Imagine if your bible growing up was Homeric warrior poetry. Imagine if it was the Bible of your whole society as well. Try and imagine how different your psychology would be.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 7 14:19:11 2020 No.16307295 [Reply] [Original]

Imagine if your bible growing up was Homeric warrior poetry. Imagine if it was the Bible of your whole society as well. Try and imagine how different your psychology would be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 14:28:55 2020 No.16307378 you have heroic war stories in the bible too, it's your fault you never open that bible

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:13:45 2020 No.16307579 >>16307378 Would you really call that the focus of bible?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:14:28 2020 No.16307584 >>16307295 Get your ass back over here boy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:17:39 2020 No.16307606 >>16307295 I grew up on greek myths and stories cause my parents were not retards to raise me on cancerous jewish stories

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:32:40 2020 No.16307675 >>16307579 Exodus. Samuel. Kings. Pretty sure mate. Stop claiming your beta volcel fanfic is canon and tacking it on the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:46:30 2020 No.16307763 File: 58 KB, 976x850, BB1A6504-0D0A-4CAF-BB87-34201F9ED0F4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Stop claiming your beta volcel fanfic is canon and tacking it on the end. What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:46:53 2020 No.16307764 >>16307675 ngmi

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:48:01 2020 No.16307767 >>16307675 >Semetic victim mythology >Heroic

Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:50:24 2020 No.16307776

>>16307675
Literally just finished reading kings 1 and 2 this morning. To say their descriptions of battle are anything like those in homer is ridiculous. The bible focuses only on the macro narrative of wars, not the individuals and their beat by beat actions.
One has several page long narrations of the minutia of battle and the actors, and one just says 'then jehozamefiadoodoo went to Syria and slew their king'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:51:17 2020 No.16307782 >>16307295 variations of heroes/knights/warriors are already embedded in culture Cowboys, Wild West, Medieval Knights ect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:51:57 2020 No.16307786 >>16307606 http://www.reddit.com Here ya go

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:55:48 2020 No.16307816 >>16307675 >>16307378 Stop seething, I’m not even really dissing the Bible. I’m just trying to comprehend how the Hellenes saw the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:57:22 2020 No.16307823 >>16307786 Yeah bro reddit is totally cool with saying Christianity is judaic mind poison bro

Anonymous Mon Sep 7 15:59:17 2020 No.16307837

>>16307816
Spengler tackles this. The ultimate expression of hellenistic culture is the body. The heroes and the gods are bodies in the world and express the whole.of being through themselves. Bible can't compete as it is borne from a fundamentally hobbled culture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 16:02:20 2020 No.16307857 >>16307776 And unlike the Iliad, it's all made up (fiction).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 16:53:45 2020 No.16308134 >>16307786 >reddit is antisemitic

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 16:55:47 2020 No.16308145 >>16307837 interesting point, in line 7 homer gives his first real description of men and how they contrast Ἀτρεΐδης τε ἄναξ ἀνδρῶν καὶ δῖος Ἀχιλλεύς also in the first line men are described in a subtle poetic way lost in translation

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:19:53 2020 No.16308275 >>16307782 yes as a joke and a fantasy for children

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:22:38 2020 No.16308285 There's a lot of amazing things to gain from Homer, but it's just not as varied and addressing of the nuances of society as the Bible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:25:55 2020 No.16308309 >>16308285 The bible has better bestiality and incest. And unlike the Iliad it is fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:28:28 2020 No.16308330 >>16308309 >The bible has better bestiality and incest. Have you read Greek myth lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:28:49 2020 No.16308333 >>16307295 My kids (which I will never have lmao) will be raised on Indo-European folk tales, epic poetry, and the Greek philosophers in their teens. There is no other way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:34:51 2020 No.16308374 >>16308333 If you actually read Greek philosophy (which you never did lmao) you'd know it's best to start philosophy later in life

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:36:08 2020 No.16308383 >>16308374 I meant late teens, like 17 and 18. I know it’s best to start late, but I have to expose them to it early

Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:42:00 2020 No.16308426

>>16308383
That's how you get retarded kids thinking they're geniuses because they've skimmed some book they barely understood. Literally the snotty rich kid from TBK being like "Look at me I'm so intelligent religion is the opiate of the people!" while having barely read any of the books he's heard of. No one without a basic understanding of mathematics and analytical reasoning should even attempt to read philosophy, that's literally the entire point of The Republic. Your kids until their mid teens should be exercising and playing almost exclusively, and then when they're in their mid teens they should be powering through mathematics/non-philosophical literature, and then moving onto general sciences of the natural world, and then only in their early-to-mid 20s begin to seriously read philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:45:57 2020 No.16308451 >>16307295 Didnt the romans hate being taught this stuff in the 100's? didnt they litterally prefer eastern mystisim and Christianity to this stuff because it was so phoned in?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:47:33 2020 No.16308465 >>16308451 >didnt they litterally prefer eastern mystisim and Christianity to this stuff because it was so phoned in? Which Jewish book lied to you anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:52:28 2020 No.16308509 try to imagine syncing your steps and movements to the hexameter of homer and reciting in your mind as you work and exercise

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 17:59:43 2020 No.16308555 >>16308465 idk all of the 100's through 300s. mystery cults, lack of interest in traditional roman religion, poor teaching practices that made people hate reading the classics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 18:09:29 2020 No.16308615 >>16308330 Yes. I said better not more.

