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Australian here. What are the best books on american history?

>> No.16287873

>>16287858
>>>/his/

>> No.16287888

I quite like These Truths by Jill Lepore. Not the usual white-centric take on the subject, has lots of fascinating US trivia

>> No.16287930
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>>16287858
Explicitly avoid anything that purports to be "non-white" centric or any other idpol swill. It's outright fabricated or completely overblows the importance of random people who had absolutely 0 impact on history but happened to be in the background of major events. Such as "Hidden Figures" which completely overblows the rote addition she did to give blacks a claim on being a part of NASA's important missions. She was not a mathematician, but did remedial calculations the engineers were simply too lazy to do. These books and others of the same nature do not have any interest in teaching history. Only to push an agenda.

>> No.16287931

>>16287858
Bradford's Of Plymouth Plantation
MacGregor Burns's The American Experiment volumes
W. E. B. DuBois' Suppression of the African Slave Trade and The Souls of Black Folk
Caton, Macpherson, Foote (any volumes) on the American Civil War
*these are the best I've read..
Personally looking for good books on the indigenous culture, recs appreciated

>> No.16287941

>>16287930
Explicitly avoid this dumbass post

>> No.16287945

>>16287941
Prove anything I said wrong

>> No.16287955

>>16287945
If you think black people, or natives, or hispanics, or chinese had no influence in American history, then you don't understand American history

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>Not the usual white-centric take on the subject

>> No.16287962

>>16287858
>250 years of liberals pretending they totally aren’t liberals this time
Why is that fascinating to you? America is most interesting as the centre of a global history over the last century or so, rather than in itself, though I’d argue that this is true of basically everywhere throughout history.
>>16287930
Redpilled but not based because soijaks are always cringe
>>16287941
Go back, nothing he said was wrong.

>> No.16287965

The Insular Cases and The Emergence of American Empire was a book I liked that described a topic most people completely overlook, and that is the justification used to expand America beyond the continental west to include Hawaii and Puerto Rico as territories of the U.S. and what drove these decisions (Sugar import taxes mostly).

>> No.16287966

>>16287960
triggered

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>>16287858
as i sat under the billabong tree & a kookaboora a rushin' along the bollywog, a yimmio on the yippie vegemite foster's.

GET
OFF
MY
BOAT

buy my zine

>> No.16287970

>>16287945
>>16287955
Let's calm down and give recs; let /pol/ be the finale /pol/

>> No.16287982

>>16287955
There are influential people in history that happened to be minorities. And there is what I described. Anything that rewrites history from "a new perspective" is revisionist agenda-pushing garbage

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>>16287858
you should probably just Leave Society, bruh

>> No.16287996

>>16287955
If you think that torturing the narrative to put often minor groups constantly at the centre is good historical practice then you don’t approach history in a truthful way. What he referenced was a specific case where an extreme technological leap was unnecessarily made about idpol by tritely celebrating an unimportant part. It’s important to understand the history of slavery, native defeat, Asian migrant workers, development of the African American identity and civil rights movements, but making those the focus of your history is extremely reductive. They are parts under the whole wider story, not the most important part at all times. Celebrating the once marginalised because you feel bad at the expense of a truthful and more complete history is retarded.

>> No.16288007

>>16287931
This and Tocqueville's DA (along with Schlesinger Jr.'s The Age of Jackson).
Caro's Power Broker and LBJ

>> No.16288029

>>16287996
>but making those the focus of your history is extremely reductive
Reductive for whom exactly? White people?

>> No.16288050

>>16288029
Reductive for anyone who earnestly wants to learn history. If a person contributed something worthwhile they will be remembered by history generally. But footnotes such as Katherine Johnson did some calculations for the NASA engineers who designed the rockets should remain footnotes and not overshadow the actual people who made leaps in history.

>> No.16288188

>>16287858
Just read Crisis of a House Divided by Harry Jaffa. One of the best books I've read in a white.

>> No.16288192

>>16287858
Start w Gordon Wood. He's best scholar on the Revolution and founding fathers

>> No.16288209

you want
A History of the United States by either Cecil Chesterton or Charles Beard
if you want more specific things
Revolution: JG Palfrey, Jared Sparks
Jacksonian Era: Bowers
Civil War: Rhodes
Reconstruction: Bowers