they wage a galactic jihad that wipes out billions of people. so to answer your question, yes, they are the good guys

>> No.16331666

>>16331634
Inshallah

>> No.16331690

>>16329178
i originally was going to watch the lynch movie a few years back, but i decided to watch a trailer first, and was so put off by it that I decided to download and read the book instead. no regrets.

>> No.16331721

>>16330784
hey i liked that show

>> No.16331741

>>16328366
Absolute shit with a disappointing ending. Read it to say you have and never touch it again.

>> No.16331793

>>16328416
that's not The Time Machine

>> No.16331842

Thinking about checking out ᑐᑌᑎᕮ

>> No.16331883

>>16331052
Avoid his son's fan fiction.
When it comes to the sequels, I've only read up to God Emperor but every one has been worth reading so far.
I wouldn't call any of them shit, just maybe less impact and mysticism.
The stories are still cool and entertaining.
Children of Dune was the most hype so far, for me at least.

>> No.16331898

>>16331576
>are they the good guys or bad guys?
Neither
They were too susceptible to religious conditioning and fanaticism. That's their main sin. The story of Dune can initially be seen as "good vs bad" but upon reflection it's more "here's what happened and what you need to be careful of"

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16331904

>>16331898
get out of here with your "shades of grey" shit. pick a side or fuck off

>> No.16331905

>>16328366
It's quite a feat of worldbuildng on paper, but the characters are dry and the plot crawls. You don't "get it" until the fifth book, and frankly it's just not worth the effort.

>> No.16331931

>>16328416
>>16329126
Both wrong. besides comparing Dune to hitchhikers guide is like comparing apples to oranges.
>>16329149
I have not read dune but just because a book has an awesome sounding premise does not mean it is good. the authors tone is what carries a book IMO.

>> No.16331984

>>16331904
The story isn't that grey, fortunately. I hate that shit too. Even if Frank Herbert wanted to point out that you should be wary of leaders it's still clear the Atreides are good guys, even if the Fremen were manipulated hard.

>> No.16332249

>AI uprising made everyone distrustful of technology so computers are illegal and to compensate a class of people use a space drug to sustain their ultra autism
I love Dune

>> No.16332673
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>>16331931
How can you say that it isn’t the best sci-fi book of all time if you haven’t even read it? What would you chose?

>> No.16332691

>>16332673
Welcome to /lit/