Anonymous Mon Sep 7 20:01:31 2020 No.16309327

>>16308555
The Roman Religion was in no way, shape, or form exclusive. The mystery cults such as Mithraism were congruous/syncretic with the roman state religion, as was every other regional deity+belief encountered as the frontiers spread outward. The only reason the state and population clashed with Christianity is because it stated that their God was the one and only true God, and worship of all others needed to stop.
Still waiting on a source for why you believe Romans had no interest in Greek mythos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 7 20:26:20 2020 No.16309458 >>16307295 Violent, petty, standoffish and deeply sexist. We all love Homeric epics but using it as a bible on which to base a society would be fucked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 00:30:01 2020 No.16310738 >>16309458 Literally kicked off western civilization. Such a tiny population conquered the known world. Kys tranny.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 00:44:53 2020 No.16310804 >>16310738 How many older men courted and seduced you when you were 14?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:27:15 2020 No.16312021 >>16309458 Post tits

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:33:10 2020 No.16312039 >>16307295 Homeric poetry is satire

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:39:30 2020 No.16312053 >>16307857 There was a time when you were labeled crazy for thinking the Trojan war was a historical event.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:44:13 2020 No.16312066 >>16307295 Bend over, baby. Let me show you how us Greeks saw the world...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:47:22 2020 No.16312075 Do you honestly believe the average Greek gave a fuck about the Iliad back in the day? Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:50:40 2020 No.16312086 >>16312075 It was pretty much the Simpsons of Greece.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:52:10 2020 No.16312092 >>16312086 explain why every modern boy acts like bart

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:54:26 2020 No.16312097 >>16308275 Thank Americans for that and their shitty studios like Disney and Hollywood

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 05:59:40 2020 No.16312119 >>16312092 Because Bart dragged the murderer of his lover three times around the walls of Troy behind a chariot. Duh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 06:04:03 2020 No.16312131 >>16310804 None because I was smart enough to not let them lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 06:54:00 2020 No.16312301 >>16307295 >Bravery is good but ultimately mercy is what will bring you peace Both have the same message

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 08:01:03 2020 No.16312517 judging by how Greek history turned out, not all that different? Nature>Nurture

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 08:19:52 2020 No.16312566 >>16307295 Exodus 15:3

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 10:07:08 2020 No.16313082 >>16308275 >as a joke Not true at all. Stories about knights, the Iliad, Ovid and etc were always popular with adults. Western movies and literature have been popular for over 100 years now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 10:15:51 2020 No.16313130 >>16312075 You're a retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 11:10:18 2020 No.16313426 File: 3 KB, 400x550, The_Chosen_Dots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16307675

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 12:17:42 2020 No.16313751 >>16307295 i would be a faggot pederast

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 12:35:13 2020 No.16313876 >>16309458 >Violent, petty, standoffish and deeply sexist. Ok, and what about Homer?

Anonymous Tue Sep 8 12:44:27 2020 No.16313936

>>16309327
>sources
gibbons mostly. but i did not claim the romans didnt have interest in greek mythos, they obviously did. i was specificlynrefering to the later empire. also the popularity of mythos=\= true religiosity. The enlightenment europeans had a big interesting in greek mythos too, but virtually none of them were religious to the greco-roman gods. i am refering to the lack of the later, the religion, which is seen by the decrease in attendence and commitment to older theological conventions that were very prominent in the republic/early empire.

and yes, there was quite a level of capatablism in greco-roman religion, but that doesnt disiade from the point that eastern mystery religions/cults become much more the focus in private life. even the historians like Dio bemoan the Romans decadent endulgence in eastern mysteries at the expense of traditional roman religiosity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 12:57:23 2020 No.16314039 >>16313130 You're a clueless /pol/tard

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 13:36:00 2020 No.16314292 >>16314039 It was the strongest and most notable work describing of the culture surrounding him. Why would he not care?

Anonymous Tue Sep 8 13:46:10 2020 No.16314355

>>16307295
I was born and raised in catholic country, went to church regularly, had religious education at school but my family and I have never read bible, all I know about religion is what I have heard from other people, what I have seen on tv and what priest told us during mass. In other words I (and most other people I know) am completely ignorant about it and don't care about it. You can replace bible with any other (semi) religous text and the outcome will be the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 13:48:28 2020 No.16314368 >>16307295 Look at how small their peepees are lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 13:48:50 2020 No.16314371 >>16307295 Imagine growing up a classic greek and never getting to read Chapman. Sad!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 16:02:23 2020 No.16315124 >>16307786 i clicka da link but nottin happenin D:::: halp meh plez

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 16:33:47 2020 No.16315323 I would say ww2 has already replaced christianity in the myth department, and like christianity it is invoked mainly by hypocrites and manipulators. So I would say not much different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 18:49:40 2020 No.16316351 >>16307378 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 19:08:25 2020 No.16316461 >>16309458 >Violent, petty, standoffish and deeply sexist Are you describing the Bible?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 8 19:12:57 2020 No.16316488 >>16310738 You must be thinking of the Romans, the Greek didn't conquer that much except for Alexander but that lasted less than 20 years. In fact Greece has a much longer history of being conquered than of conquering.

Anonymous Tue Sep 8 22:35:02 2020 No.16317768

>>16309458
>Wow. So sexist. Problematic. Yikes. Have sex Incel. Don't you know that studying the classics is racist? I'm so triggered right now. Somebody give me a link to r/eyebleach. I can't believe this board is so homophobic racist and sexist. You probably don't even believe in the Holocaust. But Israel is a fascist state, and the Bible is a fascist book. As a matter of fact, books are fascist. Logic, reasoning, sentence structure and grammar are also ableist ideologies created by the patriarchy. Systemic racism causes white men to believe that the world has to make sense. Feminism will turn the the world into an orgy that is ruled by white women. (And that's a good thing).

Why in the hell do "people" like this come to 4chan?

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